Erosion Control that Works for your Property or Farm....Prepping for the extreme!
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- Erosion Control that Works for your Property or Farm....Prepping for the extreme! Today we'll show you how to stop erosion in your yard, farm or property. Our weather patterns are changing....making it more difficult to control erosion and flooding. Today.....you'll see some methods that work to stop erosion on your property!
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We stake hay bales in sometimes but they can become a mess but work good.
The bottom of the silt fence is usually buried going towards the up hill side.
Place looks great, thumbs up !
Brother Josh if I lived closer I would come help you with your silk fence up
Tell Mrs Stony Ridge I said Hi
I've been having do do a lot of erosion control myself. We get lots of water in the winter all at once and then it's dry. My main advice would be to work more with the slopes and contour of the land you already have to slow it, sink it, spread it. There are lots of great videos about using swales and berms to prevent water from channeling through low spots like you've discovered the hard way. You don't even need to get all hippy-dippy permaculture about it either. I like it because I don't have to spend as much on materials like those hay sausages, just move around a bit of the dirt I already have.
Long ago (1964), near Julian, California, we were taught to allow the drainage (the hills were steeper than Josh's slopes). But we built dams every 8 feet or so, then diverted the water into diversion channels alternating right/left. We lined the dams and diversion channels with rocks we obtained locally. We were shown where this technique had been used in the past and the dams and channels had endured quite well.
Grass seed and straw getting washed away by thunderstorms has been the story of my lift the last two months. I've seeded and reseeded several areas 3-4 times now. Finally got 2 weeks without a massive storm so it took hold.
I would definitely recommend digging your ditch a little deeper beside your lane way but if you do plant something in it (like grass) cuz if it’s all bare dirt it will flow faster and erode out more.
Josh, instead of creating a deeper ditch to the existing culvert pipe, consider adding a second culvert, keep in mind water does not flow uphill, and the low spot is where the water was crossing the road. Based on the rain you get and the drainage area, looks like you need either a larger culvert or a second pipe anyway.
Trust me I under stand about water because both of our hay fields are under water. From a distance it looks like a lake LOL. Dad said we might not get any hay cut if the rain don't stop soon. I have to find some one who is selling hay around our area but no luck so far. I am glad all your hard work paid off for you. Have a great day and god bless.
You might want to dig swales as they will slow the water down. You could grow certain crops just next to them so they can serve several purposes (plants will benefit from the moisture on the swales).
I learned that I am happy that my land is flat! I am in a flood zone, but, I don't have water running across my property the way you do. Thanks for pointing out a blessing I need to count. Another great video Josh!
Randy
Hope you have a good day Stoney
For pasture lands we have installed drainage piping through it. For fields that are planted we have drainage all around to take excessive water away from it to open ditches. You can have a topographic survey down to figure out how to redirect water, but they're not cheap. I've seen gravel levies built to slow down water.
I have some erosion going on at our acreage. Now I know how to fix it or at least slow things down. I have been place straw bales out to slow it but it goes around them. I am constantly having to repair our driveway. The water washes all my gravel out of my driveway over into our front lawn. It drives me crazy. When my neighbor moved in and had his driveway built; he place a pipe to drain his pasture under his driveway. All that water runs downhill across my property and since I am the last home before the public road I catch all the run off. I try to be a good neighbor and I did not say anything when it was first done but now it is wearing me thin. You have showed me how I can possibly fix things. Thank you. I love your videos; keep them coming.
I don’t care what they are technically called from now on they are erosion sausages to me . Love the video Josh great work keep it up ! I love seeing the Stoney ridge farm progress ! Also I have learned a lot from watching your videos over the last year or so ! Awesome stuff!
And at your culvert pipe under the road I agree have a larger wider trench and right before it falls down to the pipe I would put some rip rap stones to stop it from washing out the dirt there
You work so hard on your farm and I know with all the challenges it’s hard on y’all. The hard work is paying off. Such a beautiful place to be and raise some children one day. Y’all have a goal. Keep your eyes on the prize guys. Wendy from Carolina 😇
My dad would say 'he didn't care what they called it as long as it worked". Josh as you said it worked but from what I understand the bottom of the plastic fencing generally is either covered with dirt or installed a few inches below ground level and back filled. The straw tubes are a neat idea.
Have you thought about tiering your field? In Oklahoma farmers use this to hold moisture for later summer when we most of the time dry out. Just a thought.
