Serious question - Have years of advertising on videos by s#%t mobile games ruined YT game sponsorships? Crossout looks super cool, and I respect TIFO, but seeing a game advertise with a channel actually makes me more uncertain about trying it.
Andrew Wilson it’s a massive grind fest if you don’t spend money, the best weapons in the game (relics) are pretty much impossible to get for a casual player without a clan unless you’re prepared to pay the price of a few AAA games for a SINGLE relic weapon. All the devs do is sell packs and updates are mostly underwhelming and slow. The game is fun but you’ll quickly stop having fun when you start getting matched with sealclubbers, and there are a lot of them.
Theodore Roosevelt did not get the CMOH until the George W Bush administration. His actions warranted it at the time, but he was turned down. Later when he became President, he made the requirement for being awarded the CMOH to be above his actions in combat.
The tradition in the Australian Armed Services is to salute the VC winner whenever. It is awarded by the Governor General and the Chief of the Armed Services offers the first salute. It is his privilege to do so.
Perhaps you should find out why it is that these "Medals of Honor" are inverted pentagrams? I bet you wouldn't be allowed to air that episode, or if you did, your channel would be shutdown. ;)
There's a Marine that received the Medal Of Honor after throwing his helmet over a grenade in Iraq and laying on the helmet to take the brunt of the explosion. He died but his name lives on because he has a Arleigh Burke class destroyer named after him. The USS Jason Dunham. When the ship was launched his mom was given the honor of breaking the bottle of champagne across the bow.
@@danielfronc4304 As far as I know, Helmets are not really designed to contain the pressure of an explosion. They are designed to protect the head from shrapnel or debris, but if the explosion is too close, shrapnel can still get through. Also most helmets are not bullet proof. Now, with a helmet used by bomb squads, I guess you could survive a grenade to the face. But they are far too heavy for regular use on the battlefield. You gotta consider the weight as well. Iirc that story about WW1 right... Helmets were almost pulled back again short after introduction. Because the statistics showed that since the introduction, far more soldiers were wounded in the head. But what was not in the statistics was that these soldiers would be dead without the helmets. I think I even heard that story here on tifo, some time ago. But I am not sure.
@@danielfronc4304 Dude. The helmet, along with OTV, are designed to absorb 'most' of the energy from shrapnel or small caliber bullets. The blast of the frag grenade can, and most likely will, break the helmet By your logic it's like having a fire extinguisher, it reduce the chance of people being burn to death, but also increase the rate of people getting burnt wounds. Does that mean the fire extinguisher not worth to buy? No.
People don't start wars, governments do. The Bible tells believers to beware "powers and principalities" that are doing evil. I believe the reason is any man made organization that lasts longer than the life of an average man always goes corrupt. As a peaceful man I often wonder why countries go to war and sacrifice their citizens in acts of barbaric hate. A larger question is why do the soldiers doing the dying fail to question the authority or the morality of the conflict they've been thrown into. With all the facts about the evil nature of the United States government (vaporizing Japanese innocent civilians with the atomic bomb or conducting disease tests on black soldiers), why would any thinking being allow this evil entity to command one to fight and die. Hell is real and we're all in it.
@@blyatman7244 serious physics question here, open ended for others too. What do we think might have happened if instead of laying on the helmet he had either just placed the helmet over it, or even tried to hold it but lifted up a side to allow part of the pressure to dissipate? Like from a math perspective could the helmet have not exploded and still contained the fragments?
My great uncle Marine Sgt. Ross F. Gray was awarded the Medal of Honor for his heroic action on Iwo Jima during WWII. Later the Navy named a frigate in his honor, The USS Gray. My grandmother (his sister) christened the ship.
Just read about him. He was a heroic and brave man. www.marines.mil/News/News-Display/Article/2090282/we-are-iwo-medal-of-honor-recipient-sgt-ross-f-gray/
I read the story and this man was quite the badass!! 12 trips crawling back and forth and single handedly destroying 6 enemy positions! That is definitely something your family should be quite proud of!
@@marcwhilden5517 We are. My aunt has his Medal of Honor. She takes it to schools and groups with the Marine Corp. League and talks about him and the marines role in WW2
An interesting outlook on the Medal of Honor was presented by Delta Force Sergeant Major Thomas Payne. He said he's not a recipient, but a guardian. The Medal honors his brothers who didn't make it back.
The honor from receiving the MOH is greater than the honor of a knighthood too. The latter is "Oh, you're famous and respected" or more commonly "Oh you work for the government" The MOH is recognition that, for a brief moment, you were literally Superman.
But...to get a Medal of Honor...usually you will need to: Sacrifice your life. Or.... Lose some body parts. Or... Literally be possessed by Doomguy or Kratos or John Wick or Terminator on the worst day of your life and turn it into many, many bad guys' last day of their life. Annnnnnnd, knighthood can be bought.
Not now days. Now the ones that have received it in the past few years did show bravery but did they show enough to earn the medal of honor? I personally do not think so I do think they should’ve been accommodated with a silver star or a bronze star at the very least. Soldiers are expected to fight and if they have to die. So if a soldier happens to kill a couple of enemy soldiers or enemy combatants They should not receive the medal of honor because that’s what they were trained to do. It’s turned into a political thing now. Trump gave couple of metal of honor’s because he wants good press and so did Obama. I’m not sure if people realize exactly all the rights and privileges that go along with that metal. Like the government takes care of them 100% for the rest of their life. That’s a very good thing to have only if you earned it though. Take a look at World War II those men that were awarded that Medal of Honor Most were already dead when they got it the ones that were still alive didn’t want it because they said the ones that gave their life earned it. But you look at the guys that have received it over the last 10 years and they all say yes I earned this. Not very humble
@@JA-eq5um I agree with you on this. It reminds me of the story that when Queen Victoria and Albert wrote the criteria for the Victoria Cross (in essence the British MoH), they refrained from using the words courage instead opting for "... most conspicuous bravery, or some daring or pre-eminent act of valour or self-sacrifice, or extreme devotion to duty in the presence of the enemy". They believed that every soldier who faced the enemy was courageous. Its like you say "that’s what they were trained to do. " I cannot for the life of me remember where I heard that story though
What they did is deserving of a moh your just turning it into politics ive heard of guys taking 4 guys down in a room alone with a broken collarbone and he got a commendation medal......
@@derwynowen8609 Do you honestly think 40 times more US than UK service personnel have been involved in conflicts since WWII? Come on now. 10 to 1 based on the current relative size is plausible, though the difference was much less in the past. 20 to 1 just maybe. 40 to 1? No. The UK has been involved in armed conflict somewhere pretty much continuously since WWII. There are just 5 living Victoria Cross recipients plus 3 recipients of the VC for Australia and one of the VC for New Zealand.
I served with a MoH recipient,...not in combat, but years after he received it. He was a Navy Seal that received his medal for actions in Vietnam. He was also a founding member of Seal Team Six. Before he retired, they sent him to our Seabee Battalion, an Amphibious Construction Battalion. The rumor was, the Navy wanted to transition him from the teams before sending him out into the real world after his retirement. Since we were right next door to Seal Team Two, he still had access to that part of his life. By then, he had gone through the Limited Duty Officer (LDO) program and was a Lieutenant, in charge of our Bravo Company. He was an Engineman First Class Petty Officer when he performed his heroic actions. I had the privilege of not only working for him and spending personal time with him, I also got to handle his field jacket and see his presidential citation with my own eyes. I have stories, but not enough time and space here.
Teddy came to my mind immediately too! I was surprised! I remember childhood visits to Sagamore Hill on Long Island. I will never forget the most offensive piece of furniture I could ever imagine made from an elephant foot; I think it was an umbrella stand, but honestly I am still so traumatized it is just a woozy memory. 🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘 Update I just read an article on Sagamore Hill and apparently I may be mistaken in that the article mentions a rhino foot ink well. 😢 🦏🦏🦏🦏🦏
Big thanks to your GGD for his service. My dad was supposed to have an MRI done after the docs dug out numerous shrapnel shards from 47 years ago, but stopped when they found a tiny shard IN his eyeball. And that was from ONE PH...can't imagine SEVEN.
My grandpa declined his Purple Heart.. he came under fire and got a nasty cut jumping out of the jeep. He thought it was a stupid way to get hurt. He later regretted this as it would have meant an extra $15 per month. He was very thrifty..
I've seen one of those license plates on a truck while traveling through Arizona at a gas station. At first glance the unimpressive older man seems ordinary, until you see that light blue and white license plate! And your like WOW!
@Alan Smithee you sure are quick to forget those troops were there because of Trumps actions. Just as quick to forget that Republicans are the party that has nazis, white supremacist and malicious foreign country support.
@@redjellonian8126 dude seriously! Turn off the news and walk outside. You'll find that following the political BS in America is a serious detriment to ones sanity. The whole political system is what is wrong. No political party is exempt from the horrible retoric that has fallen from DC for the past 4 years. Just list out who said what, and you'll find the hatred didn't care what letter their name was preceded by. Thinking back over the last presidents, the hatred since Clinton left office has gotten much worse. The nation is currently divided into 3 parts. One part hates the others policies, and would actively try to forcefully change government. Another part hates the individuals that are the one part, and seek to take their livelyhood, and freedom of movement. Then the third part, like me, that thinks y'all are idiots driving America to certain doom.
@@Ripu2 Okay, you go ahead and stand for nothing. You continue to keep your head buried and ass in the air. Submit to whatever happens while others fight and maybe if you're lucky enough good people who are clearly better than you will stand up for what they believe in and win so your worthless ass doesn't end up considered something less than human within the next 20 years.
As a brand new soldier on my first assignment, I briefly served with Medal of Honor recipient Sergeant Major Jon Cavaiani. When he was preparing to leave for his final duty assignment, as an ROTC advisor here in California, I asked him: “Sergeant Major, you have The Medal, you can go wherever you want in the Army, why an ROTC assignment?” He answered, “You’re right. It’s my home (California), it’s a college, and I own vineyards nearby”.
It's very unlikely any British soldiers experience a similar situation with a soldier awarded the Victoria cross. Most are awarded the VC posthumously. That's how hard it is to get.
@@OutdoorGearReviews I think both medals are even harder to get nowadays. Partly because the technology and modern type of warfare there are less situations for individual bravery, such attacking a machine gun post and dragging a wounded soldier back like ww2 Nowadays something like that would be destroyed further away or by drones. I watched a movie about Audie Murphy recently I don't know why I hadn't seen it before he won a moh among other awards and he was only young , he had a tough life b4 the war bringing up his siblings , I read little about him after watching the movie & watched footage of soldiers who fought with him , thdy all said he was a quiet humble polite lad . He didn't consider himself brave . But those type guys rarely do . I'd seen him in cowboy films etc but I didn't know he was a real war hero ..
A person does not earn it. It is received because the person was chosen to receive it. Everyone does not get one. There is no personal qualification standard to do to accomplish the medal. Earning is not the correct term. The term is Recipient.
luke sullivan yes but a guy who goes overseas and shoots shots off in the distance from his fox hole at a town for months on end, which is what most do, isn’t gonna “receive” a medal of honor. You do earn it. All the men who received one, earned it. They did something. That acted above and beyond the call of duty. They earned that medal. It’s not a gift they did nothing for.
david bright thats a moot point. No one is talking about how the recipient responds to or feels about being awarded the medal of honor. We are talking about how to get one. The point is, you do earn it in a sense. Sure there is no set guidelines or rules to earn it, but you have to go “above and beyond” the call of duty. Whatever that may be.
One Briton who was awarded the MOH was the unknown warrior in Westminster Abbey. Britain reciprocated by awarding the Victoria Cross to the American unknown soldier.
I had the honor of serving with a Medal recipient, Sfc. Hillenburg. He was awarded it for actions at Khe Sahn when he was a Marine. After Vietnam, he joined the Army. He was my NCOIC at my last posting. He was the most humble person I have ever met. In the field though, he was also the most dangerous humans I have ever seen. Thanks Gunny wherever you are.
Dakota Meyer once said (while speaking of the Medal of Honor). “ it’s a reminder to me that I am a failure, I failed my teammates that day. And for that they died and now I have to live every day with knowing I failed them”
I met him awhile ago while aboard a Navy ship; he was talking about a foundation for veterans and a few other things, and was the guest of a former Commandant’s wife (since he married her daughter... Imagine being the Commandant’s son-in-law). Dude was tall as fuck.
