It’s the media fault, people like acho crowing Josh Allen in the same level as Mahommes after hanging that “We almost beat the chiefs in the playoffs, if we got the ball we would’ve won” banner. Changed the OT rule and even put him as the MVP and superbowl fav the next year. Allen has been trying to recreate that banner game since then.
Allen did beat the chiefs in the playoffs. McDermott lost that game with 13 sec left. You guys are crazy. Dude has a bad year under a bad o.c and now allen is no good. How's mahomes looking this year? K.c defense has been wining every game for them. Take away half of there starters and let's see how pat looks. He would be forcing the ball trying to make up for the beat up defense just like allen is doing
@@bauerpower83mahomes doesnt look better than allen this year granted…although mahomes wont be criticized as harshly because he has 3 super bowl apperances…allen is uber talented so anything less will be considered a failure…you are compared to your contemporaries
McCoy is too biased to be an analyst. That’s his issue. He’s incapable of putting his own feelings aside to give the facts or better takes on the questions. Which is why Acho practically carries him along and spoon feeds him to get through segments
EXACTLY!! 😂😂😂 especially if that was like Tua or Dak or even PURDY. (And trust me I don’t like the 49ners.) But Purdy has a few bad games and suddenly he’s “not the guy”.
Joy is irritating sometimes, stop trying to change the question to suit your needs, Acho asked was the window closed for THIS Bills team, say it with me Joy, Yes😂
@@Chris-sn5ylthey always trynna be the cool guys in the room and act young and hip, they mid to late 30s , it's over and done wit, they need to let it go 😂😂😂
They were desperate to win. Rams did wisely trading the picks to get him to win at the time, instead of waiting for him to be a free agent to sign him.
No Diggs, no window. I doubt he plays for Buffalo next season, so the window is permanently closed for this Josh Allen era. Allen has had the luxury of having a top defense and having those defensive windows are just as short as Super Bowl windows.
@user-tn8uu2cu8gbrother respectfully we serve our lord and savior Jesus Christ he has more strength allah never carried a cross for our sins and he also is immortal rose from the dead i respect allah but i want to invite you to come to my church and practice Catholicism Jesus Christ is the king of kings!
Come on Shady!!!1 Every excuse you just made for Allen PROVES the Bills were winning games IN SPITE OF HIM and NOT because of him. The team has been overcoming his mistakes, but this year they can't.
@user-tn8uu2cu8gbrother respectfully we serve our lord and savior Jesus Christ he has more strength allah never carried a cross for our sins and he also is immortal rose from the dead i respect allah but i want to invite you to come to my church and practice Catholicism Jesus Christ is the king of kings!
@LaprasiaSmith soon as she came on I'm like bruh Joy Annoying fr fr . Always gotta re ask the question for clarification then goes and alters the topic like she some sort of expert 😂
Love how much Joy backs up Josh Allen, and the Buffalo Bills, all while getting down on Miami half the time she talks about them JUST to not look like a homer on TV
Yeah I understand Joys point but just because they have the capability and the talent to win doesn’t mean nothing. If they go out every year and get to the same spot or less over and over and over something has to change unless you’re going to be in that same spot each time. It just means this Team of players window is close. It’s Like Boston with Tatum and Brown. “Oh they window is close, can’t win together, one’s gotta go” why? Because they have the talent just not the result. It doesn’t means Tatum or Brown window individually window is close to sun. It’s just the window of them together to win is close.
The window on this team MAY be closed, but because of roster turnover and Allen being only 27 years old, a new window can open quickly. Especially after a good draft or two.
They haven’t exactly hit on a bunch of picks lately outside Allen so it ain’t no easy task especially with the other teams in the division that have stacked up.
Oh lord Shady blaming injuries 🙄. Though in fairness the defense injuries do make it harder to cover for Captain Turnover when he does his thing. If Josh Allen and his enablers just keep writing off his turnovers as no big deal, they will not be a serious championship contender, he's too inconsistent to beat the best teams in the league with his style of play, he needs to evolve as a player - which to some extent he seems to refuse to do do. Tom Brady - "Sometimes the game is about mitigating risk" Josh Allen - "Nah..."
