The 1985 & 1986 ATC 350X - What Are The Differences??
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2021
- Ever wonder what the differences are between the 1985 & 1986 Honda ATC 350X are?? Well wonder no more! I take you through a side by side comparison of the two model years of the ATC 350X and show you all the differences that I'm aware of!
I'm sure I missed one, so if you can think of one I missed, post it in the comments!
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So this is where all the good ones are being stashed.
Well.... not all of them... :)
Really appreciate your video. I just rescued an abused 85 350x and plan to restore it. It won’t be OEM correct but as nice and new as I can make it. I was having trouble identifying factory colors on certain parts so your video helped immensely. Thanks!!!
Just seeing that 86 brings a tear to my eye ...That was my bike back 87-90 , I was only 13 and that thing was a beast . I was a good rider for my age and cause of my size it took me everywhere I wanted to go.
We never had any issue other than my chain breaking one outing . My Uncle was part of the Dune Patrol and was able to buy them after they switched to all quads for way cheap.
One of the best Hondas made imho and the headlights were awesome for night rides.
Awesome man! Thank you for sharing that. I agree with you that they were the best!
Is this one man's collection? Should be illegal to own so much Honda greatness,lol... Holy crap
Yes sir! And the collection has grown since then!
This is an awesome video of the comparison between the 85/86 models. I remember my Dad got me a Like new, all original, with tool kit and manual, an 85 250 ES Big Red from a good fellow that had an 85 and a 86 ATC 350x. To me back then they was the ultimate 3wheeler to have and show off on the weekend. I really miss those days.
i was 14 yrs old had a brand new left over 1985 bought new in early 1987!! wish i still had it but a neighbor of mine has it now!!
Man! That's awesome! I get excited just thinking about that!
When I was a kid my friends dad owned a Honda dealership, he always had the latest, didn't to have my own to ride, had plenty on hand.
I remember the ATC 70's well, fond memories.
He took his own life years ago, we don't know why.
Thank you for this video! I learned that my 85 350X has the O.E. Front tire on it still. Pro Vector 101
Seeing those ATC70s in the back ground really takes me back. That was the 1st motorized anything I rode at 4 years old. It was in the family for a very long time and Unfortunately my brother in law sold it without anyone else knowing. Also Grew up riding a ATC110 and ATC200S.
Great video thank you again.
Good day thank you very much for your time. And allowing us into your collection. Nothing but All the best to you. 👍
Thank you very much!!
Great video! My first atc was a 110. I tore the crap out of dads yard. Then he came home with a 185 thinking we could ride together. I think we rode together like twice then the 185 was all I rode. Went everywhere on that thing. The chains always popped off on those 185 and I had to leave it one night and when I came back it was gone. I rode every model from the 70, 125, 200 and 250. All my buddy’s had them. I did have the pleasure of riding an 85 350 when I was 14 at the dealership. My mom was ready to buy it for me but when I cracked the throttle first time I got off and said mom I don’t think I’m ready for that! Lol
I learned a ton from this video! I had no idea that a swing arm skid plate even existed for a 350x, and I didn’t know about a lot of the subtle differences. I did want to share with you however, that for 85 and likely 86 you could purchase a brake master cylinder guard that could be other chrome or black I think... I know chrome for sure because I have one. Another big difference is with the clutch levers on the engine itself. Not the clutch lever you grab with your hand, the lever the clutch cable attaches to on the engine. They are different, and I figured I’d point that out. I do have a few questions about my 85 that I figured you might have an answer to? First off, you need to know I’ve rebuilt the top end, and then split the cases because of a little piece of aluminum caught in the gears (not gonna explain because it’s a long story). So I have torn my engine apart two DIFFERENT times. Immediately after I finished putting it back together the second time, where I split the cases, it started burning oil. At first I thought it was just assembly lube or excess oil in the cylinder burning off, but it never stopped and it has gotten worse over time. It is now so bad that I am afraid that I’m gonna run it out of oil when I go for a long ride. There is some other stuff you should know too. When I tore it apart the FIRST time, when I did the top end, I replaced two valve guides and 2 valves I believe, as well as piston rings, and I honed the cylinder. When I did the valve guides, I had to ream out the hole for one of the valve guides because it was wayyy too tight, and I reamed it out just a tad too big. Looking back at it, I should have just used heat to expand the head, and freezes the guides, but I didn’t. Anyways, I glued the guide in, and thought nothing of it. To this day the engine still has immaculate compression, and its getting oil into the cylinder when it obviously shouldn’t be. If anyone who may have an answer read this far, please share it with me. I’m going to tear it down soon, but I want to see what y’all think.
im just glad too see someone is saving these great machines....
