comment below who is gonna walk away with the URC🏆 this year❓❓❓ so far its been 3 teams from 3 nations in 3 years Stormers/S.Africa (22) Munster/Ire (23) Glasgow/Scot (24) *interesting note all the other finalists were South African teams❗❗❗
@@ClutchRugbyXV Even as a South African I really don't care that much. Despite what some Frenchmen say, it is turning into an amazing league with some outstanding performances - I mean for heaven's sake, Glasgow going to Loftus to win the title last season was just fantastic (even if their coach is a Saffer) - and a sign that it's going to get better and better. Great for rugby all round. Long may both the URC and rugby union keep on an upward path.
Totally agree that the URC is the best league in the world, and the Saffer teams have added a whole new level of play to all the teams. For Glasgow to win at Loftus in the last final (OK, OK with an SA coach!) was great for the game as a whole, the URC as a whole, and was a fantastic game itself!! Long may it continue to go higher and higher.
Explain to me how it can be the best league in the world yet the last 4 champions cup are French, and 3 of the last 4 challenge cup belong to Top14 clubs, all that while having the longest league with actual relegation, meaning that low ranked clubs actually play every game like if it was a final to them. Not to mention the average crowd attendance nor the TV rights and audience
@@08padam Erm, because it's got five countries' teams playing in it, and the World Champions (two tournaments running) teams too, and it's only just warming up, and the area is spread all over EMEA not just in one little country? And that's just for starters.
@@stevedavidson666 Well once again they get bullied by French clubs in the champions cup (while they play much more games in their domestic league), the TV rights are nothing compared to Top 14, which is a proper league with relegation. And how can the world champions be that bad at elite club level then ? They didn’t even reach a semi. Appart from Leinster, all the top clubs in the champions cup are French.
@@08padam So what? The SA club teams do incredibly well in the URC, while the so-called European Championship seems to be falling apart. In fact, the Bulls sent a B team to play Northampton last season in the QF because the URC was far more important to them, and they went on to lose an amazing final in Pretoria against the staggeringly good Glasgow team (coached by a South African) who just today only lost to the Sharks in Durban by 4 points. Sorry mate, but your rugby really isn't up to much. And you couldn't even win your home ground RWC by cheating South Africa out of staging it.
@@stevedavidson666 so you’re the best because you lost to fucking Glasgow hahaha ? And what about the sharks who got hammered by Toulouse with more than 50 pts ? And about cheating, wanna talk about Kwagga’s last penalty in the 1/4 ? Or the 95 WC, when France got 4 tries disallowed in the semi against SA, the whole NZ team mysteriously sick before the final and god knows how many boke either dead or in a wheelchair because of steroids. You guys are unbelievable
yeah @Dk I watched their latest game, and was quite surprised at how they put their game together, particularly impressive was their TIGHT PHASES OF LOOSE PLAY!! which led to some tries, i think
As a Saffa Love watching the URC and getting to know the teams from up north. Another positive spin-off for the Bok supporters is that the ABs and Boks will be visitng each other for a taste of the old fashioned tours. Cant wait.
Munster and Leinster are like Boca Juniors and River Plate, Real Madrid and Barcelona, Celtic and Rangers, AC and Inter Milan. The rivalry is shaped by more than the sport
Bulls fan here, love the URC, it's been very engaging to watch and quite competitive. 3 seasons, 3 winners, from 3 different countries. I was at Loftus for that Bulls vs Glasgow final, and even though we lost in the end, the atmosphere was electric. Not to mention being part of the Champions Cup, which is definitely a level of club rugby I didn't see much when we were in Super Rugby
Yet SA clubs are being bullied in the Champions Cup, the last 4 HCup are French (France won the most Champions Cup) and 3/4 Challenge Cup are French, with different clubs every time. Don’t know how people still think that Too 14 isn’t the best league (also the longest, has relegation and huge TV rights and audiences)
Super Rugby? Who needs Super Rugby. Love our Scottish, Irish and Italian partners in the game. Times work, locations work, cameraderie works, player and coaching staff opportunities work and finances work. Works for me.
Sadly, (as it’s been bad for ‘Southern Hemisphere’ Rugby) I fear that NZ & Australian rugby administrator arrogance & poor judgment cost them dearly in the fact of & manner in which they turfed SA rugby. To their credit the SA administrators & sides seemed to prove flexible and adept enough to quickly adapt to & thrive in a Northern Hemisphere competition. Everyone ‘up north’ appears to have benefitted.
It's the South African way: no sooner do we face a challenge, then our minds just can't help but to start looking for opportunity in adversity....strength through adversity.
I was a huge super rugby fan. While I’m a Stormers supporter I loved watching the Highlanders, Sharks and Brumbies in Super Rugby and I do miss my Sanzaar family, but the traveling was a big onerous
Imagine a world where the premiership teams join the urc and you have a 1st and second devision urc tournament.with promotion relagation making the bottom of the log games count .That would mean strength vs strength all weekend long.also imagine a world with a week or 2 more set aside for international test matches in November and june so tier 2 teams get more game time against tier one and we can got backto 3 test series tours in July. This ,my fellow rugby fans,this would be a perfect world.
With SA inclusion, I find it crazy how Leinster are perpetual favourites and still haven’t won the competition. I’m so glad we joined! I’d be open to the Boks being part of both the 6N as well as TRC and using the July and November windows to play lesser tier nations. One year touring the Americas, another year we tour the Pacific, then another year it’s the African continent and then another year we tour Europe.
