I'm waiting for Sean Bean to be casted in a fantasy movie where he has a resurrection spell on him and he's killed over and over again and just keeps coming back.
I mean...when you think about it, they missed a HUGE opportunity not casting Bean as Doctor Strange...that scene where he bargains with Dormammu would have been 10 times better...mmm, so many Bean deaths that could have been. LOL
FWCI Etc and @donkfail1, there's a movie where Sean Bean plays twins so he can die and survive the movie. Otherwise, why else would they get Sean Bean to play twins?
I am a big LOTR fan, but I guess I’m one of the few who can take a step back and see how the movies could be perceived by those who haven’t read the books or those like me who saw the films and delved in to the lore like I did. As Bilbo says in the Fellowship of the Ring: It was just a bit of fun!
yeah, this and the fandom of star wars can be really intense... i don't get it - absolutely agree, it's just a bit of fun! (i also very much love star wars and star trek, harry potter, but c'mon - there is A LOT to laugh about in all of those! for those who enjoy laughing: watch charlie hopkinsons "gandalf reacts" or "obi-wan reacts", it's amazing!!)
I'm a massive LOTR fan, and I love spoofs of the material. My main theory on why Ryan George didn't go harder on this film is because he used up most of his time budget just explaining the plot. 😁 I recommend How It Should Have Ended's (HISHE) take on the franchise. It's also a good laugh.
I loved your reaction to the series, and I'm excited for the next two LotR pitch meeting reacts! Fellowship is my personal favourite by quite a bit. It built the world the most in my opinion, it's got a good mix of cozy vibes, adventure, and action, Gandalf the Gray is my favourite character (he's not quite the same as Gandalf the White), and it's the most contained with everything happening surrounding one single group. It feels like a Dungeons and Dragons adventure, and I love that. And as a lifelong fan of LotR, I love poking fun at it! Some people just get defensive, and they tend to be loudest. You're not gonna hear as much from the people who don't feel like they gotta complain. The last thing I would ever want is someone to be driven away from this incredible trilogy because of the toxic fans. Though, sometimes mistaken for those toxic individuals, are just passionate fans who love to explain stuff and answer questions people have about our favourite series. As one of those passionate fans, I want to briefly explain just one thing brought up in this video. Believe me there's a lot more I could talk about but I'm holding myself back: In the scene with Elrond and Isildur in Mt Doom, there's both a meta reason and a few lore reasons why Elrond didn't stop him. Meta reason is that it just didn't happen that way in the books. Simple as. And a couple lore reasons are (1), that it would probably have been politically _apocalyptic_ if a leader of the Elves shoved the king of the Humans into a volcano, and (2) Elrond would have been overtaken by the ring if he attempted to bring about its destruction, and he would have ended up claiming it for himself. Within Mt Doom, it is essentially impossible to willingly destroy the ring. The wise Elrond at the very least probably knew it would be a bad idea for someone as powerful as he is to get too close to it, lest he end up as another Dark Lord.
In the books was it established that Elrond and Isildur actually went to the crack of doom? I'm not sure, but I thought Isildur decided to claim the ring right after the battle. Makes sense for the movie I guess because it's a more epic location.
The Harvard Lampoon did a book-length parody in 1969, Bored of the Rings. The Boromir character is referred to throughout as "the man with the pointed shoes". It is prophesied: Five-eleven's your height, one-ninety your weight You cash in your chips around page eighty-eight
been a LOTR fan for over 20 years (books and movies), Tolkien is my fav author. I love watching reactions to the movies from people who have never read the books, yours in particular. It gives me a fresh perspective, and yeah, brightens my day :)
Always cool to see other perspectives to LOTR. Fellowship is my personal favorite of all three because of the peaceful beginning and the Moria sequence. Always gives me immense joy and nostalgia, and I enjoy the slower pace.
There were a few reasons they couldn't take the Eagles to Mordor. Firstly, the Eagles don't take orders and are reluctant to carry anyone. Gandalf sometimes gets a pass because he saved their king once Second, the Eye of Sauron could see them flying through an empty sky from miles off and turn the full force of his army to stopping them and retrieving the ring Third, the Eagles were agents of the will of Manwe and therefore count as divine intervention, which is considered a last resort from the Gods/Angels ruling Middle Earth
Well Pippin and Merry actually were responsible for a lot including getting Frodo out of the Shire, Getting Frodo stabbed by the Nazgul and expedited to Rivendell, Getting Gandalf killed because of the noise Pippin made and then allowing Frodo to escape from the Uruk invasion while also making the enemy think they had the halflings with the one ring when they took them. The enemy then though the Frodo and the ring were somewhere en route to Rohan which allowed Frodo and Sam a path with less resistance through the marshes.
