Sometimes manufacturers don't think about practicality or simply just a cost saving measure on things one doesn't think about when buying the bike. Glad to see some love with the Bonneville.
If your worried about allen keys scratching things, if you order something with exposed threads, they often come with a little luminous green thread protector thing on them, I often put on of these over the short end of the allen key for protection, they don't fit on all sizes of allen keys, but every little helps
Yeah ive dont that kind of thing, even used heat shrink on them for that same effect....but you shouldn't have to really, its a £7k bike with a 50p seat fitting design... "must-try-harder" Triumph.... and in the next few of these videos, we have a few more to come as well...
Sorry didn't mean as a permanent solution for this situation, the screws you've added seem ideal, just mentioning it as a handy tip for other potentially scratchy situations
I've seen a lot of that on my Striple as well! The oil filler cap on the triple was a cheap piece of injection molded high temp plastic. It didn't fit right and was a pain in the ass to get it back in after taking it out. I had to used my die set to trim the threads down to where they should be. I have replaced the filler cap and dip stick with red anodized billet aluminum since. Got quite a few more odds and ends to replace as well.
Thanks Del for another great video. Can't say how much you've helped me with the basics since I got my new (to me) 2009 Scrambler. You've also helped my bank account with your tips and advice. Keep up the great work, and all the best to you and Penny from a fan in Canada-Paul
Hi Paul, it makes us so glad to hear that... to be able to save you money and empower you to maintain your own bike is exactly what we set out to do... so mission accomplished! Ride safe my friend, thanks Del
Nicely made and well thought through, as you say, it's a shame Triumph couldn't boast that about all aspects of the modern Bonnie. They've only had 14 years to refine those issues after all!
"only had 14 years to refine those issues after all" Do i detect a smidgen of sarcasm in you tone Mr G?.......you forget that all vehicles are designed by accountants..
The factory bolts do have 1 benefit, they're such a bugger to undo that no one will bother trying to nick ya seat. Nice to see Penny's keeping the bike.
You'd think so....but they aren't actually hard to remove...provided you dont care about your paint work...which a thief wont..!!!! Penny's chuffed to keep the bike, in the end there are no proper buyers about and too many other bikes for sale...and the exercise served in the end, to confirm how much she loves it....
yeah, kinda daft aye...but then Harley have their fare share of 'Friday afternoon ideas' too, like brakes that dont work and suspension from the Ark...and then they sell you the stuff that actually works with SE stamped on it...clever Harley...lol
Hi Del. First off great vids.....I got the side & seat fixings, but found that the Knurl chewed the seat cover, so cobbled together my own from 40mm stainless bolts and wingnuts, (50mm would be better) still fiddly when you've got a sissy bar though. Don't get me started on Triumph design,...ignition switch position, seat (hard & got the gel one, not a lot different) ...Today I've fitted the new waxed cotton saddlebags (thanks 3X)......mmmm, don't think Triumph tried to do it themselves, instructions (wrong), new screws (too short), clip fixings, (awkward) underseat flaps (could design them out)......Keep up the good work......Thinking about shocks. Russ (Ringwood Hants)
Hi Russ, I know what you mean about Motone's knurling, it is hellishly sharp, so here's a trick... pop the bolt in the chuck of your electric drill, thread first, and careful not to squash the threads... clamp the drill in the vice and spin the drill up to full speed and lock it off... then hold some medium grit emery cloth against the knurling to knock 50% of it's depth off... this will make it far softer and less likely to chew your vinyl... As you're in Ringwood, isn't it about time you joined our forum! Here's a link... bikers.boards.net/... make 5 posts and then the rideouts/meets will be accessible... we've a big ride for 50 of us in 2 weeks, be great to have you along mate!
Very neat stuff Del, they look a lot better to. Seems a shame that we have to find a way around the manufacturers stupidity though! Its good to see the Bonnie staying in the fleet =)
I cant seem to find the website for some reason. Any chance I could get a link? Great videos and I have been looking for something just like this. I hate the stupid rounded alen bolts
Just want to say hi and great work!! I'm not a bike rider myself but I love watching your videos and all the ideas that you come up with are just great, keep up the good work and can't wait for the next vid...