Thank you!! Doing my best!!
Thanks for this video I just got an 85 and was wondering differences. Very nice trikes you have great job with them
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it! And thank you so much!
Awesome video. Glad I didn’t wait till after work.
That's right!
Mine in 86 back in 87 had no sticker by that Kickstart bar. Mine also had the red light cage .
That red fortrax 250r was the most comfortable bike I ever road . My uncle had one and man it road so nice , it floated over the bumps on dune trails.
Love the attention that you give to theses machines, this was so interesting ! If you have a ATC helmet collection that would be very cool to see ! Kind of a holy grail for me right now. Thanks ! 🙂👍
I've got a few helmets I need to display properly... when I get to it there will definitely be a video!
Right on, that would be awesome ! Thanks !
Still want this@@ThisOldTrike
Some great info brother thanks for sharing.
How does a guy with such a selection of machines only have 1400 subs? Wow.... Nice collection!
Thank you very much for that! Well, I've only been at it for 6 months, so hopefully things pick up quickly!!!
Great video man. Love your collection! Your a lucky man, and you have a great wife for putting up with your hobby!
Thank you very much!
Trust fund baby
Or... hard working SOB who likes cool stuff...
@@ThisOldTrike haha, God bless you and your beautiful family!
I love trikes too. It's the funnest way to end up in a hospital. Lol
I've had to ask myself what is my problem? Am I jealous or something?
Well, after trying to find the words, this is what irks me..
You've got a huge collection! But it seems almost like it's not yours. It comes off to me not so much as a collection but like you are a newly hired part time curator of a Honda exclusive 3 wheeler museum that's not open to the public.. but set up more like an erotic only fans page on RUclips for validation and attention.
Not trying to be mean. It's just I think if I owned just a handful of your machines, I could make a human connection to each one with intimate knowledge to be shared on a RUclips channel. I think too much of anything drowns out the specialness.
It's like if I had a channel with me and a harem of beautiful women but I had trouble getting their names right.
Anyway! Keep on keeping on.
I really would consider making what you've got into a legit museum.
Ok, this is interesting. I'm curious about why, or what about my videos makes it seem as if they're not mine? Not saying or asking that in a wtf kind of way, just curious what I'm doing or saying that makes it seem that way.
Regarding the validation or attention thing... I definitely am not doing this to be validated because I really don't care. But regarding the attention part... maybe? What I mean by that is, it's been really cool putting myself out there and meeting, even if it's only through social media, a lot of other like minded enthusiasts and many of them have become what I would consider good, good friends. So, the attention has brought a lot of valued connections and relationships with people that I would have not had otherwise.
And you're right... I have too many fricking three wheelers and I won't deny that. I often question my sanity and wonder why the hell I'm doing this. The answer to that is that I set a stinking goal almost 20 years ago to collect one of each Honda three wheeler.... I didn't know that that meant as many as it did... but 5 years ago I kinda started doing it and here I am. I'm in possession of all but one variation. I technically own them all though, because last week I bought the last one I need, but it's in England and I'm working on getting it here to the states. Once I get it here and have the complete set... spike the football... do the victory dance and fill my attention cup to overflowing... I will probably thin things out a bit... I've tried to think about what would stay and what would go... and only about 1/3 get re-homed...
In the meantime... my plan is to keep documenting the differences between the model years... I've got plans to do other types of informative videos also. I'm not running a museum... but I'm sharing my collection with the public through video? I've had lots of positive feedback from people who are thankful for the content I'm putting out... so I'm thankful for that and for them I will keep doing what I'm doing. It's keeping me accountable to different goals and projects because now I have this audience of people keeping tabs on me and wondering "hey, what's up with the 250R build?" "hey, how's the 88 Big Red coming??" Things like that.
So, maybe down the road we could do a museum... but who knows what will happen based on current events. I've watched a few of your videos and we've been down many of the same rabbit holes you've been down. I thought 45 was going to come in and save the day... but now we're just here with an empty bag wondering what the heck just happened and asking all the questions. I'm not making 5 year plans anymore... I'm thinking 6 months down the road at this point and adding "God willing" after all that. So... we'll see! In the meantime I'm going to keep on keeping on like you said... it's all we can do.
Ive never ridden one of these, but I really want one for some reason!!
Very good video I have always been curious on year differences...especially the 350X. The one thing I always thought was interesting as you mentioned was the baffles in the cases I think they had some oil starvation issues in the 85’ if you rode wheelies often so in 86’ they added some baffle or something in the case halves. Pretty cool.
I use to occasionally see if I could spot the differences in the generic photos from shop manuals lol...thought I was the only one for a while.