@ClutchRugbyXV you have no idea how grateful I am that I don't have to wake up for a 7 am or a 9am game after a hectic Friday night, few tournaments in and still very grateful, come home 4am and know I'll still be able to watch the lions😭
We want South Africa to do better. It is clear that the Rugby forming in the north is extremely strong. The NZ and AUS teams are stupid for not joining in on the fun. They will fall behind and the Northern Hemisphere along with South Africa will stay on top. It's great to have our boytjies having fun up there. Look at the awesome results we got when our players started playing for Northern Clubs. I love my country so much.
SA teams are still warming up to this competition. Even us fans are typically interested in watching the local head-to-head games. I am planning on watching all the Sharks home games this year. I think I watched 4 last year.
Saffa. The move was 100% the right thing for our game. It's competitive and the games are more or less in the same time zone. South African players who play for non-South African teams get a chance to develop their game while someone else foots the bill. All round it's a win-win for us. NZ and Aus's loss...
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I'm a big Bulls supporter and i can assure you that the URC is a great competition it's very good quality teams. Its also a great platform for international teams to breed future players. The Super Rugby league kick them self's for dropping the SA teams. I can see the Cheetahs and the Phumas joining the Super Rugby in the next few years. Its two complete different leagues with two different play styles, and South Africa will have the best of both. Its going to be mind blowing for the Boks
I've been saying for years the day SA move from super rugby is the start of the decline of the ABs and now it's been proven that SA was keeping the ABs good they will never be the same again and now the refs are also starting to be a bit more impartial and fair unlike in the McCaw era when everything just went for the ABs and blatantly so.. luv the URC
URC really feels like the best product out there right now. Rarely do you find a league where all the teams involved benefit on and off the field, the results are shown even on the international stage. Long may it continue and hopefully they don't let this all go because of greed and neglect just because they're making enough money. Sharks, Lions let's get those numbers up at the stadium
I miss the free running of Super Rugby, but move North has been a big catalyst for Bok rugby evolving. Getting used to the often pedantic Northern hemisphere reffing can be a challenge, but helps the Boks at international level, where as AB's & Aus have to adapt much more to interpretations, as their domestic refs can't officiate their international games
The free running end-to-end basketball rugby is most off-putting to me....don't get me wrong, I love running rugby, but I love a game that requires tactical superiority prior to it breaking open. A beautifully placed kick, a dominant scrum, big dominant hits, that's what makes rugby special to me.
Apparently the Argies returning to Super Rugby in 2026 may help save face for ANZ (not the bank). But with that being said, not surprising if it doesn't match the URC atmosphere that South Africa is enjoying at the moment with the best of both worlds.
It is fantastic for SA rugby as a whole, and rugby as a whole, too! And I hope (against hope probably, seeing the politics like us losing the 2023 RWC) that Rassie can become chairman of World Rugby - after winning a third in a row RWC in dry conditions for a change - and take his genius, and WR, to another level.
@ClutchRugbyXV exactly!!! The smaller clubs get to test themselves, and the bigger clubs have the opportunity to market the sport. Im proudly South African🤝🇿🇦
You should look at the bigger picture. South africa plays curry cup. We played super 14. We played tri nations now championship rugby. We have 4 world cups and most of ouer player play overseas. So we have a masef amount of experience that is why we play so good in the URC
as the Premiership is having problems here's the deal for them joining the URC: they would have to convince Wales first to merge to 2 teams (should be enough from Wales), then 5 English, 5 South African, 4 Irish, 2 Scottish, 2 Italian, 2 Welsh franchises, makes it 20 - every team against eachother once, then make 5 "shields" were they play the return game against eachother - total 23 games + playoffs ..... of course the European Cups would have to be scrapped .... maybe just play the winner of the URC vs the winner of Top14 ..... pretty sure that revised URC would beat the Top14 as the best league in the world .....
would choose Saracens, Harlequins, Bristol Bears, Leicester Tigers and Sale Sharks as the 5 from England (maybe instead of Bristol, Bath, so visitors have some sightseeing program ....)
Better choice will probably be an Anglo-Welsh comp. Like how in football the Welsh teams have the chance to qualify for the Premier League. But rather than having the Welsh regions joining, revive the Welsh club teams to be the top Welsh teams again, and disband the Regions and add the teams to the Championship for the 1st season, then the top 4 of the Championship that qualify with the premiership requirements advance to the Premiership
I honestly thought the SA teams would struggle more in this competition given that so many of our top players play for overseas clubs. So in a way this has also helped SA's development of younger players since they have to step up to a higher level quicker. Of course with more money in it for SA franchises, SA may be able to keep more of their top players at home (although we are not there yet as players like Arendse for example is leaving to play in Japan for the season whilst still contracted at the Bulls).
Every one getting way too excited- SA will be the first to be chopped as the Premiership is failing and is now eyeing the URC in a joint venture or actually joining the URC.
Tht's just hearsay (not only SA-Teams but Italian-Teams as well) believed to hve been initiated by British-teams as a lot of their Clubs going-under Financially so hoping URC cld be their life-line but not likely to happen..... URC-Board well aware of how bringing SA-Teams into URC-Competition has elevated the Competition & so are Rugby-lovers so like I said it's all hearsay!!!!
Nobody wants to prop up the premiership....Poms had their snoots in the air, looking down on the Pro12 (think that used to be URC, prior to becoming Pro14 and then URC). Now the URC is the premier club competition, and the Poms want the URC to repeat the mistakes of Oz and NZ. The measure of stupidity, would be for the URC to comply with the Poms short sighted demands.
As a Scottish Rugby, Glasgow & Edinburgh Supporter. I don’t want the failing English league joining up with URC. Too much arrogance over the past decades.
