Gerald had been a member of 808 State (originally State 808), and had helped write 'Pacific State' for their early 12" EP, 'Quadrastate' (1989), but left the group before it was finished, and it was released without his permission, and worse, some releases do not credit him for it. 'Specific Hate' was created to show how pissed off he was with the group. The 'Pacific State' samples are there - they were created by Gerald.
@@dylanelliott4797 It is, because Gerald was part of 808 State, wrote a good portion of most of their tunes, but saw no royalties and has his name left off the credits.
@@dylanelliott4797 The feud between Gerald and the rest of 808 State started with Pacific State. Gerald actually wrote is as A Guy Called Gerald but Graham and Martin found it and added contributions and released it without his permission. That's why he left the group and was always upset at the fact they stole his track and made it a hit of their own.
Its basically down to using the very same synth and sound as 808. But Madchester won in the end. 808 was my UK favourite techno band for years, but later I come to label it more like experimental electronica than techno.
@@michaelgranaldi8109 Can confirm this song got some very memorable sounds, also used in Pacific State. But it was Ooops that was 808s big hit and seller thou.
So is this basically the Acid House equivalent of a rap diss track? Considering how popular Pacific became after 808 State essentially flipped it, I would be angry too.
still have this and an old lounge jays 12" (sex machine) this made after the falling out hence the tongue in cheek title. hot lemonade is very good as is the 808 stuff. originators
@@rizqiaditiyo It was the "Pink Floyd vs Roger Waters feud thingy" that haunted Gerald? He did make a name for himself, perhaps not selling as much as 808 but he is remembered. I seen 808 LIVE two times. They were really an experimental electronica band more than being part of DJ/House scene. Imo. A bit later I was at a Hardfloor concert... that was the real deal and it still haunts my mind how awesome these two dutch people performed together, as one unit, turning knobs and levels, in perfect synch. A true techno outfit.
Gerald , Must of had a thing 😠👎 against 808 👎 State 😑,I don't know what , Emotionally fir Gerald himself felt the need 😲to make & Express 🎹 himself on this Dalm Brilliant Jam of A house Track , Funky 👍
Gerald was originally a member of 808 State and, if i recall correctly, he wrote this track following his frustration in getting credited for writing the original work.
Gerald had been a member of 808 State (originally State 808), and had helped write 'Pacific State' for their early 12" EP, 'Quadrastate' (1989), but left the group before it was finished, and it was released without his permission, and worse, some releases do not credit him for it.
'Specific Hate' was created to show how pissed off he was with the group. The 'Pacific State' samples are there - they were created by Gerald.
Quality tune..... 1luv 😎
On to bigger and badder things with that breakbeat anyhow!
Cheers for posting this lesser-known B-side that was a dis to 808 State - hence the title and the obvious strings/melody used.
Randy J actually those two collaborated back in the day, it’s no diss to 808 state
@@dylanelliott4797 It is, because Gerald was part of 808 State, wrote a good portion of most of their tunes, but saw no royalties and has his name left off the credits.
@@dylanelliott4797 The feud between Gerald and the rest of 808 State started with Pacific State. Gerald actually wrote is as A Guy Called Gerald but Graham and Martin found it and added contributions and released it without his permission. That's why he left the group and was always upset at the fact they stole his track and made it a hit of their own.
Its basically down to using the very same synth and sound as 808. But Madchester won in the end. 808 was my UK favourite techno band for years, but later I come to label it more like experimental electronica than techno.
@@michaelgranaldi8109 Can confirm this song got some very memorable sounds, also used in Pacific State. But it was Ooops that was 808s big hit and seller thou.
Brilliant B-side dropped many a time in Belfast
So is this basically the Acid House equivalent of a rap diss track? Considering how popular Pacific became after 808 State essentially flipped it, I would be angry too.
This is why he produced specific hate, because of the 808 state version
Choon in 2022
damn dis good.
still have this and an old lounge jays 12" (sex machine) this made after the falling out hence the tongue in cheek title. hot lemonade is very good as is the 808 stuff. originators
gerald simpson 808state personal
I like 808s version better.
@@jmp01a24 this sample was made by Gerald, but 808state refuse his credits after they kicked him out
@@rizqiaditiyo Didn't they credit him on the album?
@@rizqiaditiyo It was the "Pink Floyd vs Roger Waters feud thingy" that haunted Gerald? He did make a name for himself, perhaps not selling as much as 808 but he is remembered. I seen 808 LIVE two times. They were really an experimental electronica band more than being part of DJ/House scene. Imo. A bit later I was at a Hardfloor concert... that was the real deal and it still haunts my mind how awesome these two dutch people performed together, as one unit, turning knobs and levels, in perfect synch. A true techno outfit.
@@jmp01a24 they're british not dutch😓
Gerald , Must of had a thing 😠👎 against 808 👎 State 😑,I don't know what , Emotionally fir Gerald himself felt the need 😲to make & Express 🎹 himself on this Dalm Brilliant Jam of A house Track , Funky 👍
Gerald was originally a member of 808 State and, if i recall correctly, he wrote this track following his frustration in getting credited for writing the original work.
He was well annoyed with it