All about taking the piss out of things I love. Love LOTR, but there is some ish in the movies that's a bit... ehhhhh. Same with Star Wars, Harry Potter, Star Trek, Krull, Dune, The Dark Crystal, Stargate, Legend, Babylon 5, The Expanse, Blade Runner, etc... There are gonna be holes in plots, always gonna be something to point at and piss other off about. We laugh because we love. This could be said about a lot of things in life, but I ain't about to go there. Love that I found your channel. Mahalo & Aloha.
Been a huge LOTR fan since I saw the films at the cinema. Love your sense of humor. If you can't make fun of what you love then others will and it will hurt too much. Also fav Sean Bean death has to be his worst one to date which is in the film 'Black death' won't spoil it for any one but its a brutal and bloody end to a great character.
Samwise is the true hero. He carried the ring after Frodo was attacked by Shelob and then he carried Frodo to Mount Doom/Orodruin/Amon Amarth....whatever you call that blasted place.
1. While the eye would have probably spotted the eagles approaching Mount Doom, the only aerial countermeasure Sauron had were the Nazgul anyway, whose flying mounts the eagles seemed to be fighting off very well, actually). Pair that with Gandalf riding on one using his blinding light spell to fend them off (like he did to save Faramir's troup), and they should actually be relatively successful against them. 2. The flying creatures the Nazgul are not dragon's, but Fellbeasts, flying reptilian monsters that were never described as dragons in the books. 3. The problem with Operation 'Fly-The-Ring-To-Mount-Doom' is the *eagles themselves.* In Tolkien's universe, the eagles are far more than just really giant birds. They are pretty much demigods, part of the Maiar, up there with other beings like Gandalf and Saruman. Therefore they would be highly susceptible to The One Ring's allure and corruption That is why Gandalf strictly refused to take the Ring from Frodo, unless with Sauron himself, the Ring always ends up wielding the wearer's power, not the other way around. Therefore putting the One Ring anywhere near the eagles (who once took down a dragon big enough to collapse three volcanoes when it fell to the ground), would a terrible idea. Notice how Gandalf only brings in the Eagles to pick up Frodo and Sam at Mount Doom AFTER witnessing the destruction of Sauron and getting 100% confirmation that the One Ring is no more.
The eagles: in this universe, there's like a Zues-type god in "heaven" which is like a utopian Iceland type island where nothing bad can happen. He creates all sorts of beings, and at some point they're allowed to leave heaven and go to where all our characters live. The leader eagle is sort of equivalent to Sauron or Gandalf in what class of being he is. The eagles don't like to meddle in the things of the lesser beings so they only help Gandalf really, and Gandalf has spent his earthly life speaking to them, developing a relationship. They help Frodo/Sam out of pity rather than help them do what they wanted to do. As a plot device, all it does is allow there to be a "happy ending" instead of Sam/Frodo die valiantly after completing this mission. Frodo is invited to go to heaven, Sam starts a family.
I was told that the Eagles were only allowed to be summoned every so often, though not all the time. The Nostalgia Critic did a top a "11 list of the dumbest Lord of the rings moments" a few years back and it's actually funny, reccomend it.
My mum read me The Hobbit when I was five, I read LoTR myself for the first time, one chapter each day, in my early teens, I spent a combined 4 weeks in a tent queueing for decent LoTR premiere tickets... I think I can call myself a fan :P And I consider the film trilogy to be the best ever made, hands down. Absolutely no problem chuckling along to this. :) Oh, and I was probably the first person in the world to buy tickets for the first Hobbit movie, since my home town cinema made a boo-boo and started selling tickets a week too early, and I was first in line for that x'D But we don't talk too much about those movies. Decent popcorn movie but _far_ from the masterpiece this trilogy is. Regarding the "plot hole" with the Giant Eagles: It would have been like flying from Canada to the front lawn of the White House in an Apache helicopter, to pay the President a surprise visit. Yeah, no, gonna get shot down pretty quickly.
There's an excellent short audio clip [edit: not real it turns out] of Tolkien answering the questions about the eagles, where he very politely says "I'll tell you what I tell all of the fans who ask me this question: shut up." 😂
He was already on the defensive in 1958 (Letter 210): "The Eagles are a dangerous 'machine'' " (i.e. deus ex machina). In-universe the Eagles are sentient but they are animals, they don't have souls. They are loyal to Gandalf personally but they are not part of the bigger drama with the Ring.
