I specially appreciate how some of donte's animations have him through all of his weight into some attacks, putting him off balance. selling how inexperienced he actually is
DMC is a fun game with good gameplay. It just has terrible dialogue and bad character design choices. We all remember that phase two generations ago, when everything was all about edge. And what funny is, Devil May Cry, IS edgy, but this game went full shadow the hedgehog may cry
I gotta say, I love how Ninja theory went the extra mile to make the younger Dante seem more like a novice with his missteps, imbalance during combos and other such stuff to give a sense of scale how adult Dante has honed his skills.
Him being thrown off balance from his attacks isn't all. He's got a wider stance for lots of attacks, he does the "super hero landing" when coming from the air, and he's got less flair/showboating with his style. It all gives the impression that he is weaker, less confident, and less skilled than the older OG. it's a well done change. It carries the implication that he's still developing, and it looks good for the style they were aiming for.
They would have called it a rip off. Just like people did with saints row. It still would have gotten a lot of hate. It has more then enough similarities to the original. Even if they named something different.
Not just that, it was also because of the journalists and lack of professionalism from media and devs that sparks increased hate. Don't forget that the hate wasn't completely unjustifiable
i loved the game well besides some of the diolog with the characters and wish the last boss battle was harder if they made this exist in the same universe and this was someone else yeah i think it would
Same as I said with the Vergil comparison, it honestly feels like a younger more brash Dante fighting style wise vs the older/knows that less more accurate hits with propper power behind them work better than doing extra attacks that maybe waste energy/stamina. Love these
@@coolerthanafrieza4726 Nero in Dmc4 is less Dante, like he has banters but in lower scale than Dante. Even in DMC5, he is still like that. Having a more normal childhood growing up than Dante's probably help.
@@neardarkroad1347 he doesn't joke around with Dante but he trash talks almost all the monsters he faces just like Dante. Heck even his temper is just like Dante's when he was younger. Go replay dmc 3. In that's game Dante was around neros age and his attitude was alot similar to nero. He'd trash talk enemies and lose his shit at times especially when he is up against Vergil and that clown guy who's name I forgot. That's exactly what nero was like in dmc 5. He'd trash talk enemies and act short tempered around family especially Dante. His fighting style is also similar to Dante's. They both have a brawler type fighting style whereas Vergil is more of a strategic fighter. He may be Vergil's son but he acts like Dante.
I'll admit, some attacks feel like they have a heavier impact in DmC, mainly because of the camera effects like camera shake or the camera lagging slightly behind.
DmC Dante feels a lot more reckless and loose with his attacks, which kind of makes more sense for the kind of spirit of the series as a whole. You’re always so much more powerful than the low-level grunts you’re fighting that your priority isn’t surviving, it’s styling on them as hard as you possibly can. And you can see this attitude more in the more reckless, less professional fighting style of DmC Dante.
DmC may take a lot of flak but you have to admit the artstyle and art direction is grade A. The saturated colors differentiating limbo and the real world, the broken landscapes with floating islands and debris, and the moving structures that make the it feel like the world itself it trying to kill you. Dmc5 is a good looking game, especially on this current generation but the grays, reds & oranges, and purples of the city and qlipoth are meh.
I absolutely love DMC5. You could make a strong argument for it being the best in the series. Hell, you could make the argument that it's the best in the genre, but there's one thing it lacked and it was the beautiful levels that DmC had. A majority of DMC5's levels, while beautiful in regards to the graphics tech it used, wasn't as interesting to see from an art style standpoint. At least not until the last few levels.
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@@johnimpact260 yeah the credit even show you some awesome animations and artwork stuff... still my favorite DMC
DmC design gets old just as fast as 5s does as you play through the game. There were some good ideas for the game, but it was completely forgettable by the time you finished it. It's interesting, how much people reach to find value in DmC these days.
You what I'll give DmC Reboot props for the Reboot/Younger Dante actually stumbles and takes a second to reorient himself due to sheer force and weight of Rebellion. You get the feeling of his youth and inexperience with every strike. There's this directness as well like every newbie in the workforce that's want to be taken seriously does everything matter-factly. Something that younger pre-reboot Dante didn't do. That Dante had more control and still goofed around via jumping/riding the bodies of his targets while still kicking ass giving the impression that while he was still "new" to the business he still wasn't exactly new. You can tell that he'd been using Rebellion for a very long time and was comfortable with the weight and power of each strike. Whereas younger Dante doesn't give that impression. He's still fresh and wet around the ears. His build is not fully developed enough to handle the likes of Rebellion. Meaning he probably didn't starting practicing with Rebellion until maybe a few years prior to DmC. Maybe, if this iteration of DmC hadn't fucked up as much, we would have eventually come to see some version of the Dante we've come to know and love. I wasn't a big fan of the angel/demon thing since that never made any sense. Demons are just fallen angels thereby making Vergil/Dante full angel/demon. Nephilims are human-angel hybrid. Cambions are human-demon. It's why it was such a big deal in DMC. The second-hand of the Demon Emperor turned his back on his own kind for the sake of humanity (the weaker species/food). Not because he fell in no love with a human but because he saw something in humans that was worth fighting/defending for -- that was worth giving up his power for. Perhaps humanity's capability for compassion? Who knows? Eventually falling in love with an actual human. And that's what the Reboot failed to understand. As I look back I can genuinely see the potential had the storyline been handled differently and gotten somethings correctly lore wise. Removing the "nephilim" aspect you can see the retelling of a bastardized version of fall of Lucifer. Both brothers are angels on corrupted as of yet as children. Dante in the beging leaning into becoming a demon but finding a reason to be something more and becoming an actual angel whereas Vergil corrupted by actions of humanity's cruelty maybe? Or maybe just corrupted by the shitty life he had to live after being separated from his family falls from grace and becomes a demon? Who knows...guess we will never know. 🤷
Well yes, since reboot Dante got his memory sealed or something he probably only get to use rebellion like a punk. Young Dante in DMC3 was killing every demon he can find, believing he will eventually get revenge for his mother's death or as Dante himself like to say "hit the jackpot". So of course he can fight like Rebellion is an extensiom of his body, he got personal motivation to train and use it while reboot Dante doesn't cuz of memory loss.
@@c-sar5395 Well I can't say anything about that since I haven't played the game since it first came out and beat it in a single sitting (me who sucked balls at the time so you can imagine my disappointment). I'm just making my observations from what I've seen here but I've recently decided to maybe give it another go. I heard the Definitive Edition made some improvements. Maybe I'll change my opinions on Reboot Dante/Vergil. I'm just saying that I *like* that Reboot Dante is stumbling and has to reorient himself after doing some strikes with Rebellion. I'm not saying pre-reboot is the better version. I'm pointing out the differences between the two iterations, it helps to solidify that while these two Dantes might the same character they are still vastly different from each other due to differring life experiences. As far as I know Reboot Dante didn't grow up to become a mercenary like Dante (who also had a case of the amnesia as well mind you and for a while going the by the name of Tony Redgrave -- if I remember correctly). I like these differences in the characters. I like the visible differences in the handling of Rebellion as well. I'm sure it's the same with Vergil as well. I guess I'll see how much my opinion will change after buying the Definitive Edition and giving it another go. Most of what I remember from playing the game was the They Live!-esque style they had going on and the inner literature-nerd in me enjoyed that.
If DmC wasn't a reboot and more towards an AU i would probably love it the only thing i like about DmC is that the graphics given the time it was made Of course DMC 5 is still better but DmC's graphics itself is not bad for a 8 year old game
Well that’s exactly what Dmc is described as these days: An Alternate Universe game. And since we have DMC5, that game makes Dmc obsolete and unimportant in terms of continuity and that game’s story is filled with retcons and inconsistencies even standing on its own. I don’t want to look at Dmc and it’s world as trash just because it’s different in fact and I’m being honest here, I wouldn’t mind seeing a sequel to Dmc as I believe it’s possible to make that world interesting and also flesh out it’s characters. Now will a sequel happen? Likely not as both the original release of Dmc and the Definitive Edition in 2015 wasn’t what Capcom was hoping for in the sales department but it’s interesting to think about in my opinion.
No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't even know about ninja theory if not for dmc reboot dramma. Just check their heavenly sword or enslaved games which they did before and genuinely try to say that you loved them
DmC's Rebellion Combo was always satisfying to pull off. I really liked the little stagger he makes during the last spin of the combo to show the amount of force he uses. As a veteran DMC player (Platinum both games) the reboot wasn't a bad game at all and to be honest I wouldn't mind a sequel.
@@Mindgamingu. Yes, this version of Dante was certainly nerfed but it was a good thing IMO as the reboot was meant to be an introduction that would have lead to a sequel. Also based on reports their were already plans where we would have gotten to see Dante explore both his Angel and Demonic powers further and also rumored that he would get to fight Mundus and even free his father as Sparda isn't technically dead but imprisoned based on the story line of the reboot. But sadly we would never get to see that.