Hi Gurbachan, here is the link to the company, check out their whole web site, many parts you will like.. www.tecbikeparts.com/products/models/triumph-air-cooled-2000-2015-models/scrambler-900/bodywork-scrambler-900/
You didn't put the "collars" from the stock seat bolts on the new longer ones! Wouldn't that allow the rear of the seat to shift around? I have 2 of these Triumphs and wouldn't change the stock set-up; wasting money here.
hi moonfleet do you have to have side panels on ya bike. because hi am chopping my cb750 and the side panels have just about had it so i have bined them. do i have to make some more for the MOT ;-)
I've not used 6061 T6 before, turns out it's used for chopper blades (the flying type). very tidy upgrade, sounds like Triumph ran out of time and money towards the end of the design and rushed it. shame. well at least you can mod the bike to sort out all the sillyness. is it worth replacing the tail light with something a bit tidyer? RSMF
Hi Leon, it is indeed pukka air craft grade stuff, which makes them well worth the money... the reason we haven't changed the back light unit is that I've had my eye on a really beautiful minature Lucas replica unit that's identical to the steel 60's lights and they come with tiny indicators included, all made from billet, but they are pretty expensive, so will probably save them for next year and do both bikes at once... you are right, it is the daftest back light ever, but it's worth the wait!
Bloody hell, thats smashing and really good quality :-)) The thumbscrew and alan hex just makes so much sense. Even a longer bolt and spacer would have worked well, but triumph just cheaped out really bad, dam shame. I thought inverse slots for the side panals but when you took the new extended thumbscrew bolts from the packet oow nice :-))
They are the kind of farkles you just enjoy fitting because they are so nicely made and cleverly worked out.... shame Triumph make them necessary aye..
nice little extras :) Be heading down your way in a week with a couple of mates, on are yearly summer outing, the A39 looks a nice road round the coast line, probably make are way round there, then spend a few days working are way along the south coast line, any tips on must see places on a bike would be appreciated :)
If you're starting in the west country (A39), then you absolutely have to ride through the moors, the thousand year old scenery you won't see anywhere else in the country, other than in moorland... drop down to Captain Jasper's at Plymouth Harbour, a great biker meet, West Bay nr. Bridport 'on any Sunday', and Poole Quay on Tuesday nights for 1000+ bikes every week... enjoy your trip mate, Del
Alright bud - liking the additions - practical and very nicely made by the looks of things - nice one - hope ya both well - aint been about recently had a stint at the local NHS hotel, lovely heh... have fun keep safe - cheers - Nige
No storage at all mate, just flat rails and a battery (plus other related plugs n fittings)... the last bike i had with a key and hinges was an XS650... but that before your time id say fellah... !
Hello again Both :-) So you didn't sell the Bonny in the end then?!! Good news I guess, as long as Penny still has the funds she needed for the business... Have you still got the scrambler too?
Yeah, Scrambler still safe in the stable, it was just a plan but with the bike being just 12 months old, there is too much competition from the main dealers who sell the used demos with extras on and can offer part exchange and finance...you'll never compete with that aye.... happy to keep it and enjoy it as we put a lot into it.. Thanks for watching Martin, good to hear form you.. Del.
Moonfleet41 Understand what you mean mate. Hope that means Penny hasn't had to miss out on the funds she needed for her work. Great news though that you've kept the Bonny and the Scrambler! Hopefully see you all on a meet somewhere soon. Take care.
I think Triumph suffer with the same condition as Harley.....its called "Feedback Deafness"....but hey, you can go on the Triumph website and buy them as extras....how thoughtful of them....lol
Too many dealers selling 12 month old models and offering part exchange and finance facilities... cant compete with that buddy, happy to keep it as they dont de-value, so its a sound investment.....