@@Zacheize oh wow, thank you for letting me know... I hadn't heard enough recordings of him to know the difference I guess. I will stop spreading the rumor lol. I try to be on the lookout for fake stuff (especially sensational folk etymologies that everyone repeats) but you can't catch them all I guess!
There are a few reasons why the eagles couldn’t fly the ring to Mordor. First off, they are more than just bigger versions of the birds in our world. They are servants of one of the gods (to keep things simple, calm down Tolkien needs) and have elf like wisdom and intelligence. They are sentient creatures, and thus, also corruptible by the ring’s power. They could have been tempted as they got closer to Mordor. Also being sentient, they have their own free will and try to avoid the threat of death as much as any person would. As Tolkien said, “they are not taxis”. The only reason Gandalf was able to get a ride was because they owed him a favor for saving one of them previously. Lastly, they are very vulnerable creatures. No matter how much surprise they could take Sauron by, there was most likely enough firepower in Mordor (including the fell beasts) to take down the eagles as they approached mount doom. Remember that when Sam and Frodo crossed Mordor is had been emptied of its troops for two recent battles. The eagles would have shown up to a full house guarding Mordor (if they had the willpower to even get the ring that far).
Huge LotR fan, absolutely love these! I like seeing other people's opinions & thoughts of it. Also, this isn't serious, so I have no issue with it. It's purely for comedy & entertainment.
Mae govannen mellonin a meneg suialid. Lotr and everything Middle Earth, is the greatest piece of fiction to have ever been. I have seen all the movies more times than I can remember and I've read everything Tolkien ever wrote about Middle Earth lore. I also love all the memes and jokes and laughing about it. One shouldnt have to read multiple "unrelated" books just to understand why something is a certain way in a specific story.
The "Sauron reaches out with his hand, for no apparent reason" thing annoyed me, like, in the book his hands were his weapons, he didn't have a mace, he just (in laymen's terms) exploded people with his magic infused karate- so "Lets give him a spiky mace to make him more menacing" was an unrequired addition that, like many of them, were all about the spectacle and added issues as a result. Personally I would have the scene show him effortlessly drag Elendil around a bit as he whacks rando's with his mace (one at a time, not throwing hordes up into the air with each swing), showcasing he really is able to outmatch even the best warriors, toying with the king as he killed the kings guard and then disposing of the king himself (emphasises his evil nature while intimidating the army he was fighting), then imply he was intending to do the same to Isildor, which means cutting the ring off as he reaches down then easily makes sense. Why didn't Elrond kill Isildor in mount doom? Well, had he, the elves and men would have fallen out, don't forget they both had these massive armies sat outside and assassinating the king of one group would have massive implications. Personally I think they should have shown Isildor put the ring on as he dipped to quickly explain away any of the questions. Eagles: You're right, Sauron had an immortal air force, but more than that, his land was full of all kinds of bad guys, they would of been seen entering and where ever they landed would of been swarmed by every ounce of beastie the eye could summon- being that mount doom didn't have an open top (another "for the spectacle thing" added by the movie) meant they couldn't even do a George Lucas inspired xwing lucky shot into the exhaust style bombing run with the ring. Weather top/ Amun suin: The only really poorly thought out scene in the fellowship imo, it feels like a LOT was cut as the engagement starts to skip ahead to frodo putting the ring on so they could spend the time building the suspense and terror of their approach, and it suffers massive plot armour looking flaws as a result. The films aren't perfect, but they are still hands down the best adaptation of a book I've ever seen and will forever be the gold standard for how to make a fantasy movie, and the world within it feel "Real".
Also in the books I don't think it was established that Elrond and Isildur actually went to the crack of doom, I want to say Isildur had already decided to keep the ring before it got that far. So they probably would have had that argument down on the battlefield or something where shoving Isildur into the volcano wouldn't have been an option. I mean, they were on the mountain, but I think the movie embellished a bit with them literally standing over the lava.
I too exist lol as much as I love the movies they AREN'T perfect and it can be fun to pick on it a bit lol that being said, its still pretty much top tier. I gotta say though, since just about every single scene is extended and then deleted scenes are sprinkled throughout, it wouldve been waaaay more efficient to just watch the extended versions because now you set yourself up to basically watch both versions anyway lol
Hey, is the "tread lightly" in your title a reference to _Equilibrium_ (which has Sean Bean in it)? (Although that's "Tread softly", so maybe not). If not, then please do check out that movie (even if you don't react to it - but it'd be great if you did!).
Oh fellowship was your least favorite? I think thats pretty unique, atleast in my circle of friends. Its usually between fellowship and two towers for favorite. Also dont worry about people being dumb. Some of us love fantasy a lot and its hard to understand someone who doesnt, but were all different!