As a fan of DMC series, I only hated the reboot a lot because I thought there wouldn't be a proper sequel and I REALLY don't like what they did with the characters. But after getting DMC5 I can appreciate the gameplay "twist" that the reboot gave and it'd be a shame if it wasn't expanded upon. If ever they make a sequel I really fkin hope that they don't do the color coded enemies again, they're the only reason why I never finished the reboot (I always stop at the part where those fkers were introduced).
i wouldnt mind if the dmc reboot has other name title or if the developers have more balls to make it an 'alternate universe' people wouldnt mind so much but u make it so like it was the 'devil may cry' so the fans expectations are high because they already know dante and vergil as a character and lore wise. to take something that has already existed and turn n twist it to a matter of unrecognisable surely alienated the already established fan i played the first dmc , the dreaded 2nd dmc ' the fantastic prequel dmc 3 , and the 4th dmc all the versions of dante feels familiar and recognizeable but when i first start playing this., ive wonder and ask myself multiple times is this the 'dante' ive been playing and know before...i dont care about apearrances but the character and the persona of 'dante' here is damn...night n day compared
@@TalkingRaven_ thoose fuckers pissed me off because i had to multitask like crazy in a game without 'lock on' feature how many times i get free hits because my weapon accidently hits another type of color coded demon fuck that shit that sure is a game killer.. to circumvent around that i had to grab and pull the demon to the highest ceiling and start comboing that fucker to death that way i cant be interuppted mid combo for a mistake i didnt intend to make from the start
I still stand by my opinion that if DmC was a new IP, it would've been treated better by the players. As it is, it's just in the shadow of a series that had 4 installments (now 5), and history that long isn't easily swept away especially when the writing in the reboot is horrendous
Not to mention Ninja shot themselves in the leg with that "not in a million years" quip. Directors - "Let's mock the game of the audience we're trying to appeal to. That'll really win them over." DmC is a good game as a standalone. A great game? If by some miracle we get a sequel in the future (because there is a hardcore fanbase for DmC), I feel like it could become a great game
As a long time devil may cry fan, it warms my heart to see ppl finally giving DmC the recognition it deserves. its legitimately my fav in the franchise after 3.
I love both games, both it’s characters and story were dope. I like how in DMC5 tho; Dante looks to be more refined with his combos than ofc a younger Dante
Сколько уже играю в DmC, каждый раз восхищаюсь, насколько точно передали движения человека. Смотришь и веришь, что парень действительно так бы двигался. Все пошатывания, отводы рук-ног для равновесия и прочее. Одна из немногих игр с драками, где персонаж не просто моделька, которой плевать на анатомию и физику, а живой организм, подвергающейся действию разных сил. Мне нравится вся серия игр, но эта часть занимает особое место в моём сердечке!
Nah, Ifrit was a pair of red hot gauntlets with an armor that looks like a dragon over them which is the part that actually hits and if you look at them you can notice they still give freedom to move the fingers independently, while Eryx are just big red hulk hands with the fingers stuck in place, the only similarity between them is the color pattern.
This has proved what me and my friend have said for years, DmC: Devil May Cry, is not a bad game. It's a good game let down by some poor enemy design and lame bosses. But the basic combat system is actually really solid.
@@theatheistbear3117 they had pretty decent movesets, but their color pallete left a lot to be desired. Except for that one enemy towards the end of the game. That guy was fucking awesome.
With Nero regaining his right arm in DMC5, perhaps they will look into some of these DmC animations and repurpose them for Nero. You've seen what Nero can do with Red Queen with one arm, but what if he used them both? Also note that DmC Dante seems to be left-handed. Likely ambidextrous, but I believe that will translate over to Nero. Plus, neither of them has proper balance in their strikes.
*facepalm* they can't reuse DmC animations because DmC already reused them from DMC4. For example grapling, rebellion death coil, charge shot and roulette spin are all copied from Nero's
@@danguy6591 Grappling is a borrowed mechanic, not animation. Death Coil is completely different from any of Nero's attacks. I believe you're talking about Combo C, but you'd be wrong. Just because a character is doing multiple spins, doesn't mean it's a borrowed animation.
How would they reuse something they don't have? DmC was developed by a different studio and they have all of the assets for it. Recreate maybe but not repurpose
Donte's DmC has probably the best traversal of any dmc games, combined with an outstanding art direction. The soundtrack matched really well with the combat and with rebooted Dante. It was shallow enough for me to have fun with it, being my first dmc game ever played, while having some complexity within its combos that kept me interested. That linked delayed-combo between weapons thing was sensational aswell. The only real things that bothered me were Donte being way too annoying at the beginning and the plot being lazy.
@@lordrald09 I'm totally your opposite, I liked hitting those perfect exceed hits, giving newer attacks more damage to his combos so it keeps changing the combo variation route so yhe combat doesn't get boring. It was annoying at first but boy once I perfected Nero's Red Queen 🌹It was Total fun.
Love how devil trigger in dmc changes the environment. Also, since his hair turns white, maybe dante and vergil in the og series used to have other hair colors before unlocking more of their demonic power. I know that‘s not true, but to would be kinda cool.
Y'know, it's honestly refreshing to see a DmC comparison video and NOT have the comments bashing it constantly. Sure it deserves it's criticism but it's nice to see it having it's time in the light
Something about a sloppy character who just throws around their power is oddly badass to me, really makes me wish the characterization in the story for dante was as good as the personality in his animations
When it comes to moves that they made themselves and had their own unique animations for, Reboot Dante has some legitimately cool looking moves. But every move that they tried to "recreate" from the original honestly just looks pathetic in comparison.
In comparison with dmc 5? There is 6 year period between this games. And in comparison reboot is an European version, and original dmc’s are Japanese. Really I wish that there would be second part of reboot. There is a new Dante, new Virgil, where they had the same idea, but different ways of solving. And they fight because of this reason, not just sibling wars
@@ЛеонидБушуев-ч8р There are some animations I like better in the Reboot, and I've always felt the visual impact of your sword slashes was better in the Reboot, so that 6 year argument doesn't really stand. This isn't about graphics, it's about animation flare. Also the ending to this game was fucking terrible. The whole fight between them was a cheap and poorly planned way to try and please OG fans by having some kind of rivalry between them. You should honestly just abandon all hope for a sequel. It ain't happenin' lmao
Air hike, dt, raining force, drive, rebellion combos, rainstorm, high time, fucking stinger! I think out of all these, helm breaker looked the most natural
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 I actually liked the normal Rebellion combos. They were animated well. Every move they recreate, like stinger, looks awful.
@@ЛеонидБушуев-ч8р But you fail to realize that DMC4 a game released in 2008 has way better gameplay mechanics and runs a lot better than the reboot which was released in 2013 lmao.
@@drjcup3228 It is just me, if the characaters and actors give more impact in executing the script, it can even rival the original series and can be accepted by dmc fans aswell. Just.. like that one scene where "Virgil" got sucked by "Mondas" and "Donte" just straight up, -ah-
@@MrNiceGuyPh Lmao that part cracked me up too. It's my first introduction to the DMC franchise so I have no expectations but some of the lines just have no impact. Still liked the game though even with it's flaws.
Aerial movement in the mainline series is too comital to do platforming well. DMC 5 has a bit of Aerial control but not enough for platforming. Probably like this because of the combat system
The DmC effects looks "cool" because its not to be a realistic graphic like the RE engine, its the same thing with DMC4 that have strong and "anime" effects, the level design of DmC is also great but I prefer the dark visual of the original franchise.
Now while a lot of people hated DMC, you gotta appreciate how incredible the artwork is and how they viewed a younger Dante and Vergil and the extra mile they took to make younger Dante just a novice in terms of certain aspects and how they depicted a younger Vergil
@@-JaggedGrace- I think they hate it because of how Dante looked, not to mention I think a lot of people didn't like the new girl for some reason when I thought she was an interesting character, I honestly really like how they handled the ending as well and how the brothers ended up being such enemies to one another
Mikell Rogers It's because no one wanted a reboot at all, especially not a western one considering that every series that did that flopped in that era. DMC4 being lacking in content and not mechanics made the reaction to getting an easier game with simplified combat even worse that, let alone it being the first game to run at 30fps on consoles. The back and fourth between the fans and devs only made it worse it.
@@-JaggedGrace- Probably because the director was a piece of shit that was constantly picking a fight with the community and prattling on about how that Dante is the new thing and that OG Dante was a gay cowboy?
The DmC Dante fights like he's giving his everything in each strike to compensate the lack of skill. He's rough and hot-headed. The DMC 5 Dante on the other hand, spends less strength and his hits are more precise. Which isn't surprising at all because he has been fighting demons for like decades. Of course he understood that technique is better than raw strength.
DmC is almost 10 years old running on Unreal Engine 3. To look on par or even better than a PS5 game is insane. One thing I loved about DmC is how they intergrated the styles into one control layout. It was so smooth. Unfortunately the biggest issue I had with the combat is that they didn't have more moves. It was also dissapointing as good as the story was they didn't go deeper into it. The game was outstanding.
The Devil Trigger in DmC is beautiful. Literally Super Saiyan vibes and direct homage to OG Dante. White hair, blood red coat and the howling voices in the background 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥⚡️
Never really noticed but DmC Dante uses his left hand more than the regular DMC Dante which all combos start and end with his right hand. And also the fact and feel that DMC V Dante is less dynamic, that’s cuz compared to DmC, he is older and more experienced and thus less unnecessary movements and more precise ones. Super cool!
As a long time DMC fan, I can safely say that although I didn't like the rebooted story and design of the characters, the gameplay and world in DmC were great. It even had a more dynamic feel to it than DMC5 had which I was slightly disappointed to see. I'm glad it's back to the original cast though.