I feel like Joy and Shady are pretending to misunderstand the question so that they don't have to fully criticize the Bills. If you're a professional sports analyst and/or former player, you understand championship windows.
The MOMENT Josh Allen lost that game to the Vikings a year or so ago by FUMBLING inside the one and giving the Vikings a Defensive TD late in the 4th. Then throwing a game sealing INT setting up a dagger field goal for Vikings to win it. That’s when *ALL THE QUESTIONS* began to boil about Josh Allen being Elite. To make things worse it happened against Diggs former team and gave the Vikings a clinch playoff spot if I remember correctly. To this Day…it doesn’t seem like Diggs is bought in anymore. It’s almost like he lost respect for Josh Allen that day. And now his brother is acting like his own personal spokesman on Twitter. Josh Allen is one season away from becoming the next Peyton Manning or the next Phillip Rivers.
No. Josh Allen is in fact elite. He just not gonna win a Superbowl anytime soon. Unless they rework all those issues happening but that takes time. There are plenty of elite QBs that have never even won a SB like Dan Marino, Donovan McNabb, Cam Newton, and Matt Ryan
This season will confirm he's Phillip Rivers. Great player but he's not it. They're looking for mahome's rival. And so far it's been burrow. If the Eagles win this week. It'll be Hurts. We know who the top guy is but who's number 2
@@kevinfinnerty3754 If Jalen didnt get "hurt" he would of been MVP of the league last season.. Stop being delusional and drooling over Burrow and Allen. You probably think Hibbert and Lawrence are great too dont ya? 😂 shut up goofy
@@thesedaze2381 Yea done more but he living off ONE of those games & josh allen beat up on the patriots one season thats the only reason his stats look so inflated
Josh Allen has 94 turnovers in only 87 career games and you give him a pass. Dak Prescott has 96 turnovers in 106 career games, yet Shady and Joy RAKE on him every chance they get?
What a shocker they're going backwards. The AFC keeps adding good coaches and QBs, they lost one of the best offensive coordinators and their defense is hurt/aging fastly. And Allen is turning the ball over too much. It's kind of amazing their 5-5 to be honest
The way Joy just wasn't getting the point was really annoying me, this is a projection, the bills will be solid, but theyre gettng worse every year and the bills have to start paying josh allen his new deal next year, only way they'll be in contention is by drafting really well, I think their window is closed
@@Lnevalied Facts like her and Shady do understand The Bills might get Better but so will Other teams! Everybody not gone stay at a stand still or decline while they get Better
I can’t imagine the bills hosting a trophy cause it seems that buffalo teams are cursed to never win as are any of my favorite teams, but Allen has done great things for buffalo and I can’t believe people are talking about trading him, even though he’s in a slump now
Credit to McCoy for being specific "this year" its over. Joy I guess want s to come across interesting but she's not getting the point home..I think the guys know it but are being nice. Having saying all that, I'm with Shady..it's over this year and possibly next year..rebuild time
What is Joy’s argument here? The Bills winning the division for 3 years has nothing to do with this season. She’s acting like they ran the division for 20 years. The way they defend this team is crazy
Why every time Joy gets stumped she start trying to clarify the question? Y’all don’t have meetings about this to clarify what the actual question is? She does this way too much, looks like she’s either unprepared or backpedaling.
How did joy get this job ?? Her brother?? Cuz she just be talking a lot about nothing … she state stats but that’s written down … but she speaks with such conviction… she clearly there cuz of her brother and let’s say relationships
I wouldn't say them making the playoffs this year is confirmation that it's over. We already know it's over for them to make anything happen now after the Broncos game. Too many issues to fix right now
I don’t ever see Josh Allen leaving Buffalo unless he asks out. That organization and town loves Josh. He’s a savior in that town. Brought life to a dead organization. They love him too much to hold him accountable. Only thing that can stop Josh from winning in the AFC is the other QB’s and the defense.