The eagles don't take orders from anyone except Manwë-the king of the Valar (the "gods" of this universe who don't want to interfere much in the affairs of the free peoples of Middle Earth). That's why they only show up as Deus ex Machina, at the last minute, or when all hope seems to be lost. The Valar live in Valinor, the Undying Lands, located outside the world. It can be reached on an elven boat sailing the "straight path." That's where Bilbo, Frodo, and Gandalf go after everything's done. Elves go there too when they grow weary of Middle Earth-eventually, they all depart, leaving Middle Earth to Men, Dwarves, and Hobbits.
I’d love to see you react to Tom Cardy’s song ‘The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the it's my book they will walk if I tell them to’. There’s also the meme video ‘taking the hobbits to isengard’
yeah, the lotr-fandom and the fandom of star wars can be really intense... i don't get it, as another commenter quoted bilbo himself: "it's just a bit of fun!" i also very much love lotr (read the books like a hundred times, silmarillion as well), star wars and star trek, harry potter, but c'mon - there is A LOT to laugh about in all of those! for those of you who enjoy laughing: watch charlie hopkinsons "gandalf reacts" or "obi-wan reacts", it's amazing!!
3:00 well maybe another reason would be that they both are leaders of their respective race so if only one would walk out it would most likely start unending wars and massacres
I'm a huge fantasy fan but i think LOTR is a bit overated, still respect the hell out of what it did for the genre and it's definitely a good story but there are so many others i prefer so poking a bit of fun at it tickles me.
I hated Fellowship, saw it in the theatre when it first came out and literally stood up and picked up my coat at one point coz I thought it was about to finish and then it didnt and it kept going and going and people were walking around doing f--k all for another 90 minutes after that. mind numbingly boring. Watched it again when it came out on dvd coz people were saying best film of all time and figured I must have missed something....nope...still tediusly boring....never watched the other two.
It's literally part of a 3 part story, you can't just stop at 1. Think of it as 1 film split into 3, fellowship is just the first part. A lot of people rate fellowship as the lowest until they watch the other 2 and see just how much it connects and perfectly sets up the story
I totally thought Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli were just going to give Frodo their weapons the first time I watched it too. I love love the LOTR movies and books, best trilogy ever imo, and love to laugh at jokes at it’s expense too. I feel the subject matter is definitely strong enough to stand up to the taunts, anyone who doesn’t takes shit too seriously. My husband and I love this scene from Clerks 2 where the one guy is just ripping on the movies and this try-hard douche fan gets so mad m.ruclips.net/video/RPl5MeXIM8E/видео.html&pp=ygUaQ2xlcmtzIDIgbG9yZCBvZiB0aGUgcmluZ3M%3D Have you seen flight of the conchords? Funny offbeat sitcom where one of the main characters is deputy cultural attaché at the New Zealand consulate in New York and he admits LOTR hype is all they have really going for them. My favorite Sean Bean death is as Boromir. I love his redemption, it always brings me to tears. Or in Equilibrium for his quiet defiance. I haven’t seen him as 006 but now I must.
I am a big LotR fan, even got a tattoo of my name in Elven writing. And I can laugh at this!
I'm waiting for Sean Bean to be casted in a fantasy movie where he has a resurrection spell on him and he's killed over and over again and just keeps coming back.
If you watch The Gamers: Dorkness Rising, it has a scene like that but with a Bard character!
He would've been PERFECT for the lead role in Edge of Tomorrow! Tom Cruise died hundreds of times in that! 😂
@@drkushajagadeesh6347 LOL
Edge of Tomorrow Sean Bean edition - it never gets resolved. He just dies in infinity. :D
I mean...when you think about it, they missed a HUGE opportunity not casting Bean as Doctor Strange...that scene where he bargains with Dormammu would have been 10 times better...mmm, so many Bean deaths that could have been. LOL
FWCI Etc and @donkfail1, there's a movie where Sean Bean plays twins so he can die and survive the movie. Otherwise, why else would they get Sean Bean to play twins?
I am a big LOTR fan, but I guess I’m one of the few who can take a step back and see how the movies could be perceived by those who haven’t read the books or those like me who saw the films and delved in to the lore like I did.
As Bilbo says in the Fellowship of the Ring: It was just a bit of fun!
Me too!
yeah, this and the fandom of star wars can be really intense... i don't get it - absolutely agree, it's just a bit of fun!
(i also very much love star wars and star trek, harry potter, but c'mon - there is A LOT to laugh about in all of those! for those who enjoy laughing: watch charlie hopkinsons "gandalf reacts" or "obi-wan reacts", it's amazing!!)