One of my favorite things about DMC5 is the fact that Dante actually feels like he's aging. Instead of just pushing it to the background and ignoring it, DMC5 Dante genuinely looks and acts like a 40-odd year old man. It's a big contrast with the teenage Dante we got back in 3. I hope that the designers are confident enough to let Dante and Vergil keep their relatively realistic aging. I need to know what a game staring octogenarian Dante looks like.
Really wished this game was a new IP because I honestly loved its gameplay style as well as the cinematic platforming and it would have been great to add more action oriented games to the competitive scene. Rather than just wait for another DMC6 or Bayonetta 4 for the next 10 years or so. Could have taken the Nephilims, Angels and Demons again but with different characters and make its a children of 6 or something.
I know, right? If they changed the names of all the characters and claimed it was merely inspired by DMC, they would’ve had an entirely new series to work with! And the DMC fans that hated the reboot probably would’ve *liked* it, because it wouldn’t feel like Ninja Theory was mocking them. Instead, we get Lady and Trish dismissed as “strippers with guns,” a Dante that smokes and knows what sex is, the writers tying to convince us that their skill is “Shakespearean” (though that one’s mostly just funny), and what’shisface outright stating that he didn’t give a shit about longtime fans of the series.
As I've commented elsewhere, I thought DmC was good, but when you're carrying the name of a legendary IP that effectively created the Character Action genre, 'good' isn't going to cut it. And yeah, every time Tameem Antoniades ran his mouth, he just hurt the game more. A real shame, because the team deserved props for the game's absolutely stellar art direction if nothing else.
Looking at DmC Dante made me think of DMC4 Nero. Like what everyone else said, he moves more like a novice. I know it’s stylish but a lot of DmC Dante’s moves leaves him wide open for a hit. Good vid.
DmC was a game i really liked very much,the story was quite generic but the enviornment,level design....the bioshock esque world...along with so many vibrant colour palettes made it stand out....i enjoyed it
Seeing a lot of misinformed comments about why people hated/didn't like DmC so let me clear this up from a technical and fan perspective. I will mainly talk about the vanilla version the definitive hardly matters cause damage was done even if it corrected a lot of problems (not all.) Combat is clunky despite animation being nice, and didn't offer much in terms of it's flexibility. Something casual players will overlook, but the difference is there if you were to advidly compate the two back to back while playing. It suffered from a lack of staples the series is known for: No lock on, two dodge buttons was pointless, NO TAUNT, forced weapon use for certain types of enemies, generic CW type plot that tried too hard to push an edgy narrative without much substance to it, and overall while the art style is nice and talent is there, it doesn't speak to anything of what the series pulls in. (Bright, splotchy colors aren't exactly something the brother of a RE game is meant to have. ) A lot of people think fans hated it for how he looks, but that's only a small portion of what went down. Donte used to look MUCH worse, in the very first trailer. He had an ugly face, white patch of hair in the back, smoked, and overall looked like a strung out druggie. His look improved, despite the grievances of him being so offputtingly different from the original, but fine. People got over it. The PR was combative against fans, the lead dev was a huge egotistical dick who fought with fans on twitter, and they constantly mocked the old one while shilling theirs. Not how to win an audience. They showed constant lack of understanding of the series, changing up what it was. "It's a reboot" "It's a re-imagining" "It's an au" and eventually, "It's an au" was what they went for, but not after several months of pittering back and forth. That, and the gameplay while competent isn't flavorful. You can have a well functioning game all day, but I found myself playing this only twice in completion (which is bad considering I have played every other title multiple multiple times. Hell even DMC2 has more playtime than this, but that's a younger me not knowing any better). Adding elements like platforming that really wasn't even platforming since it spoonfed you the actions made the game slow and the pacing uninteresting. The plus side to this is that the animation of the world 'being alive' was a nicely added touch. Last but not least, the gaming journos were the nail in the coffin. They added to the overall shitting on the original games, shitting on the fans for 'letting it fail', and constantly tried to one up why it's better than the other, and why people should buy it. It was weird. Considering they barely did this with other games at the time, yet were hyperfixated on this, making it seem like they were being paid to shill this game like it had no issues. Overall, please stop saying 'it got undeserved hate' or 'idk why people hated it' THERES YOUR REASONS. (ps. stop calling the reboot 'DMC' that's for the og series the reboot is 'DmC' )
the sounds, animations, and camera effects of DmC are so much more punchy and give better sense of badassery to the player. DMC5 forces you to play like a badass but it didn't do a great job of making me feel like one DmC had all those little things that made it so much more fun
DmC Donte’s moveset, especially when compared to DMC5 Dante’s, tells a lot about his character which is one thing I can appreciate about the reboot. You can see that his movement is more violent and packs a punch with the dynamic camera but is quite rough around the edges signifying his hot-blooded and violent nature. Compare this to Dante’s stylish yet refined movement that only has a few attacks emphasizing impact then you can see that Donte is strong but still lacking and crude unlike Dante who has so much experience that he simply plays with and styles on demons instead which shows his wacky woohoo pizza man side while still being the legendary demon hunter that he is with how polished his movements are.
it's curious how ninja theory made so much fun of the main series, and yet did everything in their power to make it as close to the original as possible
Actually, Capcom is the one that did that. They push the idea of it being a lot more different than the original franchise, while NT wanted to a more closer rendition to that of the original. Check out their early concept art works and we can agree that if they didn't push the devs in NT to go so far, but still add their original twist on things.
@@samuelsalvatore4511 nope, not even by a mile. I like the game, but that doesn't mean that I'm not unaware on what the dev said about Dante. Nor the heavy controversies that the game had produced during its release, or even the flaws that the game has too.
I always found the combat from DmC weirdly satisfying, especially with Rebellion and shooting Ebony and Ivory. I just like how I can see the bullet streaks the guns make.
I love how 'improper' reboot Dante is. The way he stumbles and waves his body around really gives me Nero vibes, which likely isn't a coincidence. Also love the game's art direction, even if it can get kinda samey. I say this as if 5's missions aren't all just blues and greys plastered everywhere lol
If DmC: Devil May Cry wasn't a DMC game, it probably would've done pretty well. Like, instead of being a reboot, they developed it into its own IP inspired by the Devil May Cry games. Granted the writing is incredibly rough and needs a total rework, it would've probably done better as a standalone series.
But you can't also deny some other DmC features that was ported made it worse. 1. The prerequisite of Summoned Sword for Vergil's Air Trick. 2. The missing of follow-up downward slash from Upper Slash. I don't understand why they decided to ported those.
@@spardathedevil7956If the color coded enemies are a problem that’s a literal skill issue. And you know that you can remap buttons, right? And before you say anything about the button layout not being “optimal”, keep in mind people switch Vergil’s Summoned swords from X to RB and do the same for the jump button for JCing.
Not gonna lie, DmC is one of my favorite from the series. And even if it makes no sense, I like to consider it as the prequel to the main Devil May Cry series.
Played the game last week out of curiosity and to my surprise, the game is actually great! The gameplay, combat, artstyle, and the music are awesome. I didn't expect much about the characters and the storyline coz I've been well informed about it, but it's actually not that awful. I would love to play more of something like DmC, maybe a sequel or a remake of a reboot (?)
This game got a lot of hate becausw "fans" want change but dont want any change at all. They dont know what they want. Tho i admit that a reboot didnt feel like it was needed and some story decisions were odd, but still decent. Anyways people hated nero in dmc4 but they hated dante in dmc so much they liked dmc5 having nero and all back again
@@thedeegeesaga its always like this with games that have a large fanbase,but personnally i liked DmC ,change is good sometimes, i liked the difference,doesn't mean it's better than the original one,but it was good,i would love to see a sequel for it.
That's because it's a great game and the storyline is fine as is. The DMC fanboys just have to keep knocking it down to prop up DMC because deep down they know DmC is better or they're just mad about the Mop Joke and can't let it go
When you now look back and try to understand why there was great negatively towards the reboot, you have to understand that it's not the quality of the product that was at fault. You can find fluent animations and generally fun gameplay. What was the problem was that it wasn't the original, but was in the position to replace it as the new DMC. You could not see it as an alternative game that you can just play alongside the original, as there was to be no more original. Everyone back then was forced to hold onto this reboot, and feel extra sad about anything from the original that was absent from the reboot. So when everyone now comes back after the original got a sequel, the context is completely different.
exactly,i think if the original dmc never came out and had directly DmC as the main one,it would have had the same success as the original one has now,it's a pretty solid storyline and a good game,its just not original,but its a good game to play
Dante’s DmC counter part performs combos and attacks like he’s high or something Speaking of which the Dmc3 version didn’t perform such things even though the Dmc3 variant and the DmC one are at a similar age
I had only played DMC3 and 4 when DmC was announced, I wasn't really super attached to the characters since I hadn't really played those games for a lot of hours. so I was really hyped for DmC as a twelve-year-old lol, although a bit dissatisfied with the character reworks. but still, I found the design, the animation, and the whole aesthetics of the game incredible. I LOVED it, and played it for hundreds of hours on Xbox and later on PC. it was kinda my first time REALLY getting into the series. I love DMC5 too, but DmC has a special place in my heart, so I kinda wish it gets a sequel. it would be awesome to have both series.