I listened to the story on Jocko Podcast. It took me a couple of tries to get through it because I get so upset. I’ve noticed that many times a MOH event happens because someone or many people royally fooked up and the MOH recipient has to do his job against all odds because of their screw up. Dakota did everything right that day but almost everyone else did everything wrong. They would not even give him artillery support and another platoon would not go into the valley to help him. Even after all of that he still blames himself. I think it shows how great of a person he truly is that he just wishes he could have saved his friends.
Thanks for crediting me for the use of my Terry Pratchet photo, guys. Too often, I come across uses of my photos that ignore the licensing requirements spelled out at Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia. Seeing that you dotted your i's and crossed your t's when it came to crediting a creator for their free-licensed comment is much appreciated! :-)
@@miguelwaide8198 Taking a good picture is HARD, its an artform. A photographer has a right to the copyright of the art they create. Now, if there is a person in the picture, that person also has a right to that content dependent on the contract signed between photographer and model. It can be rather complicated as all legal documents can be, but its still pretty common for someone to sign over the rights to the picture taken of them by a professional so long as certain rules are followed in its distribution.
Medal or Honor is giving to people who handle themselves in a most exceptional manner while going thru some of the worse moments in their life. Knighthood is granted to anyone with money that the crown may fancy.
You dont get knighted due to money, Several people who were poor or came from poor backgrounds have been knighted, you get it for being distinguished in your field.
I'm friends with a MOH recipient. We spent time together in college just hanging out. There were a lot VN vets around back then. In the work place and school, some would talk about their service others were quiet about it. I knew he had served but he never mentioned one word about it. We have sence reconnected and I still will not bring up the subject. I am not a vet and cannot understand like others that have been in combat can. One of our friends mentioned to me he had seen heavy action. I never tried to find out. I my experience, vets will talk when they are ready. I did not find out about his MOH until after we had lost contact with each other. I had heard he started to come out of his shell when one of his combat mates told him he wears it for all of them.
I still believe Roosevelt ain't Dead, he's just having a really long boxing match with the grim reaper, how else can you explain how long our life expectancy suddenly got.
I'm sure a viewer has already mentioned this, but there were two American MOH recipients who also received British honorary knighthoods: General Douglas MacArthur and General Jimmy Doolittle. MacArthur earned his MOH in 1942 for his service in the Philippines and received his GCB in 1943, Doolittle earned his MOH in 1942 for the Tokyo Raid and received his KCB in 1944.
I don't know why the utube guy is comparing a knighthood with the medal of honour. The MOH is only awarded for exceptional bravery in battle. A knighthood is given to tv personalities, musicians and other non combative celebrities. The only military comparison is the Victoria Cross .
Generally there are three considerations, acting without orders, with no regard to personal safety, and going above and beyond the call of duty. Its is almost always for a sustained period as well.
That is why we win wars. In other nation's militaries things are so regimented that people will stand around waiting for orders as the ship sinks or the enemy overwhelms them. In the U.S. armed forces the people actually facing the enemy are given a great deal more latitude in how to deal with them.
@@Ho_Lii_Fuk Some have adapted. It varies by nation. A classic example is that of the Musashi (sister ship to the super-battleship Yamato). See, Japanese ships had these huge tall "pagoda masts" that could only be lightly armored for stability reasons. The key officers were supposed to command from the heavily armored citadel, but bravado being what it is they much preferred the observation decks on the Pagoda masts. One 500lb bomb hit the Pagoda mast on Mushashi and killed almost all the senior officers. The enlisted men ran around like headless chickens until the thing sank.
Man, I remember when I was active duty and a MoH recipient showed up. The whole damn base shut down and went into cleaning mode before they showed up. Then they were greeted at the gate or the port by the highest ranking commander on the instillation. I think the biggest was in Bagram Afghanistan when there was a group of them going around doing a meet and greet tour. All of the roads shut down, we went up a security level and I believe it was the general in charge of the 82nd air borne or 10th mountain (can't quite remember which) met them at the air port and paraded them around Disney drive. I can understand getting annoyed at this. A bunch of the older dudes that have had it longer just start being sneaky ninjas about it if they want to go on base to do some shopping or see friends.
@Russ Gallagher they - used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified. Instead of an attempt at being a grammar nazi, maybe you could have thought critically and figured out that there is more than 1 MOH recipient alive and able to visit a location. The most I have seen in one location was 15 and we had 4 or 5 in the area that would make regular visits. That means THEY showed up and THEY is still an appropriate pronoun when referring to anyone regardless of sex and PC culture attempting to take over if THEY were previously mentioned. We won't even go into the talk about the entourage that often followed around new awardees on their MWR tour that is often obligatory.
@@zososldier in that case you are using "they" as gender non-specific *third* person *singular* pronoun, which means it should be "they was greeted" not "they were greeted" also one should avoid ambiguity in general, it's just a nice thing to do.
A true hero needs no reason to jump into harms way, he/she merely sees a situation. It's what we call "Sacrifice of Self". It's for this reason that a Medal of Honor can never be "won".
Imagine being awarded our nation's highest honor, and also being publicly reminded of the worst day of your life. "This Medal of Honor does not belong to me. This medal belongs to every man and woman who has ever served their country. We were doing what we were trained to do. We were doing our job." - Michael E Thornton
@@kenshinyamamoto5855Yes, but many who are awarded it don't like to claim it as "their" own award. Meant might humble it down, because they don't really see themselves as heroes. It's not tradition that recipients will dedicate it to their fellow troops, because they might truly believe to be that, especially to those troops they lost. The actions that fulfill the requirements to earn the MOH are horrific.
Technically the Victoria/George Cross compared to the Medal of Honour. Service personel can win the George Cross, but it is awarded for acts of exceptional Valour above and beyond the call of duty when NOT in direct contact with the enemy. It is no accident that more than half the winners of the George Cross are EOD (Ordnance disposal), so it is not only a Civilian award, which some people claim.
Hate to say this, but the VC is arguably higher. Around for longer, but awarded far fewer times (and the idea that the USA is bigger than the UK doesn't carry here, because it isn't, or hasn't been, just awarded to British people - Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the Commonwealth/Empire).
@@davidwallin7518 How “high” a medal is in context of actions and events like these is perhaps one of the most irrelevant and silly things to debate about. They are recognition, the actions are what matter, not some bling.
@@davidwallin7518 we award more MoH’s than the British awards VC’s because we are the land of the Free and home of the Brave. We are simply more brave. :)
In a way it makes me glad these moh recipeints get tired of getting patted on the back. It shows our country is giving them our undying gratitude and will always recognize their truly legendary feats.
I have been privileged to salute 4 MOH recipients. You don't "win" that medal. It's way more significant than that. You "earn" the Medal of Honor. A person doesn't get it for being well born or rich. He gets it by being a true Hero. And most of these great men don't really even think they deserve it in my experience. They are humble. And they are the real deal.
Much respect to those awarded the MoH. I might point out the knighthoods too are awarded for all the traits you attribute to the MoH, just not necessarily in combat. ( Your description notably did not mention combat ). It isn't about being from the right bloodline, being well born or rich - it's about the contribution.
That's actually really cool. Ive read about a few of them, and saw some short documentaries on others... never met one in real life though, Served in the Navy here, and reading what some of the guys in the navy had to do to earn one.... fuck man. The story that sticks with me is of the Chief who not only saved his ship from sinking by his quick thinking, but also saved his immediate compartment men. he was in a below decks room that was breached by an enemy strike, the hole was too rapid and great to even attempt repair, he forced his men out of the room, but the door wouldn't seal right.... so this bastard wedged himself into the back of the door with an Iron bar to keep it shut enough to make it water tight. Obviously he drowned, but the ship didn't sink, when they went to recover his body, his hands still had a death grip on the bar and he was still holding the door tight. that's crazy hardcore.
@@Legohaiden Generally speaking one has to save multiple lives to win the MoH, and at great risk to one's own life in the process. There's some other requirement about it happening under conditions of war but I'm not sure about the particulars.
Fun Story. My Friend on duty doing crowd control/security at an navy event with a buddy of his. When this old guy pulls up and gets ready to park in the VIP section (which was for High ranking officers only) He is in civilian clothes and didn't look like any of the attendees .My friends buddy(an E-4) goes up to "set the old cogger straight". The Sargent starts to tell the driver that he can't park their and he'll have to leave. The old guy looks at the E-4 and smiles, tells him to check his license plate. Being a dipshit, the Sargent starts to tell the the old guy off, until my friend sees the MoH plate on the man's car. He hauls ass, tells the Sargent to zip it and whisper to him about the MoH plate. They both apologize and snap the crispess salute of his life. They even open the car doors for him and his wife.
@@jordanhennessey289 That is probably my fault as it was about 2 decades ago when I heard this, so I got a lot of the details wrong (Buck Sargent is not a Navy rank.....etc) it was funny when he told it. But I thought it was a good story to share in the comments.
This isn’t really an apples to apples comparison. The Victoria Cross is the highest military honour which is what these soldiers would have been awarded if they were in the Uk.
maybe if you include staff and support personnel, but the actual fighting force of a battalion is probably closer to about half that in most cases, doesn't really matter for the impressiveness of the guy's achievement though
@@somegoddamnguy Not nitpicking or anything but in cases like this it usually means what the OP commenter said, that it was a force roughly that size, not that it was necessarily a specific battalion. You are entirely correct though that a battalion isn't always, and often isn't, 1,000 people dedicated to being infantrymen, for example. In the Marine Corps H&S Company in an infantry battalion can be anywhere from a quarter to more than a third of the manpower in the unit, with it usually being more than that since a lot of infantry battalions are actually understrength.
The less spoken about feature is the sheer amount of intimidation and awe that the medal sends to anyone that sees it. I've encountered two recipients in person, one on a military base, and one at a civilian dinner reception. Since the medal and it's instantly recognizable light blue ribbon stand out against one's dark uniform, it's the thing that everyone in a 20 foot radius will no doubt notice immediately at first glance, and that moment of recognition is palpable. In both instances where I saw the medal, I also immediately recognized that everyone around me was looking like they saw a ghost, and struggled to even make eye contact with the medal recipient. People were basically tripping over themselves to show respect, even the civilians at the dinner party.
I think if you're good enough to get a knighthood, you should be considered trustworthy enough for an exception that allows you to walk around in public with a sword.
naw… you can literally buy Knighthood online from Sealand (a real country of sorts) and without any military training, we don't need these fancy pants businessmen and movie stars walking around with swords.
I have seen the MoH interviews on Medal of Honor Book here on RUclips. The men demonstrate so many similar traits yet each were individual men who were in peculiar circumstances acting as in a trance in a strange standstill of time to guard the precious life of a wounded Warrior even if it costed their own life. I give particular notice to the Combat Medics who so sacredly beheld the lives of wounded Soldiers, Marines, Airmen or Sailors. Many had the Combat Infantryman Badge stacked right on top of the Combat Medical Badge. These guys truly reflected the truth of Christ's words when he said "Greater love have no man than that he give his life for another." This seems to be the prevailing mantra these MoH recipients spoke.
When you have a Victoria cross even the King and Queen must stand when you enter the room. If you win the VC in the Navy you're officially allowed to piss into the wind. Just thought you'd like to know.
'Must' seems like a strong word. I am not sure what enforcement action can be taken against the king and queen if they dont, given they are legally immune to all criminal and civil proceedings.
A lame attempt to make USA better than Britain, again. Knighthood is civilian award, Victoria cross medal of valor and medal of honour are military and valor is emergency services aswell I belive
@@GodzillaofTokyo agree, unfair considering a knighthood was the origins of "rewarding" bravery on the field and medal of honour (and VC) is a modern evolved version, but it would have been a better comparison than recognition title vs military honours.
@@DavidSJr As in the UK the Victoria Cross has a higher post nominal prominence then even the highest ranking chivalric knighthood (the Orders of the Garter or the Thistle) - as shown by any VCs being awarded before knighthoods at an investiture. So the comparison should have been with VC and not a knighthood. Still, as a VC comes only with an annual discretionary pension amount awarded by HM Govt (currently about £10k p.a.) then the perks of having the US Medal of Honor are far more lucrative.
I remember attending officer training school for the Air Force and reading a wall with stories of all of the Air Force Medal of Honor winners. I'd guess 75% of them died in the act for which they were nominated. So every time I hear about someone being awarded a Medal of Honor I just know they did something over the top brave to earn it. The military doesn't just hand those out.