I somewhat agree with Acho, i think he's wording it incorrectly. This rendition of the Bills SB hopes are done. They need to rebuild the roster around Josh Allen in order to get back to the big games.
He be hating like Jj a scrub but he got status in the league sb winner and league leader in touchdowns means he got busy even if only for a year and shady can’t discredit that so he hates on him in his arguments
@@brandonjackson6323 fr smh and I’m a Eagles/Shady fan but I gotta call it how I see it he definitely be hating on him it seems like he feel threatened by his presence so he always trying to discredit his takes like he don’t know nothing.
Unless Josh Allen had last years eagles team where they can come back because the defense will make stops for his turnovers then his window is always closed
@@taylorhilei Now once their WR's get paid their window really start to close because it's all or nothing. You see how Mahomes is struggling since they got rid of Hill, granted they won the SB without him but that success only runs so long
Buffalo's defense is keeping them from winning and progressing, not the offense. In key moments buffalo's defense can not show out and come up with a stop. We see it every year.
Talks about the Bills injuries to key players now, but when the Dolphins lost to the Bills, Chiefs, and Eagles while missing their star LT, CB1, CB2, RB2, LG, C, it's apparently not worth mentioning and we're just not contenders.
I am a Bills fan, But I know the Bills are done after Monday Night, Josh needed to focus on Football instead of going after actress tail. Its all about Priorities
Bills had 3 main problems this year. 1) Ken Dorsey is a bad OC. His game plans make no sense. He can't scheme receivers open well and has trouble adjusting on the fly to the defense. 2) McDermott is over his head as HC and DC at the same time. Defense gives up too many penalties in big moments. Sean needs to be the HC only. The General on the sidelines. 3) Josh tries to play hero ball too much. It's part his character and part trying to make up for Dorsey's lousy scheme.
At 5 min 50 secs into the video Acho states that McDermott fired Leslie Frazier and nobody on the desk corrected him. There are four full-time football "analysts" earning 7 figures each on the desk. How can they all not know that Frazier decided to take a year off from the game? I am not a Bills fan, I have a regular full-time job and I knew. How much of their time do these analysts actually spend on football?
I’m a Eagles fan who desperately wanted the Bills to win the Super Bowl in 2020 and 2021 so the City of Buffalo could experience a ring, sucks what’s happening rn with the Bills being 5-5, Bills fans deserve a ring out of any fanbase in the nfl that’s not the Lions fanbase (Lions fans deserve a ring more than anyone)
Duddeeeee Allen has most ints since 2018! ... yea Mahomes has 3rd most lol. They're also #1 and #2 in TDs, total yds and wins. Thats what happens when youve played more games than 85 percent of the QBs who are playing rate now. " trade Josh Allen " 😅 Hes 2 tds away from having most TDs ever through a QBs first 6 seasons. Hes on pace for 40+ tds which would be a NFL record 4 seasons in a row. 3 straight division titles In playoffs hes 20 tds to 4 ints and the only perfect game in NFL history. Trade him? Haha yall do realize every Legend QB had some bad records - Farve, Manning, Brady, Marino, Brees, Rodgers, all have had great 13-3 seasons and out of nowhere 8-8, 9-7, 4-12 , 6-10 .. just look it up. Allens had two 13-3 seasons out of his last 3 seasons. Theres still 7-8 games left this year. Yall crazy.
Always excuses. Listen everything starts with QB. Its him. He hasnt changed. They let him go loose. Thats the results. Had they corrected his turnover force ball run always style hed be doing way better.
The Saints?? 3 playoff appearance 1 NFC appearance with 2 ridiculous plays deciding 2 games that’ll probably never happen again in the game of football.
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McCoy on Dallas: Injuries happen, next man up!
McCoy on Buffalo: they’re injured!
Glad I'm not the only one who notices his contradictory takes
You cowboys fans are like ants.
He’s such a hypocrite when it comes to his former teams it’s getting irritating!!
@@fUcYuRLiFeDuKeeveryone is get over it🤡
I mean he can't hide his Dallas hate. But we're looking for at least a mildly objective take, lol.
