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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @janicat76
    @janicat76 10 лет назад +185

    I never would have discovered the exceptional talent of Elliott Smith if it weren't for this cover.

    • @amee-maymason5660
      @amee-maymason5660 2 года назад +5

      That's wicked! I bought his album titled, "From A Basement on a Hill" on the name alone, because @ that time I too lived in a basement on a hill. That's it. Face value I knew nothing of the man prior and since have listened to and introduced him to many others as well. He still makes my melancholy moods more palatable...

    • @rightleftofthemiddle4240
      @rightleftofthemiddle4240 Год назад +2

      Same. Elliott is my fav songwriter now. Thanks to QOTSA lol

    • @starquinones2746
      @starquinones2746 8 месяцев назад +1

      Same

  • @ElkoSkate
    @ElkoSkate 7 лет назад +177

    I feel like every artist nowadays owes something to Elliott smith

    • @tahatasl5219
      @tahatasl5219 Год назад +3

      are you still here bro

    • @AFormerClarity1
      @AFormerClarity1 Год назад

      @@trendybistro Fuck WEEN.... Ween is not bad... they are very good but saying Elliot ripped off Ween is ridiculous as shit.... Do you play guitar? I have for 16 years and the difference e in the ring is very very different. Elliott's chord choices and fingerings and uses of alternate tunings.... Ween uses cool chords but Elliott would use some pretty complex chords.

    • @henriqueamorim6589
      @henriqueamorim6589 Год назад +2

      @@trendybistro lol

  • @ArkadianDream
    @ArkadianDream 4 года назад +67

    I fell hopelessly in love with qotsa in 2011, totally ignored this cover and forgot all about it, then fell in love with Elliott's music in 2018 independently from my qotsa obsession. When I discovered this cover last year I completely lost my shit. What were the odds??

    • @op-pv2nn
      @op-pv2nn 3 года назад

      You’ll love this then. It’s next level. ruclips.net/video/D5mfpDL_q4U/видео.html

    • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
      @godchi1dvonsteuben770 Год назад

      Same.

    • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
      @godchi1dvonsteuben770 Год назад +2

      Oh, btw, Elliot Smith was a MUCH bigger influence on QotSA then any of them have ever openly remarked on. Listen to Elliots song "A Distorted Reality is now a Necessity to be Free," and you'll see what I'm saying. That big shift we've seen jn QotSAs' music over the years? Listen to QltSAs' music before and after his death, then compare the post Elliot Queens music, and compare it to "A Distorted Reality is now a Necessity to be Free."

  • @friendlyhippopotamus5227
    @friendlyhippopotamus5227 9 лет назад +111

    Fantastic cover of a fantastic song. I'm pretty sure Josh wasn't insulting Eilliott though. He's covering the guy's music after all and that's a sign of respect as far as I'm concerned.

    • @ottifant64
      @ottifant64 8 лет назад +12

      Well... they covered Robin Thicke...

    • @renbelmont
      @renbelmont 2 года назад +5

      they literally made a studio version of this cover, idk what kinda person would go thru all that work for disrespecting someone lol

  • @Daniel-pu9fi
    @Daniel-pu9fi 8 лет назад +16

    Love how Josh looks at Troy being like "Am I doing it right?"

  • @doctorjay33
    @doctorjay33 8 лет назад +26

    i love elliott and QOTSA and this is a cover of mad love and respect

  • @deatheater459
    @deatheater459 9 лет назад +58

    Awww they liked Elliott Smith!!

    • @iggmeister4137
      @iggmeister4137 6 лет назад +5

      deatheater459 everybody does

    • @Sebastian-mr1ik
      @Sebastian-mr1ik 4 года назад +2

      T@Eric Andre because most people look to the radio, Tik Tok, or any other source of mainstream bullshit for their music. Most of my friends who I have shown Elliott really loved and appreciated him but they had no idea who he was before I showed them. Steer clear from sharing this beautiful artist with the likes of someone who listens to Takashi 69/any other bullshit like that

    • @eeplordsupreme
      @eeplordsupreme 3 года назад +2

      @@Sebastian-mr1ik okay

    • @deanyy3373
      @deanyy3373 3 года назад +2

      @@Sebastian-mr1ik didnt elliott criticize his fans for acting pretentious because he shared a stage with mariah carey? youre doing that right now dickhead.