Not really man, a knighthood used to mean you now had a duty to the crown, you are now nobility, and must act in such a manner. Knighthoods usually came when you had shown prowess In battle, lizard lady makes a joke of this, musical achievements while imperative to the morale of a culture, doesn't merit a role in the state alone. Actually a knighthood isn't a reward at all, it's the king seeing you aren't a usless pleb and putting you to work to further the kingdom. Basically everyone with any power in a monarchy is a slave to that power, sure you're given land and money and a title, but now you're obliged to answer the king's call, you're obliged to defend his (and by extension the people's) interests, there's a whole different mentality behind monarchy. As where the MoH seems to be a literal reward for service and sacrifice, it's more akin to the Victoria Cross (usually followed by a knighthood)
Don't disrespect the dehydrated fruit, the fingers of death were horrible true, but the worst thing about the dehydrated fruit was the stomach issues of you had to many of them in a week, but they were not that bad.
40 years ago I was in basic at Ft.Jackson.We got stuck on base beautification while doing Reception station when suddenly a sedan pulls up.Out jumped a two star General who called over our drill Sergeant.We all stopped to watch.Sergeant turns around yells for a certain Private.The private runs up salutes the General.General talks to him the Private answers.Private salutes ran back grabbed his rake went back to work.We later found out that Private was a receiver of the Medal of Honor in Vietnam.He was what we called a retread.Someone who gets out ten years later reenlists.The General heard of the Privates resume'decided to personally show up and pull him out of lawn duty.The private told him its where he prefers to be.After reception station we were all assigned to our training companies.Never saw him again.
David Bellavia is a pretty decent guy. I met him in Batavia NY, where we both lived at the time, at a moving Vietnam wall dedication before he received the Medal of Honor. I spoke to him for a few moments but, of course, there were many people who wanted to speak to him.
Merle Walton He’s a great dude too. Hilarious in fact, when he’s allowed to be candid. He has to watch his mouth a lot now though. Not many men can talk so honest and openly about an insurgent trying to bite his dick off during hand to hand combat. Lol
@@BarryKidd Correct, the decoration was never officially named the Congressional Medal of Honor. The reverse of the Army version has "THE CONGRESS TO" and then the recipient's name but the other branches' versions don't. Congress isn't directly involved in deciding who gets the award. It's mostly the Defense Department that assesses the nominations.
From the United States constitution: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
I think what you missed is - in theory - a British person could be knighted in the UK, then become an American citizen, join the US military and THEN receive the Medal of Honor. Therefore, it is possible and would not violate the Constitution. Just never happened.
@@TheJTMcDaniel Technically that is correct according to current law, but it is simply part of immigration and naturalization law, not the Constitution. In theory, this law could be overridden by Congress and therefore happen. In fact, it may have already happened. An unknown British soldier was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor by Gen. Pershing himself. Since he was unidentified there is no way of knowing if he was a knight or not, ergo he may have held both honors. I'm not stating that under strict reading of US law that it is not allowed as it stands. But, as the video states, it could possibly happen. I do admit, technically you are right. I am just arguing the "what ifs", and in that sense, it is possible. Thank you for your thoughtful response. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Warrior
Also a possibility, and its mentioned in the video, but a UK military member can serve alongside US forces and be given a Medal of Honor for actions taken during that time, and be knighted.
Some of these comments mis-understand what the medal means. Their recipients do not win that medal, they are awarded it for incredible bravery. Also, usually when someone is awarded the MoH it means all their closest friends get fucked up. Killed, critically wounded, etc. Also, David Bellavia’s book is incredibly good. I bought and read it a year or so after it released, back in like 2007 or so. Highly recommend, it’s named House To House
You don't win a MoH or Purple Heart, and the PH is one no one WANTS. Also, one of the dirtiest secrets is how many MoH recipients are severely scarred by PTSD, let alone by any physical injuries they may have received.
Stackhouse I knew he was gonna mispronounce Bellavia’s name too. Lol Side note- my favorite part of his book is when he’s in the kill house screaming “the power of Christ compels you!” back at the insurgents when they yelled out “Allahu Akbar!” at him. Lol I really hope that part makes it into the movie.
Cool video. I've never had the honor of meeting a Medal of Honor recipient but I hope they and their families know how much I respect and appreciate their sacrifices.
An interesting note: Both Roosevelts received their medal posthumously but neither died in battle. President Theodore Roosevelt died of illness in 1919 at age 60 and received his medal in 2001. Brigadier-General Theodore Roosevelt died of a heart attack at age 56 in his caravan in Normandy in 1944, a little over a month after the landings, and received his medal a few months later. Though some of his peers think that he should only have gotten the Distinguished Service Cross and his death might have played a role in him receiving the higher honour. Which is not to say that he wasn't a complete badass who did more during the landings than anyone could have asked. He literally had to pester his superiors to be allowed to be in the first wave, arguing that it would boost everyones moral because if a general was with them, it can't be that bad.
He also directed traffic while under fire, discovered the troops had landed two miles south of their desiginated landing zone, and was the only general officer to go ashore with the first wave.
Man the medal of honor represents the recipients and alot of time his friends and families worst day ever all of these "perks" I guarantee that every Medal of Honor recipient living or dead would rather give that metal back if it meant his brothers in arms we're still with him and if that day had never happened
Some of the "benefits" you list are given to any active duty personnel or retired individuals, such as space "A" flights or Moral, Welfare and Recreation use (many retired become members of the Airmen, NCO or Officers' Club), plus a retired individual can use the Movie Theater, Base Exchange and Commissary for life.
Little known "fact," though awarded posthumously, Theodore Roosevelt still insisted on receiving his Medal of Honor personally. He is quoted as saying "Honor should not be given lightly. To esteem one man to be of great value because of a singular act while ignoring the rest of his record does all men disservice. Yet, if that one act serves as but an example of that record, then the honor serves to inspire all men. I do not reckon my actions to be exceptional. I only aimed to live by those virtues that all men should live by. True, I have faced great adversity, not least of which was clawing my way out of my eighty-two year resting place in order to attend the ceremony. Still, I reckon my actions to be those that should be the common for all men. It is for this reason that I accept this award, not to lift myself above my fellow man, but to exhort him to the same standard."
I am a huge fan of Theodore Roosevelt, and when I tell you that what you wrote sounds exactly like what he would have said, it is meant as high praise indeed and I most sincerely say to you "Bully!"
@@automaticninjaassaultcat3703 I was confused by that, also. I think OP meant some other word, not "posthumously" but I don't know what word he had in mind.
spot on with the MoH "perks". interesting side note. one man, Robert Howard is the only mant to have been recomended for the MoH 3 times. he refused it the first 2 times but reluctantly accepted the third. but you also failed to mention the only woman, (so far), to have been awarded the MoH. Dr Mary Edwards Walker in the Civil War.
I thought Robert L. Howard had first award denied because it was politically embarrassing (we weren't at war with Cambodia--but possibly some other secret limitation.) So he was given a silver star. Then it happened again, he was given a Distinguished service cross. And finally when it happened a third time Nixon said, "Goddamn it give him the medal of honor." Well, more or less.
And they took Dr. Walker's away from her! She had to fight tooth and nail to get it back. Eventually Dr. Walker's medal of honor was reinstated and she was issued a new one. She is buried with one on each side of her lapel!
@@crbrearley yes you are correct. his first 2 MoH recommendations were downgraded to DSC and SS but i read somewhere (and i could be mistaken) that he had requested those downgrades due to the nature of the operations involved. but whatever the case, he's still the only person to be recommended for the MoH 3 times.
@@zoetheexasperatedhistorian2516 One of the reasons that her's was revoked was because she wasn't actually in the military; she was a civilian volunteer. Her MoH wasn't reinstated until 1977, 56 years after she died. She was never required to return the medal and she wasn't buried with it; it is located Oswego, NY. She does have a rather unique situation of the recommending authority for the award was President Johnson., which was one of the reasons why her revocation was controversial.
@@erwin669 There were 8 civilians that received the Medal of Honor. All were rescinded in 1917 but later reinstated with Walkers in 1977 and the others in 1989. Mary Edwards Walker William H. Woodall civilian employee-scout. Woodall was with a group of scout spies dressed in Confederate uniforms when they captured Confederate General Rufus Barringer. Woodall captured the general's headquarter's flag. Martin Freeman - Freeman was at the Battle of Mobile Bay, Alabama. He was the pilot of the Union Flagship. He piloted the Navy's ships into the bay under "terrific" enemy fire John Ferrell - Ferrell was a civilian in the service of the Union Navy during the Civil War. While acting as a Navy pilot near Nashville, Tennessee, an engagement with Confederates saw the flag of their ship, the Neosho, shot down. Ferrel and the ship's quartermaster ran through the enemy fire to reraise the flag. William F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody - In 1872, Buffalo Bill was a scout for the U.S. Army during the Indian Wars. He received the medal for gallantry in combat after leading a cavalry charge against a band of Sioux warriors. Amos Chapman & Billy Dixon - Chapman and Dixon were civilian scouts for the U.S. Army during the Indian Wars of the late 19th century. While working with Lt. Frank Baldwin out of Fort Dodge, he and another civilian scout, Billy Dixon, along with four soldiers, were confronted by a joint force of more than a hundred Comanche and Kiowa warriors. The six retreated to a buffalo wallow, when Dixon was wounded Chapman moved him into the wallow where they all held out for threedys until the Indians left. James Dozier - Another civilian scout during the Indian Wars, Dozier was awarded the honor for gallantry at the Little Wichita River, Texas in 1870.
Met one MOH Recipient ... A Marine Gunny at Camp Pendleton in 1981. He got it for clearing out NVA machine gun nests by himself despite being wounded. I was a L/Cpl then. I saluted him.
This just speaks positively of his character, really. He got reccomended for a thing that he and others didn't think he deserved and wanted to be sure to right the percieved error. necrobump ftw
I’m sure constantly being reminded of a horrible experience must be very tough. But people are going to appreciative when they get to meet such people in their own lives. I appreciate this video very much!
@@CasualNotice I must respectfully disagree. There is no such thing as the Congressional Medal of Honor or the Presidential Medal of Honor. There is the Medal of Honor and the Presidential Medal of Freedom. There is also a Congressional Gold Medal. The confusion arises because the Medal of Honor, which was first created by an act of Congress in 1861, is typically presented by the President in the name of the Congress, however, both the President and Congress have limited roles in determining who is nominated or receives it. The nomination process typically begins with a service member being recommended by his immediate superior for consideration. Nominations which are submitted outside the two year time limit for consideration require an act of Congress before they can be accepted for review. In either case the nomination must work its way through various levels of review by the service decoration board, senior decoration board, personnel (manpower), service chief, service secretary, Secretary of Defense, and the President. At any point along the way the medal can be recommended or not recommended. The President has the final say.
@@Paladin1873 Fair enough, and I realized that I had mistitled the Medal of Freedom immediately after the fact, but hadn't gotten around to correcting it.
If I recall correctly, the U.K., and the U.S., have each awarded *The V.C., and The MoH to the Unknown Warrior (U.K), and the Unknown Soldier (U.S.),* respectively.
Considering the standards required to receive the MOH, I have no beef whatsoever about the benefits conferred on the recipients. Also, thank you for getting the name of the medal right by not calling it the "Congressional Medal of Honor." Far too many people call it that, and it set this veteran's teeth on edge every time I hear it.
Books In Review are you as careless in your fact checking with your videos about “business success” as you are with your rush to praise Lincoln? Or perhaps you favor the bigger lie of the right-wing that facts are only those things we choose to believe and anything that disrupts one’s own narrative is “fake news”?
@@jpe1 Pot calling the kettle black please. I've never experienced such uniformity in ignorance as I have in talking to democrats. Starting with this whole left / right conceptual fallacy. You know nothing about me what so ever, and yet, I'm betting that you've made all sorts of assumptions about me just for not agreeing with you.
Eye of a Texan in what way have you disagreed with me? Classic left-wing thinking error is that criticism equals disagreement. My only assumption about you is that you have little practice using logic or rhetoric.
Another perk of the MoH; never having to pay for a drink ever again. Once revealed everyone one in attendance at a bar or function will be wanting to buy the recipient a drink.
One recipient I saw an interview of said he didn't consider himself a recipient because he didn't feel the medal belonged to him. He felt it belonged to the guys that he served with. Both those that did and did not come home. So he considered himself a caretaker of the medal. Really changed my perspective on it.
I've had the Honor of shaking hands with three MoH recipients. They all seemed a little embarrassed, but then again they just saw it as doing their Duty, and doing what needed to be done.
This is the kind of characteristic that earns someone that medal. I've read the citations for several (the medical department on most US Navy ships will have at least one wall dedicated to the numerous Navy corpsmen who have earned the MoH, usually while serving with the Marines, often posthumously), seen many interviews, and met one man who earned one before I was born. It almost always boils down to "somehow found the superhuman strength to do what had to be done to save _X_ number of his closest friends, in the most hellish conditions imaginable, on the worst day of his life".