It’s the media fault, people like acho crowing Josh Allen in the same level as Mahommes after hanging that “We almost beat the chiefs in the playoffs, if we got the ball we would’ve won” banner. Changed the OT rule and even put him as the MVP and superbowl fav the next year. Allen has been trying to recreate that banner game since then.
so.... They jinxed him? He still made it to the playoffs though. And the same problems of injuries crept up on them
McCoy's the one making all the excuses for Allen.
Allen did beat the chiefs in the playoffs. McDermott lost that game with 13 sec left. You guys are crazy. Dude has a bad year under a bad o.c and now allen is no good. How's mahomes looking this year? K.c defense has been wining every game for them. Take away half of there starters and let's see how pat looks. He would be forcing the ball trying to make up for the beat up defense just like allen is doing
It's not Acho....It's Mccoy that's always hyping Josh Allen up. Get your facts right at least hater
@@bauerpower83mahomes doesnt look better than allen this year granted…although mahomes wont be criticized as harshly because he has 3 super bowl apperances…allen is uber talented so anything less will be considered a failure…you are compared to your contemporaries
Mc coy never says nothing bad about the teams he played for pay attention
Yup he's stupid asf
He throws shade onEric bienmy
He was heart broken yesterday when everybody was goin in on him yesterday. 😂
@@javarzshinall9396 Bienemy is a coach, not a team!
And the teather never says anything good about the bills so what’s your point ?
McCoy is too biased to be an analyst. That’s his issue. He’s incapable of putting his own feelings aside to give the facts or better takes on the questions. Which is why Acho practically carries him along and spoon feeds him to get through segments
7:54
“Yeah loud & clear & I don’t think I whispered.”
😂😂😂
Love how JJ checked that goofy McCoy
Exactly Shady always tryna talked down to JJ like he was Jim Brown, and JJ is some scrub!
Josh Allen been a turn over machine since he got in the league 😂. Where that energy at y'all had for Dak
Yep
When he’s played well he’s way more than that
@user-tn8uu2cu8gdurka durka go boom.
Josh also led the league in touchdown every year, when have dak done that.🤡😂
@@brodie983 that's mahomes. Don't lie now.
“Loud and clear man” 7:55 love James energy man, you can tell he don’t play.
He rattles Shady because he refuses to agree w him or get intimidated.
@@ManUntdForeverhe don’t rattle Shady🤣
@@johnomalley7211 yes he do because he the only one I see get emotional on this desk spewing nonsense, James cool as a pillow
@@AYjoy93 Shady don’t ever spew nonsense watch your mouth Eagle hater🤡
I want someone as loyal to me as yall are to this Bills organization.
Bills org and Kyle Shanahan can do no wrong to them.
Joy said bills organization been great 😂😂😂😂 0-4 super bowl appearances in 60 years that’s not great playoff record 18-20 💀
Only team in history to go four in a row
@@kingeaton6620 30 yrs ago! Since then what have they done?
Also bills have lost 6 straight road playoff games. Fire mcdermott
She don't know jack😂
The bills are a great organization since when do you have to win the Super Bowl to be a great organization that’s a terrible argument
Agree with Acho! That window has SLAMMED shut! They are done and doubt Mcdermott even survives and is fired
You and Acho 💩
Injuries are a valid excuse now 🙄 y'all always say next man up for other teams.
say it louder fam!!! If any other QB played like josh did they would sentence them to dead 😅
@@Rrw98dak would be all kinds of trash
@@HalfAGramStannot even a fan of Dak but this is facts
EXACTLY!! 😂😂😂 especially if that was like Tua or Dak or even PURDY. (And trust me I don’t like the 49ners.) But Purdy has a few bad games and suddenly he’s “not the guy”.
@@HalfAGramStanand tua
Joy is irritating sometimes, stop trying to change the question to suit your needs, Acho asked was the window closed for THIS Bills team, say it with me Joy, Yes😂
Joy and shady they both act the same it’s hard for me to watch sometimes
@@Chris-sn5ylthey always trynna be the cool guys in the room and act young and hip, they mid to late 30s , it's over and done wit, they need to let it go 😂😂😂
Yoooo😂😂 acho had me crying " i think i do feel comfortable saying that" 😅
lmfaoooooooo ong acho is hilarious
😂 on me
They were crazy to give Von Miller that contract.
