I recently purchased a Panasonic Avccam AG-AF101E cinema camera and discovered that a lot of professional cinematographers were using old defunct Canon FD lenses mainly the ones with not only wide apertures like f1.2 and f1.4 but with the older lens coatings that contain a radioactive substance. These old lenses as exotic as they are but confined to collectors are now so sort after that the prices as astronomical. These lenses can also be professionally rehoused with any mount and click stops removed. Great channel and lots of useful information. Thanks and God bless you.
The price is what the market will bear. The cost determines the point at which it no longer is a business proposition. We are privileged to have access to astonishing lenses and willing to pay a premium for it and manufacturers are willing to do this for money. That is what makes some lenses so expensive
The reason why lenses are expensive is purely because Camera brands can charge them ! . Traditionally camera brands marketed multiple tiers of lenses for different user. Variable aperture zooms and slower apertures for beginners at dirt cheap rates , while fast apertures f1.4 and constant aperture zooms for enthusiasts at double or even quadruple the price. But right now you can see how companies like len manufacturer from japan sigma and tamron and Chinese manufacturers like viltrox, loawa , Ttartisans and yongnuo are making pro lenses at half if not 1/3 the price of first party lenses while accomplishing 90% of results . In most cases these lenses are limited by software barriers or not providing direct optimization by camera manufacturers . Imo this gate keeping of innovation to just pro line lenses have essentially marked the graves of so called traditional camera brands . Consumers day by day are being hesitant to buying a traditional cameras due to the exorbitant prices of the body and lenses ! While companies like apple and dji are getting more customers for providing more value for less !
Despite all that has been said in this video, prices are really exaggerated. Chinese manufacturers produce high-quality lenses at a fraction of the price of their Japanese and German counterparts!
It’s possible, but you need a route outside of taking pretty pictures. Maybe start with photojournalism, and then take every chance you have to shoot wildlife. Anything you want is possible if you brainstorm it enough and think of what market you expertise requires
Viltrox new relases with the same build and image quality have exposed all of them.....greedy camera manufacturers. Viltrox Pro lens is 1/5 of the price of these lenses.
Price tag is a marketing tool. That's it. All the metal and electronics in a lens doesn't cost that much. That's not gold or something to add that much. Some lens have unique optic elements hard to produce especially big ones but not correlated to current price tags. The truth is that nobody buys that lens now. So they have to keep prices high to get revenues.
@@Tutoelectro1 nobody knows, but for some reason Canon price is much higher than Sony and sigma for the same class of glass. No way dev cost is that different compared to greedy sales dept)
It's not the metal and electronics that cost a lot, it's the glass. Technical glass itself costs around 1000 dollars a kilogram raw, then spend weeks polishing it, treating it, coating it, assembling it, and testing it, and you end up with a really expensive piece of equipment. There's a reason technical optical equipment (glasses, microscopes, laser lenses, fresnel lenses, aircraft lights, reflectors, telescopes) is so freaking expensive.
@@vasiliychernomorov1115 while I think sony lenses are more well rounded as a product compared to canon ones especially with the recent GM2 lenses, the actual price difference is around 10% for the equivalent L lens vs GM lens
@@Tutoelectro1 r&d wouldn't be that high tho . Most technologies for lens element manufacturing have made highly efficient and a good amount of Sony lens are rehoused lens designs by Minolta from early 90s ! . It's just profits and price for the " brand" . Sigma makes similars lens that too in japan yet it's still cheaper than any camera manufacturer .
you don't know favorite sales pitch? company-we are offering our product to willing buyer in plane language-when number of idiots paying those prices decrease prices fall if it grows prices rise
Slap the name on Leica, claim that it is the craftsmanship, and that some poor person is hand assembling them is such bunk. Cameras today are assembled like cars, from parts from many sources. It's a shame that people put a premium on Leica, CLAIMING things like craftsmanship, top-notch screws, put together by a person sitting at an assembly desk is something special. I look at my Sony A7R3 and A7CR and see that it is made of exotic material, magnesium, all seams lineup perfectly, it is weather sealed, feels solid, has not rattles, etc. If one was to put on the Leica label, one can charge 3 times what it would normally be with the Sony name. Please, research where the parts come from, get pictures or videos of the assembly line, and tell me that the Leica with a Sony sensor is something special. It's all vanity today. There are many interesting stories about cameras, one being that Tamron makes some Nikon lenses. Chinese companies are producing a wide range of inexpensive glass to the relief of photographers. Most of what we experience in YT tidat is an assembly line of shills pouring out nonsense.
You dont need those overpriced new lenses. Buy old lenses adapt lenses. Those are geard to the same rubes that buy apple the ones that think the best most expensive will make them the best. It wont. Buy a lens and shoot.
that is more and more difficult,even Nikon changed mount and every year it is less possible to adapt old lenses if you are happy with manual lenses that is fine but people mostly want today video capability
Old manual lenses is a can of worms that most shouldn't open. Your best bet on adapting old glass is to take popular Canon EF L glass and adapt it with a Sigma adapter.
@@maggnet4829 EF to R and old lenses are amazing sharp if you can manually focus what are doing with a camera. Grab a old Konica hex 1.7 it's beautiful and 50 bucks.
I recently purchased a Panasonic Avccam AG-AF101E cinema camera and discovered that a lot of professional cinematographers were using old defunct Canon FD lenses mainly the ones with not only wide apertures like f1.2 and f1.4 but with the older lens coatings that contain a radioactive substance.
