Planica 2005 especially that last day was probably the best ski jumping weekend ever. Conditions were perfect and distances were just amazing from 10,12 jumpers..
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2005 Planica was the greatest event ever in ski jumping imo. Remember watching it live on TV when I was 10. Seeing two of my countrymen (norway) take world records in the same event was insane. In addition, there was a rivalry atmosphere with the Fins being so good. I was also an Ahonen fan, so I couldn't help being nervous about the result either way, and the dramatic fall made the event that much more amazing. The previous record was Norwegian as well, and it was like a defending the title story. Since the falls weren't very damaging, the event was not spoiled either. Great storyline all around. It felt like anyone could come out as a formidable contender with the conditions being as they were.
What I think is much more impressive is the fact that the average distance was 210m (1st round) and 219 (2nd round). Sick! Almost everybody jumped over 200m.
They used Gate 9,5 (between 9 and 10) for final round (including this jump). Average distance in final round was 218.9m, what ist absolutely crazy. Best skijumping competition ever.
New hill & new hill record with +9,5m in perfect telemark. 2015 event was crazy with 163 jumps and average 209,5m !!! On friday some jumpers with jumps well beyond 200m mark didn't qualify into 2nd series. If that's not funny... Crazy just like the 2005 season. I just hope we won't have to wait 10 more years for another crazy Planica event :D
Ein Klasse Kommentar von Gerd Siegmund und Dirk Thiele ! Es war beeindrucken was sich im März 2005 dort abspielte. 3 Rekorde + Persönliche Bestwerten verschiedener Nationen. So viele Springer über 2015m. Das Planica Lied muss ja schon genervt habe! (wird immer über 214,5 m gespielt)
@95js95 Yes, they are. According to the world cup scedule, two competitions will be held there on February 12th and 13th. Some vital stats for the new Vikersund hill: Hill size- 225m. Kalculation point- 195m. Inrun lenght- 124m. Height difference of the inrun- 65,55m. Height difference from jump to bottom of the hill- 135m.
Vikersund HS225 is now compeated, and it is possible to stand on jumps close to 260 meters in that hill, so we in Norway hope to make history with the first jump over 250 meter this winter. The hill is also made so that it will be cheap and easy to enlagre the hill in the future, and plans for enlagment to HS 240 is ready five years from now.
@HebinatorandJaksibob Dem kann ich nur zustimmen: Dirk Thiele und Gerd Siegmund sind das beste, was das deutsche Fernsehen an Sportkommentatoren zu bieten hat. Kompetent und gleichzeitig sehr humorvoll. Die nehmen sich auch mal auf die Schippe. Klasse!
That jump was somewhere around 700 feet! I will watch skiing now and then but I had no one idea how far they were jumping. 2 American football fields including the endzones. 239m is about how far I can drive a golf ball. WOW
That was amazing. I have this recorded on VCR. The best ski jumping event ever. I hope someone will beat the record this year, but if that crybaby Schlierenzauer complains once again that the inrun is too long and judges obey him, we'll have a very lackluster event. In Vikersund individual judges obeyed him and he couldn't even jump 210 meters, if they obey him once again no one will jump 230 this year (including Gregor himself).
@astra606 : für die schieflug-WM 2010 in PLanica wird im radius wieder etwas abgetragen also höhere wieten möglich! Also--> Schlierenzauer-Planica-2010
@95js95 Precisely! By the way, sat and watched the inauguration of the new Vikersund today. The test jumpers for this weekends WC event did a run-through, and two of them reached 218 and 219 meters without any headwind at all at the bottom of the hill. Now, if we get a good headwind all the way down the hill this weekend, we'll see some serious(!) flying (provided the jury are willing to let it happen, of course...). This hill is bloody HUGE. I can't wait! :-)
@Yashimo7777 Its all about the wind blowing up in the hill. If its alot of wind blowing up the hill, u wont need so much speed, but if it blows the other way u need more speed
Das war wohl einer der besten Wettbewerbe, die es jemals im Skispringen gegeben hat... Würde es so einen hochkarätigen Wettkampf bei den Olympischen Spielen geben, wäre das eindeutig ein Stück Sportgeschichte
@juraldinho123 yeah but this year vikersund is bigger. And if i have understand it correct, Vikersund as as large as an hill could be. If they wanna build planica larger then fis havto change rules that say how big the hills could be. But i think is good that more hills are starting to get bigger, then we well se longer and longer jumps in the future
what are you talking?? he fell at 210m because he made a mistake! he complained then when he fell at (i think) 224m because nobody could stay this width! and this year there will be a new worldrecord because the hill is a little enlarged now.