I do electrical contracting as one of my many endeavors. Most of the contractors who use the silt fence will curve the bottom edge up hill and then add a small amount of soil on that curved up bottom edge of fence (hope this makes sense, lol) which helps prevent water from finding a way under the fence and causing a wash out under the fence. I am no expert but it seems to work.
Terry
I would enjoy seeing a video that shows the steps you have taken in several spots over the four years you have been working on it. Showing clips from several different times It would be interesting to see what has worked and what you have changed.
Thank you for another awesome video Josh it's always satisfying be safe and the hard work looks good
Arville noe. Nice channel name. I knew a fat slob one time from a town named Arville. Small world your channel name reminded me of that old town. Lol
My entire farm is almost completely flat. You made me realize how lucky I am lol
To make your silt fence work you should dig a trench and burry the bottom part of the silt fence. That way it will catch the sediment and not wash under the silt fence.
Awesome vlog Josh, learned something today, I always wondered what those black fences and straw roles were for but now I know, awesome! Keep up the good work!
Nice job Josh 👍🏻 hard work paid off.
Thanks Simon!
Stoney Ridge Farmer hi Josh been cutting my fields on my tractor today and it’s raining here in Yorkshire Uk. I’ve had my stone drive wash out. Over many years. So I dung what’s called a French drain. With perforated pipe and gravel it works perfectly and no more wash out. It’s hard work but it fixed it. Just an idea for you for your drive. 👍🏻
Hi Josh, Where the water is running across the drive. Make a sump full of rocks and another piece of black plastic drain pipe. The reason it flowing across the drive is its at the lowest point and the piece of pipe that's there isn't at the lowest point. I like the erosion sausages and fencing because it works. Most of the erosion problem will go away from the areas you have shown us once the grass is established. I liked the idea of training the dogs to run on the driver side. It saves having to buy new dogs each month. LOL I see the fencing gear has turned up that will make good video. take care.
That looks like it's working Josh.
The Lucas mill is a good bit of kit, good Aussie machine.😁🇦🇺
We call them ECB riffles. Errosion Control Blanket. We have tried lots but what finally worked was rock combined with dirt riffles in those areas. It sucks to have rock like that in a field but it worked after failed attempts. Keep up the awesome videos. Hope u get it controlled.
With silt fence you dig a thin trench to bury the loose part at the bottom of the fence and we have always cold them straw logs or wodel
On our farm we use perforated pipe with stone over in our fields and it seems to work really good
It depends on the soil. I am in Ohio and I have done what you mentioned. The thing is with my soil is that it has heavy clay on the top. The clay prevents any percolation of water and basically mitigates the french drain.
@@roflstomps324, That's true. We did around 250-300ft, 5' deep in my back yard. We lined the bottom and sides of the trench with landscape cloth. Then put 6'' of 2'' trap rock on the bottom, threw the perforated pipe in and filled the trench to the top. No soil on top with the 2'' rock. That thing runs 10 months a yr, not covering the top was key, but I understand not all people can do it that way.
Great idea that you trained your dogs to run on the left.
Smart fix. Easy fix. Thank you for sharing another lesson!!
Josh, with the silt fence there is an easy way for you to put it in. Take a single bottom plow and plow a furrow throwing the dirt up hill where you want the silt fence to be at. When you drive the stakes in the ground the first line at the bottom needs to touch the ground, hammer the fence in against the downhill side of the furrow you have plowed; if a post for the fence breaks use a T-post and zip ties to hold the fabric onto it. Fold the part of the fence touching the ground up hill towards the dirt from plowing so the fabric is now L shaped then cover it with the dirt from plowing.
You should re-structure your landscaping and make a bunch of SWALES to slow down the water. RE-seed and make sure the ground isn’t bare. If you do it right the water go down the hill in a zig zag fashion. Kinda like switch backs on a mountain.
We call them bio logs in Minnesota. Josh you ever thought about putting a culvert in that spot by the road?
Hi Josh keith from fl the silt fence Should have a 6 inch deep trench and bury the silt fence
The silt fence your supposed to dig a trench up to the line on the bottom of the fence and bury it and if you have a High amount of water you can use straw bales and stake them down just like the straw roles until you get grass growing good to stabilize the dirt
Throw old waist hay at the points of erosion, and throw Sun flowers or corn at those points. The root mass is less subseptible to erosion. These plants are also productive nutrition for animals. You could drop turnips and radishes for a cover. They work well for long term nitrogen releases, and hold soil well.