I got to meet George Sakato a few years before he passed. He joked with some iraq/afghan war vets who by all means looked at him like boys seeing superman in person.
True. The comparison should be between the Victoria Cross and the MoH. The criteria for the VC is more strict than the MoH, although both require military bravery of the highest order.
Point being both the VC and MoH are the highest honor in two highly prestigious and powerful nations and a more appropriate comparison (though VC is more exclusive, IIRC the benefits are roughly equivalent)
I served in the US Army and my understanding about saluting an individual that has been awarded the Medal of Honor is that they are not saluting the individual but the Medal it self.
Yes, that seemed to be the military's stance when I was in, my personal stance was I saluted the person... and almost 20 years later after my retirement, I still do.
The individual has to have embodied the meaning behind the commendation though, if you take issue with the individual then you take issue with the medal itself or the set of circumstances that led to someone unworthy receiving the honour.
Interesting to learn that the saluting of MoH recipients is just informal tradition. I was stationed at Ft. Myer (Arlington) and we saluted MoH recipients as well as their tombstones when passing.
@ Care to explain what is grammatically incorrect with, "You are hired!" If your are going to be a member of the grammar gestapo, you need to be able to explain/justify/defend your interjection!
@ Now there is egg on my face and an apology in order. First the apology. Missed the edit/correction on the part of Michael which makes your post appear to be an invalid one. Sorry that I jumped onto your correction little realizing that it was valid. As to the egg on my face. In my haste to make my post, I failed to take the time to proof read it well enough thus setting myself up for correction of "your are." Rather embarrassing to say the least. Maybe a good lesson in thinking twice before one sets out to correct others. I appreciate that your reply to my post was in a civil manner, much more so than mine. Best and have a good day.
nuff said it’s a weird thing I’ll bet, having everyone swoon over you due to something that you feel was just “helping my brothers-in-arms” wouldn’t you do the same? Most would like to think so, reminds me of a scene that played out on Blackhawk Down, when sgt. Struecker told the private to “save your K-Bar” or when Shugart and Gordon (both MoH recipients) were asked by Gen Garrison if they understood what they were asking when they asked to be dropped in to save Mike Durant, even though they didn’t even know if there were survivors. Those guys were Delta Force btw.
@Robin Elliot He received the award. An award is a recognition. He was recognized for his heroism and bravery. The hero is almost always humble about it. For the hero, he was doing what felt right and needed at the time. It is the rest of us that recognize the heroism. It is not necessary for the hero to recognize it. The humble, unselfishness is a huge part of the recognition we give (award) to the recipient. He receives the award (the giving), usually just as humbly as he earned it.
I'm a retired military veteran. Every medal earned is presented with an "award" letter. As it is being awarded to the service member, surviving spouse, or other family survivor, the award letter is read by the presenter. Military Fact. The letter even states that the service member is being awarded the medal.
You and your family can also use Space A (available) if you are active military or if you are retired military and flying with your spouse and children under the age of 18 (unless that child is enrolled in a university and has their student ID). Just to note too, we are talking about flying on a military plane made for transport of heavy materials and personnel. In most cases its a C-110 you will be on with no insulation to keep the noise. From experience I suggest insert earplugs with headphones over top of them.
@CR Oh no, it's very well documented, it's how he started his speech: "FRIENDS, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible. I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose." en.wikisource.org/wiki/Progressive_Cause_Greater_Than_Any_Individual
When I was a teenager I was going to a July 4th fireworks display in Philadelphia. It was early evening and while walking down a major street, an older man with a few medals on his jacket was approaching. One of his medals was the Victoria Cross (the only one I recognized). As the distance closed, I took off my cap and said, "Good evening, sir". He just said, "Good evening...thank you". Sure made my day!
Robert L. Howard was nominated for the MoH three times. He turned it down the first two because it is typically a career ending medal and he was too busy stacking bodies at C&C with MAC V SOG. After the third nomination the Army told him his massive balls were beginning to make the other men feel inferior and forced the then Lieutenant to take the award.
I had heard that about other members of the military , even those of higher rank, saluted the MOH recipient s , but had never seen it in writing before. Thanks for sharing
My great grandfather rejected every medal he received. (He fought in several wars. Even wrote a book) His reason? He didn't fight for a piece of metal. He fought to keep his men alive.
God Bless your great grandfather, unfortunately Men like him are of a different & Rare breed that no longer exists in a true sense...again God Bless your great grandfather who I Salute & Thank him from the bottom of my heart for his service to this Nation 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@jerrybiv1441 I'm former Army and I can tell you that men like him still exist and serve, but all too often they come home with so much PTSD, the rest of their lives are often obscured by a wound they can never heal.
A knighthood isn't compatible to a medal of honour though, the British MOH is the Victoria cross as they're are specifically military, there are US equivalents better to knighthoods
My grandfather was a recipient. He stressed it wasn’t won or awarded, but received and worn on behalf of those that didn’t come back. He survived because of the snow. Freezing stopped bleeding, and he would not have survived. I grew up around many recipients because he was active in veterans issues in retirement and took us with him over the summer and school breaks. All humble great people. None of them wanted the medal or to experience that thrust them into the situation, they were all relatively ordinary people that responded to awful situations in an extraordinary manner. And those are the survivors.
While doubtful it was intended as such, I would like to point out that there is nothing lowly about being a sergeant. They are the backbone of every fighting force on earth. Ask any rifleman.
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Theodore Roosevelt did not get the CMOH until the George W Bush administration. His actions warranted it at the time, but he was turned down. Later when he became President, he made the requirement for being awarded the CMOH to be above his actions in combat.
The tradition in the Australian Armed Services is to salute the VC winner whenever. It is awarded by the Governor General and the Chief of the Armed Services offers the first salute. It is his privilege to do so.
Perhaps you should find out why it is that these "Medals of Honor" are inverted pentagrams? I bet you wouldn't be allowed to air that episode, or if you did, your channel would be shutdown. ;)
There's a Marine that received the Medal Of Honor after throwing his helmet over a grenade in Iraq and laying on the helmet to take the brunt of the explosion. He died but his name lives on because he has a Arleigh Burke class destroyer named after him. The USS Jason Dunham. When the ship was launched his mom was given the honor of breaking the bottle of champagne across the bow.
Kinda makes you wonder about the battle worthiness of a helmet, unless it were a nuclear grenade.
@@danielfronc4304 As far as I know, Helmets are not really designed to contain the pressure of an explosion. They are designed to protect the head from shrapnel or debris, but if the explosion is too close, shrapnel can still get through. Also most helmets are not bullet proof.
Now, with a helmet used by bomb squads, I guess you could survive a grenade to the face. But they are far too heavy for regular use on the battlefield. You gotta consider the weight as well.
Iirc that story about WW1 right... Helmets were almost pulled back again short after introduction. Because the statistics showed that since the introduction, far more soldiers were wounded in the head. But what was not in the statistics was that these soldiers would be dead without the helmets.
I think I even heard that story here on tifo, some time ago. But I am not sure.
@@danielfronc4304 Dude. The helmet, along with OTV, are designed to absorb 'most' of the energy from shrapnel or small caliber bullets. The blast of the frag grenade can, and most likely will, break the helmet
By your logic it's like having a fire extinguisher, it reduce the chance of people being burn to death, but also increase the rate of people getting burnt wounds. Does that mean the fire extinguisher not worth to buy? No.
People don't start wars, governments do. The Bible tells believers to beware "powers and principalities" that are doing evil. I believe the reason is any man made organization that lasts longer than the life of an average man always goes corrupt. As a peaceful man I often wonder why countries go to war and sacrifice their citizens in acts of barbaric hate. A larger question is why do the soldiers doing the dying fail to question the authority or the morality of the conflict they've been thrown into. With all the facts about the evil nature of the United States government (vaporizing Japanese innocent civilians with the atomic bomb or conducting disease tests on black soldiers), why would any thinking being allow this evil entity to command one to fight and die. Hell is real and we're all in it.
@@blyatman7244 serious physics question here, open ended for others too. What do we think might have happened if instead of laying on the helmet he had either just placed the helmet over it, or even tried to hold it but lifted up a side to allow part of the pressure to dissipate? Like from a math perspective could the helmet have not exploded and still contained the fragments?
My great uncle Marine Sgt. Ross F. Gray was awarded the Medal of Honor for his heroic action on Iwo Jima during WWII. Later the Navy named a frigate in his honor, The USS Gray. My grandmother (his sister) christened the ship.
Just read about him. He was a heroic and brave man. www.marines.mil/News/News-Display/Article/2090282/we-are-iwo-medal-of-honor-recipient-sgt-ross-f-gray/
good. heroics for ones country should be honored
I read the story and this man was quite the badass!! 12 trips crawling back and forth and single handedly destroying 6 enemy positions! That is definitely something your family should be quite proud of!
@@marcwhilden5517 We are. My aunt has his Medal of Honor. She takes it to schools and groups with the Marine Corp. League and talks about him and the marines role in WW2
A sincere thank you for his service.
An interesting outlook on the Medal of Honor was presented by Delta Force Sergeant Major Thomas Payne. He said he's not a recipient, but a guardian. The Medal honors his brothers who didn't make it back.
The difference is Medal of Honor doesn't feel like a reward to the people who get it. It's a solemn reminder.
Depends on the recipient. Some of them are right tossers.
Erik Van der Zee - unfortunately, many of them are dead.
@@navret1707 exactly, and the ones who survived are generally lone survivors or people who went through hell and readily accepted death but escaped it
Especially when the so many of recipients are awarded the medal posthumously.
@@MajesticSkywhale Or just scared it away.
The honor from receiving the MOH is greater than the honor of a knighthood too. The latter is "Oh, you're famous and respected" or more commonly "Oh you work for the government"
The MOH is recognition that, for a brief moment, you were literally Superman.
do you wear MoH 24/7 ? a knighthood shines everyday, because it is part of the name. :)
@@rivenoak So?
@@rivenoak MoH recipients didn't earn it to shine.
@@StruggleGun If anyone deserves a drink it's a MoH imo
@@rivenoak A knight in a shiny armor is a man that not even once in his life had his metal tested...
But...to get a Medal of Honor...usually you will need to:
Sacrifice your life.
Or....
Lose some body parts.
Or...
Literally be possessed by Doomguy or Kratos or John Wick or Terminator on the worst day of your life and turn it into many, many bad guys' last day of their life.
Annnnnnnd, knighthood can be bought.
Not now days. Now the ones that have received it in the past few years did show bravery but did they show enough to earn the medal of honor? I personally do not think so I do think they should’ve been accommodated with a silver star or a bronze star at the very least. Soldiers are expected to fight and if they have to die. So if a soldier happens to kill a couple of enemy soldiers or enemy combatants They should not receive the medal of honor because that’s what they were trained to do. It’s turned into a political thing now. Trump gave couple of metal of honor’s because he wants good press and so did Obama. I’m not sure if people realize exactly all the rights and privileges that go along with that metal. Like the government takes care of them 100% for the rest of their life. That’s a very good thing to have only if you earned it though. Take a look at World War II those men that were awarded that Medal of Honor Most were already dead when they got it the ones that were still alive didn’t want it because they said the ones that gave their life earned it. But you look at the guys that have received it over the last 10 years and they all say yes I earned this. Not very humble
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@@JA-eq5um I agree with you on this. It reminds me of the story that when Queen Victoria and Albert wrote the criteria for the Victoria Cross (in essence the British MoH), they refrained from using the words courage instead opting for "... most conspicuous bravery, or some daring or pre-eminent act of valour or self-sacrifice, or extreme devotion to duty in the presence of the enemy". They believed that every soldier who faced the enemy was courageous. Its like you say "that’s what they were trained to do. "
I cannot for the life of me remember where I heard that story though
What they did is deserving of a moh your just turning it into politics ive heard of guys taking 4 guys down in a room alone with a broken collarbone and he got a commendation medal......
@@JA-eq5um what service do you hail again?
I think it would have been more relevant to compare the MoH " Medal of Honor" to the VC " Victoria Cross" as they are more similar than a Knighthood .
VC winners get
£10,000 per year extra pension
And are exempted for life from paying income taxes
cirian75 they are exempt from paying tax on the £10,000 they still pay income tax like everyone else.
@@cirian75 Doooood, I'm willing to literally kill to get a lifetime exemption from income taxes!!
immikeurnot that’ll just get you free room and board. At least you don’t pay tax in prison.