    • @deanyy3373
      @deanyy3373 3 года назад +1

      actually it was celine dion

  • @Snapdragontank
    @Snapdragontank 10 лет назад +42

    i don't think he was even attempting to compete with the original.
    just an homage to an artist he sortof reveres.
    it didn't sound as good as the person who created it, but respectively i doubt that replicating the stone age sound usually comes out as good either.

  • @bacardi119
    @bacardi119 8 лет назад +14

    It is nice to see a band cover a song from my favorite singer.

  • @SillyHello
    @SillyHello 13 лет назад +22

    I'd love to hear them do more Smith songs. His voice really suits Elliott's songs

  • @jamesmurphy6314
    @jamesmurphy6314 2 года назад +8

    What a haunting song…Elliott’s breathy thin voice really is one of the unique things u can’t hear anyone do like him..he was a kinda spooky and mysterious guy..even tho he was very nice and soft spoken..it was kinda freaky what came out of him

  • @konstantincvetanovic5357
    @konstantincvetanovic5357 2 года назад +4

    This cover introduced me to Eliott Smith. Now im equally thankful for that as i am for entire qorsa disocgraphy

  • @AubreyGrahamMaster
    @AubreyGrahamMaster 11 лет назад +46

    Elliott Smith played the song slightly different on guitar than Queens of the Stone Age play here. Elliott Smith's progression for the song ascended far up the neck, while Queens of the Stone Age play the progression at the top of the neck and don't ascend down to the bridge. I got to respect Queens of the Stone Age for at least covering one of his lesser known songs which has always been one of my favorites.

    • @Davilla888
      @Davilla888 2 года назад

      It’s a very weird/tricky chord progression I play it totally different and not as good on piano -

    • @jwiegand1022
      @jwiegand1022 2 года назад

      Elliott played it live with a mix of bar chords and cowboy chords but it's pretty much the same. Queens tunes down alot but this seems like Eb possibly

    • @rightleftofthemiddle4240
      @rightleftofthemiddle4240 Год назад

      To be fair Elliott’s chord progressions are strange and difficult for more traditional guitarist imo.

    • @athen2379
      @athen2379 Год назад

      @@rightleftofthemiddle4240 they play this in e standard while Elliot does D

  • @bolerkins
    @bolerkins 10 лет назад +11

    what a great cover of a great song by great songwriter/performers

  • @AubreyGrahamMaster
    @AubreyGrahamMaster 11 лет назад +15

    They played the correct chord progression, but you have to realize Elliott Smith used a lot less conventional chord shapes in his songs. He played "Christian Brother" farther up the neck of the guitar.

    • @fossilizeddung8227
      @fossilizeddung8227 3 года назад +6

      elliot also used a different tuning... he tuned all his strings down 1 step and used a lot of jazz chords in his arrangements

    • @ArkadianDream
      @ArkadianDream Год назад +3

      This song has my most favorite chords in all of the songs i can play. Elliott's talent for chords progression was a goddamned gem and his version is unbeatable, but i do love the openness of this cover, it's got an airy feel to it that i also love

  • @lLostGems
    @lLostGems 7 лет назад +28

    Josh his voice is so beautiful

  • @zakurodrop
    @zakurodrop 7 месяцев назад

    Super cool the moment Troy started to playing. And love this one.
    Can’t stop listening.

  • @megaton_a
    @megaton_a Год назад +11

    OK but seriously Troy Van Leeuwen is such an underrated musician.

    • @mattmiller4516
      @mattmiller4516 5 месяцев назад +2

      Also a great part time vampyre

  • @auditoryarmory
    @auditoryarmory 13 лет назад +5

    sorry about raving again, but Josh's voice is perfect in this. it makes me want to be listening to this version on an overcast day on a beach, looking at the sea and sky. I love how Josh can bring out beautiful melody as well as haunting, charming rock vocals.

  • @CrashExhibition
    @CrashExhibition 14 лет назад +5

    Excellent cover. I've been listening to Elliott Smith for nearly 10 years now.

  • @leroyatleroys
    @leroyatleroys 7 лет назад +7

    Honestly one of my favorite Elliott Smith songs played by one of my favorite bands. I feel a bit ashamed that I am barely watching this performance now. Though I will say that the tone feels different. Still enjoyable.

