Warcraft 2 vs Remake: Similar Cinematics Compared
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- In this video I compare the cinematics of Warcraft 2 with the equivalent cutscenes of the remake called "Warcraft: Chronicles of the Second War". The remake uses the Warcraft 3 engine. Which implementation do you prefer?
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 The Attack on Stromgarde - Original
00:01:53 The Attack on Stromgarde - Remake
00:03:08 Orcs being Orcs - Original
00:03:29 Orcs being Orcs - Remake
00:03:47 War Turtles in Action - Original
00:03:59 War Turtles in Action - Remake
00:04:19 The Tomb of Sargeras - Original
00:04:50 The Tomb of Sargeras - Remake
00:05:14 The Fall of Lordaeron - Original
00:06:16 The Fall of Lordaeron - Remake
#warcraft2 #chroniclesofthesecondwar #csw #warcraftcsw 
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For the full story of "Warcraft: Chronicles of the Second War": ruclips.net/video/aWjQKiHlKPk/видео.html
Tbh W2 only needs some polishing and upscaling I say.
But it's quite respectful, how W3 Reforged is actually being used for something good.
not a problem with an RX amd card
Someone at Blizz must be "why do we have a spike of sold Warcraft 3 reforged?"
Yes, Blizzard should pay the fan developers a cut for this.
If they have a sale rn for Reforged I'd buy it
correct! I refunded my copy and rebought in early 2023 anticipating this.
Meanwhile also in Blizz "we don't know!!"
lol
A friend of mine just bought the game after I showed him this mod.
Ah, yes, back when Azeroth was a kingdom and not a whole world, that is my sauce...
Intro is just not the same without Bill Roper's iconic narration.
Also, I liked originak soundtrack much better.
It's the most impressive thing I saw made in Reforged nonetheless.
Warcraft 1 and 2 didn't tell much of a story in cutscenes
But this remake mod did
These modders are doing better than Blizzard
Mods are successful 10% of the time, but when they are they do better than the devs 100% of the time
The cutscenes in original warcraft 2 are a piece of art
@@joseffranz3872 well we got to remember that these people do it all for free and during their freetime. Thats why its rare to see such high quality such as this and Black Mesa for example
I think the fact that they didn't tell much made it that much better and suspenseful.
I disagree, this only compares the original game cutscenes to the versions in the remake. The modders in the remake have way more cutscenes here and they go on FOREVER. It is the definition of expository lore dumps. I don't feel like I'm playing a game, I feel like I'm dealing with an interactive Wikipedia writeup. Furthermore, the OG CG is way better then what's on display here given what tech they had. The CG has that early 90s look that is unique for what it is. The lighting is really bad in the new remake. The tomb scene looks awful.
To be honest, I prefer the originals. The character models might be incredibly dated, but in terms of cinematography/shot composition, the originals cut scenes are far better.
Well yeah because they are actually done by a professional dev team...
@@vadar6255 Back when blizzard could be considered professional
@@GhostPlaysX Lol its still professional, I just think their direction is different. Quality probably mattered a lot more back then given lack of sufficient animation and fluid gameplay.
I might be wrong but isn't warcraft 2 cinematic actual animations? Instead of game assets being put together.
yepp
Well, hard to say, because original cinematics been render animations and Remake ones - in-game engine.
Original’s is more movie like, and Remake’s is pretty immersive.
the war turtles in original is piece of art
If we compare the atmosphere of those cinematics with the DF cinematics, good Lord, how this became so childhish.
Underpaid terminally online twitter activist millennials in the writing staff and adhd zoomer furries in the target audience.
Dragonflight's version of this would probably be a whole scene where the king laments the fall of his kingdom and then one of his subjects shouts, "Together!!!, for Azeroth"
I prefer the original its not about the looks, but the narration for example, its peak childhood memory time.
This was made all in-engine with the editor? That's quite impressive
AMAZING WORK
Both? Both. Both! Both is good.
