Sir Andrew Davis tells the story of 'The Dream of Gerontius'
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2017
- Sir Andrew Davis is thrilled to be bringing this piece, which left a lasting impression on him at age 14, to Melbourne.
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I just listened to this piece for the first time. I was struck by the choir of angels calling themselves "the Elder Race", and then by the scene where the Angel is lowering Gerontius into the lake of Purgatory, saying that it will be but a short night and she will wake him "on the morrow." To me both images were strongly reminiscent of Tolkien. I also found something orc-like in the chaotic shouts of the demons.
I then read around and found that JRR Tolkien was profoundly affected in his Catholic faith by the Cardinal Newman, who of course is the author of the libretto. Something about the atmosphere of Newman's view of the afterlife, the threshold, the judgment seat of God and the Lake of Purgatory does seem very like the Halls of Mandos etc in Silmarillion.
St. John Newman, pray for us! What a wonder was your life. When I die, please pray for me that I might meet and speak to you? Pray to. Our Dear Mother for me? Oh pray that the Lord never leave me! Amen.
I'm here because I paused the movie "The Strays" to find out more information on this story.
What a stupid, stupid explanation. Does he not know who John Henry Newman was? Not a Buddhist. This piece is profoundly Catholic and at the end finds Gerontius in Purgatory. You cannot understand it without reference to Catholic doctrine.
The Strays brought me here 😅
We can know ...
I wouldn't call myself "Sir" even if I was one. Just sayin'.
You never hear "Hello, I'm Sir Simon Rattle" !
How extraordinary you should pick up on this! I'm all for Knighthoods/Damehoods etc but when he introduced himself it REALLY grated on me! Put me in mind of the actor Ben Kingsley who insists on his title being used at all times and the incomparable Dame Maggie Smith calling him 'Sir King Bensley!'
Absolutely right. Very gauche.
The most important line was missed in this, “most sure in all his ways”.
Great conductor
Always a conundrum: is it Gerontius as in Gerald or Gerontius as in Gertrude. SIR !! Andrew Davis says both. I´ll stick to Gerald for now. 🙃
He's completely missed the point of the oratorio. How sad he interprets it in a secular humanist light far removed from the authorial intention. It's a thoroughly Christian, specifically Roman Catholic, libretto set to music, and expresses nothing more than the Catholic soul's hope of redemption through the merits and mediatory effect of Purgatory, added to that of Christ and Mary. Despite the wonderful moments one finds
in Elgar's setting, the fact that he uses Cardinal Newman's poem that expresses the hope in a false doctrine is unfortunate to say the least.
Good job no one gives a shit about your point of view
I quite agree. Not a mention of John Henry Newman and the magnificent catholic poem. So catholic, in fact, that there were long anglican discussions before it was permitted performed at the Three Choirs Festival all those years ago!
@@oliverpatrick256 and no one cares about yours either, yet you post it anyways
Exactly!
@@andrewwilder3545 For the first thirty years it was sung in Anglican cathedrals with an expurgated text that removed the ‘worst’ Roman Catholic language.
Iesu, Maria, I am near to death...listening to such false interpretation!
Brothervthe world does not see or hear as we do. Rather give thanks that you have ears to hear and eyes to read such magnificence. I pray that all might hear and understand this amazing oratorio.
🤦 O my God, what a politically "correct" interpretion! But, alas, how deeply "incorrect" from objective point of view. We know, that both Newman and Elgar were Catholics, and the final point is judgment of thé soul and her benevolent "exile" in Purgatory. How dare he (Sir - as he emphasizes - Andrew Davies) so distort the meaning of this masterpiece!?!
I am a Roman Catholic as well! Dear brother, you know, charity is a powerful thing. Not the giving away of things and money-things are a burden and money is worry. I mean the charitable impulses of the heart. Oh how often did St. John Newman encounter those who were suspicious, angry, misunderstanding of his motives!
Brother, the world does not see and hear as we do. But give thanks for this man's devotion to his art! What a gift! I can play the harmonica and the recorder a little bit. To think of this man's Titanic achievements for his art..and he LOVES this gorgeous piece of music! Oh how devoutly it was written! How lovingly composed! Brother would you rather not give thanks and pray for this musician? And thank the Lord that your ears hear it?
And yet, Elgar was not a believer.