I'm a massive LOTR fan, and I love spoofs of the material. My main theory on why Ryan George didn't go harder on this film is because he used up most of his time budget just explaining the plot. 😁
I recommend How It Should Have Ended's (HISHE) take on the franchise. It's also a good laugh.
I loved your reaction to the series, and I'm excited for the next two LotR pitch meeting reacts!
Fellowship is my personal favourite by quite a bit. It built the world the most in my opinion, it's got a good mix of cozy vibes, adventure, and action, Gandalf the Gray is my favourite character (he's not quite the same as Gandalf the White), and it's the most contained with everything happening surrounding one single group. It feels like a Dungeons and Dragons adventure, and I love that.
And as a lifelong fan of LotR, I love poking fun at it! Some people just get defensive, and they tend to be loudest. You're not gonna hear as much from the people who don't feel like they gotta complain. The last thing I would ever want is someone to be driven away from this incredible trilogy because of the toxic fans. Though, sometimes mistaken for those toxic individuals, are just passionate fans who love to explain stuff and answer questions people have about our favourite series.
As one of those passionate fans, I want to briefly explain just one thing brought up in this video. Believe me there's a lot more I could talk about but I'm holding myself back: In the scene with Elrond and Isildur in Mt Doom, there's both a meta reason and a few lore reasons why Elrond didn't stop him. Meta reason is that it just didn't happen that way in the books. Simple as. And a couple lore reasons are (1), that it would probably have been politically _apocalyptic_ if a leader of the Elves shoved the king of the Humans into a volcano, and (2) Elrond would have been overtaken by the ring if he attempted to bring about its destruction, and he would have ended up claiming it for himself. Within Mt Doom, it is essentially impossible to willingly destroy the ring. The wise Elrond at the very least probably knew it would be a bad idea for someone as powerful as he is to get too close to it, lest he end up as another Dark Lord.
In the books was it established that Elrond and Isildur actually went to the crack of doom? I'm not sure, but I thought Isildur decided to claim the ring right after the battle. Makes sense for the movie I guess because it's a more epic location.
The Harvard Lampoon did a book-length parody in 1969, Bored of the Rings. The Boromir character is referred to throughout as "the man with the pointed shoes". It is prophesied:
Five-eleven's your height, one-ninety your weight
You cash in your chips around page eighty-eight
Loved the humorous take you had with LOTR, that’s why I subscribed. Had a lot of fun watching the reactions! Greetings from Sweden 😄🇸🇪
been a LOTR fan for over 20 years (books and movies), Tolkien is my fav author. I love watching reactions to the movies from people who have never read the books, yours in particular. It gives me a fresh perspective, and yeah, brightens my day :)
2:17 I know why he reached out to grab him...because he was confident that Isildur was any threat to him!
Always cool to see other perspectives to LOTR. Fellowship is my personal favorite of all three because of the peaceful beginning and the Moria sequence. Always gives me immense joy and nostalgia, and I enjoy the slower pace.
Pitch Meeting has an excellent video for the LOTR Rings of Power (amazon prime) show.
There were a few reasons they couldn't take the Eagles to Mordor.
Firstly, the Eagles don't take orders and are reluctant to carry anyone. Gandalf sometimes gets a pass because he saved their king once
Second, the Eye of Sauron could see them flying through an empty sky from miles off and turn the full force of his army to stopping them and retrieving the ring
Third, the Eagles were agents of the will of Manwe and therefore count as divine intervention, which is considered a last resort from the Gods/Angels ruling Middle Earth
Well Pippin and Merry actually were responsible for a lot including getting Frodo out of the Shire, Getting Frodo stabbed by the Nazgul and expedited to Rivendell, Getting Gandalf killed because of the noise Pippin made and then allowing Frodo to escape from the Uruk invasion while also making the enemy think they had the halflings with the one ring when they took them. The enemy then though the Frodo and the ring were somewhere en route to Rohan which allowed Frodo and Sam a path with less resistance through the marshes.
So even though they were annoying in the first movie, they actually are responsible for Gandalf the White and keeping the enemies eyes fixed on Rohan.
2:55 it is because Isildur is the descendant of his twin brother who began the royal blood line!
I can confirm that I do, in fact, exist.
All about taking the piss out of things I love. Love LOTR, but there is some ish in the movies that's a bit... ehhhhh. Same with Star Wars, Harry Potter, Star Trek, Krull, Dune, The Dark Crystal, Stargate, Legend, Babylon 5, The Expanse, Blade Runner, etc... There are gonna be holes in plots, always gonna be something to point at and piss other off about. We laugh because we love. This could be said about a lot of things in life, but I ain't about to go there. Love that I found your channel. Mahalo & Aloha.