These old lenses as exotic as they are but confined to collectors are now so sort after that the prices as astronomical.
These lenses can also be professionally rehoused with any mount and click stops removed.
Great channel and lots of useful information.
Thanks and God bless you.
The price is what the market will bear. The cost determines the point at which it no longer is a business proposition. We are privileged to have access to astonishing lenses and willing to pay a premium for it and manufacturers are willing to do this for money. That is what makes some lenses so expensive
The reason why lenses are expensive is purely because Camera brands can charge them ! .
Traditionally camera brands marketed multiple tiers of lenses for different user. Variable aperture zooms and slower apertures for beginners at dirt cheap rates , while fast apertures f1.4 and constant aperture zooms for enthusiasts at double or even quadruple the price.
But right now you can see how companies like len manufacturer from japan sigma and tamron and Chinese manufacturers like viltrox, loawa , Ttartisans and yongnuo are making pro lenses at half if not 1/3 the price of first party lenses while accomplishing 90% of results . In most cases these lenses are limited by software barriers or not providing direct optimization by camera manufacturers .
Imo this gate keeping of innovation to just pro line lenses have essentially marked the graves of so called traditional camera brands . Consumers day by day are being hesitant to buying a traditional cameras due to the exorbitant prices of the body and lenses ! While companies like apple and dji are getting more customers for providing more value for less !
Despite all that has been said in this video, prices are really exaggerated. Chinese manufacturers produce high-quality lenses at a fraction of the price of their Japanese and German counterparts!
It's unfortunate that hobbyists can't afford these since being a "pro" wildlife photographer is next to impossible.
It’s possible, but you need a route outside of taking pretty pictures. Maybe start with photojournalism, and then take every chance you have to shoot wildlife. Anything you want is possible if you brainstorm it enough and think of what market you expertise requires
Actually hobbyists are the ones that buy. Pros usually uses their gears to the maximum, most of times their gears are somewhat outdated.
Ah yes that metal alloy and rubber gromit add a few thousand don’t they
Thanks a lot for this video!!!!
Viltrox new relases with the same build and image quality have exposed all of them.....greedy camera manufacturers. Viltrox Pro lens is 1/5 of the price of these lenses.
Price tag is a marketing tool. That's it. All the metal and electronics in a lens doesn't cost that much. That's not gold or something to add that much. Some lens have unique optic elements hard to produce especially big ones but not correlated to current price tags. The truth is that nobody buys that lens now. So they have to keep prices high to get revenues.
What about investment in new development? I work at Sony and I can tell you that is one of the biggest costs.
@@Tutoelectro1 nobody knows, but for some reason Canon price is much higher than Sony and sigma for the same class of glass. No way dev cost is that different compared to greedy sales dept)
It's not the metal and electronics that cost a lot, it's the glass. Technical glass itself costs around 1000 dollars a kilogram raw, then spend weeks polishing it, treating it, coating it, assembling it, and testing it, and you end up with a really expensive piece of equipment.
There's a reason technical optical equipment (glasses, microscopes, laser lenses, fresnel lenses, aircraft lights, reflectors, telescopes) is so freaking expensive.
@@vasiliychernomorov1115 while I think sony lenses are more well rounded as a product compared to canon ones especially with the recent GM2 lenses, the actual price difference is around 10% for the equivalent L lens vs GM lens
@@Tutoelectro1 r&d wouldn't be that high tho . Most technologies for lens element manufacturing have made highly efficient and a good amount of Sony lens are rehoused lens designs by Minolta from early 90s ! . It's just profits and price for the " brand" . Sigma makes similars lens that too in japan yet it's still cheaper than any camera manufacturer .
Excellent !
you don't know favorite sales pitch?
company-we are offering our product to willing buyer
in plane language-when number of idiots paying those prices decrease prices fall if it grows prices rise
Slap the name on Leica, claim that it is the craftsmanship, and that some poor person is hand assembling them is such bunk. Cameras today are assembled like cars, from parts from many sources. It's a shame that people put a premium on Leica, CLAIMING things like craftsmanship, top-notch screws, put together by a person sitting at an assembly desk is something special. I look at my Sony A7R3 and A7CR and see that it is made of exotic material, magnesium, all seams lineup perfectly, it is weather sealed, feels solid, has not rattles, etc. If one was to put on the Leica label, one can charge 3 times what it would normally be with the Sony name. Please, research where the parts come from, get pictures or videos of the assembly line, and tell me that the Leica with a Sony sensor is something special. It's all vanity today.
There are many interesting stories about cameras, one being that Tamron makes some Nikon lenses. Chinese companies are producing a wide range of inexpensive glass to the relief of photographers.
Most of what we experience in YT tidat is an assembly line of shills pouring out nonsense.
Because they are not made in China
You dont need those overpriced new lenses. Buy old lenses adapt lenses. Those are geard to the same rubes that buy apple the ones that think the best most expensive will make them the best. It wont. Buy a lens and shoot.
that is more and more difficult,even Nikon changed mount and every year it is less possible to adapt old lenses
if you are happy with manual lenses that is fine but people mostly want today video capability
Old manual lenses is a can of worms that most shouldn't open. Your best bet on adapting old glass is to take popular Canon EF L glass and adapt it with a Sigma adapter.
@@maggnet4829 EF to R and old lenses are amazing sharp if you can manually focus what are doing with a camera. Grab a old Konica hex 1.7 it's beautiful and 50 bucks.
@@danieleverywhere132 Don't justify over paying m8.