Hi john. Where did u get the mirage cover thingy on the barrel and is it just held on with Velcro? Thanks for all you do, but you have cost me a fortune in reloading gear 😋
Great video covering the rest. Thinking about the course elevation knob, the side that is closest to the vertical support moves in the direction the bridge will move. Also loved the camera position showing your position and the seat. I noticed that you pretty much come completely off the rifle right before you shoot.
I get to have my go on a beta model tomorrow. Watched this series of vids with keen interest. Thanks for the info John I might look like I know what I'm doing tomorrow now
@@FClassJohn was an honour to be able to have a go on the X. Tracked beautifully very stable and simple to use. Thanks for the vids I looked like I knew what I was doing 😁
Hi, nice to see you covering the front rest but it would be nice if you could cover rear bags as well . A video on that would be very helpful. Thanks Jeff
In the beginning when I'm setting up the scope. Rifle is level where I want it. Then I put the scope on and level to Strader lines plub to the Earth. So when I level the rest it's to the scope level that I put on it.
John, I have a potentially stupid question... Do co-axial front rests actually improve performance, or are they ultimately just something nice to have? I thought the answer was obvious, but after shooting my very first 600 yard f-class match last weekend, I'm not certain. I was shooting a factory rifle (with a well developed handload) off a bipod and rear bag, and I somehow managed to beat a few competitors who were completely decked out with full f-class equipment... custom rifles, $2,000 front rests, the whole deal. I scored 594-21X on a day where the conditions were nearly ideal. Honestly, how much more do you stand to gain with a high dollar rest? I really want to get one, but simply can't afford one at the moment.
First off, congrats on the win. On the rest, it all comes down to small details and whether they matter to you. You get better and easier resolution on target which matters long term. You also get on target repeatedly faster and will far less chance of lining up on the wrong target compared to a bipod. I understand the cost issue for sure. One of the best options out there cost wise is the standard Seb Mini. You can order one without too long of a waiting or find a used one but those are under $1000. Otherwise keep hammering away with what you're doing, it's clearly working for you right now.
@@FClassJohn Thanks for the response. Btw, I DEFINITELY didn't win that shoot; I just happened to beat a few others, lol. The winner surprised all of us, as she was an eighteen year old girl shooting a 6 Dasher. She did fantastic, with a perfect 600 score!
So are you allowed to use a tuner in f-class but not a break? I have the EC Tuner break for PRS but looking to get into f-class and bummed I have to take it off.
Thank you again. I have been enjoying your videos. Obviously I am biased here, but I have bought other products you have reviewed as well...Just letting you know. E
Always harder to introduce torque on a flat bench like you're firing off. Tend to see it more at ground level where uneven surfaces come into play. Great looking rest though, and it looks like you've got a nice stiff bolt click on extraction.
Agreed but I'm not getting any torque on the ground either but yeah you're right. As for the click, it's a new cartridge and we're figuring out dimensions but the click isn't nearly as bad as it looks and I know it sounds bad but I don't mind click in a situation like this because it's not really affecting anything at this point but ideally it'll get worked out. .
@@FClassJohn Is this your 6.5-7PRC wildcat cartridge John? I'm wildcatting this cartridge myself and have a custom die made by Whidden's based off the reamer print so hopefully they've kept the tolerances nice and tight to prevent clickers. The Micron Precision dies would be good but I don't believe they are doing custom orders.
@@kriswilson5400 Sounds like you have it dialed in so that’s good. The key to avoiding clickers is to open have a reamer with a little bit more base diameter but as we are all still learning this cartridge is taking a little time to figure out what the right dimensions are. I’ve modified mine a little bit and it’s officially 7 Windthumper. Time will tell how all these prc variants perform.
@@FClassJohn wow. i just looked them up and they are out of stock but showing a price of 890 euro. that will probably put them around $1000 to your door.
It's a lot of money for sure but I think it's only about $900ish to ship to the US right now from what he told me?? At $900 it's only a little more than a Labradar once you buy all the needed Gera compared to the AndiScan that comes with everything you need. I can tell you I don't miss the LR at all. I always have the Andi with me now in my range bag and here's been times I didn't plan on taking speed readings but remembered it was in my bag and pulled it out. It's also amazing for traveling since I can just throw it in my backpack on the plane. I know it won't be for everyone but in my case it is worth it.
Just be prepared to type fast and if you mess up refresh your screen, don't try just re-entering data. No telling how fast it will sell out since attendance is unknown with component shortages and such but I'm sure it will still sell out quickly.
@@FClassJohn Thank you John, I’ll be making the drive from Memphis. I just want all my ducks lined up and ready to go since this will be my first time in the SWN. I’m guessing in need to sign up for 600 and aggregate.