I still remember the hate DmC got because a bunch of fanboys weren't getting to play as OG Dante. The game wasn't perfect but to this day probably has the best level design and visual direction than any of the Capcom produced DMC games.
I assume you’re speaking from nostalgia? Because the level design was absolute garbage. Ffs, even DMC2 had better level design, and that was arguably the worst in the franchise, including DmC
Game was good but problem was mostly the characters were very unlikely. Sure old Dante can bit of jerk sometimes but at least not dick way. Dmc Dante other hand come out of more asshole and dick. Ninja Theory miss point of Dante character.
@@galactic-shithead390 Okay yes reboot will be different from original. But at same time keep some roots from original. Look what happened Netflix Death Note trying so hard be different from original story. Story end up being garbage and ruin characters. They turn Light into simp bitch.
One thing DmC got right was it's animation. Even so, I prefer the other, because it's less bouncy and feels like the attacks are truly impacting the enemy, rather than just passing through them.
Honestly, the only thing I can say negatively about Devil May Cry 5 is the distinct lack of any vibrant colors. Game is fun, but the areas started to blend together since nothing popped out and everything was grey or just washed out in color. Not to mention a lot of places looked almost too similar. Meanwhile, DmC has enough color differences for me to be interested in where Dante is at while things also pop out at me more.
there's a lot of nuance and polish in DmC that doesn't get enough credit. like how combos have signals that communicate different timings for starting different combos, expressed as a glare of light on your blade (etc.), which also just add to the overall flair and style. the moves have a lot more focus on color and keeping a consistent set of colors for different actions, not only as a stylistic choice but also as a indirect way of conveying information. it even ties in with the gameplay with some enemies requiring matching colors of attacks and weapons to match with their enemy's color variant. it's an amazing cohesion between a bunch of different elements, style, design and mechanics that function after the same set of rules, coming together to create one harmonious experience. this exaggerated use of color, reminding me of mirror's edge, also adds to readability and contributes to DmC being so accesible to new players. the visiual element is very deliberately crafted to cater to the gameplay element, in a more hyperbolic way. the overly colorful and stylistic enviroments and enemies actually contribute to the action very deliberately and aren't just placed there because the artists thought they were cool. a lot of animations don't just have a lot of attention in their actual active frames but in the *recovery* which is really undervalued as a means of illustrating weight and power behind an attack. after you unleash a move the motion of your attack carries forward through his body, reeling from the attack as he resets back to neutral. often in a really exaggerated way. in fact all the moves in DmC are really hyperbolic and exaggerated, it's as if they're really trying to highlight the key frames of motion like in a fighting game such as tekken. again, adding to readability. DmC seems to really stress accessibility for new players without making veteran fans feel unwelcome, which they absolutely succeeded in (even if style points are inflated and too easy to get). DmC doesn't get enough credit and recognition within the franchise imo, ppl tend to forget it was a thing, it is more of a spin-off that went in a new direction so i understand why people view it somewhat seperately from the rest of the entries in the series. but DmC absolutely deserves the same respect and love as the other games. a more cartoonish, stylistic and exaggerated style that really flows with the arcadey nature of the game, in contrast to the main series more realistic and dark visuals, DmC is extremely colorful in *everything.* this style and this gameplay could not have been accomplished without the other, i'm glad it tried to be different. even if it's drenched in angsty teenage edgelord vibes.
Lets take a sec to recognize and appreciate how risky but great the reboot was. Its not our dante with all the exagerations we know and love. But the game really worked out and shined in most points. Great game. But im happy they returned back to OGs
Still think DmC is one of the best if not THE best DMC game I’ve ever played. DMC3 was also my favorite to play, 5 was really nothing special, I played it, but it never had the replay value DmC did for me. Wish there was a sequel but “fAnS”
as i've always said: DmC can be a good game if you just warp your thoughts and erase the knowledge that the main character is "Dante" and "Vergil" is the antagonist Seriously, if they would've been called "Juan and Carlos" nobody would mind, it can be a good a game, the problem lies on trying to sell it as "Devil May Cry"
@@kenshinhimura6280 well Devil May Cry 3,4 and 5 are that and with good stories and characters. That basically makes DmC that much of an embarrassment.
I can give DmC this: I love how some attacks mess with the camera and give it a dynamic sense of punch to it, like in Overdrive
also they give a feel of "roughness" in Donte's attacks, like if he still has to refine his demon slaying skills, and it kinda fits the character
I specially appreciate how some of donte's animations have him through all of his weight into some attacks, putting him off balance. selling how inexperienced he actually is
DMC is a fun game with good gameplay. It just has terrible dialogue and bad character design choices. We all remember that phase two generations ago, when everything was all about edge. And what funny is, Devil May Cry, IS edgy, but this game went full shadow the hedgehog may cry
Like Dmc5 nero Playing Reboot Dante
DmC would've been a good game if it had a different name.
I gotta say, I love how Ninja theory went the extra mile to make the younger Dante seem more like a novice with his missteps, imbalance during combos and other such stuff to give a sense of scale how adult Dante has honed his skills.
Him being thrown off balance from his attacks isn't all. He's got a wider stance for lots of attacks, he does the "super hero landing" when coming from the air, and he's got less flair/showboating with his style. It all gives the impression that he is weaker, less confident, and less skilled than the older OG.
it's a well done change. It carries the implication that he's still developing, and it looks good for the style they were aiming for.
True!! This game got undeserved hate imo
@@thedeegeesaga it's hated mainly just because of how the devs acted about the game. the game is pretty decent, the story is just not good
@@thedeegeesaga Naw that hate was pretty justified. Game has several good elements though
@@thedeegeesaga deserved hate
If DmC wasn't called DmC and something entirely different, people would've honestly liked it a lot more
They would have called it a rip off. Just like people did with saints row. It still would have gotten a lot of hate. It has more then enough similarities to the original. Even if they named something different.
Honestly, I really love that game lol
Undeserved hate, it was really cool
Not just that, it was also because of the journalists and lack of professionalism from media and devs that sparks increased hate. Don't forget that the hate wasn't completely unjustifiable
i loved the game well besides some of the diolog with the characters and wish the last boss battle was harder if they made this exist in the same universe and this was someone else yeah i think it would
Same as I said with the Vergil comparison, it honestly feels like a younger more brash Dante fighting style wise vs the older/knows that less more accurate hits with propper power behind them work better than doing extra attacks that maybe waste energy/stamina. Love these
Same energy as Nero almost
@@crisagcol3838 weird that nero acts just like his uncle instead of being calm like vergil but its like that sometimes
@@coolerthanafrieza4726 He got Vergil's drive for power at least
@@coolerthanafrieza4726 Nero in Dmc4 is less Dante, like he has banters but in lower scale than Dante.
Even in DMC5, he is still like that.
Having a more normal childhood growing up than Dante's probably help.
@@neardarkroad1347 he doesn't joke around with Dante but he trash talks almost all the monsters he faces just like Dante. Heck even his temper is just like Dante's when he was younger. Go replay dmc 3. In that's game Dante was around neros age and his attitude was alot similar to nero. He'd trash talk enemies and lose his shit at times especially when he is up against Vergil and that clown guy who's name I forgot. That's exactly what nero was like in dmc 5. He'd trash talk enemies and act short tempered around family especially Dante. His fighting style is also similar to Dante's. They both have a brawler type fighting style whereas Vergil is more of a strategic fighter. He may be Vergil's son but he acts like Dante.
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The detail on DmC Helm Breaker, where the sword bounces off the ground. DmC animations were phenomenal.
2:49 look at his fucking hand
Sorry for the swear
@@genariperez7495 🤣
I'll admit, some attacks feel like they have a heavier impact in DmC, mainly because of the camera effects like camera shake or the camera lagging slightly behind.
The older Dante uses fewer unnecessary movements, which shows his growing up both psychologically and in his swordsmanship.
No. He has fewer movements cuz developers were lazy. DMC looks way better than 5
@@Icsis718 😂
Dmc5 is better
I don’t agree. Consider older dante having a 10 hit combo with rebellion which is a real waste of stamina (and He has it since dmc3)
The 5 dante is way too stronger than dmc dante. Stamina is not a problem for 5 Dante
DmC Dante feels a lot more reckless and loose with his attacks, which kind of makes more sense for the kind of spirit of the series as a whole. You’re always so much more powerful than the low-level grunts you’re fighting that your priority isn’t surviving, it’s styling on them as hard as you possibly can. And you can see this attitude more in the more reckless, less professional fighting style of DmC Dante.
改めて見るとmの方のグロテスクさ、生々しさ、荒々しい感じは本家とは違ったアプローチで結構好き
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DmC may take a lot of flak but you have to admit the artstyle and art direction is grade A. The saturated colors differentiating limbo and the real world, the broken landscapes with floating islands and debris, and the moving structures that make the it feel like the world itself it trying to kill you. Dmc5 is a good looking game, especially on this current generation but the grays, reds & oranges, and purples of the city and qlipoth are meh.
You should see the concept art level for the reboot, it's freaking beautiful especially for mission 2
I absolutely love DMC5. You could make a strong argument for it being the best in the series. Hell, you could make the argument that it's the best in the genre, but there's one thing it lacked and it was the beautiful levels that DmC had. A majority of DMC5's levels, while beautiful in regards to the graphics tech it used, wasn't as interesting to see from an art style standpoint. At least not until the last few levels.