Good bit of boltage there! TBH it looks like Triumph may have gone for looks rather than function in some areas on the Bonnie. Also, did I miss a vid -I thought you got rid of the Pennyville? Not that I'm complaining, she's a beaut! :o)
Hi Lasty... no, the Pennyville is still with us, there are too many 12 month old bikes in the dealers for sale with P/X deals and finance, cant compete with that ,and not many buyers have the cash for a bike that new...so she's just riding and enjoying it again... which makes me very happy..
Didnt find the right buyer Andy, too many dealers selling 12 month old demo bikes with finance and P/X option,... not too many buyers out there with enough cash for a year old bike...so happy to keep it and keep making it better..
Moonfleet41 Nice one mate, sounds like a good move, keep up the good work with the Vids, as someone who likes to maintain my own bikes its good to have your videos as a reference when that little bit of doubt creeps in!
We did roll it through Ebay, but too many dealers offering finance and part-ex... it's always hard to sell a 12month old bike privately... so it's stays!
Troll on brother.... its gonna be daft as a brush when its done... and this bike was built in Thailand...but the dufus who thought up the design is firmly in the Midlands...!
Read a few of the messages below Alex... one of the hardest kinds of sale to make is a 12 month old bike privately... people expect, at that price range, to have part-ex and finance facilities, so can't compete with the dealers...
Just ordered those bits for my Scrambler. As you know the scrambler pipe are a little in the way to get to where you need to put the oil in. So today I was in my local auto parts (Blue Spruce) place that sells everything. I was looking around for stuff I don't need and came across drum brake adjustment tool which turns out to be a perfect fit and works great. Still love Triumph . till the always ride safe and don't let the bastards win
Hi David, well done mate, its good kit, and you'll be chuffed with it when it arrives... good find on the oil cap tool....but if you want an upgrade then TEC Bike Parts to a trick CNC turned 19mm nut head replacement... take care buddy... Del.
Thanks Glen, i think thats what swayed it anyway, its never easy to sell a bike thats less than a year old, too much competition from the dealers who can offer part exchange and finance...both of which most people need...
Sometimes manufacturers don't think about practicality or simply just a cost saving measure on things one doesn't think about when buying the bike. Glad to see some love with the Bonneville.
Thanks mate, you're right there, bikes designed by the accountants...
If your worried about allen keys scratching things, if you order something with exposed threads, they often come with a little luminous green thread protector thing on them, I often put on of these over the short end of the allen key for protection, they don't fit on all sizes of allen keys, but every little helps
Yeah ive dont that kind of thing, even used heat shrink on them for that same effect....but you shouldn't have to really, its a £7k bike with a 50p seat fitting design... "must-try-harder" Triumph.... and in the next few of these videos, we have a few more to come as well...
Sorry didn't mean as a permanent solution for this situation, the screws you've added seem ideal, just mentioning it as a handy tip for other potentially scratchy situations
I've seen a lot of that on my Striple as well! The oil filler cap on the triple was a cheap piece of injection molded high temp plastic. It didn't fit right and was a pain in the ass to get it back in after taking it out. I had to used my die set to trim the threads down to where they should be. I have replaced the filler cap and dip stick with red anodized billet aluminum since. Got quite a few more odds and ends to replace as well.
Thanks Del for another great video. Can't say how much you've helped me with the basics since I got my new (to me) 2009 Scrambler. You've also helped my bank account with your tips and advice. Keep up the great work, and all the best to you and Penny from a fan in Canada-Paul
Hi Paul, it makes us so glad to hear that... to be able to save you money and empower you to maintain your own bike is exactly what we set out to do... so mission accomplished! Ride safe my friend, thanks Del
Nicely made and well thought through, as you say, it's a shame Triumph couldn't boast that about all aspects of the modern Bonnie. They've only had 14 years to refine those issues after all!
"only had 14 years to refine those issues after all" Do i detect a smidgen of sarcasm in you tone Mr G?.......you forget that all vehicles are designed by accountants..
Good tip about the bolts Del, popped them in them drill and run a file over them. Abit more forgiving now. Cheers Russ
Thanks so much for your reviews and tech support.
Thanks Mark, glad thr videos can help you mate..