They were desperate to win. Rams did wisely trading the picks to get him to win at the time, instead of waiting for him to be a free agent to sign him.
Exactly…they gave him wayyyyyyyy too much money for an old von miller
yea that wasn't P
Shady forgEt doesn't win with turnerovers in playoffs
Man dumb af
No Diggs, no window. I doubt he plays for Buffalo next season, so the window is permanently closed for this Josh Allen era. Allen has had the luxury of having a top defense and having those defensive windows are just as short as Super Bowl windows.
James Jones is a killer with facts!! Go Packers! brother 👍
@user-tn8uu2cu8gbrother respectfully we serve our lord and savior Jesus Christ he has more strength allah never carried a cross for our sins and he also is immortal rose from the dead i respect allah but i want to invite you to come to my church and practice Catholicism Jesus Christ is the king of kings!
Come on Shady!!!1 Every excuse you just made for Allen PROVES the Bills were winning games IN SPITE OF HIM and NOT because of him. The team has been overcoming his mistakes, but this year they can't.
@user-tn8uu2cu8gbrother respectfully we serve our lord and savior Jesus Christ he has more strength allah never carried a cross for our sins and he also is immortal rose from the dead i respect allah but i want to invite you to come to my church and practice Catholicism Jesus Christ is the king of kings!
This iteration of the bills is a wrap. Their best chance was season. If they miss the playoffs, there will be big changes
shut up@user-tn8uu2cu8g
@user-tn8uu2cu8gstfu
@user-tn8uu2cu8ggrow up
Acho looks frustrated that Joy and McCoy don’t get the question 😅 sorry man!
When joy realizes she losing the argument she always tries to change the argument lmao
She loves to default to - “well Josh Allen 3 years ago almost won an afc championship”
@@d1sarmLike Bro can you believe this woman 😂😂😂
She gets on my nerves😂
Yeah thats every female in existence 😂😂
@LaprasiaSmith soon as she came on I'm like bruh Joy Annoying fr fr . Always gotta re ask the question for clarification then goes and alters the topic like she some sort of expert 😂
Love how much Joy backs up Josh Allen, and the Buffalo Bills, all while getting down on Miami half the time she talks about them JUST to not look like a homer on TV
This the one
Bro joy not a real dolphins fan. She just rep them cus big bro.
@LKS-M9323 whatever the reason, it's hard to listen to her talk.
@LKS-M9323 whatever the reason, it's hard to listen to her talk.
in a landslide turn of events..im with Echo on this one.
Yeah I understand Joys point but just because they have the capability and the talent to win doesn’t mean nothing. If they go out every year and get to the same spot or less over and over and over something has to change unless you’re going to be in that same spot each time. It just means this Team of players window is close. It’s Like Boston with Tatum and Brown. “Oh they window is close, can’t win together, one’s gotta go” why? Because they have the talent just not the result. It doesn’t means Tatum or Brown window individually window is close to sun. It’s just the window of them together to win is close.
The window on this team MAY be closed, but because of roster turnover and Allen being only 27 years old, a new window can open quickly. Especially after a good draft or two.
They haven’t exactly hit on a bunch of picks lately outside Allen so it ain’t no easy task especially with the other teams in the division that have stacked up.
Oh lord Shady blaming injuries 🙄. Though in fairness the defense injuries do make it harder to cover for Captain Turnover when he does his thing.
If Josh Allen and his enablers just keep writing off his turnovers as no big deal, they will not be a serious championship contender, he's too inconsistent to beat the best teams in the league with his style of play, he needs to evolve as a player - which to some extent he seems to refuse to do do.
Tom Brady - "Sometimes the game is about mitigating risk"
Josh Allen - "Nah..."
Casuals are gonna casual
*Yawn* Cool, enjoy missing the chance to get bounced in the playoffs by a better team.