@@johnimpact260 yeah the credit even show you some awesome animations and artwork stuff... still my favorite DMC
I agree RE-engine DMC looks quite pale in color compared to the reboot and 4SE.
DmC design gets old just as fast as 5s does as you play through the game. There were some good ideas for the game, but it was completely forgettable by the time you finished it. It's interesting, how much people reach to find value in DmC these days.
You what I'll give DmC Reboot props for the Reboot/Younger Dante actually stumbles and takes a second to reorient himself due to sheer force and weight of Rebellion. You get the feeling of his youth and inexperience with every strike. There's this directness as well like every newbie in the workforce that's want to be taken seriously does everything matter-factly. Something that younger pre-reboot Dante didn't do. That Dante had more control and still goofed around via jumping/riding the bodies of his targets while still kicking ass giving the impression that while he was still "new" to the business he still wasn't exactly new. You can tell that he'd been using Rebellion for a very long time and was comfortable with the weight and power of each strike. Whereas younger Dante doesn't give that impression. He's still fresh and wet around the ears. His build is not fully developed enough to handle the likes of Rebellion. Meaning he probably didn't starting practicing with Rebellion until maybe a few years prior to DmC. Maybe, if this iteration of DmC hadn't fucked up as much, we would have eventually come to see some version of the Dante we've come to know and love.
I wasn't a big fan of the angel/demon thing since that never made any sense. Demons are just fallen angels thereby making Vergil/Dante full angel/demon. Nephilims are human-angel hybrid. Cambions are human-demon. It's why it was such a big deal in DMC. The second-hand of the Demon Emperor turned his back on his own kind for the sake of humanity (the weaker species/food). Not because he fell in no love with a human but because he saw something in humans that was worth fighting/defending for -- that was worth giving up his power for. Perhaps humanity's capability for compassion? Who knows? Eventually falling in love with an actual human. And that's what the Reboot failed to understand. As I look back I can genuinely see the potential had the storyline been handled differently and gotten somethings correctly lore wise. Removing the "nephilim" aspect you can see the retelling of a bastardized version of fall of Lucifer. Both brothers are angels on corrupted as of yet as children. Dante in the beging leaning into becoming a demon but finding a reason to be something more and becoming an actual angel whereas Vergil corrupted by actions of humanity's cruelty maybe? Or maybe just corrupted by the shitty life he had to live after being separated from his family falls from grace and becomes a demon? Who knows...guess we will never know. 🤷
Damn you have so many spare time
@@FusionD1ver Thanksgiving Break :)
Well yes, since reboot Dante got his memory sealed or something he probably only get to use rebellion like a punk. Young Dante in DMC3 was killing every demon he can find, believing he will eventually get revenge for his mother's death or as Dante himself like to say "hit the jackpot". So of course he can fight like Rebellion is an extensiom of his body, he got personal motivation to train and use it while reboot Dante doesn't cuz of memory loss.
@@c-sar5395 Well I can't say anything about that since I haven't played the game since it first came out and beat it in a single sitting (me who sucked balls at the time so you can imagine my disappointment).
I'm just making my observations from what I've seen here but I've recently decided to maybe give it another go. I heard the Definitive Edition made some improvements. Maybe I'll change my opinions on Reboot Dante/Vergil.
I'm just saying that I *like* that Reboot Dante is stumbling and has to reorient himself after doing some strikes with Rebellion. I'm not saying pre-reboot is the better version. I'm pointing out the differences between the two iterations, it helps to solidify that while these two Dantes might the same character they are still vastly different from each other due to differring life experiences. As far as I know Reboot Dante didn't grow up to become a mercenary like Dante (who also had a case of the amnesia as well mind you and for a while going the by the name of Tony Redgrave -- if I remember correctly). I like these differences in the characters. I like the visible differences in the handling of Rebellion as well. I'm sure it's the same with Vergil as well.
I guess I'll see how much my opinion will change after buying the Definitive Edition and giving it another go. Most of what I remember from playing the game was the They Live!-esque style they had going on and the inner literature-nerd in me enjoyed that.
DMC3 dante is young yet he's accurate with every sword strikes
If DmC wasn't a reboot and more towards an AU i would probably love it
the only thing i like about DmC is that the graphics given the time it was made
Of course DMC 5 is still better but DmC's graphics itself is not bad for a 8 year old game
Well that’s exactly what Dmc is described as these days: An Alternate Universe game. And since we have DMC5, that game makes Dmc obsolete and unimportant in terms of continuity and that game’s story is filled with retcons and inconsistencies even standing on its own. I don’t want to look at Dmc and it’s world as trash just because it’s different in fact and I’m being honest here, I wouldn’t mind seeing a sequel to Dmc as I believe it’s possible to make that world interesting and also flesh out it’s characters. Now will a sequel happen? Likely not as both the original release of Dmc and the Definitive Edition in 2015 wasn’t what Capcom was hoping for in the sales department but it’s interesting to think about in my opinion.
No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't even know about ninja theory if not for dmc reboot dramma. Just check their heavenly sword or enslaved games which they did before and genuinely try to say that you loved them
@@danguy6591 who's ninja theory? and sorry what you're saying is irrelevant
@@ourtimousaaw1278 they are developers of DmC: Devil may Cry. Ya know, that one game you would definitely love if it would been named differently?
@@ourtimousaaw1278 aren’t reboots pretty much Alternate Universes?
The sounds are amazing in DmC. Listen to the ambience, the different slash sounds from rebellion, each one unique.
DmC's Rebellion Combo was always satisfying to pull off. I really liked the little stagger he makes during the last spin of the combo to show the amount of force he uses. As a veteran DMC player (Platinum both games) the reboot wasn't a bad game at all and to be honest I wouldn't mind a sequel.
Yeah I enjoyed it. It felt like I was playing Nero tho lol. Or like a Nerfed Dante from what I was used too.
@@Mindgamingu. Yes, this version of Dante was certainly nerfed but it was a good thing IMO as the reboot was meant to be an introduction that would have lead to a sequel. Also based on reports their were already plans where we would have gotten to see Dante explore both his Angel and Demonic powers further and also rumored that he would get to fight Mundus and even free his father as Sparda isn't technically dead but imprisoned based on the story line of the reboot. But sadly we would never get to see that.
As a fan of DMC series, I only hated the reboot a lot because I thought there wouldn't be a proper sequel and I REALLY don't like what they did with the characters. But after getting DMC5 I can appreciate the gameplay "twist" that the reboot gave and it'd be a shame if it wasn't expanded upon.
If ever they make a sequel I really fkin hope that they don't do the color coded enemies again, they're the only reason why I never finished the reboot (I always stop at the part where those fkers were introduced).
i wouldnt mind if the dmc reboot has other name title or if the developers have more balls to make it an 'alternate universe' people wouldnt mind so much but u make it so like it was the 'devil may cry' so the fans expectations are high because they already know dante and vergil as a character and lore wise.
to take something that has already existed and turn n twist it to a matter of unrecognisable surely alienated the already established fan i played the first dmc , the dreaded 2nd dmc ' the fantastic prequel dmc 3 , and the 4th dmc all the versions of dante feels familiar and recognizeable but when i first start playing this.,
ive wonder and ask myself multiple times is this the 'dante' ive been playing and know before...i dont care about apearrances but the character and the persona of 'dante' here is damn...night n day compared
@@TalkingRaven_ thoose fuckers pissed me off because i had to multitask like crazy in a game without 'lock on' feature how many times i get free hits because my weapon accidently hits another type of color coded demon fuck that shit that sure is a game killer.. to circumvent around that i had to grab and pull the demon to the highest ceiling and start comboing that fucker to death that way i cant be interuppted mid combo for a mistake i didnt intend to make from the start
I still stand by my opinion that if DmC was a new IP, it would've been treated better by the players.
As it is, it's just in the shadow of a series that had 4 installments (now 5), and history that long isn't easily swept away especially when the writing in the reboot is horrendous
If it was a ELSEWORLD story. The same way DC did with Injustice or Marvel did "WHAT IF "series
Man if DmC was it's own thing, that'd be a fucking triumph clap your hands for Ninja game.
The simple fact that it would not be marked as a game that was to kill and replace DMC, would instantly spare it most of the negatively it received.
Yep that's correct. As a new, standalone IP with no ties to DMC, it's really not that bad.
Not to mention Ninja shot themselves in the leg with that "not in a million years" quip.
Directors - "Let's mock the game of the audience we're trying to appeal to. That'll really win them over."
DmC is a good game as a standalone. A great game? If by some miracle we get a sequel in the future (because there is a hardcore fanbase for DmC), I feel like it could become a great game
Despite of what people say I enjoyed dmc. I still replay it especially with the type of music the game has.
As a long time devil may cry fan, it warms my heart to see ppl finally giving DmC the recognition it deserves. its legitimately my fav in the franchise after 3.