Glad that Penny's keeping My favorite bike.Give it a couple of years, who knows, maybe I'll buy it!!!
Love these nice touches, subtle but make a big difference
Yeah, still sticks in yer neck a bit having to put right what the factory obviously did in a Friday....aye..!!!!lol
Keeping the Bonnie! more projects for us to watch and enjoy, hoorah cheers Del & Penny
The factory bolts do have 1 benefit, they're such a bugger to undo that no one will bother trying to nick ya seat. Nice to see Penny's keeping the bike.
You'd think so....but they aren't actually hard to remove...provided you dont care about your paint work...which a thief wont..!!!! Penny's chuffed to keep the bike, in the end there are no proper buyers about and too many other bikes for sale...and the exercise served in the end, to confirm how much she loves it....
Well done, very good switch out !!! I agree, have never understood this design.
Ride Safe.....
yeah, kinda daft aye...but then Harley have their fare share of 'Friday afternoon ideas' too, like brakes that dont work and suspension from the Ark...and then they sell you the stuff that actually works with SE stamped on it...clever Harley...lol
100% Correct, lol
Hi Del. First off great vids.....I got the side & seat fixings, but found that the Knurl chewed the seat cover, so cobbled together my own from 40mm stainless bolts and wingnuts, (50mm would be better) still fiddly when you've got a sissy bar though. Don't get me started on Triumph design,...ignition switch position, seat (hard & got the gel one, not a lot different) ...Today I've fitted the new waxed cotton saddlebags (thanks 3X)......mmmm, don't think Triumph tried to do it themselves, instructions (wrong), new screws (too short), clip fixings, (awkward) underseat flaps (could design them out)......Keep up the good work......Thinking about shocks. Russ (Ringwood Hants)
Hi Russ, I know what you mean about Motone's knurling, it is hellishly sharp, so here's a trick... pop the bolt in the chuck of your electric drill, thread first, and careful not to squash the threads... clamp the drill in the vice and spin the drill up to full speed and lock it off... then hold some medium grit emery cloth against the knurling to knock 50% of it's depth off... this will make it far softer and less likely to chew your vinyl...
As you're in Ringwood, isn't it about time you joined our forum! Here's a link... bikers.boards.net/... make 5 posts and then the rideouts/meets will be accessible... we've a big ride for 50 of us in 2 weeks, be great to have you along mate!
You could paint the seat bolts black and they will blend in under the edge of the seat.
Nice one Dell. Great ideas, and I agree with you promote local businesses.
Thanks mate, gotta look after the local boys..
nice bit of glitter & sensible bolts.
Very neat stuff Del, they look a lot better to. Seems a shame that we have to find a way around the manufacturers stupidity though!
Its good to see the Bonnie staying in the fleet =)
Sure is mate, im happy its staying in the stable now... ans yeah, shame the factory designs things for cash profit and not common sense..
Wonderful bike. Thanks for sharing mate.
I cant seem to find the website for some reason. Any chance I could get a link? Great videos and I have been looking for something just like this. I hate the stupid rounded alen bolts
Sorted it mate, link in the description under the video... tell 'em we said hi..!
Just want to say hi and great work!! I'm not a bike rider myself but I love watching your videos and all the ideas that you come up with are just great, keep up the good work and can't wait for the next vid...
Thank you most kindly Sir, its a pleasure to receive such nice comments... appreciate you watching and hope you enjoy them.. take care, Del.
Hi Del.... Wonderful video... From where I can get seat screws... Very practical.
Hi Gurbachan, here is the link to the company, check out their whole web site, many parts you will like.. www.tecbikeparts.com/products/models/triumph-air-cooled-2000-2015-models/scrambler-900/bodywork-scrambler-900/
Side pod ones are cool, but the ones under the seat I'm not sure about as they will rub???
+Ariel GB They dont rub to any ill effect..!