Collection is awesome!
Thanks Jerry! Hoping to see you at Trike Fest!
@@ThisOldTrike Same to you! Looking forward to it!
You should do a really quick video of explaining all the factory hondaline tools in the kits and what they do lol
Fantastic idea!
I'm a new subscriber and love your videos!! I just bought an 87 Honda Fourtrax 250x to restore I noticed you had a couple and was wondering if you could review them sometime? I know this is a trike channel but theres not a lot of vids on reviews for the 250X If so Id be very greatful!! Thanks so much for these awesome videos!
I've got my factory tool box with the pouch and everything in it with the fome in the bottom for my 85 200x looks like new !!
I've been wrong before, mainly with women and my consumption of illicit substances, but im fairly certain that 85 350xs like 95 250rs actually come with Dunlop tires, same exact tire and tread just by Dunlop,fairly certain but not 100%. Ill be honest, I learned a ton on this video though, like wow. I was so ignorant before not even joking. You really went all out with differences. I do feel right on 85s being Dunlops but not 100%. Need to find out! Awesome video!
Those is too awesome my friend back in 87 his dad had a try-z 250 an a 350x I would bring gas an i got to ride the 350x was best time ever. It seems like the 350x had black front sock covers. Loved to ride with him!
I have a 1985 350x that is 99.9% bone stock. It has 3" wheel spacers and upgraded rear studs (I DO have the original nuts and studs like new still) and it has a Uni filter (also, I DO have the OEM yellow/tan colored air filter still). The spark plug is the original as well. Bought it brand new in the wood crate from Merced power sports in 1985.
Wow! It sounds like you have a real time capsule there!! Not many in that condition anymore!
@@ThisOldTrike going tomorrow morning for a 3hr 1way road trip to pick up my 2nd 85 atc250r. Pretty stoked!
Nice info. Didn't catch if you mentioned the front fork boots. I believe there were a different amount of ribs between the two years.
I did count them all and each had the same amount. I'm not sure if my rider 350X has original boots or not...
Great video. Very informative. I have a situation where I have an 86 350x motor and an 85 350x frame. I have heard the question of, “can I use this part on this year 350x?” a lot. Not sure if you are interested in doing a video about mixing parts on 350x’s. What work what doesn’t. What you might have to do to make it work. For instance in my situation I know the mounting brackets are different (you even say so in this video.) but can I make it work? Thanks again for the great videos!
Owned one of each in the past.. 350x is one of my favorites.. 👍👍
#savesportquads
Yes sir! THE best!
this is my favorite video of the year by far. you have a tellers voise, Im about to pick up a 86 tomorrow though in stripped down for the moment, hope the price i right and not to much of resto work ahead :) keep it up / Sweden
Thank you so much!!
@@ThisOldTrike Do more :) Btw i got the 86 for 1100 $ :D
@@davida464 i would say that's extremely rare in Sweden.
@@OTAlucard yes all we have is big ren and usually a 200x once a year, i think we follow each other on Instagram @Honda_atc_conversions will be posting pictures on frame, tank, swing etc this weekend :D i will try to do all the plating my self
@Larry Bone popular in the way that they sell like butter when for sale but are not many of them here
Nice! I bought a 1985 350x new and kept it for about 35 years.
That's awesome! So you still have it??
@@ThisOldTrike No, I sold it to a guy who restores them. It was pretty beat up after all those years, though it still ran good and I was able to ride it. I wish now I kept it and had it restored. I live in Maine by the way.
Me my brother and a friend bought 86 350x's new, none of them had the warning stickers on the sides of the rear fenders under the gas tank. We had purchased them in December of 1985, in Wisconsin, not sure if that matters.
I’m jealous. The love I have for these machines..
Thank you so much Philip!
Hey, you seem like the right guy to ask. I know it's a long shot though. I have an 85 that has been in the family since it came off the showroom floor way back when. I am having a hell of a time sourcing a replacement for the garnish on the rear fender (the little black piece that goes across the entirety of the rear fender, some people call a mud flap). Do you by chance know of anyone reproducing those? Would love to keep OEM like the rest of the trike, but people are asking an outrageous amount for the used ones online.
I appreciate your time, very cool collection my friend. Noticed the blue 70! Sooo sweet
I have not heard of anybody reproducing them at this time. Lots of talk about it over the years! They seem to bring $300 minimum for one these days, if not more. Definitely crazy. Thank you very much for the comment and kind words Jake!! I appreciate that!
How much is the outrageous price that they’re asking?
I have one off my 85 up at the cottage.
This collection is insane
Thank you!!