Agree
I'm all in for a remake or a remaster of this game
Astonishing work!
Well that something we don't see often in Warcraft game: Pirate-style orcs. Just like in the Warcraft 2 box art along with a Imperial-style human, even though the game is set in the medieval age. May be due to the new ship warfare that Warcraft 1 didn't have.
It's really cool! I will say though that one feels like a cinematic, the other feels like an in-game cutscene. But for what it is, it's great, and it serves its purpose very well.
those 90's vibs cinematic are the best i swear remind me medievil cinematic
Como se extraña cuando Warcraft era una historia era mas sencilla.
Orco vs humanos
Paladines de luz 🌟
vs
adoradores de demonios, hechiceros y eso 😈
Ojala hagan un remake del 1 y el 2
Strange feels, original looks like life, remake looks like game!
The art direction has changed greatly over the years.
Originals had more variation in motion while the remakes were more stiff and robotic
Original W1 and W2 had an atmosphere that where similar to Diablo 1. More serious and mature. When it went cartoon it turned to sh. Original cinematic are better.
Well the ingame graphics of WC2 were actually already really colorful/cartoonish, it was just in the pre-rendered cinematics as well as Metzen's drawings where the artstyle was darker and more close to Diablo
@@Balnazzardi I had no problem with ingame graphics in wc2. They did not brake atmosphere for me. Even WC3 was good for me, but that was wen cartoon look started. I think they went from games for grown up audience to kids. You cant portray a serious theme with cartoon characters. All that Styrofoam swords and cartoon armor destroyed the atmosphere. Turned it to TV novella for kids.
Cool video but as a lore nerd i have to ask why did you use Stromgarde soldiers to man the wall instead of Lordaeron?
Because that cinematic shows the fall of the Kingdom of Azeroth to the Orcish Horde. Lore-wise, the colour of Azeroth is orange. The first human mission in the game happen after Azeroth refugee migrated to Lordaeron and form the Alliance, which is why human units in that mission wear wear Lordaeron's blue.
Also you have to remember that in Warcraft 2, there is only 2 human kingdom in existence, which is Azeroth and Lordaeron, so Stormgarde technically didn't exist. Due to amnesia, Blizzard renamed the Kingdom of Azeroth to Stormwind in Warcraft 3. They literally forgot the name of the kingdom and instead pick the Stormwind simply because that is the final town of Azeroth that the Alliance liberated and therefore was mentioned directly in cinematics.
@@13gan Orange was the Kingdom of Alterac. You are mistaken about there being only 2 human kingdoms. Remember how at the end of Warcraft 2 King Perenold in Alterac betrayed the humans and let the orcs pass the mountain pass, If there are only 2 human kingdoms like you said, then how was there Kul'Tiras, Gilneas and Alterac. I think you should respectfully go back and learn the lore more before commenting.
Honestly, love the effort, but the render stutter from the reforged engine rework really shows. But love the fan made effort.
I appreciatee the effort for sure, but like the first one better oddly. Maybe cause there is no narration in the 2nd?
5:05 This music from TBC?
RIP King Terenas.
No se porq pero antes le ponian cariño a las cinematicas , las vez y no se si es la ambientacion , la musica o los buenos graficos( para ese tiempo eran graficos buenos) pero te da ganas de jugar toda la campaña
Clearly prefer the old one. As well done the mod is, it is still ingame engine that holds it back from being an actual cinematic, so that is already a point to WC2. WC2 is also just the original and more nostalgic, so another point for them~
There is a special dark atmosphere in the original ones, the mod did not save that. But still a very good job😘
War3 is a lot more cartooney. War2 has this semi-realistic, brownish gritty feel, comparable to D1 and Draenor with its mushroom trees having
Reminds me of why I used to love warcraft. Before, everyone was "good" and it was about war. Not let's sit and understand each other.
I just hope there will be a good wc3 remaster in a 10 years or later
unlikely but it would be cool if modders could get permission to use the og narration audio for their versions of the cinimatics.