You didn't put the "collars" from the stock seat bolts on the new longer ones! Wouldn't that allow the rear of the seat to shift around? I have 2 of these Triumphs and wouldn't change the stock set-up; wasting money here.
hi moonfleet do you have to have side panels on ya bike. because hi am chopping my cb750 and the side panels have just about had it so i have bined them. do i have to make some more for the MOT ;-)
Del thought you were selling the Bonnie on or have i missed something lol.... Or did you offload the scrambler instead of the bonnie
I've not used 6061 T6 before, turns out it's used for chopper blades (the flying type).
very tidy upgrade, sounds like Triumph ran out of time and money towards the end of the design and rushed it. shame. well at least you can mod the bike to sort out all the sillyness. is it worth replacing the tail light with something a bit tidyer?
RSMF
Hi Leon, it is indeed pukka air craft grade stuff, which makes them well worth the money... the reason we haven't changed the back light unit is that I've had my eye on a really beautiful minature Lucas replica unit that's identical to the steel 60's lights and they come with tiny indicators included, all made from billet, but they are pretty expensive, so will probably save them for next year and do both bikes at once... you are right, it is the daftest back light ever, but it's worth the wait!
Bloody hell, thats smashing and really good quality :-))
The thumbscrew and alan hex just makes so much sense.
Even a longer bolt and spacer would have worked well, but triumph just cheaped out really bad, dam shame.
I thought inverse slots for the side panals but when you took the new extended thumbscrew bolts from the packet oow nice :-))
They are the kind of farkles you just enjoy fitting because they are so nicely made and cleverly worked out.... shame Triumph make them necessary aye..
nice little extras :) Be heading down your way in a week with a couple of mates, on are yearly summer outing, the A39 looks a nice road round the coast line, probably make are way round there, then spend a few days working are way along the south coast line, any tips on must see places on a bike would be appreciated :)
If you're starting in the west country (A39), then you absolutely have to ride through the moors, the thousand year old scenery you won't see anywhere else in the country, other than in moorland... drop down to Captain Jasper's at Plymouth Harbour, a great biker meet, West Bay nr. Bridport 'on any Sunday', and Poole Quay on Tuesday nights for 1000+ bikes every week... enjoy your trip mate, Del
Moonfleet41 thanks del I will try and get to some of them.
Hi Del ! Me again where did you get the front footrests from please ,thanks Grandad😂
Alright bud - liking the additions - practical and very nicely made by the looks of things - nice one - hope ya both well - aint been about recently had a stint at the local NHS hotel, lovely heh... have fun keep safe - cheers - Nige
Sorry to hear that Nige, hope you are all well now... just moving forward with a few mods, take care my friend, Del
Is there any storage space under the seat? If so it seems crazy that you can't just open it with the key.
No storage at all mate, just flat rails and a battery (plus other related plugs n fittings)... the last bike i had with a key and hinges was an XS650... but that before your time id say fellah... !
Hiya mate,
Can't seem to find a link to both the seat bolts and side covers. The cheapest they come in at is £35.97 is that the correct price?
if they are pressing against the seat vinyl they will cutt through it especially if you have passenger on the bike with you
And in almost 3 years, and 4,000 miles since this video... they have NOT... so not an issue..!
Sorry again Del just found footrest vid ,don’t know how I haven’t seen these before!
Ah sorry just read the other comments and seen she is keeping it :)
Yeah, wrong time to sell it, and she loves it too much..
Hello again Both :-) So you didn't sell the Bonny in the end then?!! Good news I guess, as long as Penny still has the funds she needed for the business... Have you still got the scrambler too?
Yeah, Scrambler still safe in the stable, it was just a plan but with the bike being just 12 months old, there is too much competition from the main dealers who sell the used demos with extras on and can offer part exchange and finance...you'll never compete with that aye.... happy to keep it and enjoy it as we put a lot into it.. Thanks for watching Martin, good to hear form you.. Del.
Moonfleet41 Understand what you mean mate. Hope that means Penny hasn't had to miss out on the funds she needed for her work. Great news though that you've kept the Bonny and the Scrambler! Hopefully see you all on a meet somewhere soon. Take care.
I think they look miles better, Triumph should take note, I think its called customer feed back!!!