Finally!!! search for Andre Keissewetter (GER), WR distance jump long 196m, but written down as 192m to prevent wide hunting of world records. He touched the snow with hands. Keissewetter - 196m - Planica 1991 /watch?v=QprM_CYhoiw
@HebinatorandJaksibob Stimme da vollkommen zu! Und genauso kommen auch so Sätze wie "...mir klebt die Zunge fest", oder "dem müssen doch die Kniescheiben wegspringen". :D Einzig RTL konnte mit der 4 Schanzentournee mit Jauch und Thoma noch mithalten, aber auch nur wegen der Vorberichterstattung.
How can you tell? He didn't even try to land! He deliberately fell to demonstrate that the inrun was to high, but if he tried to land, he might have stood that. Who knows? And his complaint lead to very low inruns in the individual competition. Today's trainings and qualification showed that after that event the jury is affraid to set the high inrun gate and the competition suffered - no one jumped more than 215, when you theoretically can jump 245. I hope they won't spoil it tomorrow.
@janb93 I'm not angry at Vikersund.. I just like natural hills better. Actually Vikersund is fine, but hills like oberstdorf.. It just doesn't seem right. About the new Planica.. I think it should be as big as Vikersund. So that WR would be possible on more than just one hill. I hope that Vikersund will do that (match the new Planica size), when/if it gets even bigger in the future.
@janb93 I didn't post any bullshit about Vikersund stealing WR from Planica.. Planica is being renovated right now, they are going to deepen it so it will be possible to fly past 270m(FIS approved plans) - it can be safely extended even further - at least that Mr. Gorisek said(he and his son also made plans for Vikersund).
@allezpetrova Ja, beim Skispringen macht Eurosport keiner was vor, das ist die Sportart, in der Eurosport Maßstäbe setzt... Die haben zwar keine Vorberichte (wozu auch?), aber was ich echt gut finde, dass mal einfach so ein Springer in die Kommentatorkabine reinschneit und bisschen erzählt, das ist tausendmal besser als diese 08/15-Standardinterviews der ARD und ZDF... Ist alles viel persönlicher und entspannter dann...
Isn't it weird that his style of flying, with the skis held almost parallel, allows him to fly further that the old V-style? Yet, I don't think this works every time...
No i przez Schlierenzauera spierdolili całą Planicę. Jak już zapowiadało się na wielki konkurs w niedzielę (był wiatr, odpowiednia belka itp.), to zaczęli obniżać... Co oni myśleli, że jak Ammann skoczył 233 to Schlieri skoczy 250? Przecież on nigdy nie gromił rywali taką różnicą (nie to co Małysz, który wygrywał o 40 pkt, ale jemu jakoś belki nie obniżali). W efekcie w ciągu CZTERECH dni Planicy mieliśmy chyba ze trzy skoki powyżej 220 metrów. Dno!
Bjoern Einar Romoeren is one of the best ski flyers ever and he made 2 World Records on the same weekend. FACT! Matti Hautamaeki is better then Romoren. He made 3 WR in 2003 in same weekend :D
104 km/h i wiatr pod narty - WTEDY POZWOLONO IM NA DALEKIE LATANIE ale niestety juz nie pozwola... Malysz skaczac 225m (tez z wiatrem pod narty) skoczyl kiedys 225m! Schlieri w dzisiejszej formie skoczylby (gdyby bylo mozna) z 250m z takim wiatrem i 104km/h
Vikersund will never have the same feeling as this
the 2005 event in planica was insane.
Planica 2005 especially that last day was probably the best ski jumping weekend ever. Conditions were perfect and distances were just amazing from 10,12 jumpers..
They jumped too high speeds. Ahonen’s jump would’ve been 250meters easily, he just had to take it down for his own safety.
Dirk Thiele und Gerd Siegmund sind die sympathischsten Kommentatoren bei eurosport. Immer klasse ihre Analysen mit schönen Sprüchen, und trotzdem neutral. Deswegen schau ich Skispringen und Skifliegen zu gerne auf EUROSPORT: Freue mich immer auf beide wenn sie ein Weltcupspringen live kommentieren.