I like the classic original when warcraft was dark and gritty and trying to be serious. The horde was evil and didn't need some backstop and motivation. They saught the downfall of man and man just wanted to survive. Orcs didn't have feelings. They just zug zug.
i prefer the original as it still has the originality because its original and has the originality
Monch 🐢
Sorry me to for the original, spirit is lost in production.
I would buy this!
How can we play w2 now? Any opportunity?
They actually just added it to the Blizzard store. It's cheap. $10.
yay
some comments seem not to take into consideration the fact that the videos in the mod are made with the graphics and animations of the game, so inevitably they are less "realistic" and less "dark" graphically. If anything I would be surprised at the incredible result achieved...
Is it a fandom right?
i can buy it ?
Using ingame models and the cinematic tools have its drawbacks, the camerawork is much poorer compared to the old cinematics and the animations ironically feel more stiff
But I appreciate what is accomplished, though if possible it might be better for someone to animate the scenes with the ingame assets rather than use the World Editor camera and built-in unit animations
You’re asking a lot for a small passionate team and the drawbacks come from how unoptimized the game is from the Blizzard developers so the HiveWorkShop team can only work with what the engine offers and they also pushed the world editor passed it’s limits which is highly impressive considering how much the editor needs improvement and fixing.
@@vmac8972 I assumed you can insert custom cinematics into custom campaigns but if that's isn't the case the team has my condolences cause that just sucks
@@alex_ho
You can, but that'd probably cost them too much.
@@thepieofyourlife4799 on the bright side, they do have the models for a cinematic
So that's like, 1 part down, the whole animating part they'll probably need to hire somebody else to do so, which would be expensive
Their best bet is for someone with the experience and passion to do it for free
Prefer the original, but the remake is ABSOLUTELY faithful and an excellent recreation of the original, so I can't fault anyone for preferring the newer version. Both get top marks!
Сколько лорных лет прошло между 1-2 и 3 варкрафтом? Разве их амуниция не должна выглядеть по-другому?
Kool vid
Thanks!
The cinematography of the old game was better. You can feel the dread, hopelessness, and fear in the humans. While the newer videos are too lighted, the humans look more like movie set props.
The orcs look more like marauding monsters in the first game. And look too human in the new trailer.
But it's just a preference.
How to play remake Warcraft 2? It’s mod for Warcraft reforged?
Yes, you need Warcraft 3 Reforged first. Then you can download the mod for free here:
www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/chronicles-of-the-second-war-tides-of-darkness.327574/
@@GameIntrosFinales thx
This whole thing alone is already better than all of that fcuked up Reforged BS
They should've kept the narration
The origonal was a CGI cutscene, in remake looks like they just repurposed models for clunky cinimatics.
Cannon stuffers are long two handed things, not some kind of one handed thing.
Everything is wow cartoonified.
I vote for old version
Some of vanilla WoW models are from 1995, the dude's armor and a sword at 6:01 at least.
4:40 original "random demon" looks way more scary than the remake almost-human-faced cow dude. The latter is more detailed for sure, just missing the point.
He Is just a random demon. Not Sargeras
@@Sebalarios corrected :D it still stays :)
But Terenas did not fall against The orcs...
Orcs campaign are not canon in warcraft 2, well kinda
Dabu!ZugZug
how to download game
I think the warcraft series cost money and are to be purchased online and it's a PC game
That is not Terenas...That is King Llane Wrynn
No, it was always terenas. Llane Wrynn die at the end of Warcraft 1
I prefer the originals to the in game remakes, mostly due to the voice lines being gone and Terenas looks like he's going to make a final noble stand as opposed to being absolutely terrified in the original. However the Demon and Turtle ones are really well done
Orcs got a lot of characterization on the remake, only fair humans get some too. Terenas going out swinging is much more in line with his character than pathetically wimping away
Personally, I still prefer the original. All the cutscenes playout like an actual movie (in glorious 480p lol) in the original, where as the remake just looks stiff, twitchy, and awkward because its just running from the game engine.
original are more consistant i think.