  • @shapedsilver3689
    @shapedsilver3689 8 лет назад +2

    I like how they clap for themselves, like they know they did a good job.

  • @AllofJudea
    @AllofJudea Год назад +5

    Josh has those same demons. RIP Elliott and long live Josh

  • @PLueschpuppe
    @PLueschpuppe 15 лет назад +4

    OMG! What a combination, incredible! I love both, Elliott Smith and QOTSA, so - wow!!

  • @barbosadead
    @barbosadead 16 лет назад +3

    "i love this song so much..."
    me too. just great !!!
    both genius .

  • @pr0dd2k9
    @pr0dd2k9 12 лет назад +4

    It's not about playing it exactly the way Elliott did.
    They did their own rendition of it, and that's respectable. I'm sure Elliott would have loved it.

  • @philiptromp231
    @philiptromp231 9 месяцев назад +1

    Christian Brothers
    /
    Lyrics
    No bad dream fucker's gonna boss me around
    Christian brothers gonna take him down
    But it can't help me get over
    Don't be cross, this sick I want
    I've seen the boss blink on and off
    Fake concerns is what's the matter, man
    And you think I ought to shake your motherfucking hand
    Well I know how much you care
    Don't be cross, this sick I want
    I've seen the boss blink on and off
    Come here by me I want you here
    Nightmares become me it's so fucking clear
    Nightmares become me it's so fucking clear
    Source: LyricFind
    Songwriters: Steven Paul Smith
    Christian Brothers lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group

  • @auditoryarmory
    @auditoryarmory 13 лет назад +2

    Love Elliott, Love Josh. PERFECT. i absolutely love this. thank you for uploading!

  • @SheetSandwich
    @SheetSandwich 15 лет назад +6

    I have to say, he does say he loves the song at the end. Just listen for it.

  • @wellplays1
    @wellplays1 Год назад

    I fell in love wirh this song some time ago and just now discovered it is originally an Elliot Smith song, now I want to listen to more of his work

  • @sk8bow
    @sk8bow 16 лет назад +4

    how can you love his music and not be a fan?

  • @mattmorgan4
    @mattmorgan4 9 лет назад +3

    i think he made the gesture out of nervousness, like accounting for the perception people have of elliott when they hear his name, which makes it seem like a weak gesture, even though it wasn't intended to offend.

  • @red-xv5ki
    @red-xv5ki  15 лет назад +4

    I've only commented so much on this particular video as I uploaded it and haven't yet switched off email notifications for comments. So every time someone makes a message akin to QOTSA being a 'Corny ass pop rock band', I feel compelled to question their understanding of music in general.

  • @barneyfromblueshift
    @barneyfromblueshift 14 лет назад +2

    @red157 I think the issue is that while Elliott DID have some bad shows, he was magical even at his worst. The way they treat this song is like an insult, to be frank. Elliott Smith saved lives with his music, and this is like a slap in his dead-face.

  • @AubreyGrahamMaster
    @AubreyGrahamMaster 11 лет назад +5

    Pretty sure Josh's vocal range suits the chorus just fine, he is a low tenor after all and probably has a wider range than Elliott Smith. He just has a different timbre than Elliott Smith and probably fucked up a few notes. Smith didn't exactly have a wide vocal range (or just preferred singing in the mid third octave to upper fourth octave), but used all the notes he could hit to perfection.

  • @killedsouthernbelle
    @killedsouthernbelle 13 лет назад +2

    my two favorites in one :)

  • @gvalentin2767
    @gvalentin2767 13 лет назад +3

    I don't think Josh Homme disrespects Elliott Smith... though he has a very dark sense of humor, don't get me wrong. through this cover it's like I'm seeing vulnerable side of Homme I've never seen before. It's beautiful how artists can connect to the songs of others.

  • @TheJurneyMan
    @TheJurneyMan 13 лет назад +1

    I'd love to see the Queens live

  • @melissabrown942
    @melissabrown942 11 лет назад +2

    In my opinion this is perfection

  • @joepalmer7815
    @joepalmer7815 6 лет назад +3

    This recording isn't the best, however I think QotSA's Non-LP Version (can be found on Spotify) I think personally is the best version of this song. There is some bias there as I am a huge Queens fan, but I've listened to many versions and I really do think that one is simply the best. :)

  • @FatherofMan25
    @FatherofMan25 14 лет назад

    much appreciated. great upload!