André Schieblich leider sind sie diesen Winter wohl nicht mehr dabei. Sven Hannawald und Martin Schmitt werden die neuen Kommentatoren bei Eurosport
2005 Planica was the greatest event ever in ski jumping imo. Remember watching it live on TV when I was 10. Seeing two of my countrymen (norway) take world records in the same event was insane. In addition, there was a rivalry atmosphere with the Fins being so good. I was also an Ahonen fan, so I couldn't help being nervous about the result either way, and the dramatic fall made the event that much more amazing. The previous record was Norwegian as well, and it was like a defending the title story. Since the falls weren't very damaging, the event was not spoiled either. Great storyline all around. It felt like anyone could come out as a formidable contender with the conditions being as they were.
They jumped too high speeds. Not good, Ahonen jumped way too far.
DER BESTE KOMMENTAR DER BEIDEN FOREVER. WIR WERDEN EUCH VERMISSEN DANKE FÜR ALL DIE JAHRE!!!!
Szaranowicz was besser :)
What I think is much more impressive is the fact that the average distance was 210m (1st round) and 219 (2nd round). Sick! Almost everybody jumped over 200m.
It was too dangerous, Ahonen’s jump would’ve been 250meters easily.
They used Gate 9,5 (between 9 and 10) for final round (including this jump).
Average distance in final round was 218.9m, what ist absolutely crazy. Best skijumping competition ever.
Of course if they jump that crazy speeds everybody will fly longer. But it’s too dangerous for the best jumpers and Ahonen paid for it.
Eines der besten Springen aller Zeiten.
@janb93
Yes it can be. Planica is completely operated on voluntary work, same thing with biathlon, ski competitions etc..
Romoren is my second favorite Ski Jumper =] i love Norway and I would like to visit this country. greetings from Poland
New hill & new hill record with +9,5m in perfect telemark.
2015 event was crazy with 163 jumps and average 209,5m !!! On friday some jumpers with jumps well beyond 200m mark didn't qualify into 2nd series. If that's not funny...
Crazy just like the 2005 season. I just hope we won't have to wait 10 more years for another crazy Planica event :D
Sssaga Benches they rebuild it
Lol in 2017 you didn't qualify with 210 meters.
@@cedur2163 in 2018 with fucking 230 m
totally different hill now.
This event was entertaining yes, but too dangerous for peak Ahonen. His jump would’ve been 250meters easily but he had to force it down earlier.
Planica - the KING of ski-jumping hills!
Kommentatoren aus Leib und Seele^^
janne is LEGEND........he is THE man^^
Ein Klasse Kommentar von Gerd Siegmund und Dirk Thiele !
Es war beeindrucken was sich im März 2005 dort abspielte.
3 Rekorde + Persönliche Bestwerten verschiedener Nationen.
So viele Springer über 2015m.
Das Planica Lied muss ja schon genervt habe! (wird immer über 214,5 m gespielt)
Dirk in Hochform.
die beiden sind die geilsten kommentatoren :D
Ok ich bin der einzige der hier 2019 kommentiert😂 ich liebe dieses video btw❤
Das beste! 😁
Ne das ist ein Druckfehler :D
Lukas F. Stell dir das bei ard zdf vor
mittlerweile sind 240m relativ normal😀
@95js95
Yes, they are. According to the world cup scedule, two competitions will be held there on February 12th and 13th.
Some vital stats for the new Vikersund hill:
Hill size- 225m.
Kalculation point- 195m.
Inrun lenght- 124m.
Height difference of the inrun- 65,55m.
Height difference from jump to bottom of the hill- 135m.
Vikersund HS225 is now compeated, and it is possible to stand on jumps close to 260 meters in that hill, so we in Norway hope to make history with the first jump over 250 meter this winter.
The hill is also made so that it will be cheap and easy to enlagre the hill in the future, and plans for enlagment to HS 240 is ready five years from now.
Bjoern's dance = I died xDD
@HebinatorandJaksibob
Dem kann ich nur zustimmen: Dirk Thiele und Gerd Siegmund sind das beste, was das deutsche Fernsehen an Sportkommentatoren zu bieten hat. Kompetent und gleichzeitig sehr humorvoll. Die nehmen sich auch mal auf die Schippe. Klasse!
Ten lot jest najlepszy i widać jak sobie zajebiście leci nie to co Evensen
Planica 2005 war schon ein ganz größes Kino!
Einfach genialer Sprung, sowas muss einfach nur GEIL sei!
That jump was somewhere around 700 feet! I will watch skiing now and then but I had no one idea how far they were jumping. 2 American football fields including the endzones. 239m is about how far I can drive a golf ball. WOW
That was amazing. I have this recorded on VCR. The best ski jumping event ever. I hope someone will beat the record this year, but if that crybaby Schlierenzauer complains once again that the inrun is too long and judges obey him, we'll have a very lackluster event. In Vikersund individual judges obeyed him and he couldn't even jump 210 meters, if they obey him once again no one will jump 230 this year (including Gregor himself).