I just wish they'd sort out the travelling arrangements - Qatar Qattle Qlass sounds really kak for rugby players. Do it the French way - I travelled up from Joburg to Heathrow in April in the same plane as the Lyon players who had been thrashed the day before by the Bulls, and they were all in Business Class! [BTW that was obviously a Champion's cup match but close enough... ]
You compared average attendances in the Top 14 and Premiership to a one off game in the URC and used it as definitive proof of the URC being better. Reality is the average attendances are lower and a URC team hasn’t won the champions cup since the South Africans joined despite Leinster basically being the Irish national side that has won back to back six nations
the champions cup hasn't got anything to do with the urc urc is the most competitive any team can win generally the stormers bulls munster leinster glasgow sharks ulster have good attendences the welsh and italian teams are not the best the top 14 suck because toulouse are the only winners premiership is very boring and super rugby predictable nz team will win it for the next 20 yrs urc will have 10 different winners in 12 yrs
Hey @Dk good to see ya bruh.....tricky one you got there ....Stormers, Munster, Glasgow in a row, 3 different nations in 3 different years (22, 23, 24) .... gunna give an answer after a few more rounds
The problem with Super Rugby is that a NZ team will most likely be the champions again while the URC has had 3 different champions from 3 different countries in 3 seasons. The URC is much more competitive than Super Rugby. The URC is only growing year on year and will eventually be the number 1 Rugby Union League in the the world.
Sacha FM is a flyhalf/fullback/centre...definitely not a scrumhalf 9:17 I hated leaving SuperRugby, because it was undoubtedly the best and most entertaining club/provincial rugby comp I had ever seen through the Super10/Super12 years...but times changed, SuperRugby lost its glimmer...and ultimately it was the right decision for SA Rugby to move north, especially considering all the politics going on behind the scenes at SANZAR
@@ClutchRugbyXV Yes. And they do it again in summer, but that gets around 40,000. Saracens do 55,000 in Tottenham stadium when they host harlequins. Leinster will do 80,000 this weekend. Toulouse play some games in the larger stadium but is sadly only 33,000 but last time they played there the demand was far higher, as 90,000 people tried to get tickets. Toulouse also had expansion plans to go to 40,000 but that fell through. This one i am not a familiar with but I believe Toulon vs Toulouse get around 40,000 in Marseille stadium. La Rochelle would expand, but don’t have the space. A large proportion of the 16,000 seats are season tickets, for which the waitlist i’ve heard is about 2 years. However there are sadly clubs the complete polar opposite like Newcastle and Sale who get around 5,000. And zebre even less
@@ClutchRugbyXV Also a few years back, The Top 14 final was held in spain in Camp Nou. Still holds club rugby record attendance at 99,000. (unless there was one higher before health and safety was a thing 😂)
hahaha it starts with a biased comments comparing attendance in one top URC game with averages in Premiership and top 14 From the start i knew it was flawed
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@@reeld99 Lions will always have an empty looking stadium due to how dangerous the location surrounding is. Capacity of these big SA stadiums are all 50k+ so some can look empty as the camera angles face away from the sun (same reason the fans sit out of the sunny side of the stadium) There are still good attendances at those games. A few other issues included the Currie Cup Final, and Rugby Championship running into the opening of the URC - Scheduling needs a slight fix. Welsh teams have been consistently poor sadly in attendance due to their poor management financially and performances on the Field. Cardiff has started to look promising again at least.
No judgment here in terms of your pronunciation of Mngomezulu as some South Africans struggle but calling him a scrumhalf? Interesting video nonetheless
If only SA fans can get behind our teams and fill up those empty stadiums.. really heartbreaking to see. Some fixtures like Stormers vs Bulls pulls the fans.. but still- way too empty
@@ClutchRugbyXV not as many games that are phoned in by sending B or C squads like what happens in URC, SR and Prem. It does happen but to a much lessor degree.
I don't think he ever said that. Not even implied in the title. The point of the video was to analyse SA's impact into creating what the URC has become, in that case it is mostly South Africa. Or do you think it's the English lapdog Welsh or hit and miss Italians that boosted it to sky high records. Just eat the humble pie bud. Scotland and Ireland are always solid as well.
@@ClutchRugbyXV I will just because I was personally asked. Plus your content is solid. This was my first vid and I watched a couple others, look forward to seeing you skyrocket in the youtube rugby scene, which you almost definitely will. The recipe from the current trends and an educated guess is don't hate on the boks and admire what SA are doing and you'll be golden, worked for Eggchasers, Timm all the way. But you're solid too bru.
I'm sorry but the Top 14 is the Top 14. The rivalries, the stars constantly moving to France, the atmosphere... There's no way the Global Warming League gets to compete with that
@maxcfalcao Top 14 here mate, so I hear ya, in fact the French domestic scene in general, is set up for only good things(on that note one cannot disregard the good things URC are set up for) They have more than 5 tiers and with their super awesome Promotion Relegation system, it means every team has to fight for every game, nobody wants to drop, but everybody wants to go 🆙
@@ClutchRugbyXV South African home games aren't much better outside of derby's. couple thousand for the recent games, and for the games when the Springboks aren't playing they still aren't half the capacity of the stadiums despite millions living in the cities.
Your initial comparison is biased: you're comparing attendance averages to a the attendance to single match. This makes no sense. As others have noted, Irish teams can fill large stadiums. The same goes for French teams: the last Top14 final attracted 80,000 people (and twice as many could have been sold out if the stadium had been bigger). The impact of South African teams on the European championship is poor. More travel, too many matches, teams that let games slip away if they don't feel they can qualify. No SA team have reach semi-final yet. They just don't exists on European scene.