Yeah I was surprised too seeing most of the comments are mostly positive towards it
Same it feels good man :')
I love both games, both it’s characters and story were dope. I like how in DMC5 tho; Dante looks to be more refined with his combos than ofc a younger Dante
Сколько уже играю в DmC, каждый раз восхищаюсь, насколько точно передали движения человека. Смотришь и веришь, что парень действительно так бы двигался. Все пошатывания, отводы рук-ног для равновесия и прочее. Одна из немногих игр с драками, где персонаж не просто моделька, которой плевать на анатомию и физику, а живой организм, подвергающейся действию разных сил.
Мне нравится вся серия игр, но эта часть занимает особое место в моём сердечке!
DmC Dante actually look up during a High Time. Also Eryx was definitely modelled after Ifrit from the first game.
Nah, Ifrit was a pair of red hot gauntlets with an armor that looks like a dragon over them which is the part that actually hits and if you look at them you can notice they still give freedom to move the fingers independently, while Eryx are just big red hulk hands with the fingers stuck in place, the only similarity between them is the color pattern.
@@Xx1devilgod1xX That's probably what I was thinking when I wrote that. You notice the effects more than the design itself when you play the game.
@@Xx1devilgod1xX I dad as
I gotta say the sound design and animations of DmC are incredible and hold up well.
This has proved what me and my friend have said for years, DmC: Devil May Cry, is not a bad game. It's a good game let down by some poor enemy design and lame bosses. But the basic combat system is actually really solid.
Also, yeah, Dante in DmC feels like a worse Nero. Still, doesn't make the game bad.
@@devilslayersbane uhhh it's a younger Dante 🤡🤡🤡
The enemies were great, what are you talking about? The couple color coded enemies?
@@theatheistbear3117 they had pretty decent movesets, but their color pallete left a lot to be desired. Except for that one enemy towards the end of the game. That guy was fucking awesome.
@@devilslayersbane The color pallet is incredibly similar to the other games. Do you mean their aesthetics? Because as a whole they look very good.
With Nero regaining his right arm in DMC5, perhaps they will look into some of these DmC animations and repurpose them for Nero. You've seen what Nero can do with Red Queen with one arm, but what if he used them both? Also note that DmC Dante seems to be left-handed. Likely ambidextrous, but I believe that will translate over to Nero. Plus, neither of them has proper balance in their strikes.
I honestly would love to see Nero getting new weapons to use.
*facepalm* they can't reuse DmC animations because DmC already reused them from DMC4. For example grapling, rebellion death coil, charge shot and roulette spin are all copied from Nero's
@@danguy6591 Grappling is a borrowed mechanic, not animation. Death Coil is completely different from any of Nero's attacks. I believe you're talking about Combo C, but you'd be wrong. Just because a character is doing multiple spins, doesn't mean it's a borrowed animation.
How would they reuse something they don't have? DmC was developed by a different studio and they have all of the assets for it.
Recreate maybe but not repurpose
@@dog_catcher3496 the same way they're still using DmC Vergil's aerial rave for DMC5 Vergil.
Donte's DmC has probably the best traversal of any dmc games, combined with an outstanding art direction. The soundtrack matched really well with the combat and with rebooted Dante. It was shallow enough for me to have fun with it, being my first dmc game ever played, while having some complexity within its combos that kept me interested. That linked delayed-combo between weapons thing was sensational aswell. The only real things that bothered me were Donte being way too annoying at the beginning and the plot being lazy.
Yeah, combat wise, I enjoyed DmC's one over DMC4, at least the Nero part, I hate the Exceed and EX-act mechanic.
@@lordrald09 I'm totally your opposite, I liked hitting those perfect exceed hits, giving newer attacks more damage to his combos so it keeps changing the combo variation route so yhe combat doesn't get boring. It was annoying at first but boy once I perfected Nero's Red Queen 🌹It was Total fun.
@@lordrald09 you probably hate it because you never mastered it.
Couldn't described better. I agree with you 100%.
*donte*
The freaking overdrive camera tilt in DmC is too good man, also the announcer is perfect
Love how devil trigger in dmc changes the environment. Also, since his hair turns white, maybe dante and vergil in the og series used to have other hair colors before unlocking more of their demonic power. I know that‘s not true, but to would be kinda cool.
Y'know, it's honestly refreshing to see a DmC comparison video and NOT have the comments bashing it constantly. Sure it deserves it's criticism but it's nice to see it having it's time in the light
Something about a sloppy character who just throws around their power is oddly badass to me, really makes me wish the characterization in the story for dante was as good as the personality in his animations
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Honestly I need donte dmc series to continue parallely along with the original timeline and be known as dmc neo
How cool it will be
When it comes to moves that they made themselves and had their own unique animations for, Reboot Dante has some legitimately cool looking moves. But every move that they tried to "recreate" from the original honestly just looks pathetic in comparison.
In comparison with dmc 5? There is 6 year period between this games. And in comparison reboot is an European version, and original dmc’s are Japanese. Really I wish that there would be second part of reboot. There is a new Dante, new Virgil, where they had the same idea, but different ways of solving. And they fight because of this reason, not just sibling wars
@@ЛеонидБушуев-ч8р There are some animations I like better in the Reboot, and I've always felt the visual impact of your sword slashes was better in the Reboot, so that 6 year argument doesn't really stand. This isn't about graphics, it's about animation flare. Also the ending to this game was fucking terrible. The whole fight between them was a cheap and poorly planned way to try and please OG fans by having some kind of rivalry between them. You should honestly just abandon all hope for a sequel. It ain't happenin' lmao
Air hike, dt, raining force, drive, rebellion combos, rainstorm, high time, fucking stinger! I think out of all these, helm breaker looked the most natural
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 I actually liked the normal Rebellion combos. They were animated well. Every move they recreate, like stinger, looks awful.
@@ЛеонидБушуев-ч8р But you fail to realize that DMC4 a game released in 2008 has way better gameplay mechanics and runs a lot better than the reboot which was released in 2013 lmao.
Am I the only one here who actually loved DmC Devil May Cry? Sure I've also played DmC5 but I never hated DmC Devil May Cry.
All I'll say is if you loved DmC that much, you'll love 5 even more. You should definitely give it a go.
I honestly loved DmC too, and I’m the biggest DMC fanboy there is.
@@drjcup3228 It is just me, if the characaters and actors give more impact in executing the script, it can even rival the original series and can be accepted by dmc fans aswell. Just.. like that one scene where "Virgil" got sucked by "Mondas" and "Donte" just straight up, -ah-
@@MrNiceGuyPh Lmao that part cracked me up too. It's my first introduction to the DMC franchise so I have no expectations but some of the lines just have no impact. Still liked the game though even with it's flaws.
@@kin4386 As I have mentioned in my comment, I ALREADY played DmC5 too. I love it. But it didn't make me hate DmC DmC
Can we just agree that angel boost is clearly the superior looking air dash
not looking, but ability in general. DmC had actual platforming, real DMC games have shit platform
@@valentds Yeap and DMC5 didnt even try good for them they knew they couldnt handle it.
@@valentds you probably died on the spiked ceiling level in 4, didn’t you
Aerial movement in the mainline series is too comital to do platforming well. DMC 5 has a bit of Aerial control but not enough for platforming. Probably like this because of the combat system
@@arispetropoulos5237 It was for the best if they were not going to give waay more Aerial control
I played both of them and still hope DmC has part 2. A younger Dante with anger and no care
The DmC effects looks "cool" because its not to be a realistic graphic like the RE engine, its the same thing with DMC4 that have strong and "anime" effects, the level design of DmC is also great but I prefer the dark visual of the original franchise.
Agreed
Now while a lot of people hated DMC, you gotta appreciate how incredible the artwork is and how they viewed a younger Dante and Vergil and the extra mile they took to make younger Dante just a novice in terms of certain aspects and how they depicted a younger Vergil
I didn’t know why people even hated it for a long time, it was my favorite game for a while
@@-JaggedGrace- I think they hate it because of how Dante looked, not to mention I think a lot of people didn't like the new girl for some reason when I thought she was an interesting character, I honestly really like how they handled the ending as well and how the brothers ended up being such enemies to one another
Mikell Rogers It's because no one wanted a reboot at all, especially not a western one considering that every series that did that flopped in that era. DMC4 being lacking in content and not mechanics made the reaction to getting an easier game with simplified combat even worse that, let alone it being the first game to run at 30fps on consoles. The back and fourth between the fans and devs only made it worse it.
@@-JaggedGrace- Probably because the director was a piece of shit that was constantly picking a fight with the community and prattling on about how that Dante is the new thing and that OG Dante was a gay cowboy?
reboot dante just looks like a random teenager putting on his dad's trench coat, getting some random stick, and then trying to replicate dante's moves
The DmC Dante fights like he's giving his everything in each strike to compensate the lack of skill. He's rough and hot-headed. The DMC 5 Dante on the other hand, spends less strength and his hits are more precise. Which isn't surprising at all because he has been fighting demons for like decades. Of course he understood that technique is better than raw strength.
DmC is almost 10 years old running on Unreal Engine 3. To look on par or even better than a PS5 game is insane.
One thing I loved about DmC is how they intergrated the styles into one control layout. It was so smooth. Unfortunately the biggest issue I had with the combat is that they didn't have more moves.
It was also dissapointing as good as the story was they didn't go deeper into it. The game was outstanding.
The Devil Trigger in DmC is beautiful. Literally Super Saiyan vibes and direct homage to OG Dante. White hair, blood red coat and the howling voices in the background 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥⚡️
Never really noticed but DmC Dante uses his left hand more than the regular DMC Dante which all combos start and end with his right hand.