ODEBRAAAAŁ! ODEBRAAAŁ!!!! REKOOORD! REKORD ŚWIATA!!! FANTASTYCZNIE!!!!!!!!!
@astra606 :
für die schieflug-WM 2010 in PLanica wird im radius wieder etwas abgetragen also höhere wieten möglich!
Also--> Schlierenzauer-Planica-2010
Adam Malysz ist der Beste insgesamt betrachet von den Aktiven und mittlerweile min. auf dem Niveau von Ammann.
Gold wäre echt Gerecht für ihn!
next year we are taking present record from Vikersund back to Planica! :D
@95js95 Precisely! By the way, sat and watched the inauguration of the new Vikersund today. The test jumpers for this weekends WC event did a run-through, and two of them reached 218 and 219 meters without any headwind at all at the bottom of the hill. Now, if we get a good headwind all the way down the hill this weekend, we'll see some serious(!) flying (provided the jury are willing to let it happen, of course...). This hill is bloody HUGE. I can't wait! :-)
Golden era of ski jumping
@Yashimo7777
Its all about the wind blowing up in the hill. If its alot of wind blowing up the hill, u wont need so much speed, but if it blows the other way u need more speed
way better than last time when he lost a ski...back on dec 1st, took quite a fall,this time he just flew 4-ever...wow great jump!
Das war wohl einer der besten Wettbewerbe, die es jemals im Skispringen gegeben hat... Würde es so einen hochkarätigen Wettkampf bei den Olympischen Spielen geben, wäre das eindeutig ein Stück Sportgeschichte
well that jump wont be possible without our snow queen planica
good night from slovenia ;)
Das waren noch ZEITEN !!! The best time ever !!!
@orvelski Maybe the new record comes in vikersund this year, that hill is bigger than planica for the moment
da muss ich dir recht geben die sicherheit der Springer ist immer noch wichtiger als so blöde Rekorde!!!
Die Kameraeinstellung ab 1:12 ist ja wohl mal der Hammer... Besser hätte es in einem Hollywoodfilm auch nicht ausgesehen ^^
Der Weltrekord muss nach Planica zurück!
The worldrecord must comme back to Planica!
It will, this year
It is stupid to discuss which hill is better. I like both hill and they have both their very individual character.
@juraldinho123 yeah but this year vikersund is bigger. And if i have understand it correct, Vikersund as as large as an hill could be. If they wanna build planica larger then fis havto change rules that say how big the hills could be. But i think is good that more hills are starting to get bigger, then we well se longer and longer jumps in the future
what are you talking?? he fell at 210m because he made a mistake! he complained then when he fell at (i think) 224m because nobody could stay this width! and this year there will be a new worldrecord because the hill is a little enlarged now.
uwielbiam oglądać ten skok
1:12 - 1:18 : Best camera angle ever!
in einer woche gehts endlich wieder los!
ich freu mich riesig auf die springen und auf gerd siegmund und dirk thiele als eurosport-kommentatoren!!!
Welche vier Springer kamen denn noch nach ihm? Ich weiß nur Ingebrigsten und Ahonen.
I was there! Crazy day
Finally!!! search for Andre Keissewetter (GER), WR distance jump long 196m, but written down as 192m to prevent wide hunting of world records. He touched the snow with hands.
Keissewetter - 196m - Planica 1991
/watch?v=QprM_CYhoiw
konkurs wszechczasów, więcej takich nie będzie :) Dokładnie pamiętam to co się tam działo :P
@HebinatorandJaksibob
Stimme da vollkommen zu! Und genauso kommen auch so Sätze wie "...mir klebt die Zunge fest", oder "dem müssen doch die Kniescheiben wegspringen". :D Einzig RTL konnte mit der 4 Schanzentournee mit Jauch und Thoma noch mithalten, aber auch nur wegen der Vorberichterstattung.
How can you tell? He didn't even try to land! He deliberately fell to demonstrate that the inrun was to high, but if he tried to land, he might have stood that. Who knows? And his complaint lead to very low inruns in the individual competition.
Today's trainings and qualification showed that after that event the jury is affraid to set the high inrun gate and the competition suffered - no one jumped more than 215, when you theoretically can jump 245. I hope they won't spoil it tomorrow.