Some really bad data given in this video 🤦🏾♂️ it’s bad enough you butcher Sacha Feinberg-Mnogomezulu’s name but you can’t even look up what position he plays? Less AI when writing your scripts next time please.
The NZRU have always been incredibly arrogant, and I hate to say, quite crooked at times (as in their ref, Bryce Williams cheating the Boks out of a semifinal place in 2011 by his pathetic reffing in the GF against the Aussies, a much easier opponent for the winless-for-20-RWC-years ABs in their home RWC) and really deserve all they're not getting at the moment. Stewing in their own juice.
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who is gonna walk away with the URC🏆 this year❓❓❓
so far its been
3 teams from 3 nations in 3 years
Stormers/S.Africa (22) Munster/Ire (23) Glasgow/Scot (24)
*interesting note
all the other finalists were South African teams❗❗❗
@@ClutchRugbyXV Even as a South African I really don't care that much. Despite what some Frenchmen say, it is turning into an amazing league with some outstanding performances - I mean for heaven's sake, Glasgow going to Loftus to win the title last season was just fantastic (even if their coach is a Saffer) - and a sign that it's going to get better and better. Great for rugby all round. Long may both the URC and rugby union keep on an upward path.
@@stevedavidson666 Bulls looking very good this season but as always Leinster are always up there as THE premier contender
Bulls
@sinenhlanhlamlondo8013 The wont make the final so the cant win it😂😂😂
@@sinenhlanhlamlondo8013 Leinster maybe.....
As a South African I've loved watching the urc so far 👌👌
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Me too and we dint want a merger with premiership
Leinster v munster this weekend has 70,000 tickets sold!
Imagine the atmosphere that's gonna be at that game
seriously major!!
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@wlk2408 I couldn't disagree with you less. Having said that I'm a Munster man...
@@darnellengelbrecht4400 hey Munster Man ✊
@@wlk2408 , *checks weather forecast*, *checks wife’s availability*, *pull up Blue Peter from speed dial*, *makes reservation*
Time zone wise it is also much easier to follow and watch. Great move, SA!
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Totally agree that the URC is the best league in the world, and the Saffer teams have added a whole new level of play to all the teams. For Glasgow to win at Loftus in the last final (OK, OK with an SA coach!) was great for the game as a whole, the URC as a whole, and was a fantastic game itself!! Long may it continue to go higher and higher.
Explain to me how it can be the best league in the world yet the last 4 champions cup are French, and 3 of the last 4 challenge cup belong to Top14 clubs, all that while having the longest league with actual relegation, meaning that low ranked clubs actually play every game like if it was a final to them. Not to mention the average crowd attendance nor the TV rights and audience
@@08padam Erm, because it's got five countries' teams playing in it, and the World Champions (two tournaments running) teams too, and it's only just warming up, and the area is spread all over EMEA not just in one little country? And that's just for starters.
@@stevedavidson666 Well once again they get bullied by French clubs in the champions cup (while they play much more games in their domestic league), the TV rights are nothing compared to Top 14, which is a proper league with relegation. And how can the world champions be that bad at elite club level then ? They didn’t even reach a semi. Appart from Leinster, all the top clubs in the champions cup are French.
@@08padam So what? The SA club teams do incredibly well in the URC, while the so-called European Championship seems to be falling apart. In fact, the Bulls sent a B team to play Northampton last season in the QF because the URC was far more important to them, and they went on to lose an amazing final in Pretoria against the staggeringly good Glasgow team (coached by a South African) who just today only lost to the Sharks in Durban by 4 points. Sorry mate, but your rugby really isn't up to much. And you couldn't even win your home ground RWC by cheating South Africa out of staging it.
@@stevedavidson666 so you’re the best because you lost to fucking Glasgow hahaha ? And what about the sharks who got hammered by Toulouse with more than 50 pts ?
And about cheating, wanna talk about Kwagga’s last penalty in the 1/4 ? Or the 95 WC, when France got 4 tries disallowed in the semi against SA, the whole NZ team mysteriously sick before the final and god knows how many boke either dead or in a wheelchair because of steroids. You guys are unbelievable
Right decision to make the switch they are valued partners and make the URC more competitive.
@@ciaranbrk yup, a win win situation
Yeah agreed
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Springboks/Stormers supporter here...
Thank you for the positive video and good news all round! 👍👍😁😉
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@@budyza180 go storm✊
What do you think of the Stormers chances this season ? I'm a Stormers fan too
yeah @Dk I watched their latest game, and was quite surprised at how they put their game together, particularly impressive was their TIGHT PHASES OF LOOSE PLAY!! which led to some tries, i think
@@ClutchRugbyXV Done...!
even as a SA fan, those scenes of Glasgow winning the URC puts a smile on my face, as you can see how much it meant to them
Glasgow and thanks for comments
As a Saffa Love watching the URC and getting to know the teams from up north. Another positive spin-off for the Bok supporters is that the ABs and Boks will be visitng each other for a taste of the old fashioned tours. Cant wait.
