Found this on YT by chance, my family and I were at the cabin in Green Valley fri night, knew of the fire (1000 acres) so alert Sat am as it grew, smoke & ash coming in. Thunderstorms/lightning/rain around noon. Power went out. Closed up the cabin & 4:00 pm we bailed. Hwy 330 closed so took 18 down to San Bernadino. Best of luck to brave firefighters & thx for the YT channel. Froggy.
Thank you for this! In Yucaipa, we heard thunder all day, a little rain, then we noticed the wind shift, and we are under layers and layers of smoke. It was (maybe still is) layering over the streets and freeway in yucaipa/redlands. Praying everyone stays safe! Thank you so much for this info!
I lived through the "Old Fire" and my house is in the Northpark area right below Panorama Point which is above me on Hwy. 18. A point of correction . Everything west of Hwy.18 was burned due to the fire that was burning in the San Gabriel mts. that started a couple days earlier in Upland and was moving east due to the Santa Ana winds. The night before the Old Fire we could see the flames from my house that were then near Lytle Creek on the west side of the 15 and it seemed to be dying down and was far enough from us that we went to bed thinking we were OK . However overnight the fire jumped the 15 and headed east. It still might have been stopped in the pass and above Verdemont if it wasn't for the arson fire set above me at Panorama Point around 8am. It came roaring down the canyon but stopped just across the street from us. It then went back up into the hills so Northpark was mostly untouched ( except for a few spot fires). However, as the fire went east as soon as it hit hwy. 18 above 40th street the winds pushed a branch of the fire south , and this is what took out the Del Rosa neighborhood all the way to the 210 frwy.. The other branch of the fire continued to move north into the mountain communities and further east towards Highland. Most people forget about that other fire in the San Gabriels.
new subscriber here. This is really great content! I lived in Santa Rosa during the Tubbs fire. I am now in the South Bay in So Cal. I have had so many experience with fire in the past 10 yrs. It's hard to find people to talk with that really understand fire behavior and patterns. Thank you
Welcome Tim Chavez. Thanks for coming up with Zeke this evening. Been keeping my eye on this fast mover. Was wondering about Arrowhead Rim Running Springs and Crestline communities. More big Paradise mazes with Magalia like minimal egress. Scary. Folks need to get out ahead of it. Upslope with fast fuels. Nightmare. Davis Creek also bad today. 👋👱♀️🇺🇲
We evacuated from arrowbear lake. Ok unless the storms and winds are bad tonight . Firefighters are doing a great job holding the line to protect our homes 💙
I live in Banning, my in laws almost got burned out by the El Dorado fire and the one just before or after that. A highly informative discussion. Thanks.
@TheLookout1 zeke, can we get an update on the line fire today if you have time! Current NorCal-er, born and raised in lake arrowhead, still have lots of family and friends there and have been keeping them updated. Thank you for all you do! Big fan
Zeke, I have spent some time this evening looking at the Line fire. What I have seen is that the fire is burning over 17,000 acres and is 0% contained. What I also see is that the winds are going from North to south, or east to west. So the possibility is that this fire could easily head into populated areas. As you put it, can’t hardly look at this without getting the willies.
If I remember well, there have been four big fires on the front-country (south side) of the San Bernardino Mtns. (National Forest) starting 1999. The biggest was the Old Fire in October 2003 that climbed up from lower Waterman Canyon and crossed Hwy. 18 near Skyforest to destroy most of Cedar Glen. All other fires were further east near Hwy. 330 and Hwy. 38. I too fear the potential of this fire for Running Springs.
I’m hearing about a lot of car accidents happening with how fast the mountain citizens are running. And the people up here feel like most of the effort to stop the fire is at the bottom of the mountain and all of that dry brush on the mountain and dead trees from drought will burn if they don’t hurry to stop it before it hits the mountain communities. We need as much air support as we can get for the steep mountain hillsides.
We used to have a cabin up in Cedarpines Park (northwest of Crestline)...almost lost it in the "old fire" back in 2003...finally sold it 3 years ago as the fire threat not going away and getting worse.