  • @TheLemur47
    @TheLemur47 15 лет назад

    agreed..my friend just showed me and i couldnt believe it. i wish they did a needle in the hay cover too

  • @sk8bow
    @sk8bow 16 лет назад +1

    imo, his music is an escape from the sickness of living-greed, fame, the pursuit of power and success. it's about the pains of growing up and the sad truth of relationships as well the beautiful, temporary moments in it. there's more to his music than this. it's not glamourous, but it's definitely special.his music has helped me through some tough times.
    so when i hear others doing a cover of his music, it makes me cringe because it's not the same.
    it's nothing personal to queens....

  • @stellarlove21
    @stellarlove21 15 лет назад +1

    Gurt McDirt, then you obviously haven't seen enough of Elliott's performances. There are plenty where he is not only singing in key but also strumming the guitar beautifully. If you need links for proof, let me know.

  • @kevinlong4657
    @kevinlong4657 2 года назад +1

    Nice choice of a pretty deep cut as far as the ES catalog goes!

  • @kaputfretudy
    @kaputfretudy 6 лет назад +1

    That they don't come close to the original is irrelevant (who could?), it's cool that they covered one of his more obscure, and in my mind, most hauntingly beautiful songs.

  • @joeshow1985
    @joeshow1985 2 года назад

    Please never delete this video.

  • @red-xv5ki
    @red-xv5ki  16 лет назад

    'have an open mind red157' I haven't laughed for a while, thank you.

  • @Capitano81
    @Capitano81 16 лет назад +1

    this song is awesome!!!

  • @red-xv5ki
    @red-xv5ki  16 лет назад

    I certainly agree with that. Same for a lot of the more popular bands/artists I listen too.

  • @Ismorec
    @Ismorec 15 лет назад +1

    So beautiful

  • @TTripp1
    @TTripp1 13 лет назад +3

    I wouldn't have thought, with the type of music they make, that they would have liked Elliott. I'm kind of glad they appreciate him too.

    • @joshuastephenson1446
      @joshuastephenson1446 Год назад +1

      I could really see the comparisons/influence in songs like In the Fade, Into the Hollow, Suture up your Future, and many more now that I’m connecting the dots. Very introspective, dealing with the toughest emotions and addiction.

  • @Tanikaze2
    @Tanikaze2 16 лет назад +1

    amazing cover

  • @SheetSandwich
    @SheetSandwich 15 лет назад +1

    Don't get me wrong, Elliot Smith did a great job, I just prefer Josh Homme's voice. It's a bit too "sadcore" for me, but not bad, if you in the mood for it.

  • @biscuit2702
    @biscuit2702 10 лет назад +1

    Homme is too slick to be covering songs like this, he should be doing Elvis covers

  • @regressmenot
    @regressmenot 15 лет назад

    Same here... never heard of him before this cover.

  • @notlukeharris
    @notlukeharris 13 лет назад +1

    Anybody who professes to be an Elliott Smith fan should know he didn't cut his wrists, so I think the gesture is more in reference to the fans of Elliott Smith, or to the movie "The Royal Tenenbaums", where Luke Wilson tries to kill himself to Elliott Smith.
    Also, keep in mind that when you're on stage and trying to make people laugh, occasionally, you say something that bombs.

  • @PeterLorre
    @PeterLorre 15 лет назад

    yess

  • @StareLikeAHoodlum
    @StareLikeAHoodlum 12 лет назад +1

    People need to stop hating. Josh's remark probably went towards the dark mood of the song. Plus, consider listening to the actual recording, you'll probably change your opinion about this cover.

  • @ShokyShrox
    @ShokyShrox 16 лет назад +1

    I think he just meant its a sad song. Everyone sees these songs diferently
    "One person might look at a picture of New York and think it looks really depressing and frightening. While Someone else might see all the fun things ou can do in new york. I think songs are sort of like that
    -Elliott Smith

  • @Paran01dAndr0id
    @Paran01dAndr0id 14 лет назад

    its so funny. its like if josh didn't bother learning the chords. strumming and muting the strings.