The involvement of the SA teams in the URC has been an unqualified success. It's wonderfully competitive!
is tru
Leinster Munster this weekend has already sold 70,000 seats and is likely to sell it 80,000
@@peadarr that’s seriously big time‼️
If there were more tickets available I reckon they could sell at least 10000 more
That's incredible 🔥
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Munster and Leinster are like Boca Juniors and River Plate, Real Madrid and Barcelona, Celtic and Rangers, AC and Inter Milan. The rivalry is shaped by more than the sport
Bulls fan here, love the URC, it's been very engaging to watch and quite competitive. 3 seasons, 3 winners, from 3 different countries. I was at Loftus for that Bulls vs Glasgow final, and even though we lost in the end, the atmosphere was electric. Not to mention being part of the Champions Cup, which is definitely a level of club rugby I didn't see much when we were in Super Rugby
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oh man you watched Bulls Glasgow, that would have been off the chain
Yet SA clubs are being bullied in the Champions Cup, the last 4 HCup are French (France won the most Champions Cup) and 3/4 Challenge Cup are French, with different clubs every time. Don’t know how people still think that Too 14 isn’t the best league (also the longest, has relegation and huge TV rights and audiences)
Super Rugby? Who needs Super Rugby. Love our Scottish, Irish and Italian partners in the game. Times work, locations work, cameraderie works, player and coaching staff opportunities work and finances work. Works for me.
who would have thought URC would have taken it this far
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Works for everyone :P
What about the Welsh? 🏴
@@RebelCity_ yeah Bro, Go Wales👊
Sadly, (as it’s been bad for ‘Southern Hemisphere’ Rugby) I fear that NZ & Australian rugby administrator arrogance & poor judgment cost them dearly in the fact of & manner in which they turfed SA rugby. To their credit the SA administrators & sides seemed to prove flexible and adept enough to quickly adapt to & thrive in a Northern Hemisphere competition. Everyone ‘up north’ appears to have benefitted.
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It's the South African way: no sooner do we face a challenge, then our minds just can't help but to start looking for opportunity in adversity....strength through adversity.
NZ messed up but ultimately rugby is the winner.
True, I do miss the old Super rugby days though
Spring Bucks should play in the 6 nations
@@Dkouts it does have the sentimental appeal ….
@@anthonylees5735 my school OB rugby club runs a huge 7s competition which is a few years shy of 50yrs-the theme is ‘Rugby is the Winner’
I was a huge super rugby fan. While I’m a Stormers supporter I loved watching the Highlanders, Sharks and Brumbies in Super Rugby and I do miss my Sanzaar family, but the traveling was a big onerous
Imagine a world where the premiership teams join the urc and you have a 1st and second devision urc tournament.with promotion relagation making the bottom of the log games count .That would mean strength vs strength all weekend long.also imagine a world with a week or 2 more set aside for international test matches in November and june so tier 2 teams get more game time against tier one and we can got backto 3 test series tours in July.
This ,my fellow rugby fans,this would be a perfect world.
promotion relegation is one of the main strengths of the French Pro 14
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With SA inclusion, I find it crazy how Leinster are perpetual favourites and still haven’t won the competition. I’m so glad we joined! I’d be open to the Boks being part of both the 6N as well as TRC and using the July and November windows to play lesser tier nations. One year touring the Americas, another year we tour the Pacific, then another year it’s the African continent and then another year we tour Europe.
big Leinster fan here….maybe this time
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Lions ❤🦁❤️ love the urc, now we have game's at time's that agree with us
@@dineshanpillay5944 so yeah, that was one of the selling points in the initial stages
@ClutchRugbyXV you have no idea how grateful I am that I don't have to wake up for a 7 am or a 9am game after a hectic Friday night, few tournaments in and still very grateful, come home 4am and know I'll still be able to watch the lions😭
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We want South Africa to do better. It is clear that the Rugby forming in the north is extremely strong. The NZ and AUS teams are stupid for not joining in on the fun. They will fall behind and the Northern Hemisphere along with South Africa will stay on top. It's great to have our boytjies having fun up there. Look at the awesome results we got when our players started playing for Northern Clubs. I love my country so much.
I guess nobody realised how successful
the URC would turn out to be!
En ek stem saam met jou op alle van jou punte!
SA teams are still warming up to this competition. Even us fans are typically interested in watching the local head-to-head games.
I am planning on watching all the Sharks home games this year. I think I watched 4 last year.
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Hell yeah! Go URC!
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enjoyed it eye opener urc for sa teams
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Saffa. The move was 100% the right thing for our game. It's competitive and the games are more or less in the same time zone. South African players who play for non-South African teams get a chance to develop their game while someone else foots the bill. All round it's a win-win for us. NZ and Aus's loss...
@@MikeSmuts hey @MS you are correct, they did say before only the top tiered players (test rugby) could travel and play in the North, but the URC allows the next tiered players that opportunity!
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Agreed, just hope the Cheetahs can also find a comp to play in but for the rest of the teams it's been great
@@Dkouts hey @Dk whats the scoop on the Cheetahs?
URC is the best league in the world!
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I'm a big Bulls supporter and i can assure you that the URC is a great competition it's very good quality teams. Its also a great platform for international teams to breed future players.
The Super Rugby league kick them self's for dropping the SA teams. I can see the Cheetahs and the Phumas joining the Super Rugby in the next few years.
Its two complete different leagues with two different play styles, and South Africa will have the best of both.
Its going to be mind blowing for the Boks
Tru dat
Remember at every corner NZ stuck the Saffas in the back over a 25 year period.
I've been saying for years the day SA move from super rugby is the start of the decline of the ABs and now it's been proven that SA was keeping the ABs good they will never be the same again and now the refs are also starting to be a bit more impartial and fair unlike in the McCaw era when everything just went for the ABs and blatantly so.. luv the URC
URCs gain is SuperRugbys loss
South Africans have to be the most delusional people on planet earth
URC really feels like the best product out there right now.