I like Acho and Jones they got into depth and are concise about their opinions. However, McCoy and Joy Taylor are completely clueless 😬
Because Acho and James do their homework before the show. The others don’t.
Facts shady is there for entertainment.. joy there for the simps
I feel like Joy and Shady are pretending to misunderstand the question so that they don't have to fully criticize the Bills. If you're a professional sports analyst and/or former player, you understand championship windows.
Shady and joy are not professional at all
Joy always got Dallas in her mouth I’m just glad they didn’t bite on it when they brought em up
The silenceeeee after joy says “the bills are a great organization” was…. correct 😂
I laughed bc they went to the Super Bowl 4 times and lost all 4🤣 lol the bills r funny
She must be so blinded by her fraudulent phins getting beat like a drum by the bills lmaoooo she lucky she pretty 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
The MOMENT Josh Allen lost that game to the Vikings a year or so ago by FUMBLING inside the one and giving the Vikings a Defensive TD late in the 4th. Then throwing a game sealing INT setting up a dagger field goal for Vikings to win it. That’s when *ALL THE QUESTIONS* began to boil about Josh Allen being Elite. To make things worse it happened against Diggs former team and gave the Vikings a clinch playoff spot if I remember correctly.
To this Day…it doesn’t seem like Diggs is bought in anymore. It’s almost like he lost respect for Josh Allen that day. And now his brother is acting like his own personal spokesman on Twitter.
Josh Allen is one season away from becoming the next Peyton Manning or the next Phillip Rivers.
No. Josh Allen is in fact elite. He just not gonna win a Superbowl anytime soon. Unless they rework all those issues happening but that takes time.
There are plenty of elite QBs that have never even won a SB like Dan Marino, Donovan McNabb, Cam Newton, and Matt Ryan
This season will confirm he's Phillip Rivers. Great player but he's not it. They're looking for mahome's rival. And so far it's been burrow. If the Eagles win this week. It'll be Hurts. We know who the top guy is but who's number 2
I never thought he was elite. Definitely a reach in the draft..
@@mrmack1988hurts isn’t even good enough to be mentioned in this conversation lol
@@kevinfinnerty3754 If Jalen didnt get "hurt" he would of been MVP of the league last season.. Stop being delusional and drooling over Burrow and Allen. You probably think Hibbert and Lawrence are great too dont ya? 😂 shut up goofy
Joy trying to tell former nfl players about football 😂😂
You don't have to play football to speak on it. However, she is just bad at her job. Ugh.
If Dak Prescott was playing like Josh Allen is right now the media would have a FIELD day 😂
If this was dak mccoy and joy would be killing my qb hope they keep that same energy with Josh
josh allen been living off ONE playoff game & the media been eating it up 😂
Nonsense. In the playoffs Josh Allen has 17 TD's vs 4 int's and a 100 passer rating. He clearly has done far more than that one game.
@@thesedaze2381 Yea done more but he living off ONE of those games & josh allen beat up on the patriots one season thats the only reason his stats look so inflated
Speak James I agree with u bro
The ball gabbling of joshy is crazy rn
Man shady I can’t believe how bias he is to Josh Allen it’s just disgusting atp
Josh Allen has 94 turnovers in only 87 career games and you give him a pass. Dak Prescott has 96 turnovers in 106 career games, yet Shady and Joy RAKE on him every chance they get?
Yep it's crazy
I’m pretty sure Allen’s won more playoff games than dak
@@Endzoneproductions17 Not the point. His team was able to overcome his turnovers. Doesn't change the fact he gives the ball away to much.
All these excuses for the bills but the cowboys never get to use excuses lol
Yep
acho shoulda broke out the 'good is the enemy of great' on this topic with the bills.
Bills are 3 plays away from being 3-7... they played Miami as if it was thier superbowl now look at them
Also 3 plays away from being 8-2
Jets, Patriots, Denver
What a shocker they're going backwards. The AFC keeps adding good coaches and QBs, they lost one of the best offensive coordinators and their defense is hurt/aging fastly. And Allen is turning the ball over too much. It's kind of amazing their 5-5 to be honest
@user-tn8uu2cu8gno
Crazy thing is the Bills got crazy lucky last year the recovered something like 50% of their turnover worthy plays.