Fire popped off today. I went through the Old Fire first hand at Sterling and Foothill saving houses. I’ve been looking at the mountains every day just waiting for something to kick off. It was bound to happen.
Mill creek is just east of Mentone and mountain home village is the next town up the canyon. Just before mountain home village, the highway sharply goes north steeply up towards Angeles Oaks and then on to Big Bear.
Forest Falls gets me nervous 😓. I worry about the families up there. There is only one way out. I only work up there and was up there last night with the Heavy lightening and Big view of the Burning mountain.
5 minutes into your video and I get this alert on my phone: S.B County Sheriff: Fire in your area. The areas of Cedar Glen, Lake Arrowhead, Crestline, and Valley of Enchantment are under an evacuation WARNING. ⚠️ Worried now.
My family has a home in Lake Arrowhead and i work in highland on the first exit going north on hwy 330. Was watching the fire today. Looked like a movie scene with all the fire fighting assets on the fire. Hope they get this under control. The wind in highland has been non existent. Seems as those that doesn't matter when it is 114°. And only barely hits the 80°s at night.
@@kathrynknox6189 I’m sorry, I just saw your comment now. I’m still here at my home in crestline, we still have the evacuation WARNING, but not an order, yet. I’ve been anxiously staring out the window at the farthest mountain ridges I can see. We had a lot of thunder earlier, how are you guys going over there?
The forest service hasn’t done any meaningful fuel reduction projects around any of these communities. I was on a strike team for initial attack and extended attack during the old fire and now own a forestry company specializing in fuel reduction. That forest is the most neglected and absolutely puzzles me that no one on that forest has taken advantage after the old fire created a clean slate to start over.
The Old Fire was started by Mr. Fowler (forgot his first name) who had a revenge motive over a drug deal and started the fire near the tiny enclave of houses on Lower Waterman Canyon Rd.
I ride enduros on fireroads in that area and I have noticed most fire roads have not graded in the last few years compared to the past, heavy 4 wheeling to get thru washouts
Between the wet weather in 2018 and Tropical Storm Hilary and all the snow we got this past winter, I've seen lots of washouts all over the San Bernardino mountains.
Great video, Don is a wise dude. That fire is aligned in the Santa Ana River and has a bead on Bear Creek and Butler Peak. I don’t believe that’s burned since 1980 (as my dad pointed out while he and my grandfather ate the smoke while watching a race at the old Ontario Speedway).
It’s crazy looking back on this when it was 7000 acres… and it burned 44,000 acres and the Bridge Fire exploded in the Angeles forest around the same time at 54,000 acres. Fire behavior locally is just so extreme.
nope it's already at 17000+ and running springs, arrowbear are evacuated and Lake Arrowhead, Crestline and Valley of Enchantment are on evacuated warning. We're all getting g ready to go. I'm in Crestline. its 6:14 am Sunday morning. And it's jumped the 330.
I was watching a live show of the line fire they had 3 choppers two of the small choppers and one of the big choppers. Can you tell me why would a chopper just leave the fire for at least one hour change city name on chopper as seen on flightradar24 ? The big chopper did come back. the line fire was only 279 acres.
Tim said not likely, but they need to be prepared depending on westerly winds on Tuesday. Those communities up there from Crestline to Arrowhead and beyond are densely populated with narrow roads. It could be worse then Paradise. Lets hope its doesn't happen, but ppl should start preparing with a plan and be ready if they have to evac quickly. We recently got lucky in Hesperia as 2 C-130s had arrived at San Bernardino airport to load retardent from Point Magu. They diverted them to us to knock down a potentially deadly fire before it blew up.
I been watching from work at the intersection of 330 and highland all day. None stop drops from helicopters (twin blades) and dc 10s dropping foschec. They are working hard. Always see that spotter up there. Big benefit in having San Bernardino airport to rewater these resources so close.
Just a question! How does a natural wildfire that reaches a maximum temperature of 1, 427 degrees melt glass, aluminum wheels an engine blocks on a car? As well as toilets sinks and bathtubs? Who’s foolin who? Have you listened to Robert Brame the arborist? Obviously not or you would no the answer!