Rarely do you find a league where all the teams involved benefit on and off the field, the results are shown even on the international stage. Long may it continue and hopefully they don't let this all go because of greed and neglect just because they're making enough money.
Sharks, Lions let's get those numbers up at the stadium
undoubtedly ‼️
I miss the free running of Super Rugby, but move North has been a big catalyst for Bok rugby evolving. Getting used to the often pedantic Northern hemisphere reffing can be a challenge, but helps the Boks at international level, where as AB's & Aus have to adapt much more to interpretations, as their domestic refs can't officiate their international games
@@garygrewe2008 valid and yeah those Aussie teams could spin the ball
The free running end-to-end basketball rugby is most off-putting to me....don't get me wrong, I love running rugby, but I love a game that requires tactical superiority prior to it breaking open.
A beautifully placed kick, a dominant scrum, big dominant hits, that's what makes rugby special to me.
@@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641 you speaking like a good rugby Coach right there, Good Sir....and would you kindly subscribe to Clutch!
BTW Sacha is a flyhalf not a scrumhalf. And a centre, wing, fullback...
Apparently the Argies returning to Super Rugby in 2026 may help save face for ANZ (not the bank).
But with that being said, not surprising if it doesn't match the URC atmosphere that South Africa is enjoying at the moment with the best of both worlds.
it is not a simple situ, hopefully for the game of rugby, something positive happens
70,000 for Leinster v Munster this coming weekend has entered the chat
One of the best rivalries in rugby
@@Dkouts 🤜🤛 booooom
@@MrRugbylane 70,000 ‼️‼️, THATS TEST LEVEL NUMBERS😳
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So good!
Yes Suh!
Lets not forget the SA players, and coaches, who are part of NH teams.
tru dat!
It is fantastic for SA rugby as a whole, and rugby as a whole, too! And I hope (against hope probably, seeing the politics like us losing the 2023 RWC) that Rassie can become chairman of World Rugby - after winning a third in a row RWC in dry conditions for a change - and take his genius, and WR, to another level.
As a rugby fan, I want nothing more than a competition where the top 4 clubs from the top 8 ranked nations go at it. One can only dream
ya got an idea (soccer style club winners cup, maybe.....thats gonna be 32 teams bro?
where ya based at?
@ClutchRugbyXV exactly!!! The smaller clubs get to test themselves, and the bigger clubs have the opportunity to market the sport. Im proudly South African🤝🇿🇦
@@REL-420 Clutch is pleased to meet you bro!! 🤝
"As a rugby fan"...? What other sport fans will post comments on this webpage? Anyhow, thanks for clarifying which sport you support. 🤗
You should look at the bigger picture. South africa plays curry cup. We played super 14. We played tri nations now championship rugby. We have 4 world cups and most of ouer player play overseas. So we have a masef amount of experience that is why we play so good in the URC
The SA Curry Cup teams showed be playing their counterparts in NZ as well Australia in a competition. Will grow the game masdively in SH.
AGREE 💯
URC very successful, that’s why the English Premiership wants to colonize the URC !
as the Premiership is having problems here's the deal for them joining the URC: they would have to convince Wales first to merge to 2 teams (should be enough from Wales), then 5 English, 5 South African, 4 Irish, 2 Scottish, 2 Italian, 2 Welsh franchises, makes it 20 - every team against eachother once, then make 5 "shields" were they play the return game against eachother - total 23 games + playoffs ..... of course the European Cups would have to be scrapped .... maybe just play the winner of the URC vs the winner of Top14 ..... pretty sure that revised URC would beat the Top14 as the best league in the world .....
would choose Saracens, Harlequins, Bristol Bears, Leicester Tigers and Sale Sharks as the 5 from England (maybe instead of Bristol, Bath, so visitors have some sightseeing program ....)
would you think Top 14 has too much $flex for this scenario too happen, just a conversational starter👍
@@loge1884Bears fan here, but I do see the attraction of Bath City 🌆
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Better choice will probably be an Anglo-Welsh comp. Like how in football the Welsh teams have the chance to qualify for the Premier League.
But rather than having the Welsh regions joining, revive the Welsh club teams to be the top Welsh teams again, and disband the Regions and add the teams to the Championship for the 1st season, then the top 4 of the Championship that qualify with the premiership requirements advance to the Premiership
Guys , nothing compares to top 14 .. it’s a fact
Top 14 does have money….but URC atm has leverage in the form of RWC 🏆
@@ClutchRugbyXV I'm talking about fan base
@@Bodasen Bro, I apologise, I misunderstood, those guys got fire in the belly🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not DNA Just RSA 🇿🇦
@@Nyte-Owl in the URC🙂
Willie le roux is still my number one GOAT.
have you watched our Eben vid
I have memories of John Kirwin arrogantly stating (about the SA franchises) "get rid of them, we don't need them". I hope he's choking on those words.
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More South African teams mast join Chetas, pumas
Yes!
I honestly thought the SA teams would struggle more in this competition given that so many of our top players play for overseas clubs. So in a way this has also helped SA's development of younger players since they have to step up to a higher level quicker. Of course with more money in it for SA franchises, SA may be able to keep more of their top players at home (although we are not there yet as players like Arendse for example is leaving to play in Japan for the season whilst still contracted at the Bulls).
straight up....the URC allowed for the other players to tour the North for exposure....very kool
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URC best league !! Says who !!! 😅😅😅😅😅
says the TV sponsors
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Every one getting way too excited- SA will be the first to be chopped as the Premiership is failing and is now eyeing the URC in a joint venture or actually joining the URC.