And also the fact and feel that DMC V Dante is less dynamic, that’s cuz compared to DmC, he is older and more experienced and thus less unnecessary movements and more precise ones. Super cool!
Just look at how beautiful DmC looks. The colors do so much. I wish they didn't have DMC 5 so bare.
As a long time DMC fan, I can safely say that although I didn't like the rebooted story and design of the characters, the gameplay and world in DmC were great. It even had a more dynamic feel to it than DMC5 had which I was slightly disappointed to see. I'm glad it's back to the original cast though.
One of my favorite things about DMC5 is the fact that Dante actually feels like he's aging.
Instead of just pushing it to the background and ignoring it, DMC5 Dante genuinely looks and acts like a 40-odd year old man. It's a big contrast with the teenage Dante we got back in 3.
I hope that the designers are confident enough to let Dante and Vergil keep their relatively realistic aging. I need to know what a game staring octogenarian Dante looks like.
lol you’re absolutely joking. DMC 5 takes the cake as the best dmc game with almost no disappointments. Keep living in nostalgia
@@kelvinzaragoza6349 Did I ever say DmC was better than DMC5 as a whole???
@@kelvinzaragoza6349 you're biased
Really wished this game was a new IP because I honestly loved its gameplay style as well as the cinematic platforming and it would have been great to add more action oriented games to the competitive scene. Rather than just wait for another DMC6 or Bayonetta 4 for the next 10 years or so. Could have taken the Nephilims, Angels and Demons again but with different characters and make its a children of 6 or something.
I know, right? If they changed the names of all the characters and claimed it was merely inspired by DMC, they would’ve had an entirely new series to work with! And the DMC fans that hated the reboot probably would’ve *liked* it, because it wouldn’t feel like Ninja Theory was mocking them.
Instead, we get Lady and Trish dismissed as “strippers with guns,” a Dante that smokes and knows what sex is, the writers tying to convince us that their skill is “Shakespearean” (though that one’s mostly just funny), and what’shisface outright stating that he didn’t give a shit about longtime fans of the series.
As I've commented elsewhere, I thought DmC was good, but when you're carrying the name of a legendary IP that effectively created the Character Action genre, 'good' isn't going to cut it.
And yeah, every time Tameem Antoniades ran his mouth, he just hurt the game more. A real shame, because the team deserved props for the game's absolutely stellar art direction if nothing else.
DMC5はザ・ゲームキャラって感じのスタイリッシュでキレのある動き。
DmCはより人間らしいリアルな動き。
そこはやはり日本産と海外産の違いを感じるね。
個人的にDmCダンテのドライブの終わりの構えが好き。
Looking at DmC Dante made me think of DMC4 Nero. Like what everyone else said, he moves more like a novice. I know it’s stylish but a lot of DmC Dante’s moves leaves him wide open for a hit. Good vid.
DmC was a game i really liked very much,the story was quite generic but the enviornment,level design....the bioshock esque world...along with so many vibrant colour palettes made it stand out....i enjoyed it
the camera work for the overdrive in dmc is actually pretty cool
I have been waiting for this video 😘🤗😎 dmc 2013 vs dmc 5
Dmc is a great game, I hope we get to see a part 2 one day.
Seeing a lot of misinformed comments about why people hated/didn't like DmC so let me clear this up from a technical and fan perspective. I will mainly talk about the vanilla version the definitive hardly matters cause damage was done even if it corrected a lot of problems (not all.)
Combat is clunky despite animation being nice, and didn't offer much in terms of it's flexibility. Something casual players will overlook, but the difference is there if you were to advidly compate the two back to back while playing. It suffered from a lack of staples the series is known for: No lock on, two dodge buttons was pointless, NO TAUNT, forced weapon use for certain types of enemies, generic CW type plot that tried too hard to push an edgy narrative without much substance to it, and overall while the art style is nice and talent is there, it doesn't speak to anything of what the series pulls in. (Bright, splotchy colors aren't exactly something the brother of a RE game is meant to have. )
A lot of people think fans hated it for how he looks, but that's only a small portion of what went down. Donte used to look MUCH worse, in the very first trailer. He had an ugly face, white patch of hair in the back, smoked, and overall looked like a strung out druggie. His look improved, despite the grievances of him being so offputtingly different from the original, but fine. People got over it.
The PR was combative against fans, the lead dev was a huge egotistical dick who fought with fans on twitter, and they constantly mocked the old one while shilling theirs. Not how to win an audience. They showed constant lack of understanding of the series, changing up what it was. "It's a reboot" "It's a re-imagining" "It's an au" and eventually, "It's an au" was what they went for, but not after several months of pittering back and forth.
That, and the gameplay while competent isn't flavorful. You can have a well functioning game all day, but I found myself playing this only twice in completion (which is bad considering I have played every other title multiple multiple times. Hell even DMC2 has more playtime than this, but that's a younger me not knowing any better).
Adding elements like platforming that really wasn't even platforming since it spoonfed you the actions made the game slow and the pacing uninteresting. The plus side to this is that the animation of the world 'being alive' was a nicely added touch.
Last but not least, the gaming journos were the nail in the coffin. They added to the overall shitting on the original games, shitting on the fans for 'letting it fail', and constantly tried to one up why it's better than the other, and why people should buy it. It was weird. Considering they barely did this with other games at the time, yet were hyperfixated on this, making it seem like they were being paid to shill this game like it had no issues.
Overall, please stop saying 'it got undeserved hate' or 'idk why people hated it'
THERES YOUR REASONS.
(ps. stop calling the reboot 'DMC' that's for the og series the reboot is 'DmC' )
I found DmC to be outstanding. Still revisit the game often
the sounds, animations, and camera effects of DmC are so much more punchy and give better sense of badassery to the player. DMC5 forces you to play like a badass but it didn't do a great job of making me feel like one
DmC had all those little things that made it so much more fun
DmC Donte’s moveset, especially when compared to DMC5 Dante’s, tells a lot about his character which is one thing I can appreciate about the reboot. You can see that his movement is more violent and packs a punch with the dynamic camera but is quite rough around the edges signifying his hot-blooded and violent nature.
Compare this to Dante’s stylish yet refined movement that only has a few attacks emphasizing impact then you can see that Donte is strong but still lacking and crude unlike Dante who has so much experience that he simply plays with and styles on demons instead which shows his wacky woohoo pizza man side while still being the legendary demon hunter that he is with how polished his movements are.
dmc is underrated, wish they make a successor to that games gameplay
it's curious how ninja theory made so much fun of the main series, and yet did everything in their power to make it as close to the original as possible
Originally they wanted to make something similar to the original series, but capcom told them to go nuts and different
@@julianpradarodriguez7336 was it capcom who ordered them to call og dante gay cowboy?
Actually, Capcom is the one that did that. They push the idea of it being a lot more different than the original franchise, while NT wanted to a more closer rendition to that of the original. Check out their early concept art works and we can agree that if they didn't push the devs in NT to go so far, but still add their original twist on things.
@@shadowentertainment9975 so you telling me that NT calling dante a gay cowboy was capcom's idea?
@@samuelsalvatore4511 nope, not even by a mile. I like the game, but that doesn't mean that I'm not unaware on what the dev said about Dante. Nor the heavy controversies that the game had produced during its release, or even the flaws that the game has too.
I always found the combat from DmC weirdly satisfying, especially with Rebellion and shooting Ebony and Ivory. I just like how I can see the bullet streaks the guns make.
I love how 'improper' reboot Dante is. The way he stumbles and waves his body around really gives me Nero vibes, which likely isn't a coincidence. Also love the game's art direction, even if it can get kinda samey. I say this as if 5's missions aren't all just blues and greys plastered everywhere lol
You can tell the animation team weren't slacking on this Ninja Theory DmC, only the story guys were
mは良い意味で動きが軽いな
5は本家本元故全体的に洗練されてる
If DmC: Devil May Cry wasn't a DMC game, it probably would've done pretty well. Like, instead of being a reboot, they developed it into its own IP inspired by the Devil May Cry games. Granted the writing is incredibly rough and needs a total rework, it would've probably done better as a standalone series.
Still you can't deny some of DmC feature was ported to DMC5 and make that game better
DmC gameplay is not trash (outside the blue/red thing). it actually had good platforming
But you can't also deny some other DmC features that was ported made it worse.
1. The prerequisite of Summoned Sword for Vergil's Air Trick.
2. The missing of follow-up downward slash from Upper Slash.
I don't understand why they decided to ported those.
Please continue these content, good
I like DmC character animation
I love how DmC Dante dt is just Dante from the earlier dmc games
Growing up is understanding that DmC was actually a well developed game that probably didn't deserve all the hate
Ah, yes colorcoded enemies, no taunt and 2 dedicated dodge buttons are indeed signs of well developed game...
Growing up is realizing that just because you like something doesn't mean its good.
@@spardathedevil7956If the color coded enemies are a problem that’s a literal skill issue.
And you know that you can remap buttons, right? And before you say anything about the button layout not being “optimal”, keep in mind people switch Vergil’s Summoned swords from X to RB and do the same for the jump button for JCing.
Love em both. I'm hoping this causes people to look at DmC as its own thing from here on out.