  • @randomdude19
    @randomdude19 13 лет назад +1

    qosta is full of musical genius as well as elliott smith. different types of genius, but both genius. if you can't take a joke, good luck with living your life

  • @AureliusR
    @AureliusR 14 лет назад

    @viddikaka that's a really good point -- their acoustic sets always get badly levelled, it's a shame

  • @schoolybear1
    @schoolybear1 13 лет назад

    Love this tune

  • @BandWagon07
    @BandWagon07 16 лет назад +5

    He was simplifying the fact that this song is depressing, and people cut themselves, and putting the two together saying "don't cut yourself"
    great song..
    great cover.

    • @Dani92670
      @Dani92670 3 года назад +1

      Wow, so freaky to see a 13 year old comment. Feels like 2007 was 100 years ago now.

    • @claudiomargheri2087
      @claudiomargheri2087 2 года назад +1

      @@Dani92670
      Yes thats how it feels like...maybe is actually way more near than we perceive

    • @Dani92670
      @Dani92670 2 года назад +1

      @@claudiomargheri2087 Yes! I know what you mean!

  • @gutaschlussel
    @gutaschlussel 14 лет назад

    Josh Homme is the coolest guy I've ever seen. He walks and talk so confident. Who wants to be friends with him? o/

  • @Grungerocker4489
    @Grungerocker4489 13 лет назад

    @tim035 I wasn't trying to be profound. It was just an opinion. I will admit, "dying" may have been a bit strong. It's just music, to me, over the last 10 or so years has started to lack honest passion, and is becoming more about just getting on the radio. And of course with a few exceptions. Elliott and QOTSA are both great. I was just saying we'd rather pick sides than support the music. But again, thats just my opinion. Either way, thank you for your kind and caring words.

  • @jthesik8132
    @jthesik8132 7 лет назад +1

    When playing live, you are gonna have your off days. That's just the way she goes. Did this live version sound the best? No. And that's ok, they ARE human. Personally I think the studio version is absolutely awesome though. If you know anything about Homme, he has a huge revere and respect for the music that influenced him and music in general. This guy is ALWAYS making some new awesome project and experimenting musically. He is a musician's musician, and I say this as a musician myself.

  • @user-dh2kn1qc6y
    @user-dh2kn1qc6y 6 лет назад +2

    This is whole nother side to Josh I've never seen. I like.

    • @Swashbuckler9x
      @Swashbuckler9x 5 лет назад

      That's interesting, can I ask what you mean by that a little more? because I have a feeling I've got some vids you'd love to know about

  • @Rennfahrer555
    @Rennfahrer555 16 лет назад

    never thought about it that way

  • @elcuerpoesunmomento
    @elcuerpoesunmomento 10 лет назад +3

    Genios de la existencia humana.

  • @MusclesfromB
    @MusclesfromB 16 лет назад

    he might have been talking about the "slitt his wrists" sign Josh did at 0:47 and i have to agree although i really like the queens this was uncalled for

  • @theradhoodx
    @theradhoodx 10 лет назад +10

    This song makes me feel bleh, a good bleh.

  • @777Liquid777
    @777Liquid777 13 лет назад

    Making a cover is a way of showing your admiration and respect to an artist, so even if he has some twisted sense of humour, (which I like) it's pretty obvious that he admires Elliot Smith and his music.

  • @myriambalagna8764
    @myriambalagna8764 8 лет назад

    y a des super voix qui marque !!! ....

  • @iamLizardJohnny
    @iamLizardJohnny 15 лет назад +1

    something i would love to hear;
    josh homme acoustic album
    he's got a beautiful voice when you take out the low-tuned fuzz
    haha
    not that i dont love queens, but an acoustic album would be lovely!

  • @pepe7drum
    @pepe7drum 7 лет назад

    Rest in peace Elliot ❤️

  • @TakeItBrendanLSD
    @TakeItBrendanLSD 12 лет назад

    i think they purposly pick guitars that make them look even bigger. except that one hollowbody homme uses on lullabies. that thing must be massive.