@@scottb.0185 of course you do :) phone calls or anything above bread and water costs money that you have to earn and that is taxed, of course :)
Two greatest words in the military “back pay”
Pretty sure the greatest words in the military are "DD-214".
@@Shifterwizard I got both in the same year... was like winning the lottery!
no it's
"unlimited crayons"
Back pay while out of the military after fighting for earned for disability benefits are the best
@@simunator no that's for Marines.
That "free seats on military flights" is going to get a lot more awesome when the Space Force gets up and running.
Space Force. Totally unnecessary.
@@Hansaman58 Why, is space going to stop existing?
Space Force is up and running.
@@Elthenar could have stayed part of airforce
Oh? Going to mars? Mind if I tag along?
Knighthood is now the Queens way of honoring her favorite enterainers. Somewhat of a Royal BAFTA or Oscar.
It's been that way for a long time the Beatles were knighted a long time ago now.
Most knighthoods are recommended by the elected government in power at the time...
The Order of the Garter is the queen's own gift...
I'd take the Oscar. Or even just a nomination. The loot you get for it is bonkers.
Tell that to sir. Martin Poliakoff, professor of chemistry, University of Nottingham.
or for a political bribe
A better comparison would be the Victoria Cross and the Medal of Honor.
The Victoria Cross is MUCH harder to get. Since WWII there have been 617 MOHs awarded. In the same period just 15 VCs.
Fully agree. VC and MoH would be the apples to apples comparison.
@@LiamE69 its not harder, its just there were fewer opportunities
@@derwynowen8609 Do you honestly think 40 times more US than UK service personnel have been involved in conflicts since WWII? Come on now. 10 to 1 based on the current relative size is plausible, though the difference was much less in the past. 20 to 1 just maybe. 40 to 1? No.
The UK has been involved in armed conflict somewhere pretty much continuously since WWII.
There are just 5 living Victoria Cross recipients plus 3 recipients of the VC for Australia and one of the VC for New Zealand.
LiamE69 maybe, but the UK was not involved in large conflicts like the US was. The US committed far more troops to Korea Vietnam etc.
"You could potentially have a four star general saluting a lowly standing in his boxers if the latter was a Metal of Honor Recipient."
Damn straight.
And he will gladly too.
Deleted Scenes from We Were Soldiers did exactly this - except the guy had 2 MOHs
I served with a MoH recipient,...not in combat, but years after he received it. He was a Navy Seal that received his medal for actions in Vietnam. He was also a founding member of Seal Team Six. Before he retired, they sent him to our Seabee Battalion, an Amphibious Construction Battalion. The rumor was, the Navy wanted to transition him from the teams before sending him out into the real world after his retirement. Since we were right next door to Seal Team Two, he still had access to that part of his life. By then, he had gone through the Limited Duty Officer (LDO) program and was a Lieutenant, in charge of our Bravo Company. He was an Engineman First Class Petty Officer when he performed his heroic actions. I had the privilege of not only working for him and spending personal time with him, I also got to handle his field jacket and see his presidential citation with my own eyes. I have stories, but not enough time and space here.
He better and shine his boots too on the spot
Medal*
"The manliness man to ever man" I knew he was talking about Teddy instantly. Nice video
Mad Jack Churchill
@@zeldanut1383 nah maybe the second, cuz teddy is the spirit of america
Teddy Pendergrass?😂
Teddy came to my mind immediately too!
I was surprised!
I remember childhood visits to Sagamore Hill on Long Island.
I will never forget the most offensive piece of furniture I could ever imagine made from an elephant foot; I think it was an umbrella stand, but honestly I am still so traumatized it is just a woozy memory.
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Update
I just read an article on Sagamore Hill and apparently I may be mistaken in that the article mentions a rhino foot ink well. 😢
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@Eric Rogers lmao you damn fool!
My great granddad never got the medal of honor, but he got 7 purple hearts, and died at the age of 94 with grenade shrapnel still in his shoulder
Big thanks to your GGD for his service. My dad was supposed to have an MRI done after the docs dug out numerous shrapnel shards from 47 years ago, but stopped when they found a tiny shard IN his eyeball. And that was from ONE PH...can't imagine SEVEN.
Thank him for his service when u get there.
My grandpa declined his Purple Heart.. he came under fire and got a nasty cut jumping out of the jeep. He thought it was a stupid way to get hurt. He later regretted this as it would have meant an extra $15 per month. He was very thrifty..
Absolute legend. God bless
A thank you his service.
The US Constitution prohibits any serviceman from accepting any title of nobility or honour w/o permission of the Congress. Gen. Patton had to refuse.
I'm vey sure Congress would have granted him permission had he asked.
James Dulany im surprised he didn’t.
Not true I was knighted by the Royal Order Of Scotland Thisle Clan in WA USA; MSG/CPT Bonnell 21years U.S. SOCOM
not exactly the wording is different I have been knighted by the Royal Order of Scotland
I'm pretty sure its elected officials, not service members.
I've seen one of those license plates on a truck while traveling through Arizona at a gas station. At first glance the unimpressive older man seems ordinary, until you see that light blue and white license plate! And your like WOW!
An interesting one you forgot: the MoH allows the recipient a phone call to the president which, as far as I'm aware, no president has ever refused.
Yet...
A DOD Reg cover Pay uniforms travel and a few other things a open phone to the CDR in Chief is not one of them.
@Alan Smithee you sure are quick to forget those troops were there because of Trumps actions. Just as quick to forget that Republicans are the party that has nazis, white supremacist and malicious foreign country support.
@@redjellonian8126 dude seriously! Turn off the news and walk outside. You'll find that following the political BS in America is a serious detriment to ones sanity.
The whole political system is what is wrong. No political party is exempt from the horrible retoric that has fallen from DC for the past 4 years.
Just list out who said what, and you'll find the hatred didn't care what letter their name was preceded by.
Thinking back over the last presidents, the hatred since Clinton left office has gotten much worse.
The nation is currently divided into 3 parts. One part hates the others policies, and would actively try to forcefully change government. Another part hates the individuals that are the one part, and seek to take their livelyhood, and freedom of movement. Then the third part, like me, that thinks y'all are idiots driving America to certain doom.
@@Ripu2 Okay, you go ahead and stand for nothing. You continue to keep your head buried and ass in the air. Submit to whatever happens while others fight and maybe if you're lucky enough good people who are clearly better than you will stand up for what they believe in and win so your worthless ass doesn't end up considered something less than human within the next 20 years.
As a brand new soldier on my first assignment, I briefly served with Medal of Honor recipient Sergeant Major Jon Cavaiani. When he was preparing to leave for his final duty assignment, as an ROTC advisor here in California, I asked him: “Sergeant Major, you have The Medal, you can go wherever you want in the Army, why an ROTC assignment?” He answered, “You’re right. It’s my home (California), it’s a college, and I own vineyards nearby”.
It's very unlikely any British soldiers experience a similar situation with a soldier awarded the Victoria cross.
Most are awarded the VC posthumously.
That's how hard it is to get.
@@kevcaratacus9428it’s the same for the MoH. Most of them are given to the families of those who earned them at the cost of their lives.
@@OutdoorGearReviews I think both medals are even harder to get nowadays.
Partly because the technology and modern type of warfare there are less situations for individual bravery, such attacking a machine gun post and dragging a wounded soldier back like ww2
Nowadays something like that would be destroyed further away or by drones.
I watched a movie about Audie Murphy recently I don't know why I hadn't seen it before he won a moh among other awards and he was only young , he had a tough life b4 the war bringing up his siblings , I read little about him after watching the movie & watched footage of soldiers who fought with him , thdy all said he was a quiet humble polite lad .
He didn't consider himself brave .
But those type guys rarely do .
I'd seen him in cowboy films etc but I didn't know he was a real war hero ..
Earning a medal of honor is not something one typically survives.
A person does not earn it. It is received because the person was chosen to receive it. Everyone does not get one. There is no personal qualification standard to do to accomplish the medal. Earning is not the correct term. The term is Recipient.
luke sullivan yes but a guy who goes overseas and shoots shots off in the distance from his fox hole at a town for months on end, which is what most do, isn’t gonna “receive” a medal of honor. You do earn it. All the men who received one, earned it. They did something. That acted above and beyond the call of duty. They earned that medal. It’s not a gift they did nothing for.
@@dhoops616 no most say they just did what was needed to be done.
david bright thats a moot point. No one is talking about how the recipient responds to or feels about being awarded the medal of honor. We are talking about how to get one. The point is, you do earn it in a sense. Sure there is no set guidelines or rules to earn it, but you have to go “above and beyond” the call of duty. Whatever that may be.
Untrue. About 30% are awarded to living recipients. That's a majority but not rare, either.
One Briton who was awarded the MOH was the unknown warrior in Westminster Abbey. Britain reciprocated by awarding the Victoria Cross to the American unknown soldier.
That was nice of them.
Very cool, did not know that.
Good catch all the "unknowns are awarded the medal of Honor
I had the honor of serving with a Medal recipient, Sfc. Hillenburg. He was awarded it for actions at Khe Sahn when he was a Marine. After Vietnam, he joined the Army. He was my NCOIC at my last posting. He was the most humble person I have ever met. In the field though, he was also the most dangerous humans I have ever seen. Thanks Gunny wherever you are.
Dakota Meyer once said (while speaking of the Medal of Honor). “ it’s a reminder to me that I am a failure, I failed my teammates that day. And for that they died and now I have to live every day with knowing I failed them”
I met him awhile ago while aboard a Navy ship; he was talking about a foundation for veterans and a few other things, and was the guest of a former Commandant’s wife (since he married her daughter... Imagine being the Commandant’s son-in-law). Dude was tall as fuck.
@Dave C Survivor's guilt? Heroes like that should receive propper treatment...hell, I doubt that guy got the MOH because he fucked up!
Sounds a little bu shit and bloviating.
I listened to the story on Jocko Podcast. It took me a couple of tries to get through it because I get so upset. I’ve noticed that many times a MOH event happens because someone or many people royally fooked up and the MOH recipient has to do his job against all odds because of their screw up. Dakota did everything right that day but almost everyone else did everything wrong. They would not even give him artillery support and another platoon would not go into the valley to help him. Even after all of that he still blames himself. I think it shows how great of a person he truly is that he just wishes he could have saved his friends.
@@jda671 what upset me the most was the lack of leadership. The childish behavior
09:00 "They charged an arm and a leg"
To be fair, the military does that too, just literally.
Came to the comments to find this exact comment as I thought the same thing and in majority of cases a lot more then that 😥
Good ol' American Airlines, charging $200K for lifetime flights then trying to wriggle out of the promise.
Welcome to British humour club...
Thanks for crediting me for the use of my Terry Pratchet photo, guys. Too often, I come across uses of my photos that ignore the licensing requirements spelled out at Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia. Seeing that you dotted your i's and crossed your t's when it came to crediting a creator for their free-licensed comment is much appreciated! :-)
@@miguelwaide8198 Taking a good picture is HARD, its an artform. A photographer has a right to the copyright of the art they create. Now, if there is a person in the picture, that person also has a right to that content dependent on the contract signed between photographer and model. It can be rather complicated as all legal documents can be, but its still pretty common for someone to sign over the rights to the picture taken of them by a professional so long as certain rules are followed in its distribution.
Medal or Honor is giving to people who handle themselves in a most exceptional manner while going thru some of the worse moments in their life. Knighthood is granted to anyone with money that the crown may fancy.
Yes, the UK equivalent of the MoH is actually the Victoria Cross
I want to be knighted and guarantee a lifetime insurance
That is not how knighthoods work.
You dont get knighted due to money, Several people who were poor or came from poor backgrounds have been knighted, you get it for being distinguished in your field.
Brian Jones then how does it work
"I'd rather have the medal of honor than be president". President Harry Truman
"I'd rather fake bone spurs than serve my country." Trump, likely.
wuhdee1 you had to ruin it with a snide remark
@@wuhdee1 🤣
The buck stops here.
Truman
He shouldered a huge burden
@@hitmanRazo it was a joke, stop getting offended over jokes
I'm friends with a MOH recipient. We spent time together in college just hanging out. There were a lot VN vets around back then. In the work place and school, some would talk about their service others were quiet about it. I knew he had served but he never mentioned one word about it. We have sence reconnected and I still will not bring up the subject. I am not a vet and cannot understand like others that have been in combat can. One of our friends mentioned to me he had seen heavy action. I never tried to find out. I my experience, vets will talk when they are ready. I did not find out about his MOH until after we had lost contact with each other. I had heard he started to come out of his shell when one of his combat mates told him he wears it for all of them.