Looks like demake not remake
wait there is a Warcraft II remake?
Yes, make by fans in Warcraft reforged
THe OG movie version is better in lmost all respects (in large part because of the voice acting and smoothness of actions outside of the game engine.However the fan RM includes far more actual characters and while the looks are worse and they lack voice acting They feel more in line with the further characterization both races and their leaders gained over the course of even just War3 let alone WoW. I will say the only scene that is overall improved is the fall of Lordaeron mostly because of how much better they portrayed Teranas/the generic human king.
But the orcs diden't take Lordaeron.
There's Orc campaign in WC2 that's not canon and ended up by orcs winning and taking Lordaeron
if the orcs won Wc2, people will not be whining on how WOW turned out
But why make that? Like they should make an alternetive lore by having Arthas not cull Stratholme then else it's horde bias.@@MrSergore
It'd Lordaeron, where now the Undeads live, not Stormwind.
huh?@@acb1511
To each their own. I prefer the original cinematics. I respect the fans that put alot of work into making this, but the warcraft 3 reforged engine can not compete with real cinematics imo.
Hold on, I thought it was King Llane who was killed during the events of Warcraft II in the Orc Ending, not Terenas. Terenas doesn't die until Arthas kills him during Warcraft III.
The fall of Lorderan cinematic is not canon. This is just what would have happened if the horde had won the 2nd war. But canonically they lost that battle.
the siege and the battle are canonical, it is the victory of the orcs that is not canonical, in the remake version however it was made "canonical" since the campaign ends with the ongoing battle
I prefer the original game's cutscenes, even if they're a bit dated. A lot of the voice lines in the originals had a little bit more 'oomph' to 'em, and I really don't care for the World of Warcraft-compliant art style the modders went with.
Is it bad, that I still prefer the original?
Original cinematic is better
Honestly the originals are better acted.
Original is superior by far.
Original: Excellent!
Remake: ...... Snore.
original is better
Looks worse than the original. Well done.
Call me a nostalgic curmudgeon, but I kinda prefer the original. While the remake feels more like a reenactment with Machinima. A good reenactment, but the word "remake" doesn't feel fair, and doesn't do it any favors.
Remake cinematic is bad I'm sorry.
O wow these are terrible. I hate it with my black heart. Pure junk, zero atmosphere, the original edge is lost. I’d just leave the originals if that’s the result, honestly.
remake looks like shit with those basic animations in the fall of Lordaeron, the original has character.
I hate what WoW did to the art style and setting of Warcraft.
Great for all the new people who enjoy it I guess but please, you don't need to "modernize" the old stuff, especially not the art style and put hours of boring dialog cutscenes in it. You're not making it better, you're just taking it and pushing your own stuff in it.
If you can't like WC1 and WC2 for what they were, just keep sticking to your own thing.
I grew up in those days playing games and I honestly can’t stand how outdated they are. They were great for their time, but non-immersive by gaming standards for the past 20+ years. Not enjoyable but love the lore and setting, and this shit nails it completely in a more fleshed out in-depth story that tells it better than the originals. And when Beyond the Dark Portal comes out you going to complain about Troll’s not being on Outland/Draenor even though they aren’t even from there. That was lore breaking from the original and this fixes that by replacing them with Orc spear throwers. It’s more thought out compared to the original yet respective the the story. Stop whining over petty nonsense…
Awful Warcraft 3 innacurate style with cinematic glitches (brushes for cannon barrels are not in barrels), non authentical ships and so on. Other movies are also ugly.
New movies should be made using only SGI, not Warcraft 3 engine.
This is just a fan project using the wc3 editor mate.
Dont touch the classic game please, you make enough in 3d game series , thx
down voted
Stop gatekeeping.
Miserable creature
dufuq?
Boy shut yo dumb gatekeepin ass up
Fan-like Remake