Not gonna lie, DmC is one of my favorite from the series. And even if it makes no sense, I like to consider it as the prequel to the main Devil May Cry series.
It would be great to see a crossover of this two versions of Dante in one game
Played the game last week out of curiosity and to my surprise, the game is actually great! The gameplay, combat, artstyle, and the music are awesome.
I didn't expect much about the characters and the storyline coz I've been well informed about it, but it's actually not that awful.
I would love to play more of something like DmC, maybe a sequel or a remake of a reboot (?)
This game got a lot of hate becausw "fans" want change but dont want any change at all. They dont know what they want.
Tho i admit that a reboot didnt feel like it was needed and some story decisions were odd, but still decent.
Anyways people hated nero in dmc4 but they hated dante in dmc so much they liked dmc5 having nero and all back again
@@thedeegeesaga its always like this with games that have a large fanbase,but personnally i liked DmC ,change is good sometimes, i liked the difference,doesn't mean it's better than the original one,but it was good,i would love to see a sequel for it.
@@tarekbouznad2332 same
@@thedeegeesaga A reboot. They need to rewrite the storyline. Anything else seems good enough to me
That's because it's a great game and the storyline is fine as is. The DMC fanboys just have to keep knocking it down to prop up DMC because deep down they know DmC is better or they're just mad about the Mop Joke and can't let it go
When you now look back and try to understand why there was great negatively towards the reboot, you have to understand that it's not the quality of the product that was at fault.
You can find fluent animations and generally fun gameplay. What was the problem was that it wasn't the original, but was in the position to replace it as the new DMC.
You could not see it as an alternative game that you can just play alongside the original, as there was to be no more original. Everyone back then was forced to hold onto this reboot, and feel extra sad about anything from the original that was absent from the reboot.
So when everyone now comes back after the original got a sequel, the context is completely different.
exactly,i think if the original dmc never came out and had directly DmC as the main one,it would have had the same success as the original one has now,it's a pretty solid storyline and a good game,its just not original,but its a good game to play
名倉は音が軽いけど、ドライブとかラウンドトリップとかは本家より使いやすいから好き
Dante’s DmC counter part performs combos and attacks like he’s high or something
Speaking of which the Dmc3 version didn’t perform such things even though the Dmc3 variant and the DmC one are at a similar age
It's called realism, Swords are heavy, you know? The original Dante holds the sword like a pillow
I absolutely love both games. I hope they actually make a sequel to dmc reboot.
Good comparation,I liked
Hot damn the DmC animations where satisfying as hell
Tbh I'm hoping for DmC 2. Would love for the mainline and reboot to co exist , I mean super hero movies do it all the time
I had only played DMC3 and 4 when DmC was announced, I wasn't really super attached to the characters since I hadn't really played those games for a lot of hours. so I was really hyped for DmC as a twelve-year-old lol, although a bit dissatisfied with the character reworks. but still, I found the design, the animation, and the whole aesthetics of the game incredible. I LOVED it, and played it for hundreds of hours on Xbox and later on PC. it was kinda my first time REALLY getting into the series. I love DMC5 too, but DmC has a special place in my heart, so I kinda wish it gets a sequel. it would be awesome to have both series.
I still remember the hate DmC got because a bunch of fanboys weren't getting to play as OG Dante. The game wasn't perfect but to this day probably has the best level design and visual direction than any of the Capcom produced DMC games.
*pukes*
I assume you’re speaking from nostalgia? Because the level design was absolute garbage. Ffs, even DMC2 had better level design, and that was arguably the worst in the franchise, including DmC
@@justsomenumptyBad take but okay.
DmC plays so much smoother man
Honestly I like both of them the games fun as hell lol
Game was good but problem was mostly the characters were very unlikely. Sure old Dante can bit of jerk sometimes but at least not dick way. Dmc Dante other hand come out of more asshole and dick. Ninja Theory miss point of Dante character.
@@snknero9935
Bro, it's a reboot, everything is different.
@@galactic-shithead390 Okay yes reboot will be different from original. But at same time keep some roots from original. Look what happened Netflix Death Note trying so hard be different from original story. Story end up being garbage and ruin characters. They turn Light into simp bitch.
One thing DmC got right was it's animation.
Even so, I prefer the other, because it's less bouncy and feels like the attacks are truly impacting the enemy, rather than just passing through them.
DmC’s Hud felt different compared to DMC 5’s
I just noticed
Danta from DmC is left handed
Where, Danta from devil may cry original series right handed
DmC would probably become a huge success if it's name not DmC
Thumbnail is underselling DMC over DMC 5
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Omg look at left dante. He's literally just moving his sword a little instead of actually making stab motions.
I know right, it feel like he's poking with a stick instead of stabbing with a real sword lol.
Well in reality it’d be too fast for us to see
The only reason DmC is not on top of the series list is because of its depart from the main story line. For me it's still my fav
One thing I like about the DmC series is the announcer. I love how he says Savage, Sadistic and Sensational. I felt that power missing in DMC5.
Are you deaf?
DMC was my favorite mécanisme so far
Nothing like it
Hope they made the next one like it
DmC Dante is a cool character. He is just a different kind of cool of OG Dante..
Honestly, the only thing I can say negatively about Devil May Cry 5 is the distinct lack of any vibrant colors.
Game is fun, but the areas started to blend together since nothing popped out and everything was grey or just washed out in color. Not to mention a lot of places looked almost too similar.
Meanwhile, DmC has enough color differences for me to be interested in where Dante is at while things also pop out at me more.
Hmm
DMC 5 IS DMC 5
DmC have no comparison with it
But overall
Its good!!
man i actually wish dmc 5 adapted more of dmc’s combat ninja theory is pretty great at making fluid hack and slash games
there's a lot of nuance and polish in DmC that doesn't get enough credit. like how combos have signals that communicate different timings for starting different combos, expressed as a glare of light on your blade (etc.), which also just add to the overall flair and style. the moves have a lot more focus on color and keeping a consistent set of colors for different actions, not only as a stylistic choice but also as a indirect way of conveying information. it even ties in with the gameplay with some enemies requiring matching colors of attacks and weapons to match with their enemy's color variant. it's an amazing cohesion between a bunch of different elements, style, design and mechanics that function after the same set of rules, coming together to create one harmonious experience. this exaggerated use of color, reminding me of mirror's edge, also adds to readability and contributes to DmC being so accesible to new players. the visiual element is very deliberately crafted to cater to the gameplay element, in a more hyperbolic way. the overly colorful and stylistic enviroments and enemies actually contribute to the action very deliberately and aren't just placed there because the artists thought they were cool.
a lot of animations don't just have a lot of attention in their actual active frames but in the *recovery* which is really undervalued as a means of illustrating weight and power behind an attack. after you unleash a move the motion of your attack carries forward through his body, reeling from the attack as he resets back to neutral. often in a really exaggerated way. in fact all the moves in DmC are really hyperbolic and exaggerated, it's as if they're really trying to highlight the key frames of motion like in a fighting game such as tekken. again, adding to readability. DmC seems to really stress accessibility for new players without making veteran fans feel unwelcome, which they absolutely succeeded in (even if style points are inflated and too easy to get).
DmC doesn't get enough credit and recognition within the franchise imo, ppl tend to forget it was a thing, it is more of a spin-off that went in a new direction so i understand why people view it somewhat seperately from the rest of the entries in the series. but DmC absolutely deserves the same respect and love as the other games. a more cartoonish, stylistic and exaggerated style that really flows with the arcadey nature of the game, in contrast to the main series more realistic and dark visuals, DmC is extremely colorful in *everything.* this style and this gameplay could not have been accomplished without the other, i'm glad it tried to be different. even if it's drenched in angsty teenage edgelord vibes.
DmC is one of the finest animation game at that time, and peoples still act that they’re not satisfied
Lets take a sec to recognize and appreciate how risky but great the reboot was. Its not our dante with all the exagerations we know and love. But the game really worked out and shined in most points. Great game. But im happy they returned back to OGs
But it's the last time we gonna see OG dante and Vergil
@@gamesgameplay753 wut?
@@enyelcalato891 yeah DMC V is the last game dante and Vergil we all love appear in it
Story might continue from nero now or they will reboot it
@@gamesgameplay753 really? source?
Still think DmC is one of the best if not THE best DMC game I’ve ever played. DMC3 was also my favorite to play, 5 was really nothing special, I played it, but it never had the replay value DmC did for me. Wish there was a sequel but “fAnS”
as i've always said: DmC can be a good game if you just warp your thoughts and erase the knowledge that the main character is "Dante" and "Vergil" is the antagonist
Seriously, if they would've been called "Juan and Carlos" nobody would mind, it can be a good a game, the problem lies on trying to sell it as "Devil May Cry"
Yeah I agree. Though it could've been a "great" game if they never made the color coded enemies.
Game would still suffer from terrible characters and story, but at least nobody would be comparing them to the ogs.
@@sebastiancintron29 Who need story and good characters when you have godly gameplay and it´s really fun to play
@@kenshinhimura6280 well Devil May Cry 3,4 and 5 are that and with good stories and characters. That basically makes DmC that much of an embarrassment.
By that kind of mindset, many people would critisism it because
"This game is dmc ripoff" LOL
growing up is realizing that DmC was kinda of a good game