President Roosevelt recieved his medal of honour in 2001, his son in 1944.
idk why this made me laugh 😶
Which one?
@@ryanpm6055 they where both dead in 2001
@Greg Worthington Nope, 2001.
I still believe Roosevelt ain't Dead, he's just having a really long boxing match with the grim reaper, how else can you explain how long our life expectancy suddenly got.
I'm sure a viewer has already mentioned this, but there were two American MOH recipients who also received British honorary knighthoods: General Douglas MacArthur and General Jimmy Doolittle. MacArthur earned his MOH in 1942 for his service in the Philippines and received his GCB in 1943, Doolittle earned his MOH in 1942 for the Tokyo Raid and received his KCB in 1944.
I don't know why the utube guy is comparing a knighthood with the medal of honour.
The MOH is only awarded for exceptional bravery in battle.
A knighthood is given to tv personalities, musicians and other non combative celebrities.
The only military comparison is the Victoria Cross .
He didn't mention the main requirement for MOH consideration, one must "act without orders". I had to look that up during chief season
where is that??
Generally there are three considerations, acting without orders, with no regard to personal safety, and going above and beyond the call of duty. Its is almost always for a sustained period as well.
That is why we win wars. In other nation's militaries things are so regimented that people will stand around waiting for orders as the ship sinks or the enemy overwhelms them. In the U.S. armed forces the people actually facing the enemy are given a great deal more latitude in how to deal with them.
@@wamyx8Nz Idk where you got that from but that's just wrong in pretty much every single modern military.
@@Ho_Lii_Fuk Some have adapted. It varies by nation. A classic example is that of the Musashi (sister ship to the super-battleship Yamato). See, Japanese ships had these huge tall "pagoda masts" that could only be lightly armored for stability reasons. The key officers were supposed to command from the heavily armored citadel, but bravado being what it is they much preferred the observation decks on the Pagoda masts. One 500lb bomb hit the Pagoda mast on Mushashi and killed almost all the senior officers. The enlisted men ran around like headless chickens until the thing sank.
Man, I remember when I was active duty and a MoH recipient showed up.
The whole damn base shut down and went into cleaning mode before they showed up. Then they were greeted at the gate or the port by the highest ranking commander on the instillation.
I think the biggest was in Bagram Afghanistan when there was a group of them going around doing a meet and greet tour. All of the roads shut down, we went up a security level and I believe it was the general in charge of the 82nd air borne or 10th mountain (can't quite remember which) met them at the air port and paraded them around Disney drive.
I can understand getting annoyed at this. A bunch of the older dudes that have had it longer just start being sneaky ninjas about it if they want to go on base to do some shopping or see friends.
Even the enemy will respect a MOH recipient.
@@bodyno3158 If the enemy has honor, in many cases they have not
@Russ Gallagher they - used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.
Instead of an attempt at being a grammar nazi, maybe you could have thought critically and figured out that there is more than 1 MOH recipient alive and able to visit a location.
The most I have seen in one location was 15 and we had 4 or 5 in the area that would make regular visits.
That means THEY showed up and THEY is still an appropriate pronoun when referring to anyone regardless of sex and PC culture attempting to take over if THEY were previously mentioned.
We won't even go into the talk about the entourage that often followed around new awardees on their MWR tour that is often obligatory.
@Russ Gallagher they still applies when referring to someone previously mentioned.
@@zososldier
in that case you are using "they" as gender non-specific *third* person *singular* pronoun, which means it should be "they was greeted" not "they were greeted"
also one should avoid ambiguity in general, it's just a nice thing to do.
A true hero needs no reason to jump into harms way, he/she merely sees a situation. It's what we call "Sacrifice of Self". It's for this reason that a Medal of Honor can never be "won".
Imagine being awarded our nation's highest honor, and also being publicly reminded of the worst day of your life.
"This Medal of Honor does not belong to me. This medal belongs to every man and woman who has ever served their country. We were doing what we were trained to do. We were doing our job." - Michael E Thornton
Doesnt the Medal of Honor is awarded to those who served above and beyond their call of duty?
@@kenshinyamamoto5855Yes, but many who are awarded it don't like to claim it as "their" own award. Meant might humble it down, because they don't really see themselves as heroes. It's not tradition that recipients will dedicate it to their fellow troops, because they might truly believe to be that, especially to those troops they lost. The actions that fulfill the requirements to earn the MOH are horrific.
The real UK / USA parallel is the Victoria Cross / Medal of Honor.
That is the only real comparison because their the highest military awards of the two countries.
Medal of Freedom or Congress Gold Medal would be the equivalent of knighthood
But it's more fun to compare apples to bananas
Technically the Victoria/George Cross compared to the Medal of Honour. Service personel can win the George Cross, but it is awarded for acts of exceptional Valour above and beyond the call of duty when NOT in direct contact with the enemy. It is no accident that more than half the winners of the George Cross are EOD (Ordnance disposal), so it is not only a Civilian award, which some people claim.
The U.S. is a Republic, we don't have a system of chivalric "honours" as in the UK. The equivalent of the MOH in the UK is the Victoria Cross.
Hate to say this, but the VC is arguably higher. Around for longer, but awarded far fewer times (and the idea that the USA is bigger than the UK doesn't carry here, because it isn't, or hasn't been, just awarded to British people - Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the Commonwealth/Empire).
@@davidwallin7518
The medal is worthless, it's the person who earned it and their actions that matter. Everything else is bullshit.
@nuff said Fair point
@@davidwallin7518 How “high” a medal is in context of actions and events like these is perhaps one of the most irrelevant and silly things to debate about. They are recognition, the actions are what matter, not some bling.
@@davidwallin7518 we award more MoH’s than the British awards VC’s because we are the land of the Free and home of the Brave. We are simply more brave. :)
In a way it makes me glad these moh recipeints get tired of getting patted on the back. It shows our country is giving them our undying gratitude and will always recognize their truly legendary feats.
I have been privileged to salute 4 MOH recipients. You don't "win" that medal. It's way more significant than that. You "earn" the Medal of Honor.
A person doesn't get it for being well born or rich. He gets it by being a true Hero. And most of these great men don't really even think they deserve it in my experience. They are humble. And they are the real deal.
And none of them think about it while they are doing it. They are just heroes that happened to be caught by someone who sees them as they really are
The is won on he field of honor
Much respect to those awarded the MoH.
I might point out the knighthoods too are awarded for all the traits you attribute to the MoH, just not necessarily in combat. ( Your description notably did not mention combat ).
It isn't about being from the right bloodline, being well born or rich - it's about the contribution.
That's actually really cool. Ive read about a few of them, and saw some short documentaries on others... never met one in real life though, Served in the Navy here, and reading what some of the guys in the navy had to do to earn one.... fuck man. The story that sticks with me is of the Chief who not only saved his ship from sinking by his quick thinking, but also saved his immediate compartment men. he was in a below decks room that was breached by an enemy strike, the hole was too rapid and great to even attempt repair, he forced his men out of the room, but the door wouldn't seal right.... so this bastard wedged himself into the back of the door with an Iron bar to keep it shut enough to make it water tight. Obviously he drowned, but the ship didn't sink, when they went to recover his body, his hands still had a death grip on the bar and he was still holding the door tight. that's crazy hardcore.
@@Legohaiden Generally speaking one has to save multiple lives to win the MoH, and at great risk to one's own life in the process. There's some other requirement about it happening under conditions of war but I'm not sure about the particulars.
Simon can be rather LONGWINDED... 8:15 -- when he begins discussing the perks of MoH reception.
Thank you! He obviously loves the sound of his own voice.
Fun Story. My Friend on duty doing crowd control/security at an navy event with a buddy of his. When this old guy pulls up and gets ready to park in the VIP section (which was for High ranking officers only) He is in civilian clothes and didn't look like any of the attendees .My friends buddy(an E-4) goes up to "set the old cogger straight". The Sargent starts to tell the driver that he can't park their and he'll have to leave. The old guy looks at the E-4 and smiles, tells him to check his license plate. Being a dipshit, the Sargent starts to tell the the old guy off, until my friend sees the MoH plate on the man's car. He hauls ass, tells the Sargent to zip it and whisper to him about the MoH plate. They both apologize and snap the crispess salute of his life. They even open the car doors for him and his wife.
nothing about this is fun
Jordan Hennessey Why’s that?
I'm definatley not saying it was a bad story in fact I enjoyed reading it. but it's not fun or funny
@@jordanhennessey289 That is probably my fault as it was about 2 decades ago when I heard this, so I got a lot of the details wrong (Buck Sargent is not a Navy rank.....etc) it was funny when he told it. But I thought it was a good story to share in the comments.
I cleaned it up and updated it with a few more details that I remembered.
This isn’t really an apples to apples comparison. The Victoria Cross is the highest military honour which is what these soldiers would have been awarded if they were in the Uk.
Also for anyone wondering a “battalion sized enemy force” is the equivalent to ~1000 men
maybe if you include staff and support personnel, but the actual fighting force of a battalion is probably closer to about half that in most cases, doesn't really matter for the impressiveness of the guy's achievement though
@@somegoddamnguy Not nitpicking or anything but in cases like this it usually means what the OP commenter said, that it was a force roughly that size, not that it was necessarily a specific battalion. You are entirely correct though that a battalion isn't always, and often isn't, 1,000 people dedicated to being infantrymen, for example. In the Marine Corps H&S Company in an infantry battalion can be anywhere from a quarter to more than a third of the manpower in the unit, with it usually being more than that since a lot of infantry battalions are actually understrength.
Battalion is supposed to be about half that a thousand and up is a regiment.
Hell I bet if it came to it any instagram influencer could get that many people to be in one place at the same time.
@@greenhowie Except none of them have any value on a battlefield.
The less spoken about feature is the sheer amount of intimidation and awe that the medal sends to anyone that sees it. I've encountered two recipients in person, one on a military base, and one at a civilian dinner reception. Since the medal and it's instantly recognizable light blue ribbon stand out against one's dark uniform, it's the thing that everyone in a 20 foot radius will no doubt notice immediately at first glance, and that moment of recognition is palpable. In both instances where I saw the medal, I also immediately recognized that everyone around me was looking like they saw a ghost, and struggled to even make eye contact with the medal recipient. People were basically tripping over themselves to show respect, even the civilians at the dinner party.
One bit of trivia; each of the 3 (Army, Navy and Air Force) branches of the military has a different design for their Metal of Honor.
I think if you're good enough to get a knighthood, you should be considered trustworthy enough for an exception that allows you to walk around in public with a sword.
I can't agree more
naw… you can literally buy Knighthood online from Sealand (a real country of sorts) and without any military training, we don't need these fancy pants businessmen and movie stars walking around with swords.
@@Legohaiden a knighthood of another country need not apply, they can walk around seal and with whatever they want.
@@Legohaiden Yeah...my daughter bought me a bit of paper that makes me a Lord of Sealand one Xmas lol
Just like being trained as a member of the Police means you're mentally balanced enough to carry a gun OH WAIT
I have seen the MoH interviews on Medal of Honor Book here on RUclips. The men demonstrate so many similar traits yet each were individual men who were in peculiar circumstances acting as in a trance in a strange standstill of time to guard the precious life of a wounded Warrior even if it costed their own life. I give particular notice to the Combat Medics who so sacredly beheld the lives of wounded Soldiers, Marines, Airmen or Sailors. Many had the Combat Infantryman Badge stacked right on top of the Combat Medical Badge. These guys truly reflected the truth of Christ's words when he said "Greater love have no man than that he give his life for another." This seems to be the prevailing mantra these MoH recipients spoke.
When you have a Victoria cross even the King and Queen must stand when you enter the room.
If you win the VC in the Navy you're officially allowed to piss into the wind.
Just thought you'd like to know.
"If you win the VC in the Navy you're officially allowed to piss into the wind."
Allowed but still not recommended.
The last RN/RM guy to get a VC was in 1945. There isn't a single one of them who is still alive.
'Must' seems like a strong word. I am not sure what enforcement action can be taken against the king and queen if they dont, given they are legally immune to all criminal and civil proceedings.
WHO would that be I don't even know of a living VC recipient?
@@rickbonnellranger2759 Johnson Beharry is one
Some medal of honor recipients also have buildings ie: school's and post office buildings for example and or vessel's named for them. (Edited)
buildings and vessels? you mean, tombs and coffins, right?
And 40 years later BLM finds out that you saw Blazing Saddles and make them change the name of the school.
I want to have my art buried in the sands of Egypt for time.
@@peterkoller3761 Ships have been named after MOH awardees. in fact, I believe there's a ship currently commissioned named after an Army MOH awardee.