I love lord of the rings but I still laugh at it at 😂. And favorite Sean bean death was in equilibrium
Been a huge LOTR fan since I saw the films at the cinema. Love your sense of humor. If you can't make fun of what you love then others will and it will hurt too much. Also fav Sean Bean death has to be his worst one to date which is in the film 'Black death' won't spoil it for any one but its a brutal and bloody end to a great character.
Yay! Looking forward to all the LotR and The Hobbit pitchs 😁
Ps: would be cool if u go back 5s after you pause 🥺
I watched the extended edition and I had still no idea what was going on. xD
My favorite Sean death was in Game of Thrones, it was the first time I watched a "protagonist" truly die, it shocked me
One down, two more Pitch Meetings to go.
Samwise is the true hero. He carried the ring after Frodo was attacked by Shelob and then he carried Frodo to Mount Doom/Orodruin/Amon Amarth....whatever you call that blasted place.
I always recommend the theatrical cut for first time viewing. Pacing means everything on a first watch.
Agreed, though if someone watches the theatrical cut of Fellowship and really loves it then it's probably safe to watch the next 2 extended.
1. While the eye would have probably spotted the eagles approaching Mount Doom, the only aerial countermeasure Sauron had were the Nazgul anyway, whose flying mounts the eagles seemed to be fighting off very well, actually). Pair that with Gandalf riding on one using his blinding light spell to fend them off (like he did to save Faramir's troup), and they should actually be relatively successful against them.
2. The flying creatures the Nazgul are not dragon's, but Fellbeasts, flying reptilian monsters that were never described as dragons in the books.
3. The problem with Operation 'Fly-The-Ring-To-Mount-Doom' is the *eagles themselves.* In Tolkien's universe, the eagles are far more than just really giant birds. They are pretty much demigods, part of the Maiar, up there with other beings like Gandalf and Saruman. Therefore they would be highly susceptible to The One Ring's allure and corruption
That is why Gandalf strictly refused to take the Ring from Frodo, unless with Sauron himself, the Ring always ends up wielding the wearer's power, not the other way around.
Therefore putting the One Ring anywhere near the eagles (who once took down a dragon big enough to collapse three volcanoes when it fell to the ground), would a terrible idea.
Notice how Gandalf only brings in the Eagles to pick up Frodo and Sam at Mount Doom AFTER witnessing the destruction of Sauron and getting 100% confirmation that the One Ring is no more.
I've got to go with Equilibrium when it comes to Sean Bean's death. It was graceful and dark, just the way I like my toast.
Not necessarily for a video but you should DEFINITELY watch the production and behind the scenes. It's amazing
The eagles: in this universe, there's like a Zues-type god in "heaven" which is like a utopian Iceland type island where nothing bad can happen. He creates all sorts of beings, and at some point they're allowed to leave heaven and go to where all our characters live. The leader eagle is sort of equivalent to Sauron or Gandalf in what class of being he is. The eagles don't like to meddle in the things of the lesser beings so they only help Gandalf really, and Gandalf has spent his earthly life speaking to them, developing a relationship. They help Frodo/Sam out of pity rather than help them do what they wanted to do. As a plot device, all it does is allow there to be a "happy ending" instead of Sam/Frodo die valiantly after completing this mission. Frodo is invited to go to heaven, Sam starts a family.
I was told that the Eagles were only allowed to be summoned every so often, though not all the time. The Nostalgia Critic did a top a "11 list of the dumbest Lord of the rings moments" a few years back and it's actually funny, reccomend it.
My mum read me The Hobbit when I was five, I read LoTR myself for the first time, one chapter each day, in my early teens, I spent a combined 4 weeks in a tent queueing for decent LoTR premiere tickets... I think I can call myself a fan :P And I consider the film trilogy to be the best ever made, hands down. Absolutely no problem chuckling along to this. :)
Oh, and I was probably the first person in the world to buy tickets for the first Hobbit movie, since my home town cinema made a boo-boo and started selling tickets a week too early, and I was first in line for that x'D But we don't talk too much about those movies. Decent popcorn movie but _far_ from the masterpiece this trilogy is.
Regarding the "plot hole" with the Giant Eagles:
It would have been like flying from Canada to the front lawn of the White House in an Apache helicopter, to pay the President a surprise visit. Yeah, no, gonna get shot down pretty quickly.