Great job from my old boss! Fire was 3000 at 9 this morning, 7000 by 230pm, and 17000+ at11pm tonight. Just like he called it. This thing is going BIG
Found this on YT by chance, my family and I were at the cabin in Green Valley fri night, knew of the fire (1000 acres) so alert Sat am as it grew, smoke & ash coming in. Thunderstorms/lightning/rain around noon. Power went out. Closed up the cabin & 4:00 pm we bailed. Hwy 330 closed so took 18 down to San Bernadino. Best of luck to brave firefighters & thx for the YT channel. Froggy.
Great guest, great info, great public service. Thank you, Lookout.
We just found your channel during this fire season! Thank you for your service.
Smartest man I’ve ever had the pleasure of working for
Thank you for this! In Yucaipa, we heard thunder all day, a little rain, then we noticed the wind shift, and we are under layers and layers of smoke. It was (maybe still is) layering over the streets and freeway in yucaipa/redlands. Praying everyone stays safe! Thank you so much for this info!
Appreciate both of you and it is great to hear such fire behavior wisdom. My internet in Klamath is like Orleans.
Shout out to Tim and Zeke. I like your comments about raising people's fire awareness. Your channel is instrumental with that.
Thank you very much I appreciate your
Pray for heavy rain with no lightning.
Thank you Tim & Zeke for this
I lived through the "Old Fire" and my house is in the Northpark area right below Panorama Point which is above me on Hwy. 18. A point of correction . Everything west of Hwy.18 was burned due to the fire that was burning in the San Gabriel mts. that started a couple days earlier in Upland and was moving east due to the Santa Ana winds. The night before the Old Fire we could see the flames from my house that were then near Lytle Creek on the west side of the 15 and it seemed to be dying down and was far enough from us that we went to bed thinking we were OK . However overnight the fire jumped the 15 and headed east. It still might have been stopped in the pass and above Verdemont if it wasn't for the arson fire set above me at Panorama Point around 8am. It came roaring down the canyon but stopped just across the street from us. It then went back up into the hills so Northpark was mostly untouched ( except for a few spot fires). However, as the fire went east as soon as it hit hwy. 18 above 40th street the winds pushed a branch of the fire south , and this is what took out the Del Rosa neighborhood all the way to the 210 frwy.. The other branch of the fire continued to move north into the mountain communities and further east towards Highland. Most people forget about that other fire in the San Gabriels.
Great info and better guest w history. Eyes on the fire know.
new subscriber here. This is really great content! I lived in Santa Rosa during the Tubbs fire. I am now in the South Bay in So Cal. I have had so many experience with fire in the past 10 yrs. It's hard to find people to talk with that really understand fire behavior and patterns. Thank you
Welcome Tim Chavez. Thanks for coming up with Zeke this evening. Been keeping my eye on this fast mover. Was wondering about Arrowhead Rim Running Springs and Crestline communities. More big Paradise mazes with Magalia like minimal egress. Scary. Folks need to get out ahead of it. Upslope with fast fuels. Nightmare. Davis Creek also bad today. 👋👱♀️🇺🇲
We evacuated from arrowbear lake. Ok unless the storms and winds are bad tonight . Firefighters are doing a great job holding the line to protect our homes 💙
@@K9_NINA GODSPEED all firefighters. Difficult watch duty. Organize community thank yous. 👋👱♀️
Thank you Tim grew up down there my brother is in colton. The fire moving so fast. Northern calif. Kust got theough this laat big one .
I live in Banning, my in laws almost got burned out by the El Dorado fire and the one just before or after that. A highly informative discussion. Thanks.
@TheLookout1 zeke, can we get an update on the line fire today if you have time! Current NorCal-er, born and raised in lake arrowhead, still have lots of family and friends there and have been keeping them updated. Thank you for all you do! Big fan
That was a cool interview. Thanks, I really learned alot. ❤
Great show - a guest!!
Zeke, I have spent some time this evening looking at the Line fire. What I have seen is that the fire is burning over 17,000 acres and is 0% contained. What I also see is that the winds are going from North to south, or east to west. So the possibility is that this fire could easily head into populated areas. As you put it, can’t hardly look at this without getting the willies.