They're awarded medals of honor... They do not win them.
Shouldn't the comparison be between the "Medal of Honor" and, the "Victoria Cross"?
Yes, I agree. This was a bit of a stupid comparison
A lame attempt to make USA better than Britain, again. Knighthood is civilian award, Victoria cross medal of valor and medal of honour are military and valor is emergency services aswell I belive
@@dragzgaming i think the original version of knighthood was a good comparison, but they seem to be comparing the modern versions.
@@GodzillaofTokyo agree, unfair considering a knighthood was the origins of "rewarding" bravery on the field and medal of honour (and VC) is a modern evolved version, but it would have been a better comparison than recognition title vs military honours.
@@DavidSJr As in the UK the Victoria Cross has a higher post nominal prominence then even the highest ranking chivalric knighthood (the Orders of the Garter or the Thistle) - as shown by any VCs being awarded before knighthoods at an investiture.
So the comparison should have been with VC and not a knighthood.
Still, as a VC comes only with an annual discretionary pension amount awarded by HM Govt (currently about £10k p.a.) then the perks of having the US Medal of Honor are far more lucrative.
I remember attending officer training school for the Air Force and reading a wall with stories of all of the Air Force Medal of Honor winners. I'd guess 75% of them died in the act for which they were nominated. So every time I hear about someone being awarded a Medal of Honor I just know they did something over the top brave to earn it. The military doesn't just hand those out.
Awardees. Not winners. Those men "won" nothing.
Yea literally any MoH story I've heard I was like "Jfc what an absolute badass no wonder they got the MoH"
Almost all were Pararescue I bet.
@@Mortlupo No.
@@Mortlupo FYI - Only one PJ has received the MOH.
Always so emotionally moved by stories of courageous acts performed by soldiers in the midst of battle.
Getting a knighthood is the real life equivalent of an Instagram blue tick mark
Best comment ever
Makes you an insufferable prick who trys to dictate how everyone should live to them?
Not really man, a knighthood used to mean you now had a duty to the crown, you are now nobility, and must act in such a manner. Knighthoods usually came when you had shown prowess In battle, lizard lady makes a joke of this, musical achievements while imperative to the morale of a culture, doesn't merit a role in the state alone. Actually a knighthood isn't a reward at all, it's the king seeing you aren't a usless pleb and putting you to work to further the kingdom. Basically everyone with any power in a monarchy is a slave to that power, sure you're given land and money and a title, but now you're obliged to answer the king's call, you're obliged to defend his (and by extension the people's) interests, there's a whole different mentality behind monarchy.
As where the MoH seems to be a literal reward for service and sacrifice, it's more akin to the Victoria Cross (usually followed by a knighthood)
10:20 "What a legend"...I love it when Simon gets tickled over what he is reporting.
All I got was an MRE with a V divice for my efforts.
trade you the V device for a packet of peanut butter
I hope it wasn't the MRE with the five fingers of death and dehydrated pears!
Don't disrespect the dehydrated fruit, the fingers of death were horrible true, but the worst thing about the dehydrated fruit was the stomach issues of you had to many of them in a week, but they were not that bad.
Same. But they gave me 10% hearing disability that was "NoT sErViCe ReLaTeD"
Always keep a P-38 on my key ring. Modern MREs aren't that bad. C-rats were better than K-rats for a long, long time.
40 years ago I was in basic at Ft.Jackson.We got stuck on base beautification while doing Reception station when suddenly a sedan pulls up.Out jumped a two star General who called over our drill Sergeant.We all stopped to watch.Sergeant turns around yells for a certain Private.The private runs up salutes the General.General talks to him the Private answers.Private salutes ran back grabbed his rake went back to work.We later found out that Private was a receiver of the Medal of Honor in Vietnam.He was what we called a retread.Someone who gets out ten years later reenlists.The General heard of the Privates resume'decided to personally show up and pull him out of lawn duty.The private told him its where he prefers to be.After reception station we were all assigned to our training companies.Never saw him again.
David Bellavia is a pretty decent guy. I met him in Batavia NY, where we both lived at the time, at a moving Vietnam wall dedication before he received the Medal of Honor. I spoke to him for a few moments but, of course, there were many people who wanted to speak to him.
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He’s a great dude too. Hilarious in fact, when he’s allowed to be candid. He has to watch his mouth a lot now though. Not many men can talk so honest and openly about an insurgent trying to bite his dick off during hand to hand combat. Lol
Im surprised, Simon, you as a brit, didnt also cover the uk equivalent of the Medal of Honour, the Victoria Cross
BTW ... the name for the US MoH is Medal of Honor. I am Canadian but still spell the name of their medal, their way. Good point though.
@@JDS11ify Mate stop embarrassing our country. It's the Congressional Medal of Honor to give its formal title.
@@clothar23 No. Many people think it is but it not. Is simply, the Medal of Honor.
@@BarryKidd Correct, the decoration was never officially named the Congressional Medal of Honor. The reverse of the Army version has "THE CONGRESS TO" and then the recipient's name but the other branches' versions don't. Congress isn't directly involved in deciding who gets the award. It's mostly the Defense Department that assesses the nominations.
Chaplain Liteky a true hero. Saved a lot of people by his own hands and later stood against the bullshit of starting and funding wars.
From the United States constitution:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
I think what you missed is - in theory - a British person could be knighted in the UK, then become an American citizen, join the US military and THEN receive the Medal of Honor. Therefore, it is possible and would not violate the Constitution. Just never happened.
@@matthewhudson5685 Except part of naturalization involves renouncing any foreign titles.
@@TheJTMcDaniel Technically that is correct according to current law, but it is simply part of immigration and naturalization law, not the Constitution. In theory, this law could be overridden by Congress and therefore happen. In fact, it may have already happened.
An unknown British soldier was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor by Gen. Pershing himself. Since he was unidentified there is no way of knowing if he was a knight or not, ergo he may have held both honors.
I'm not stating that under strict reading of US law that it is not allowed as it stands. But, as the video states, it could possibly happen. I do admit, technically you are right. I am just arguing the "what ifs", and in that sense, it is possible. Thank you for your thoughtful response.
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Warrior
Also a possibility, and its mentioned in the video, but a UK military member can serve alongside US forces and be given a Medal of Honor for actions taken during that time, and be knighted.
But, does anyone believe that Congress would deny such an honor to anyone who had received The Medal?
Some of these comments mis-understand what the medal means. Their recipients do not win that medal, they are awarded it for incredible bravery. Also, usually when someone is awarded the MoH it means all their closest friends get fucked up. Killed, critically wounded, etc.
Also, David Bellavia’s book is incredibly good. I bought and read it a year or so after it released, back in like 2007 or so. Highly recommend, it’s named House To House
He's on a documentary video and you see him about to go inside the house he describes in the book.
You don't win a MoH or Purple Heart, and the PH is one no one WANTS.
Also, one of the dirtiest secrets is how many MoH recipients are severely scarred by PTSD, let alone by any physical injuries they may have received.
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I knew he was gonna mispronounce Bellavia’s name too. Lol
Side note- my favorite part of his book is when he’s in the kill house screaming “the power of Christ compels you!” back at the insurgents when they yelled out “Allahu Akbar!” at him. Lol
I really hope that part makes it into the movie.
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The Documentary is called “Only the Dead” by the way. And I think it’s still on Netflix by the way.
Most medals are political, except the Purple Heart . Read about Dougout Doug (Mcarther) and his Medal of Honour.
Cool video. I've never had the honor of meeting a Medal of Honor recipient but I hope they and their families know how much I respect and appreciate their sacrifices.
An interesting note: Both Roosevelts received their medal posthumously but neither died in battle.
President Theodore Roosevelt died of illness in 1919 at age 60 and received his medal in 2001.
Brigadier-General Theodore Roosevelt died of a heart attack at age 56 in his caravan in Normandy in 1944, a little over a month after the landings, and received his medal a few months later. Though some of his peers think that he should only have gotten the Distinguished Service Cross and his death might have played a role in him receiving the higher honour. Which is not to say that he wasn't a complete badass who did more during the landings than anyone could have asked. He literally had to pester his superiors to be allowed to be in the first wave, arguing that it would boost everyones moral because if a general was with them, it can't be that bad.
He also directed traffic while under fire, discovered the troops had landed two miles south of their desiginated landing zone, and was the only general officer to go ashore with the first wave.
Man the medal of honor represents the recipients and alot of time his friends and families worst day ever all of these "perks" I guarantee that every Medal of Honor recipient living or dead would rather give that metal back if it meant his brothers in arms we're still with him and if that day had never happened
Medal of Honor* Show the proper respect.
Some of the "benefits" you list are given to any active duty personnel or retired individuals, such as space "A" flights or Moral, Welfare and Recreation use (many retired become members of the Airmen, NCO or Officers' Club), plus a retired individual can use the Movie Theater, Base Exchange and Commissary for life.
Little known "fact," though awarded posthumously, Theodore Roosevelt still insisted on receiving his Medal of Honor personally. He is quoted as saying "Honor should not be given lightly. To esteem one man to be of great value because of a singular act while ignoring the rest of his record does all men disservice. Yet, if that one act serves as but an example of that record, then the honor serves to inspire all men. I do not reckon my actions to be exceptional. I only aimed to live by those virtues that all men should live by. True, I have faced great adversity, not least of which was clawing my way out of my eighty-two year resting place in order to attend the ceremony. Still, I reckon my actions to be those that should be the common for all men. It is for this reason that I accept this award, not to lift myself above my fellow man, but to exhort him to the same standard."
I am a huge fan of Theodore Roosevelt, and when I tell you that what you wrote sounds exactly like what he would have said, it is meant as high praise indeed and I most sincerely say to you "Bully!"
@@automaticninjaassaultcat3703 I was confused by that, also. I think OP meant some other word, not "posthumously" but I don't know what word he had in mind.
spot on with the MoH "perks". interesting side note. one man, Robert Howard is the only mant to have been recomended for the MoH 3 times. he refused it the first 2 times but reluctantly accepted the third. but you also failed to mention the only woman, (so far), to have been awarded the MoH. Dr Mary Edwards Walker in the Civil War.
I thought Robert L. Howard had first award denied because it was politically embarrassing (we weren't at war with Cambodia--but possibly some other secret limitation.) So he was given a silver star. Then it happened again, he was given a Distinguished service cross. And finally when it happened a third time Nixon said, "Goddamn it give him the medal of honor." Well, more or less.
And they took Dr. Walker's away from her! She had to fight tooth and nail to get it back. Eventually Dr. Walker's medal of honor was reinstated and she was issued a new one. She is buried with one on each side of her lapel!
@@crbrearley yes you are correct. his first 2 MoH recommendations were downgraded to DSC and SS but i read somewhere (and i could be mistaken) that he had requested those downgrades due to the nature of the operations involved. but whatever the case, he's still the only person to be recommended for the MoH 3 times.
@@zoetheexasperatedhistorian2516 One of the reasons that her's was revoked was because she wasn't actually in the military; she was a civilian volunteer. Her MoH wasn't reinstated until 1977, 56 years after she died. She was never required to return the medal and she wasn't buried with it; it is located Oswego, NY. She does have a rather unique situation of the recommending authority for the award was President Johnson., which was one of the reasons why her revocation was controversial.
@@erwin669 There were 8 civilians that received the Medal of Honor. All were rescinded in 1917 but later reinstated with Walkers in 1977 and the others in 1989.
Mary Edwards Walker
William H. Woodall civilian employee-scout. Woodall was with a group of scout spies dressed in Confederate uniforms when they captured Confederate General Rufus Barringer. Woodall captured the general's headquarter's flag.
Martin Freeman - Freeman was at the Battle of Mobile Bay, Alabama. He was the pilot of the Union Flagship. He piloted the Navy's ships into the bay under "terrific" enemy fire
John Ferrell - Ferrell was a civilian in the service of the Union Navy during the Civil War. While acting as a Navy pilot near Nashville, Tennessee, an engagement with Confederates saw the flag of their ship, the Neosho, shot down. Ferrel and the ship's quartermaster ran through the enemy fire to reraise the flag.
William F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody - In 1872, Buffalo Bill was a scout for the U.S. Army during the Indian Wars. He received the medal for gallantry in combat after leading a cavalry charge against a band of Sioux warriors.
Amos Chapman & Billy Dixon - Chapman and Dixon were civilian scouts for the U.S. Army during the Indian Wars of the late 19th century. While working with Lt. Frank Baldwin out of Fort Dodge, he and another civilian scout, Billy Dixon, along with four soldiers, were confronted by a joint force of more than a hundred Comanche and Kiowa warriors. The six retreated to a buffalo wallow, when Dixon was wounded Chapman moved him into the wallow where they all held out for threedys until the Indians left.