@@johnfrench741 with contractual agreements in place, I don’t think it’s as simple as that, what have you found out, let us know👍
Tht's just hearsay (not only SA-Teams but Italian-Teams as well) believed to hve been initiated by British-teams as a lot of their Clubs going-under Financially so hoping URC cld be their life-line but not likely to happen.....
URC-Board well aware of how bringing SA-Teams into URC-Competition has elevated the Competition & so are Rugby-lovers so like I said it's all hearsay!!!!
@@yazeedcariem5684 yeah, I did think that was too simple an idea
Nobody wants to prop up the premiership....Poms had their snoots in the air, looking down on the Pro12 (think that used to be URC, prior to becoming Pro14 and then URC).
Now the URC is the premier club competition, and the Poms want the URC to repeat the mistakes of Oz and NZ.
The measure of stupidity, would be for the URC to comply with the Poms short sighted demands.
As a Scottish Rugby, Glasgow & Edinburgh Supporter. I don’t want the failing English league joining up with URC. Too much arrogance over the past decades.
I just wish they'd sort out the travelling arrangements - Qatar Qattle Qlass sounds really kak for rugby players. Do it the French way - I travelled up from Joburg to Heathrow in April in the same plane as the Lyon players who had been thrashed the day before by the Bulls, and they were all in Business Class!
[BTW that was obviously a Champion's cup match but close enough... ]
Also the inclusion of Southern Hemisphere coaches for Northern Hemisphere clubs increases the successes of those clubs
Yes Sir
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You compared average attendances in the Top 14 and Premiership to a one off game in the URC and used it as definitive proof of the URC being better. Reality is the average attendances are lower and a URC team hasn’t won the champions cup since the South Africans joined despite Leinster basically being the Irish national side that has won back to back six nations
the champions cup hasn't got anything to do with the urc urc is the most competitive any team can win generally the stormers bulls munster leinster glasgow sharks ulster have good attendences the welsh and italian teams are not the best the top 14 suck because toulouse are the only winners premiership is very boring and super rugby predictable nz team will win it for the next 20 yrs urc will have 10 different winners in 12 yrs
@@subbie5498 bro, the last 3 yrs have seen 3 different URC winners
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Who do you think will win this seasons URC ?
Hey @Dk good to see ya bruh.....tricky one you got there ....Stormers, Munster, Glasgow in a row, 3 different nations in 3 different years (22, 23, 24) .... gunna give an answer after a few more rounds
leinster or bulls
@@subbie5498 yup!
@@subbie5498both in with a good chance. I'm liking the players coming through for the Bulls like Cameron Hanekom. Definitely one to watch
Probably the Griquas.
As a South African.....WE'RE IN YOUR HEAAAAAAAD IN YOUR HEAAAAAAAD! 🇿🇦 😂
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I feel ya bro
The problem with Super Rugby is that a NZ team will most likely be the champions again while the URC has had 3 different champions from 3 different countries in 3 seasons. The URC is much more competitive than Super Rugby. The URC is only growing year on year and will eventually be the number 1 Rugby Union League in the the world.
if it’s not already so!
Mememuzulu😂
Yoh i spit out Cyril's water when i heard that😂😂
N-go-me-zulu
I could not stop laughing, and the way I burst, everyone around me joined my screen to see. (I had headsets on) 😂😂😂
Sacha FM is a flyhalf/fullback/centre...definitely not a scrumhalf 9:17
I hated leaving SuperRugby, because it was undoubtedly the best and most entertaining club/provincial rugby comp I had ever seen through the Super10/Super12 years...but times changed, SuperRugby lost its glimmer...and ultimately it was the right decision for SA Rugby to move north, especially considering all the politics going on behind the scenes at SANZAR
roger that, it was a syntax error
Harlequins in the perm does an 80,000 game every year
is this at Twickenham....
@@ClutchRugbyXV Yes. And they do it again in summer, but that gets around 40,000. Saracens do 55,000 in Tottenham stadium when they host harlequins. Leinster will do 80,000 this weekend. Toulouse play some games in the larger stadium but is sadly only 33,000 but last time they played there the demand was far higher, as 90,000 people tried to get tickets. Toulouse also had expansion plans to go to 40,000 but that fell through. This one i am not a familiar with but I believe Toulon vs Toulouse get around 40,000 in Marseille stadium.
La Rochelle would expand, but don’t have the space. A large proportion of the 16,000 seats are season tickets, for which the waitlist i’ve heard is about 2 years. However there are sadly clubs the complete polar opposite like Newcastle and Sale who get around 5,000. And zebre even less
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@@ClutchRugbyXV Also a few years back, The Top 14 final was held in spain in Camp Nou. Still holds club rugby record attendance at 99,000. (unless there was one higher before health and safety was a thing 😂)
@@rowan_8755 😅
1:56 "The Pro 14 didn't have the same draw to it as other competitions".
Shows a crowd of 46,000 at a Pro14 final.
@@jimbolambo103 thanks for watching mate
hahaha it starts with a biased comments comparing attendance in one top URC game with averages in Premiership and top 14 From the start i knew it was flawed
Agree .. empty stadiums at some games over the weekend
the stormers and leinster have better attendences than all the eng teams
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@@reeld99 Lions will always have an empty looking stadium due to how dangerous the location surrounding is. Capacity of these big SA stadiums are all 50k+ so some can look empty as the camera angles face away from the sun (same reason the fans sit out of the sunny side of the stadium)
There are still good attendances at those games.
A few other issues included the Currie Cup Final, and Rugby Championship running into the opening of the URC - Scheduling needs a slight fix.