Such valuable insight . TY
I always learn something on your channel
Capt Tim! Hedman said “He’s THE Man!👍
That was very interesting. Thank you so much!
I am a new subscriber.
If I remember well, there have been four big fires on the front-country (south side) of the San Bernardino Mtns. (National Forest) starting 1999. The biggest was the Old Fire in October 2003 that climbed up from lower Waterman Canyon and crossed Hwy. 18 near Skyforest to destroy most of Cedar Glen. All other fires were further east near Hwy. 330 and Hwy. 38.
I too fear the potential of this fire for Running Springs.
I live in Hesperia, the smoke has been bad today here. And looks alot bigger than yesterday.
I’m hearing about a lot of car accidents happening with how fast the mountain citizens are running. And the people up here feel like most of the effort to stop the fire is at the bottom of the mountain and all of that dry brush on the mountain and dead trees from drought will burn if they don’t hurry to stop it before it hits the mountain communities.
We need as much air support as we can get for the steep mountain hillsides.
We used to have a cabin up in Cedarpines Park (northwest of Crestline)...almost lost it in the "old fire" back in 2003...finally sold it 3 years ago as the fire threat not going away and getting worse.
I bought 6 parcel out in cedar pines park that area has extreme dry vegetation hoping all mountain community are safe.
@@theshowman1000 Just curious, how much land is 6 parcel?
@@gianisoma around 24,000 sqft more towards cedarpines park that’s not including 3 acres in pinon hills and 10,000 sqft in menifee
@@theshowman1000 Thank you very much! Also, there was hail in Menifee today.
Fire popped off today. I went through the Old Fire first hand at Sterling and Foothill saving houses. I’ve been looking at the mountains every day just waiting for something to kick off. It was bound to happen.
Mill creek is just east of Mentone and mountain home village is the next town up the canyon. Just before mountain home village, the highway sharply goes north steeply up towards Angeles Oaks and then on to Big Bear.
Forest Falls gets me nervous 😓. I worry about the families up there. There is only one way out. I only work up there and was up there last night with the Heavy lightening and Big view of the Burning mountain.
@@BRAINSTORMTROOPER11 They put out an evacuation order for Forest Falls today. I hope no one stays up there! Stay safe, BRAINSTORMTROOPER!
5 minutes into your video and I get this alert on my phone:
S.B County Sheriff: Fire in your area. The areas of Cedar Glen, Lake Arrowhead, Crestline, and Valley of Enchantment are under an evacuation WARNING. ⚠️
Worried now.
My family has a home in Lake Arrowhead and i work in highland on the first exit going north on hwy 330. Was watching the fire today. Looked like a movie scene with all the fire fighting assets on the fire. Hope they get this under control. The wind in highland has been non existent. Seems as those that doesn't matter when it is 114°. And only barely hits the 80°s at night.
@@JRay.R are you evacuating? We are in Lake Arrowhead- trying to figure out next steps.
@@kathrynknox6189 we are still here, in deer Lodge Park, just waiting to see what will happen throughout the day, did you evacuate?
@@kathrynknox6189 I’m sorry, I just saw your comment now.
I’m still here at my home in crestline, we still have the evacuation WARNING, but not an order, yet.
I’ve been anxiously staring out the window at the farthest mountain ridges I can see.
We had a lot of thunder earlier,
how are you guys going over there?
Thanks 👍
The forest service hasn’t done any meaningful fuel reduction projects around any of these communities. I was on a strike team for initial attack and extended attack during the old fire and now own a forestry company specializing in fuel reduction. That forest is the most neglected and absolutely puzzles me that no one on that forest has taken advantage after the old fire created a clean slate to start over.
You hiring??
@@finoochoa9568 always looking for new talent. What’s your experience?
👍 thx for the info.
The Old Fire was started by Mr. Fowler (forgot his first name) who had a revenge motive over a drug deal and started the fire near the tiny enclave of houses on Lower Waterman Canyon Rd.