James Dozier - Another civilian scout during the Indian Wars, Dozier was awarded the honor for gallantry at the Little Wichita River, Texas in 1870.
Met one MOH Recipient ... A Marine Gunny at Camp Pendleton in 1981. He got it for clearing out NVA machine gun nests by himself despite being wounded. I was a L/Cpl then. I saluted him.
Should of compared it to the Victoria cross
VC winners get
£10,000 per year extra pension
And are exempted for life from paying income taxes
"Hey I don't want the Medal of Honor"
".... We weren't giving it to you anyway"
As usual, the value is in the miscommunication
This just speaks positively of his character, really. He got reccomended for a thing that he and others didn't think he deserved and wanted to be sure to right the percieved error. necrobump ftw
I’m sure constantly being reminded of a horrible experience must be very tough. But people are going to appreciative when they get to meet such people in their own lives. I appreciate this video very much!
Simon, THANK YOU for not saying "Congressional" Medal of Honor or using the terms win and winner. Your descriptions were most accurate as presented.
"Congressional" is correct, and separates the CMoH from the Presidential Medal of Honor, which is awarded to civilians.
@@CasualNotice I must respectfully disagree. There is no such thing as the Congressional Medal of Honor or the Presidential Medal of Honor. There is the Medal of Honor and the Presidential Medal of Freedom. There is also a Congressional Gold Medal. The confusion arises because the Medal of Honor, which was first created by an act of Congress in 1861, is typically presented by the President in the name of the Congress, however, both the President and Congress have limited roles in determining who is nominated or receives it. The nomination process typically begins with a service member being recommended by his immediate superior for consideration. Nominations which are submitted outside the two year time limit for consideration require an act of Congress before they can be accepted for review. In either case the nomination must work its way through various levels of review by the service decoration board, senior decoration board, personnel (manpower), service chief, service secretary, Secretary of Defense, and the President. At any point along the way the medal can be recommended or not recommended. The President has the final say.
@@Paladin1873 Fair enough, and I realized that I had mistitled the Medal of Freedom immediately after the fact, but hadn't gotten around to correcting it.
The medal of honour isn't equivalent to a knighthood it's equivalent to that of the Victoria cross. It's a strange comparison ...
If I recall correctly, the U.K., and the U.S., have each awarded *The V.C., and The MoH to the Unknown Warrior (U.K), and the Unknown Soldier (U.S.),* respectively.
Considering the standards required to receive the MOH, I have no beef whatsoever about the benefits conferred on the recipients.
Also, thank you for getting the name of the medal right by not calling it the "Congressional Medal of Honor."
Far too many people call it that, and it set this veteran's teeth on edge every time I hear it.
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Books In Review are you as careless in your fact checking with your videos about “business success” as you are with your rush to praise Lincoln? Or perhaps you favor the bigger lie of the right-wing that facts are only those things we choose to believe and anything that disrupts one’s own narrative is “fake news”?
@@jpe1 Pot calling the kettle black please. I've never experienced such uniformity in ignorance as I have in talking to democrats. Starting with this whole left / right conceptual fallacy. You know nothing about me what so ever, and yet, I'm betting that you've made all sorts of assumptions about me just for not agreeing with you.
@@Eye_of_a_Texan That's how they are
Eye of a Texan in what way have you disagreed with me? Classic left-wing thinking error is that criticism equals disagreement. My only assumption about you is that you have little practice using logic or rhetoric.
Another perk of the MoH; never having to pay for a drink ever again. Once revealed everyone one in attendance at a bar or function will be wanting to buy the recipient a drink.
Which is as it should be.
Don't think MOH recipients go around bragging in bars for free drinks.
@@shino8854 i would
No doubt the same with the VC - the 'highest' medal in the World.
@Fuck Google ok idc
One recipient I saw an interview of said he didn't consider himself a recipient because he didn't feel the medal belonged to him. He felt it belonged to the guys that he served with. Both those that did and did not come home. So he considered himself a caretaker of the medal. Really changed my perspective on it.
Would the V.C have been a better comparison?
Yeah, i'm surprised they didn't compare to the victoria cross
Or George Cross.
Yes, and I would love to know what the perks of that award are. Also, have there been any VC and MOH awardees?
operator0 only the unknown soldiers have been awarded both. And yes - this is a pointless comparison.
Beat me to it.
I've had the Honor of shaking hands with three MoH recipients. They all seemed a little embarrassed, but then again they just saw it as doing their Duty, and doing what needed to be done.
This is the kind of characteristic that earns someone that medal. I've read the citations for several (the medical department on most US Navy ships will have at least one wall dedicated to the numerous Navy corpsmen who have earned the MoH, usually while serving with the Marines, often posthumously), seen many interviews, and met one man who earned one before I was born. It almost always boils down to "somehow found the superhuman strength to do what had to be done to save _X_ number of his closest friends, in the most hellish conditions imaginable, on the worst day of his life".
I got to meet George Sakato a few years before he passed.
He joked with some iraq/afghan war vets who by all means looked at him like boys seeing superman in person.
Glad to see LtCol Barnum featured!
He was my Battalion Commander at Parris Island in 79. One hell of a Marine and human being.
Theodore Roosevelt, “the manliest man to ever man, splendid! Lmfao!
Kris Fisher he was a boss
The runner up would be Admiral Sir Manley Power just for his name alone.
@James Walker Or the dotard that will replace him in a few months.
Ol' Teddy was all about doing Manly things in a Manly Manner.
I say "Bully man, Bully."
Bully!!
I would hope the medal of honor is better, It's granted for extraordinary bravery.. You can get knighted if you write a good song
True. The comparison should be between the Victoria Cross and the MoH. The criteria for the VC is more strict than the MoH, although both require military bravery of the highest order.
@@JDS11ify I feel like this might start a war... So since I know nothing about the Victorian Cross, I concede
Point being both the VC and MoH are the highest honor in two highly prestigious and powerful nations and a more appropriate comparison (though VC is more exclusive, IIRC the benefits are roughly equivalent)
Indeed the propper comparison to the medal of Honor would be the Victoria Cross
I was once reprimanded and then saluted by my CO in the navy for taking part in a massive brawl with marines lol.
I served in the US Army and my understanding about saluting an individual that has been awarded the Medal of Honor is that they are not saluting the individual but the Medal it self.
Well, that's true of nearly all kinds of saluting. You don't salute the man you salute the commission etc.
Yes, that seemed to be the military's stance when I was in, my personal stance was I saluted the person... and almost 20 years later after my retirement, I still do.
The individual has to have embodied the meaning behind the commendation though, if you take issue with the individual then you take issue with the medal itself or the set of circumstances that led to someone unworthy receiving the honour.
As all salutes, you salute the rank (metal) never the individual.
Damn Charles Liteky was a badass, I admire his strong moral compass and speaking his mind giving up his medals
Want to know of even crazier? Try Jack Churchill - came off of landing boats in WW2, playing the bagpipes & armed with a sword!
@@davidwallin7518 And no underwear under his kilt I think too.
@@Mortlupo Is there any other way?
Interesting to learn that the saluting of MoH recipients is just informal tradition. I was stationed at Ft. Myer (Arlington) and we saluted MoH recipients as well as their tombstones when passing.
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@ Care to explain what is grammatically incorrect with, "You are hired!" If your are going to be a member of the grammar gestapo, you need to be able to explain/justify/defend your interjection!
@ Now there is egg on my face and an apology in order. First the apology. Missed the edit/correction on the part of Michael which makes your post appear to be an invalid one. Sorry that I jumped onto your correction little realizing that it was valid.
As to the egg on my face. In my haste to make my post, I failed to take the time to proof read it well enough thus setting myself up for correction of "your are." Rather embarrassing to say the least. Maybe a good lesson in thinking twice before one sets out to correct others.
I appreciate that your reply to my post was in a civil manner, much more so than mine.
Best and have a good day.
@ Wow, a misunderstanding in a RUclips post worked out like reasonable adults. They must be putting on their ice skate in hell!
The medal is not Awarded, or even worse “rewarded”
These medals are “Received”
nuff said it’s a weird thing I’ll bet, having everyone swoon over you due to something that you feel was just “helping my brothers-in-arms” wouldn’t you do the same?
Most would like to think so, reminds me of a scene that played out on Blackhawk Down, when sgt. Struecker told the private to “save your K-Bar” or when Shugart and Gordon (both MoH recipients) were asked by Gen Garrison if they understood what they were asking when they asked to be dropped in to save Mike Durant, even though they didn’t even know if there were survivors. Those guys were Delta Force btw.
Wrong! It's an award, and each medal a person is awarded, counts toward their "award points" when competing for advancement in rank. Military Fact!
@Robin Elliot He received the award. An award is a recognition. He was recognized for his heroism and bravery. The hero is almost always humble about it. For the hero, he was doing what felt right and needed at the time. It is the rest of us that recognize the heroism. It is not necessary for the hero to recognize it. The humble, unselfishness is a huge part of the recognition we give (award) to the recipient. He receives the award (the giving), usually just as humbly as he earned it.
Well...one receives all medals? I think not....they are awards.
I'm a retired military veteran. Every medal earned is presented with an "award" letter. As it is being awarded to the service member, surviving spouse, or other family survivor, the award letter is read by the presenter. Military Fact. The letter even states that the service member is being awarded the medal.
You and your family can also use Space A (available) if you are active military or if you are retired military and flying with your spouse and children under the age of 18 (unless that child is enrolled in a university and has their student ID). Just to note too, we are talking about flying on a military plane made for transport of heavy materials and personnel. In most cases its a C-110 you will be on with no insulation to keep the noise. From experience I suggest insert earplugs with headphones over top of them.
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**sniff** beautiful... I so love poetry...
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“I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot.” And then goes on to give his speech anyway.
That sounds like something TR would say!
@CR Oh no, it's very well documented, it's how he started his speech: "FRIENDS, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible. I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose." en.wikisource.org/wiki/Progressive_Cause_Greater_Than_Any_Individual
When I was a teenager I was going to a July 4th fireworks display in Philadelphia. It was early evening and while walking down a major street, an older man with a few medals on his jacket was approaching. One of his medals was the Victoria Cross (the only one I recognized). As the distance closed, I took off my cap and said, "Good evening, sir". He just said, "Good evening...thank you". Sure made my day!
In some countries, a recepient of their respective Medal of Honor only gives them...recognition, nothing else.
Most countries are not as rich as the USA.
Robert L. Howard was nominated for the MoH three times. He turned it down the first two because it is typically a career ending medal and he was too busy stacking bodies at C&C with MAC V SOG. After the third nomination the Army told him his massive balls were beginning to make the other men feel inferior and forced the then Lieutenant to take the award.
I had heard that about other members of the military , even those of higher rank, saluted the MOH recipient s , but had never seen it in writing before. Thanks for sharing
My great grandfather rejected every medal he received. (He fought in several wars. Even wrote a book)
His reason? He didn't fight for a piece of metal. He fought to keep his men alive.
That should always be the reason
With honor, you don't need a medal. I respect any man with your grandfather's conviction. What is the name of his book? I want to buy it.
God Bless your great grandfather, unfortunately Men like him are of a different & Rare breed that no longer exists in a true sense...again God Bless your great grandfather who I Salute & Thank him from the bottom of my heart for his service to this Nation 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yes, What is the title of your grandfather’s book?
@@jerrybiv1441 I'm former Army and I can tell you that men like him still exist and serve, but all too often they come home with so much PTSD, the rest of their lives are often obscured by a wound they can never heal.
A knighthood isn't compatible to a medal of honour though, the British MOH is the Victoria cross as they're are specifically military, there are US equivalents better to knighthoods
My grandfather was a recipient. He stressed it wasn’t won or awarded, but received and worn on behalf of those that didn’t come back. He survived because of the snow. Freezing stopped bleeding, and he would not have survived. I grew up around many recipients because he was active in veterans issues in retirement and took us with him over the summer and school breaks. All humble great people. None of them wanted the medal or to experience that thrust them into the situation, they were all relatively ordinary people that responded to awful situations in an extraordinary manner. And those are the survivors.
So called "war heroes" are ordinary men doing extra-ordinary deeds. Nothing more, nothing less.
While doubtful it was intended as such, I would like to point out that there is nothing lowly about being a sergeant. They are the backbone of every fighting force on earth. Ask any rifleman.
Probably more relevant to compare to the VC, considering you can get a knighthood for things nowhere near as impressive
David Bellevia is from my very small (