It's fairly common in F Class. It give you visual access to the chamber but keeps your bolt hand away. Can't say it's actually a better setup but I like it and it works for me. Some guys prefer same side bolt and port.
Savage makes one i think. Only factory gun configured like that i know of. I dont think i could get used to it. I single feed a lot too. All my guns have sleds even the 22lr and 17hmr.
On another stock I had, yeah. But on a stock and gun that works for your position it shouldn't. The one stock I had just fit my body weird and it would whack my finger.
No. I saw an attachment on one of the videos that held and positioned loaded case while shooting. Wondering if that will come with the rest or is that an option.
@@charlestatumjr.1427 oh, OK I know what you mean. I am sure that will be an accessory later but no I don’t have one and it’s honestly not some thing I would personally use.
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Hi john. Where did u get the mirage cover thingy on the barrel and is it just held on with Velcro? Thanks for all you do, but you have cost me a fortune in reloading gear 😋
Great video covering the rest. Thinking about the course elevation knob, the side that is closest to the vertical support moves in the direction the bridge will move. Also loved the camera position showing your position and the seat. I noticed that you pretty much come completely off the rifle right before you shoot.
Yeah he is using free recoil to determine his seating depth for sure
I have the rodzila t-rex, which of the two do you prefer?
I get to have my go on a beta model tomorrow. Watched this series of vids with keen interest. Thanks for the info John I might look like I know what I'm doing tomorrow now
Awesome! I hope you love it as much as I have.
@@FClassJohn will update you with how I got on
@@FClassJohn was an honour to be able to have a go on the X. Tracked beautifully very stable and simple to use. Thanks for the vids I looked like I knew what I was doing 😁
Really nice setup you have there.
Thank you
Nice review John. BTW, at 04:58... PTFE and Teflon mean the same.
Thank you.
Thanks for the info
Glad it helped.
Hi, nice to see you covering the front rest but it would be nice if you could cover rear bags as well . A video on that would be very helpful. Thanks Jeff
I think he had one on the rear bag. Must be a year old or more.
He did a video on that bag. Which is the Dima bag if I am corect.
@@RabbitSlayer48 thanks, I'll search it.
I like the extender
Yeah for sure, some people will really appreciate the extra length in their hands.
In the beginning when I'm setting up the scope. Rifle is level where I want it. Then I put the scope on and level to Strader lines plub to the Earth. So when I level the rest it's to the scope level that I put on it.
John, I have a potentially stupid question... Do co-axial front rests actually improve performance, or are they ultimately just something nice to have? I thought the answer was obvious, but after shooting my very first 600 yard f-class match last weekend, I'm not certain. I was shooting a factory rifle (with a well developed handload) off a bipod and rear bag, and I somehow managed to beat a few competitors who were completely decked out with full f-class equipment... custom rifles, $2,000 front rests, the whole deal. I scored 594-21X on a day where the conditions were nearly ideal. Honestly, how much more do you stand to gain with a high dollar rest? I really want to get one, but simply can't afford one at the moment.
First off, congrats on the win. On the rest, it all comes down to small details and whether they matter to you. You get better and easier resolution on target which matters long term. You also get on target repeatedly faster and will far less chance of lining up on the wrong target compared to a bipod. I understand the cost issue for sure. One of the best options out there cost wise is the standard Seb Mini. You can order one without too long of a waiting or find a used one but those are under $1000. Otherwise keep hammering away with what you're doing, it's clearly working for you right now.
@@FClassJohn Thanks for the response. Btw, I DEFINITELY didn't win that shoot; I just happened to beat a few others, lol. The winner surprised all of us, as she was an eighteen year old girl shooting a 6 Dasher. She did fantastic, with a perfect 600 score!
So are you allowed to use a tuner in f-class but not a break? I have the EC Tuner break for PRS but looking to get into f-class and bummed I have to take it off.
Correct. No brakes or suppressors allowed on F Class. Tuners are ok.
Thank you again. I have been enjoying your videos. Obviously I am biased here, but I have bought other products you have reviewed as well...Just letting you know. E
I appreciate that Ernie, it's always a pleasure working with you and I'm glad my videos have helped.
John hello, just curious what do the colored tapes mean on the barrel?
They’re just identifiers for me in my log books. I actually don’t use them anymore and now use punch numbers on the side of the barrel.
@@FClassJohn oh okay, I gotcha
Thank you
Always harder to introduce torque on a flat bench like you're firing off. Tend to see it more at ground level where uneven surfaces come into play. Great looking rest though, and it looks like you've got a nice stiff bolt click on extraction.
Agreed but I'm not getting any torque on the ground either but yeah you're right. As for the click, it's a new cartridge and we're figuring out dimensions but the click isn't nearly as bad as it looks and I know it sounds bad but I don't mind click in a situation like this because it's not really affecting anything at this point but ideally it'll get worked out. .