I ride enduros on fireroads in that area and I have noticed most fire roads have not graded in the last few years compared to the past, heavy 4 wheeling to get thru washouts
Between the wet weather in 2018 and Tropical Storm Hilary and all the snow we got this past winter, I've seen lots of washouts all over the San Bernardino mountains.
Great video, Don is a wise dude. That fire is aligned in the Santa Ana River and has a bead on Bear Creek and Butler Peak. I don’t believe that’s burned since 1980 (as my dad pointed out while he and my grandfather ate the smoke while watching a race at the old Ontario Speedway).
MORE TIM PLEASE
I was on the 210 by the 10 freeway at 3 am morning before last by Redlands and it was still 90°.
Line Fire is giving 2009 Station Fire vibes
It’s crazy looking back on this when it was 7000 acres… and it burned 44,000 acres and the Bridge Fire exploded in the Angeles forest around the same time at 54,000 acres. Fire behavior locally is just so extreme.
nope it's already at 17000+ and running springs, arrowbear are evacuated and Lake Arrowhead, Crestline and Valley of Enchantment are on evacuated warning. We're all getting g ready to go. I'm in Crestline. its 6:14 am Sunday morning. And it's jumped the 330.
Great info ❤ . I try to follow but don't understand all terms and lingo .I'm trying
Hey! Chavez!
I was watching a live show of the line fire they had 3 choppers two of the small choppers and one of the big choppers. Can you tell me why would a chopper just leave the fire for at least one hour change city name on chopper as seen on flightradar24 ? The big chopper did come back. the line fire was only 279 acres.
🙏🙏🙏
Sounds like lake arrowhead might be a little to the west of the fire path?
Shout out to Chavez!
We all know the burn areas from before if we've been up here before is it coming to Big Bear or not
I would like to hear the opinion of a Cal Fire FBAN, the most elite unit of wildland firefighters in the world.
When is it appropriate to begin setting backfires below Running Springs?
I think when they have set up fire lines all around
Well past Keller Peak.
I’m hearing there was some downdrafts today. Looked like it on the cameras. Waters
What are the chances The Line Fire will reach Big Bear Lake?
Slim to none
Tim said not likely, but they need to be prepared depending on westerly winds on Tuesday. Those communities up there from Crestline to Arrowhead and beyond are densely populated with narrow roads. It could be worse then Paradise. Lets hope its doesn't happen, but ppl should start preparing with a plan and be ready if they have to evac quickly. We recently got lucky in Hesperia as 2 C-130s had arrived at San Bernardino airport to load retardent from Point Magu. They diverted them to us to knock down a potentially deadly fire before it blew up.
Sure hope so too. Need out air tankers back ASAP.
I been watching from work at the intersection of 330 and highland all day. None stop drops from helicopters (twin blades) and dc 10s dropping foschec. They are working hard. Always see that spotter up there. Big benefit in having San Bernardino airport to rewater these resources so close.
I just like to know if it's going to come to Big Bear or not I don't care about the statistics
Just a question! How does a natural wildfire that reaches a maximum temperature of 1, 427 degrees melt glass, aluminum wheels an engine blocks on a car? As well as toilets sinks and bathtubs? Who’s foolin who? Have you listened to Robert Brame the arborist? Obviously not or you would no the answer!
Don't drink the Kool Aid, brother.
@@josephfogarty2851 line fire they’re getting Maui’d
We got one that can see!
Wait till you see the total damage.
Think bigger like 1997 Dante's Peak 🚒🔥🔍👁️🗨️🌋🔎📢⚠️
That’s not a scientific response. Prove me wrong brother! I don’t drink Kool aid.
This is Waters by the way.
Hah, we'll have you on, soon, too!
Is that Forest Service or Cal Fire ? Or both
Cal fire. You can go to their website and see the incident
@@stevesmith756 thanks, I just did that
P.s on the first they had it but at night they let it go just saying
Things need to change. The let it burn policy is not working . More money, greatest equipment. Need logging and forest management thinning
The Santa Ana river is a trickle, not even a stream, but it is at the bottom so maybe it won't jump to the other ridge.
Yucaipa in danger?
Oh shXXt.