We have some sun hemp to drill down which will really help...I hope....when you're clearing land like this and planting pasture...you're bound to have some issues
Any sizeable rain event will float your rolls. Its a good idea to put your stakes in at an angle and sometimes crisscross two stakes if the expected flow will be big enough. Also they are meant to be buried about 4" into the ground so the water doesn't just flow under them and goes through them and drops out any sediment being carried (the roll acts as a filter). If you don't want to bury them add a criss cross stake in the middle where your channel is being defined. Silt fence is also supposed to be buried. Good Luck and kudos for addressing erosion and sediment control..
Josh , You have a nice looking farm , but you have worked hard and it has paid off.
You want to dig a small trench when putting in silt fence. Or I often throw dirt on the bottom flap.
A very good educational video Professor Josh!!! Looks like your erosion sausages worked very well.
When you dig that trench it might be a good idea to put a retaining wall. That way you can put down a little clean stone, gravel, sand and perforated drain tile and funnel that water towards your culvert. Also you need to dig a trench for your silt fence and bury the bottom. Good luck!
Dig your ditch buy your driveway a bot 4 foot deep and slope both sids and that shod coach your water comeing off the hill that is haw we do ditches at work I build roads and in the bottom of the ditch put a few spots of number 3 stone to slow the water down love the videos and the farm
We used to call them socks. When I worked in construction we had to put them in front of storm drains to keep soil and sand out.
Really helped me out... get me started to stop the flooding :)
You’re probably already got an answer for this, but I didn’t read all the comments. The straw tubes with mesh around it or wattles.
For that silk fence u need a trench so it’s down in the ground that’s how it works and back fill them just like 3-5 inches deep
If you ever have people spread dirt out like you did where the stumps were have then track over the whole area to pack it in or get a bucket full of dirt with your backhoe and drive over it. It will help not to get Soo muddy
They are called wattles, I'm going to start calling them erosion sausages though. Also, if you want that sausage to stay put, put a screw into the stake to catch the netting if it wants to jump up. Thank you for the great vid, keep up the important work.
Enjoyed the video on erosion control measures. Very interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing.
Straw wattles are the favorite erosion control elements used by highway constructors.
That stuff actually works pretty good, we use it at work all the time. Good video brother. Good luck man
Interesting video Josh! That is a fairly steep hill and it makes for quite a challenge to contain the erosion with such periodic heavy rains. Perfect application for the silt fence and the "Erosion Sausages". Technically they are called Straw Waddles but I like Erosion Sausages better. :) Based on the growth of the grass, I'd say you did a great job! The work never ends on a farm! Looking forward to more great videos!
How u , doing! Mr, Mrs , ? I , hope well ! Keep up the good job!
Those are called sediment tubes or waddles. They work well for slowing down water when properly installed.They work best if you dig out a shallow (maybe 1" below grade) trench to lay the tube in. This will help prevent water from washing out the underside of the tube in heavy rains.
Hey Josh good video man I really enjoyed it that idea works it seems like a good idea for farmers to do and by the way Happy Father's Day to you yes you are a father you do have two animals there
Use old or straw hay square bails in conjunction with the black fiber roll stuff (which by the way works awesome in garden to control weeds) put it on down hill side of fiber roll and put a few randomly too in the flood areas.
Always learning from you Josh thanks
Good video! You introduced some interesting ideas! I would use a chisel plow that can make a tiny ridge or berm and go across the slope of the land. The chiselplow will allow water to go into the land and tiny ridge will stop the erosion. I got tired watching you work!!!
Love your dogs. Beutiful shepherds, well trained, follow along, awesome.
Erosion sausage...lol
Really interesting topic, please keep us updated on the erosion sausages.
Silt fence , take a 1 bottom plow and drop it down about 4 inches and roll the dirt up hill, put fence in with the post on the down hill side with the lower flap laid flat, kick the dirt back down and cut off the fence when the grass is established.
Josh I'm sure you know by now but the silt fence works better if u put a little trench. Erosion tubes or sausages works good for a name. U can actually get the silt fence in rolls and use t-post. That's for more long term installation.
You need a small trench Josh to sit that silt fence in and then backfill both sides
Contour plowing a very effective way to control water flow. Makes it harder to mow unless they are graded to be wider.
Wattle, I had to look it up. I forgot what they were called as well. Been 20 years since working landscape
Hello,
Have you thought about running a sub-soiler every 15 to 20 feet on contour to dissipate the heavy flow areas?