Awesome video I Knew most the big things but you showed me a lot I didn't....... I do know tho the exhaust header nuts are different the 86 has chrome with caps and 85 don't. And I'm pretty sure the 86 is a little lighter like a pound or something
I’m aspiring towards owning a nice rider 350x. I just got a minty 200x but it has no second gear so I’m working on taking care of that.
You'll be very very happy with a 350X sir!
My 86 was a beast just a freaking monster
They really are. They're my favorite machines...
Hey I have a 1980 Honda Express NC-50 and we just got done with the top/bottom end and it can't accelerate that well even though we did the carb adjustments. What do you think we are missing?
Wish Honda still made this and I use to have 1983 200x but I don't have it now
Do you happen to have an extra '86 350x brake stay plate? I have an '85 and I would like to get a new swingarm made up for it and prefer the cleaner '86 style but haven't been able to find that brake stay plate.
Hey there again, (don’t know your name)
I was playing around today looking at trike stuff and read that you found your bikes through Internet/word of mouth. I found an 86 350x posted 4 days ago, but it’s Canada so not sure if that is out of your range. Lmk
Damn...
Super sweet trikes.
Thanks Robert!
BTW Awesome video!!
I would love see this same video on the 83-85 200X vs the 86-87 200x
It's on the to-do list!!
This Old Trike can’t wait!!
Yeah, i had two 83' 200x i always envied the 86 because it was a 6 speed and built more like the 250r/350x platforms
Hey my friend, you have to get the two years of the 700xx in the collection.
I hear ya. I've been only focused on trikes (with a few exceptions) for a long time. We'll see what the future holds though!
Could I ask you a question.. I remember my buddy bought a brand new Honda 200x in 1987 and there is now but there is another friend that said they don't exist only up to 1986 could you help me out with that. I know he bought it brand new and 87 and I always thought it was an 87 but I'm not 100 and thank you in advance 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I have an 86 350x that is bone stock and about as mint as it gets. I bought it new and it never had the black stickers on the rear fender. I was surprised when I saw them on others when looking at videos. Also have a 85 350x, 86 250R and a 84 200X. I bought the 200X new as well but has been ridden extensively.
I had a feeling some got them and some didn't!
Hi kj inohio would be willing to sell the 86 350x??
@@gamerbeastboy1842 I'm keeping it.
Wanna sell the 85 maybe or sell anything
I thought the Banshee was badass. These things went faster than you could see.
Great Video..Question. Can i get the link to Mikes Palmgrens page.
This is his website - www.vintagemotorsports.net/
This is his ebay - www.ebay.com/str/vintagemotorsportsrestorations
This is his email (which is probably the best way to order once you've seen what you want or need to ask questions about availability) - mike@vintagemotorsports.net
@@ThisOldTrike Thank you !
The cam chin tensioner is different on the 86 , the inside oil pump is better , case is cast differently for more oil to stop foaming
I like the looks of the 85 way more
There's a lot of people who do.
So in your expert opinion which machine is mechanically better? The only negative I have heard about the 1985 mechanically wise is how the clutch cable is routed? Do you see this as a problem?
The main thing I've heard that was worse on the 85 is the frame strength and where the put the oil pickup in the bottom end. Both those things were improved on the 86. 86 is better in my opinion.
23:40 my 85 has the embossed warning label on the back.
Those would be OEM replacement fenders. Much like how 250R fenders were 85 vs. 86.
@@ThisOldTrike cool, always wondered what the deal was with em being like that.
I know this an old video now but you could get a rear grab bar that had a basket for a small cooler or 6 pack. My friends 86 had it i might have some old pictures showing it somewhere but that was over 20 years ago. For some reason which we could never figure out my 85 was a lot fast. I know it sounds strange but was almost like the 86 was governed.
Yes sir you are correct. They were aftermarket, and I normally just talk about Hondaline accessories.
I want one 🥺
Hello sir. I live near Yuma, Arizona. Do you sell our trikes? Thank you.
On occasion, but not normally. I'm a collector not a dealer.
The seat looks much better on the 86. Which year would you rather have?
I prefer the 86. I like the white fenders and there's a sentimental part to it too because I had one in high school.
there's a guy I know that owned a Honda dealer ship way back in the day and right before they stopped making Honda 3 wheelers they were just going to start the 1987s and they got a 1987 atc 250r still in the box before you build it!!! and hes going to build it this week and I'm helping him! so sick he got a 100% 1987 still in the box 250r!!! and guys I'm not lying! 1987! 250r IN THE BOX STILL in the back of his dealer ship!
I'll believe it when I see it...
I’d like to see that too
@@jmmotorsunlimited3094 you will soon
@@emfelling8384 two years later and still no proof huh. My cousins brothers uncle had one too.