Welsh teams have been consistently poor sadly in attendance due to their poor management financially and performances on the Field. Cardiff has started to look promising again at least.
Comment Below, Who's going to take the URC title home this year? Wrong answers only 😀
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No judgment here in terms of your pronunciation of Mngomezulu as some South Africans struggle but calling him a scrumhalf? Interesting video nonetheless
you are a Gentleman🎩, so you must sub to Clutch🙏.... mate it was purely a syntax error and thanks for watching
Thanks TTTT , the inside and outside half, was syntax, yeah we enjoyed the research ourselves, PS why doncha subscribe and help the channel, Good Sir
Sacha Fienberg Mngomezulu is a flyhalf not a scrumhalf
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M (MMM) go (like Got without the T) me (Like a Sheep "Meeh" but shorter) zulu.
@@BasicKustoms TY @BK !
@@ClutchRugbyXVMmm- gomez-zulu
If only SA fans can get behind our teams and fill up those empty stadiums.. really heartbreaking to see. Some fixtures like Stormers vs Bulls pulls the fans.. but still- way too empty
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Eben isn't in the bomb squad and Sascha isn't a scrum half
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@@Alias-gy3tz thanks for watching bruh
@@Alias-gy3tz Cheers bruh
Sasha is a flyhalf, and hes considered yhe Messi, not Ronaldo lol
thanks for watching bruh, yeah he is a 10,
Should really invest in a women's URC and U20
" We don't need the South Africans " 😂
Donworry kirwan, just change the Rugby rules.....😅
Top14 and ProD2 are both better than URC and it ain't close
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@@ClutchRugbyXV not as many games that are phoned in by sending B or C squads like what happens in URC, SR and Prem. It does happen but to a much lessor degree.
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SA clubs dominating Europe yet when they were in Super Rugby a SA team only won it 3 times. NZ clubs dominated.
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South African sides have breathed fresh air into the URC but they have yet to dominate Europe
you were doing so well until you got to Sacha😭...great watch though.
Thanks🙏
sasha isnt a scumhalf just letting you know
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@@ClutchRugbyXV should make more videos i enjoy u talking abiut south african rugby
@@oompa293 Roger that Sir, Clutch will pass on your words to our writer📝
#RESPEK
@@ClutchRugbyXV W
@@oompa293 but yeah, love it or hate it, right now.....
The Boks are the Big Dog in Town
Saying its all South Africa is wrong.
It's not all south africa but without their inclusion it would still be the Pro 14 which wasn't nearly as well supported. What are your thoughts
I don't think he ever said that. Not even implied in the title. The point of the video was to analyse SA's impact into creating what the URC has become, in that case it is mostly South Africa. Or do you think it's the English lapdog Welsh or hit and miss Italians that boosted it to sky high records. Just eat the humble pie bud.
Scotland and Ireland are always solid as well.
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@@ClutchRugbyXV I will just because I was personally asked. Plus your content is solid. This was my first vid and I watched a couple others, look forward to seeing you skyrocket in the youtube rugby scene, which you almost definitely will.
The recipe from the current trends and an educated guess is don't hate on the boks and admire what SA are doing and you'll be golden, worked for Eggchasers, Timm all the way. But you're solid too bru.
I'm sorry but the Top 14 is the Top 14. The rivalries, the stars constantly moving to France, the atmosphere... There's no way the Global Warming League gets to compete with that
@maxcfalcao Top 14 here mate, so I hear ya, in fact the French domestic scene in general, is set up for only good things(on that note one cannot disregard the good things URC are set up for)
They have more than 5 tiers and with their super awesome Promotion Relegation system, it means every team has to fight for every game, nobody wants to drop, but everybody wants to go 🆙
Don't be sorry or disrespectful. Many of us don't have the Top 14 being broadcast for viewing so we can't comment on it.✌🇿🇦
Super rugby sucks😂...
Definitely not what it once was
@@Dkouts yup, it’s rather sad looking at the empty stadiums, even in Rugby strongholds like Eden Park!!!
@@ClutchRugbyXV South African home games aren't much better outside of derby's. couple thousand for the recent games, and for the games when the Springboks aren't playing they still aren't half the capacity of the stadiums despite millions living in the cities.
Your initial comparison is biased: you're comparing attendance averages to a the attendance to single match. This makes no sense. As others have noted, Irish teams can fill large stadiums. The same goes for French teams: the last Top14 final attracted 80,000 people (and twice as many could have been sold out if the stadium had been bigger). The impact of South African teams on the European championship is poor. More travel, too many matches, teams that let games slip away if they don't feel they can qualify. No SA team have reach semi-final yet. They just don't exists on European scene.
I don’t see your point and that’s just fine, definitely no bias on this channel my friend👍
Some really bad data given in this video 🤦🏾♂️ it’s bad enough you butcher Sacha Feinberg-Mnogomezulu’s name but you can’t even look up what position he plays? Less AI when writing your scripts next time please.
Allen Iverson ?
Just call him Sasha FM & stay tuned, he's going places!
Don’t be a D
Ag fooitog Karen
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The NZRU have always been incredibly arrogant, and I hate to say, quite crooked at times (as in their ref, Bryce Williams cheating the Boks out of a semifinal place in 2011 by his pathetic reffing in the GF against the Aussies, a much easier opponent for the winless-for-20-RWC-years ABs in their home RWC) and really deserve all they're not getting at the moment. Stewing in their own juice.
The worst team Mast play to genst the new SA teams to to make the URC better
It's a kak league😂
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"kak" is that an acronym?
The disrespect for South Africa is real, and we always have the last laugh.