Here in Eastern WA, we are all "glacial rinseates"-super fine silt and rock. We get mud storms. Super erosion. Fine grit blows and flows so THANK YOU for your tips! No, it's not fine in the city either-my mulch floats off and crawlspace floods, raised beds are ponds!🤣
You will love a lucas mill... I have had one for ten years milling hardwood here in Australia.....it has been greater i
something to try plant a little oats, rye, or barley. as a cover crop
The silt fence should be trenched into the soil and will stop the silt, but you may look at putting a silt fence outlet with some hardware cloth and 57 stone, otherwise the water may just knock the fence down. It maybe better to get t-posts for the silt fence too. Check out the guide below which is what the DOT uses.
Maybe consider a French drain for the water problem over the road
I think swales would work for that area? Might be worth investigating! Keep up the great work!
Straw wadles
Hey Josh keith from fl They are called straw waddles and they should be installed with a three or 4 inch ditch
thanks buddy
Another good one Josh!
Thanks
Rod
In the UK a ditch is 3 feet deep and 2 feet wide, minimum. Pile the earth you dig out on the downhill side.
Looks great josh god bless
I like this kind of video with the work and update all in one. 👍🏻
We mixed in some oats and wheat with the grass seed. The oats come up fast and establish roots. And the grass will grow along with it.
This is really great information my friend thank you.
You mentioned that you cleared the land of rocks. Can you tell me how you cleared the rocks? A rock-picker or manually? Or, sometimes you can drive a roller over the ground and push the rocks back down. I'd like to know which technique works best as our land grows rock about as fast as it grows grass.
Hah!
"If I didnt have bad luck I'd have no luck at all"
I feel that
Only way to fix is trial an error lol.. your learning an doing good !!!
Just wondering here Josh, what about putting a concrete "swale" across the road where it floods over it. you could even put a small bridge of sorts over it if you wanted. not steep sides but wide enough to hold a good amount of drainage water and keeping it from eroding the gravel part of your road.
Calling for 3 inch's here over the weekend again. NWI Need to teach my dogs that.
Like the blacksmith hammer you were driving the stakes with
I like your name for it, erosion sausage. I’m sure that’s what I’ll think of whenever I see them from now on. Lol. It was funny that while watching your video an ad came up for erosion control blankets by Sandbaggy.com. Your farm looks beautiful. Looks like you’re on your way to getting the erosion under control. Hugs from Vicki in Ft. Worth, Texas
good show, and appropriate these days. i'm guessing more years like this to come. i've heard we're in a solar grand minimum, and that correlates with region changes in weather patterns. and based on the cycles it takes 10ish years to get back to the maximum. ne ohio here, sure can appreciate the amount of rain everybody in this third of country has gotten this year. now is the time to prep it up, for sure.
Your strategy should be to even out water distribution across the landscape. Keyline Subsoiling is a way to do that.
With our changing weather patterns its tough...we had 2 inches of rain in 15 mins day before yesterday!
Farmers for ages have used terraces to control erosion and they work, if built to correct grade. I have installed them with a drop of one inch in a one foot run. They are also permanent.
One hundred foot run.
2 alternative, permanent, cheaper and regenerative erosion options. 1. Swales on contour to capture the water and spread it across the land for higher fertility. 2. Vetiver grass, intermixed less so with Vetch seed. To offer a set hardy clumping grass hedge grown on contour, stopping erosion, smells lovely, gives free mulch, looks awesome when you trim it. Propogates by splitting it's rootball. Space each split 20cm apart. Run another line of vetiver grass on contour parallel above your access road. Use swales to harvest that excess water and surplus water into ponds.
Easy to look at someone elses place and tell them what to do....hard to put that into practice my friend
Good job Josh thanks for info and thanks for the video's
Your dogs make me miss my Sierra she was so great
She was great it was like she had instructions out of the box she would fetch and she was really easy to teach Sit and stay she's really great in herb demeanor she would bark a lot though which would scare some people but she shepherded my first daughter until she was four freeddawg rip Sierra
Great job enjoyed that!!!!!
Another cool vlog.
My suggestion is to make a firm plan on where you are going to put your forever home on the land. Have an engineer come out and start observation of erosion so you can address those issues now and in the future without being in a rush and spread the cost over many years.
Hi..... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
I was thinking making terraces in the fields. Maybe a thought in the future. would take a lot of work but worth it in the long run
....and "that's what happens here on the farm"....😉
Thanks for the info. I don't have a farm, but I do have an erosion problem in my front yard. A giant tree with big , thick roots. Gorgeous, but i the erosion problem is getting obvious.
I don't want to do any landscaping.... just yet. But I do have a plan
I think I'll get about one, half it , seed it. Maybe it will grow a flowering hedge, and I won't have to spend a thousand.
I have used that sik fence before it works really good