I wonder, is he related to Jan Erik Romøren?
planica planica snežena kraljica!!
na tamte lata i na tamtą skocznie to jest kosmos
fantastisch
einfach genial die beiden
@janb93
I'm not angry at Vikersund.. I just like natural hills better. Actually Vikersund is fine, but hills like oberstdorf.. It just doesn't seem right.
About the new Planica.. I think it should be as big as Vikersund. So that WR would be possible on more than just one hill. I hope that Vikersund will do that (match the new Planica size), when/if it gets even bigger in the future.
PLANICA FTW!!! Hello from sLOVEnia =)
@janb93
I didn't post any bullshit about Vikersund stealing WR from Planica.. Planica is being renovated right now, they are going to deepen it so it will be possible to fly past 270m(FIS approved plans) - it can be safely extended even further - at least that Mr. Gorisek said(he and his son also made plans for Vikersund).
What a rush! His hangtime is like 8 or 9 seconds.
does anyone know what gate was this from?
@allezpetrova
Ja, beim Skispringen macht Eurosport keiner was vor, das ist die Sportart, in der Eurosport Maßstäbe setzt...
Die haben zwar keine Vorberichte (wozu auch?), aber was ich echt gut finde, dass mal einfach so ein Springer in die Kommentatorkabine reinschneit und bisschen erzählt, das ist tausendmal besser als diese 08/15-Standardinterviews der ARD und ZDF... Ist alles viel persönlicher und entspannter dann...
104 kmh! Simon Amman is mit 102,5kmh 236,5m!
Isn't it weird that his style of flying, with the skis held almost parallel, allows him to fly further that the old V-style? Yet, I don't think this works every time...
he is from norway my country
it is still the world record isent it ?
@Yashimo7777 But at 2003 it was 5m good wind here only 2 Meters!^^
Average wind in the final round 2005: 1.3 m/s
In todays qualification average wind was 0.59 m/s
absolutely :)
planica for the first 250m jump
zagor1974 Now Kraft jumped 2 times over 250 in Planica and Stoch flew 251,5
@18michi96
Planica WILL get her glory back!
No i przez Schlierenzauera spierdolili całą Planicę. Jak już zapowiadało się na wielki konkurs w niedzielę (był wiatr, odpowiednia belka itp.), to zaczęli obniżać... Co oni myśleli, że jak Ammann skoczył 233 to Schlieri skoczy 250? Przecież on nigdy nie gromił rywali taką różnicą (nie to co Małysz, który wygrywał o 40 pkt, ale jemu jakoś belki nie obniżali). W efekcie w ciągu CZTERECH dni Planicy mieliśmy chyba ze trzy skoki powyżej 220 metrów. Dno!
@j0mba1337
For a human to fly 239m through the air....
Would you have had the balls to do that?
@kimifan987 wie lautet die regel?
love it.....
janne Ahonen of Finland jumped more but he fell
thanks!
Fabuleux ce saut
incredible...239 metres.
@PerfectPatriotPL pochylił się mocno do przodu przy lądowaniu.
er ist der beste!!!
ADAM ADAM !
Ich fruher mich vor planica dieses Jahr weil BER ist "back in business"
1: mit welcher Geschwindigkeit landet er dort unten?
2: so ca. 140 km/h
1: Mahlzeit!
:D
Bjoern Einar Romoeren is one of the best ski flyers ever and he made 2 World Records on the same weekend.
FACT!
Matti Hautamaeki is better then Romoren. He made 3 WR in 2003 in same weekend :D
awesome jump :) but legend is one ADAM MAŁYSZ !!
He didn't land his 240m jump.
NORWAY!!
104 km/h i wiatr pod narty - WTEDY POZWOLONO IM NA DALEKIE LATANIE ale niestety juz nie pozwola... Malysz skaczac 225m (tez z wiatrem pod narty) skoczyl kiedys 225m! Schlieri w dzisiejszej formie skoczylby (gdyby bylo mozna) z 250m z takim wiatrem i 104km/h
skok na miare XXI wieku.Szkoda ze Ahonen nie ustał tego skoku :0
Almost a quarter of a kilometer....Crazy!:-o
lofi73 Now the world record is 253,5
2005-Planica
das schaut im vergleich zu heute so einfach aus,wie der die 239 m steht
@popstinkt vie kamen nach ihm. der der auch nach dem ersten durchgang führte war ljökelsoy ausserdem widhölzl
der schlieri packt das locker :)
die 224m in vickersund waren ja auch schon wahnsinn - wenn auch nicht gestanden
is he win ?