I think Triumph suffer with the same condition as Harley.....its called "Feedback Deafness"....but hey, you can go on the Triumph website and buy them as extras....how thoughtful of them....lol
Nice work!! ... I thought you were selling that bike??
Too many dealers selling 12 month old models and offering part exchange and finance facilities... cant compete with that buddy, happy to keep it as they dont de-value, so its a sound investment.....
I thought you guys were selling the bonny to scrape back a few bob. It's such a legendary bike now!
Hi James, that was the plan mate, but no buyers about, and with the sun shining she's happy to keep and enjoy it, so time for some upgrades.
neat little up grades sweet
Good bit of boltage there! TBH it looks like Triumph may have gone for looks rather than function in some areas on the Bonnie.
Also, did I miss a vid -I thought you got rid of the Pennyville? Not that I'm complaining, she's a beaut! :o)
Hi Lasty... no, the Pennyville is still with us, there are too many 12 month old bikes in the dealers for sale with P/X deals and finance, cant compete with that ,and not many buyers have the cash for a bike that new...so she's just riding and enjoying it again... which makes me very happy..
Watching this video makes me think my seat isn't hard to take it out at all.
1/4" socket set with allen keys? Always handy, mine is a Britool, use it every week.
Hi Del, did i miss something i thought you were selling the bonne ??
Didnt find the right buyer Andy, too many dealers selling 12 month old demo bikes with finance and P/X option,... not too many buyers out there with enough cash for a year old bike...so happy to keep it and keep making it better..
Moonfleet41 Nice one mate, sounds like a good move, keep up the good work with the Vids, as someone who likes to maintain my own bikes its good to have your videos as a reference when that little bit of doubt creeps in!
Hello where can i by this?
Hi Del, been watching your videos for ages and totally enjoy them, thought you were selling Penny's bike,?
Regards
Gordon.
We did roll it through Ebay, but too many dealers offering finance and part-ex... it's always hard to sell a 12month old bike privately... so it's stays!
And they're bunggy points.
ha ha maybe, probably not to healthy for your seat vinyl...
The reason for these crappy allen bolts is because Triumph's are now built in Uganda.
Ps; I'm trolling for the bandit ;-)
Troll on brother.... its gonna be daft as a brush when its done... and this bike was built in Thailand...but the dufus who thought up the design is firmly in the Midlands...!
I love em girlfriend! Nice facial beardage too delboy I'm a sucker for muttom chops! Xx
I love you, you mad woman, great to see you this last weekend... see you both again in a couple of weeks x
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I thought penny had decided to flog the bonnie?
Read a few of the messages below Alex... one of the hardest kinds of sale to make is a 12 month old bike privately... people expect, at that price range, to have part-ex and finance facilities, so can't compete with the dealers...
Just ordered those bits for my Scrambler. As you know the scrambler pipe are a little
in the way to get to where you need to put the oil in. So today I was in my local auto parts (Blue Spruce) place that sells everything. I was looking around for stuff I don't need and came across drum brake adjustment tool which turns out to be a perfect fit and works great. Still love Triumph .
till the always ride safe and don't let the bastards win
Hi David, well done mate, its good kit, and you'll be chuffed with it when it arrives... good find on the oil cap tool....but if you want an upgrade then TEC Bike Parts to a trick CNC turned 19mm nut head replacement... take care buddy... Del.
Moonfleet41 Just got mine in the post. Headed out to out them on right now.
Is it that they tried to go a little to 'retro' and went back to the 1930's with the old slotted screws, instead of proper modern engineering ???
:S WHY THE DISLIKES.... bloody hell...
Yeah, switched them off again, too many spiteful little haters these days...but hey, every one's a hit that counts and pays...Doh..lol.
"Common sense solutions for stupid-arse designs". Wouldn't that make a great tagline for a company :D
Says it all aye..? it should be the tagline of firms like Motone and Tec..!
she keeping it now? she really should its beautiful
Thanks Glen, i think thats what swayed it anyway, its never easy to sell a bike thats less than a year old, too much competition from the dealers who can offer part exchange and finance...both of which most people need...