There's an excellent short audio clip [edit: not real it turns out] of Tolkien answering the questions about the eagles, where he very politely says "I'll tell you what I tell all of the fans who ask me this question: shut up." 😂
That was a fake parody clip but still funny
He was already on the defensive in 1958 (Letter 210): "The Eagles are a dangerous 'machine'' " (i.e. deus ex machina). In-universe the Eagles are sentient but they are animals, they don't have souls. They are loyal to Gandalf personally but they are not part of the bigger drama with the Ring.
@@Zacheize oh wow, thank you for letting me know... I hadn't heard enough recordings of him to know the difference I guess. I will stop spreading the rumor lol.
I try to be on the lookout for fake stuff (especially sensational folk etymologies that everyone repeats) but you can't catch them all I guess!
You should check out “Jack Black Lord of the Rings”. It’s where he’s in the council of Elrond.
There are a few reasons why the eagles couldn’t fly the ring to Mordor.
First off, they are more than just bigger versions of the birds in our world. They are servants of one of the gods (to keep things simple, calm down Tolkien needs) and have elf like wisdom and intelligence. They are sentient creatures, and thus, also corruptible by the ring’s power. They could have been tempted as they got closer to Mordor.
Also being sentient, they have their own free will and try to avoid the threat of death as much as any person would. As Tolkien said, “they are not taxis”. The only reason Gandalf was able to get a ride was because they owed him a favor for saving one of them previously.
Lastly, they are very vulnerable creatures. No matter how much surprise they could take Sauron by, there was most likely enough firepower in Mordor (including the fell beasts) to take down the eagles as they approached mount doom. Remember that when Sam and Frodo crossed Mordor is had been emptied of its troops for two recent battles. The eagles would have shown up to a full house guarding Mordor (if they had the willpower to even get the ring that far).
Huge LotR fan, absolutely love these! I like seeing other people's opinions & thoughts of it.
Also, this isn't serious, so I have no issue with it. It's purely for comedy & entertainment.
Mae govannen mellonin a meneg suialid.
Lotr and everything Middle Earth, is the greatest piece of fiction to have ever been. I have seen all the movies more times than I can remember and I've read everything Tolkien ever wrote about Middle Earth lore. I also love all the memes and jokes and laughing about it. One shouldnt have to read multiple "unrelated" books just to understand why something is a certain way in a specific story.
The "Sauron reaches out with his hand, for no apparent reason" thing annoyed me, like, in the book his hands were his weapons, he didn't have a mace, he just (in laymen's terms) exploded people with his magic infused karate- so "Lets give him a spiky mace to make him more menacing" was an unrequired addition that, like many of them, were all about the spectacle and added issues as a result. Personally I would have the scene show him effortlessly drag Elendil around a bit as he whacks rando's with his mace (one at a time, not throwing hordes up into the air with each swing), showcasing he really is able to outmatch even the best warriors, toying with the king as he killed the kings guard and then disposing of the king himself (emphasises his evil nature while intimidating the army he was fighting), then imply he was intending to do the same to Isildor, which means cutting the ring off as he reaches down then easily makes sense.
Why didn't Elrond kill Isildor in mount doom? Well, had he, the elves and men would have fallen out, don't forget they both had these massive armies sat outside and assassinating the king of one group would have massive implications. Personally I think they should have shown Isildor put the ring on as he dipped to quickly explain away any of the questions.
Eagles: You're right, Sauron had an immortal air force, but more than that, his land was full of all kinds of bad guys, they would of been seen entering and where ever they landed would of been swarmed by every ounce of beastie the eye could summon- being that mount doom didn't have an open top (another "for the spectacle thing" added by the movie) meant they couldn't even do a George Lucas inspired xwing lucky shot into the exhaust style bombing run with the ring.
Weather top/ Amun suin: The only really poorly thought out scene in the fellowship imo, it feels like a LOT was cut as the engagement starts to skip ahead to frodo putting the ring on so they could spend the time building the suspense and terror of their approach, and it suffers massive plot armour looking flaws as a result.
The films aren't perfect, but they are still hands down the best adaptation of a book I've ever seen and will forever be the gold standard for how to make a fantasy movie, and the world within it feel "Real".
Also in the books I don't think it was established that Elrond and Isildur actually went to the crack of doom, I want to say Isildur had already decided to keep the ring before it got that far. So they probably would have had that argument down on the battlefield or something where shoving Isildur into the volcano wouldn't have been an option. I mean, they were on the mountain, but I think the movie embellished a bit with them literally standing over the lava.