  • @kristendolan7165
    @kristendolan7165 6 лет назад +2

    Why am I just seeing this

  • @VincentPrice111
    @VincentPrice111 14 лет назад

    @sprinklesonaplane Well, I can't exactly say that you can know anyone that you don't actually know in person for sure, but I haven't seen a lot of him, only that he kind of looks like one and the wrist cutting, so maybe he isn't.
    and yeah, I like to think that too, Elliott Smith only ever TALKED about killing himself besides that one time when he was drunk and jumped off of a cliff
    and he had recently gotten his life back on track (Stopped drugs, refined sugar and eating red meat)

  • @looshkin66
    @looshkin66 10 лет назад +1

    This was originally a heatmizer song......they did it before neil gust and elliott went their separate ways...

    • @looshkin66
      @looshkin66 10 лет назад

      I was there the first time it was played live actually.

  • @JayMatharu
    @JayMatharu Год назад

    They just murdered this song

  • @CrashExhibition
    @CrashExhibition 14 лет назад

    @PsychoKorn
    pretty much, It's possibly still a falsetto, think hommes is just less whispery., but yea along the right track.

  • @MarKOsaurus92
    @MarKOsaurus92 12 лет назад

    I lol'd. Badass performance too.

  • @VincentPrice111
    @VincentPrice111 14 лет назад

    @scotjonesxs I don't know of anyone who has directly made fun of some one's death, who was seemingly mocking him badly.
    There's a difference between being offensive about minor things, but something like that...

  • @GunnerCantu
    @GunnerCantu 16 лет назад

    I was there homie.

  • @jaysonscott187
    @jaysonscott187 3 года назад

    Lol Reminds me of the Elton Joel song "tiny piano man"
    I'm an idiot

  • @abayomi000
    @abayomi000 12 лет назад

    RIGHT ON!

  • @jacksonfilm
    @jacksonfilm 16 лет назад +1

    you can't beat the original

  • @johnno.johnno
    @johnno.johnno 15 лет назад

    Anyone know what type of Guild guitar Josh is playing here?

  • @red-xv5ki
    @red-xv5ki  16 лет назад

    He couldn't though. That's why he was an elementary school music teacher whose student's grew up to post negative comments on youtube videos.

  • @nmaudio1
    @nmaudio1 12 лет назад

    I remember Greg Dulli (Who has often collaborated with Homme) saying he spent some of Elliotts last days with him at a bar in L.A. Maybe Homme also knew him and had a deeper connection than we know about? Just sayin'.

  • @funnyname92
    @funnyname92 16 лет назад

    can anyone tell me where i can download the sick sick sick ep because i,ve been listening to this nonstop

  • @alstain
    @alstain 16 лет назад

    Yeah, red157, i know, they didn't blast it metal style, they covered it in a not overly different way from Elliots. A bit of an OTT reaction from diamondplayboi IMO.

  • @DandyScholar
    @DandyScholar 14 лет назад

    @red157 a clear example of this is that i belive smith is using falsetto for the high note and homme is producing it naturally, anyway to be on topeic this version of the cover is shitty but the studio version on the era vulgaris b-side collection is purely awesome.

  • @Rennfahrer555
    @Rennfahrer555 16 лет назад

    Im goin to attempt to end this debate:
    1. That joke was kind of tasteless but its just a joke. ES is still a musical genius
    2. Homme is still a bamf guitar player but he messes up around 3:28 and again at 4:05. Not to mention this is a very simplified version of the original
    3. Covers are a respectable way of keeping an artists music alive and allow other people to innovate and try different approaches to something thats already been done. This one is cool bc its soo easy to play ;-)

  • @Galefox
    @Galefox 16 лет назад

    A very worthy cover... Josh's voice is pretty soothing, but I'll still have to put the original at the top.

  • @Biglotsemployee
    @Biglotsemployee 16 лет назад

    Josh Homme did a good job on this cover. It's nice to hear an elliott smith song performed by a good artist because Elliott Smith wont be playing a song anytime soon. I hate it when people get all pissy over covers. This isn't mudvayne or nickelback covering so calm down.

  • @InKa4484
    @InKa4484 16 лет назад

    fucking sweet!!!! i like elliot smith for his beatlesque sound and i love qotsa for their mindblowing sound so i say again FUCKING SWEET!!!!!

  • @jamieanderkin7512
    @jamieanderkin7512 10 лет назад

    Damnit I want a parlor acoustic.

    • @Deadbolt1209
      @Deadbolt1209 9 лет назад

      +Jamie Anderkin I know, me too. I like to form factor and I just find it odd the kind of sound you can get out of one with the size they are.