It's all about that 250r fourtrax
you missed the difference in the foot pegs, 86 foot pegs are stronger and wider by a few mm. Same as 85 and 86 atc250r. I don't know but suspect that the one bolt of the foot peg plate is longer on the 86 too(85 vs 86 atc250r).
You know what, I didn't know that! I think eventually I'll re-do both these videos and take all the comments and make sure I don't leave anything out. Thank you for the comment man!
Have you ever heard of a 86.5 350x and if so why are they different?
No sir, I don't know what that is...
1988 fourtrax 250r. Hands down greatest. Period.
Fantastic machines!
Go to 3-wheeler world 1987 250R and 1987 350X did exist in Canada for a little while before the band
You speak as though I haven't done all this research... I've read it all... I've watched it all... but a true 87 has never been 100% documented. Until that happens, I remain unconvinced that there's an 87 350X or 250R out there...
You’re completely wrong, I just read the article to double check for any news and though it is rumoured in the article…not one single 87 has been located.
can you please recommend someone who can work on honda engines ? for rebuilds, timing, kick starter work , valve adjustments, etc......
Where abouts are you located?
@@ThisOldTrike michigan. hey, also, does the 350x have an electric start or kick only?
Kick start only. Regarding engine builders.... I don't believe I know of anyone in Michigan unfortunately...
@@ThisOldTrike it doesnt matter about location. i just need someone reliable! i can travel!
@@ThisOldTrike maybe with all your experience you could comment on my issue:
200x runs great for 10 minutes. then when its warm it has an issue just off idle it acts like its choking out, then comes back and revs up. what is going on here? with my research it sounds like i need a bigger pilot jet. what do you think? ever had this issue?
Crazy to think that they were outlawed and now they are so sought after that you are afraid to damage them by actually riding them. Kinda sad really
The 1987 350x is in Canada and the 1987 250r is also in Canada there both mainly in farmland area’s not the city as most first buyers already purchased before they were out in 1987 farmers were always getting first dibs on anything new before it came out
There is zero evidence of that.
I live in Canada, Toronto actually but with a cottage up north. I owned and rode/raced my 85 350x for 15+ years, played on 250R’s, 250sx’s, Tri Z’s and all sorts of 4 wheelers too, I mention this only to show that I know quite a bit about the 350x’s and ATC’s in general and have NEVER seen or heard of anyone actually owning a 87 350x, period.
@@ThisOldTrikeHey there, great collection. Please see my comment re the 87 350x in Canada.
@ Thank you for chiming in. You know exactly what youre talking about. There's one video floating around RUclips from over a decade ago with a guy at a gas pump on a 350X that is claiming it's an 87. The machine had maier fenders, 85 triples, 86 motor... no video of the VIN... in other words... no proof. I agree with you completely.
@@ThisOldTrikeNo problem at all…..everyone’s half brother’s uncles stepdad has owned the elusive 87 but when you ask for simple proof, notta.
Anyway, Your videos are great and really took me down memory lane.
Where do you find all your trikes, I’m on Facebook marketplace everyday and it’s completely dry. Do you use Facebook or find things through word of mouth
I've been very actively collecting for over 4 years now. It's usually between Facebook marketplace or Craigslist, but has become more word of mouth for the last year... or friends have one they know I want and I finally wait them out or pester them enough to sell it to me. 🤣
Thank you for the input, I’ll have to ask around
Like the trx700xx
What the hell why don't they have the radiator? My Dad had a white one with a twist throttle and water cooled. I thought it was an 87 I got to ask him but I do remember the twist throttle and radiator onnit
350X's aren't liquid cooled. They do have an oil cooler though, and the oil cooler is behind the left tank shroud (shifter side). Regarding 87's, I've never seen a picture of one besides the lone promotional pic that Honda put out. I truly feel they never them to the public's hands. If any were ever made, they were destroyed before being distributed.
If you Google 1987 350X you will see them they do exist
Show me one other than the single picture that they used for promotional purposes... you can't because IF any were actually made, none actually left Honda's possession... If one were out there, it would have surfaced by now.
No, they don’t.
before i start watching your video all the way i shit my pants on all the 3 wheelers you had .. so thanks alot bro !!
Lol, I'll buy you a set of new underwear! My bad!
Make sure to sit on the toilet before watching my other videos!
any for sell??
Unfortunately not at the moment...
That jazz music is just the worst background noise.
I hate it too... I've stopped doing that... Hope you liked the video though!
What’s the horsepower of these machines anyone know
28 bhp
All I see is the 88 250r.
She is purdy!
Wow lol