@@FClassJohn Is this your 6.5-7PRC wildcat cartridge John? I'm wildcatting this cartridge myself and have a custom die made by Whidden's based off the reamer print so hopefully they've kept the tolerances nice and tight to prevent clickers. The Micron Precision dies would be good but I don't believe they are doing custom orders.
@@kriswilson5400 Sounds like you have it dialed in so that’s good. The key to avoiding clickers is to open have a reamer with a little bit more base diameter but as we are all still learning this cartridge is taking a little time to figure out what the right dimensions are. I’ve modified mine a little bit and it’s officially 7 Windthumper. Time will tell how all these prc variants perform.
I am always interested in what these people who shoot this sport do for a living...anyone know what John does?
Is this rest better than the rodzilla rest?? I am looking to buy a rest and I don't know what one I want.
I’ve been trying to contact SEB about this rest. No luck. Any other way than the Contact Us on his website?
What country are you in? If you're in the US here's the US representative that you would have to contact ernieemily@yahoo.com
i was going to ask the same thing when you going to do another vid on that chrono john . but great review on neo x
I'm working on another chrono video soon. But spoiler alert, I already sold my labradar and this is a keeper.
@@FClassJohn I think some of us may have noticed that John.....Figured this new chrony was the reason....
@@FClassJohn wow. i just looked them up and they are out of stock but showing a price of 890 euro. that will probably put them around $1000 to your door.
John, What is the black mat under the front rest? Thanks, great video
My club uses 3/8" stall mat to cover all the benches.
I see you are using the new Andi-Scan chronograph. Do you like it and do you think it is worth $1390 shipped?
It's a lot of money for sure but I think it's only about $900ish to ship to the US right now from what he told me?? At $900 it's only a little more than a Labradar once you buy all the needed Gera compared to the AndiScan that comes with everything you need. I can tell you I don't miss the LR at all. I always have the Andi with me now in my range bag and here's been times I didn't plan on taking speed readings but remembered it was in my bag and pulled it out. It's also amazing for traveling since I can just throw it in my backpack on the plane. I know it won't be for everyone but in my case it is worth it.
Great Vid 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi John,
Can you share any advice on signing up for the SWN on Sunday? I’ve heard it sells out in 5 minutes. Thanks
Just be prepared to type fast and if you mess up refresh your screen, don't try just re-entering data. No telling how fast it will sell out since attendance is unknown with component shortages and such but I'm sure it will still sell out quickly.
@@FClassJohn Thank you John, I’ll be making the drive from Memphis. I just want all my ducks lined up and ready to go since this will be my first time in the SWN. I’m guessing in need to sign up for 600 and aggregate.
@@cnB83 it is two different Sign ups. You just have to decide if you wanna shoot all of it or just part of it.
@@FClassJohn Thanks John, I appreciate the help…
Super Nice.👍👍👍👍👍👀😎
Left hand load , right hand bolt ? Great idea. Never seen that before
It's fairly common in F Class. It give you visual access to the chamber but keeps your bolt hand away. Can't say it's actually a better setup but I like it and it works for me. Some guys prefer same side bolt and port.
@@FClassJohn Thank you ! Love your vids and sharing the knowledge !!!
Savage makes one i think. Only factory gun configured like that i know of. I dont think i could get used to it. I single feed a lot too. All my guns have sleds even the 22lr and 17hmr.
Have you seen left hand load right eject?
@@rungun3982 yes, in fact my close friend uses that configuration. .
I would really like to have a Chrono like yours.
You can find them here www.sqi-andix.com/andiscan-micro/
Out of stock at present
@@rungun3982 yeah I just talked to him and he’s working on the next run.
Have you ever had the trigger guard hit your finger?
On another stock I had, yeah. But on a stock and gun that works for your position it shouldn't. The one stock I had just fit my body weird and it would whack my finger.
Why do you pull your finger off the trigger?
@@marklincoln9982 it’s what works for me 🤷🏻♂️
What are running for a scope
I’ve been running a Trijicon Tenmile for a while and really love them.
Do you have the case holder?
You mean the case that it travels in? Yes I show it in my first video from a couple days ago.
No. I saw an attachment on one of the videos that held and positioned loaded case while shooting. Wondering if that will come with the rest or is that an option.
@@charlestatumjr.1427 oh, OK I know what you mean. I am sure that will be an accessory later but no I don’t have one and it’s honestly not some thing I would personally use.
I looked at your unboxing video. The carrying handle is what Seb used to mount his loaded case holder on.
@@charlestatumjr.1427 yeah I went back and looked at his video and saw that.
Price point?
I've heard it should be somewhere around $1600 but we will see when it actually comes out.
@@FClassJohn thanks but that would be way outta line for a rest ,
MSRP?
Not sure yet but I've heard around $1600
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