I too exist lol as much as I love the movies they AREN'T perfect and it can be fun to pick on it a bit lol that being said, its still pretty much top tier. I gotta say though, since just about every single scene is extended and then deleted scenes are sprinkled throughout, it wouldve been waaaay more efficient to just watch the extended versions because now you set yourself up to basically watch both versions anyway lol
Hey, is the "tread lightly" in your title a reference to _Equilibrium_ (which has Sean Bean in it)? (Although that's "Tread softly", so maybe not). If not, then please do check out that movie (even if you don't react to it - but it'd be great if you did!).
Nope, its a reference to getting roasted by LOTR fans in my reaction comments lol
I am a lotr fan but I can also laugh at it being made fun of, so long as it's done tasteful
Oh fellowship was your least favorite?
I think thats pretty unique, atleast in my circle of friends. Its usually between fellowship and two towers for favorite.
Also dont worry about people being dumb. Some of us love fantasy a lot and its hard to understand someone who doesnt, but were all different!
The eagles don't take orders from anyone except Manwë-the king of the Valar (the "gods" of this universe who don't want to interfere much in the affairs of the free peoples of Middle Earth). That's why they only show up as Deus ex Machina, at the last minute, or when all hope seems to be lost.
The Valar live in Valinor, the Undying Lands, located outside the world. It can be reached on an elven boat sailing the "straight path." That's where Bilbo, Frodo, and Gandalf go after everything's done. Elves go there too when they grow weary of Middle Earth-eventually, they all depart, leaving Middle Earth to Men, Dwarves, and Hobbits.
I’d love to see you react to Tom Cardy’s song ‘The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the it's my book they will walk if I tell them to’. There’s also the meme video ‘taking the hobbits to isengard’
LOTR fan here
yeah, the lotr-fandom and the fandom of star wars can be really intense... i don't get it, as another commenter quoted bilbo himself: "it's just a bit of fun!"
i also very much love lotr (read the books like a hundred times, silmarillion as well), star wars and star trek, harry potter, but c'mon - there is A LOT to laugh about in all of those!
for those of you who enjoy laughing: watch charlie hopkinsons "gandalf reacts" or "obi-wan reacts", it's amazing!!
Yep. Still watching, loving LotR but was expecting you would give it more hilarious shittalking while watching kind of like you did with Harry Potter.
U should check out sean bean 8 out of 10 cats he's got a comedic side
Big fan of the series, but I can never not laugh at this.
3:00 well maybe another reason would be that they both are leaders of their respective race so if only one would walk out it would most likely start unending wars and massacres
I think Sean Bean’s death in Fellowship is his best death scene. So much power and could have been corny with worse actors
One does not simply make fun of the Lord of the Rings.
Most of us are pretty cool. Don’t listen to the 1% of us with our weed stuck in the pipe.
This hurts me to the core, i was expecting him to come out and just say i have the script for the best films ever made.
Super easy barley an inconvenience!
I'm a huge fantasy fan but i think LOTR is a bit overated, still respect the hell out of what it did for the genre and it's definitely a good story but there are so many others i prefer so poking a bit of fun at it tickles me.
So .. basically they could not fly to Mordor .. because that would be really shitty and short story :D
Yes, do The Hobbit but please for the love of God, stay away from Rings Of Power!
I hated Fellowship, saw it in the theatre when it first came out and literally stood up and picked up my coat at one point coz I thought it was about to finish and then it didnt and it kept going and going and people were walking around doing f--k all for another 90 minutes after that. mind numbingly boring. Watched it again when it came out on dvd coz people were saying best film of all time and figured I must have missed something....nope...still tediusly boring....never watched the other two.
It's literally part of a 3 part story, you can't just stop at 1. Think of it as 1 film split into 3, fellowship is just the first part. A lot of people rate fellowship as the lowest until they watch the other 2 and see just how much it connects and perfectly sets up the story
I totally thought Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli were just going to give Frodo their weapons the first time I watched it too. I love love the LOTR movies and books, best trilogy ever imo, and love to laugh at jokes at it’s expense too. I feel the subject matter is definitely strong enough to stand up to the taunts, anyone who doesn’t takes shit too seriously. My husband and I love this scene from Clerks 2 where the one guy is just ripping on the movies and this try-hard douche fan gets so mad m.ruclips.net/video/RPl5MeXIM8E/видео.html&pp=ygUaQ2xlcmtzIDIgbG9yZCBvZiB0aGUgcmluZ3M%3D
Have you seen flight of the conchords? Funny offbeat sitcom where one of the main characters is deputy cultural attaché at the New Zealand consulate in New York and he admits LOTR hype is all they have really going for them.
My favorite Sean Bean death is as Boromir. I love his redemption, it always brings me to tears. Or in Equilibrium for his quiet defiance. I haven’t seen him as 006 but now I must.