It’s happened with the rams they lost with Goff revamped and won with stafford
Can someone explain to me why joy talks about the cowboys when she talks about the AFC huh
We are the standard of nfl
@snat508 5 superbowls
@snat508 we going win it this year
Bills trading Josh was a very irresponsible take by James jones
Super bowl window is who is favourite / a real contender. Anyone can pull a giants and have a magical run, but that's not what we're talking about
@user-tn8uu2cu8g I'd rather die than believe in that garbage.
The way Joy just wasn't getting the point was really annoying me, this is a projection, the bills will be solid, but theyre gettng worse every year and the bills have to start paying josh allen his new deal next year, only way they'll be in contention is by drafting really well, I think their window is closed
She a female bruh...she always making her own lane n questions mfs just be blinded from her bad takes cuz she look good
Joys takes been aging like Milk recently😂
She never gets it lol always derailing the conversation
@@Lnevalied Facts like her and Shady do understand The Bills might get Better but so will Other teams! Everybody not gone stay at a stand still or decline while they get Better
@elilandrum2017 she just be wanting to be like "look what I know"
That 13 second Game took its toll on the Bills
Names Dallas, "they ain't prove nothing." Proceeds to keep naming other teams that have yet to prove anything either.
For me, I can't imagine Allen hoisting a trophy. Maybe I'm wrong but I just don't see that happening ever
I can’t imagine the bills hosting a trophy cause it seems that buffalo teams are cursed to never win as are any of my favorite teams, but Allen has done great things for buffalo and I can’t believe people are talking about trading him, even though he’s in a slump now
@@Endzoneproductions17 Maybe that's why I couldn't see it I just couldn't explain it in words
Credit to McCoy for being specific "this year" its over.
Joy I guess want s to come across interesting but she's not getting the point home..I think the guys know it but are being nice.
Having saying all that, I'm with Shady..it's over this year and possibly next year..rebuild time
What is Joy’s argument here? The Bills winning the division for 3 years has nothing to do with this season. She’s acting like they ran the division for 20 years. The way they defend this team is crazy
Josh Allen is Philip Rivers
Why every time Joy gets stumped she start trying to clarify the question? Y’all don’t have meetings about this to clarify what the actual question is? She does this way too much, looks like she’s either unprepared or backpedaling.
What did she get stumped on? She's just arguing that she doesn't think their dead as long as they have Allen.
It's wild to me that Joy and Shady don't understand the premise of a "Superbowl window"
She loves Josh Allen 😂😂
Joy be having some horrible takes lately...also she only disagreed with shady like twice since this show started...maybe explains alot 😩🤣
They all went dead silent when she said the Bills Organization was great 😂
This is the best sports talk show panel. Comes off very authentic.
This is terrible. Joy and Shady are absolute idiots.
LeSean is trying to make excuses for Josh Allen turnovers by saying it’s on the defense and the injuries😂😂😂
Josh Allen lost me 2 bands 2 years ago when Josh Allen couldn’t get a yard against Tennessee so I’ve always wished this slump on him I love it
Good for you
😂😂😂😂😂
Nick Wright was correct on Buffalo 2 years ago
Josh allen is literally Carson Wentz without the injuries, and a few playoff wins
I agree with Acho, the Window is Closed!!! It Closed last year when they Lost in the Playoffs to the Bengals!!
They had a Home Playoff Game & Didn't Even Show Up!! 10 Points Really?? I believe the Hamelin Tragedy wrecked the psyche of this Team.
How did joy get this job ?? Her brother?? Cuz she just be talking a lot about nothing … she state stats but that’s written down … but she speaks with such conviction… she clearly there cuz of her brother and let’s say relationships
u glazing ngl she a good analyst but she missed on this one
So you’re just assuming she’s had relationships 😂. She’s good at her job. They all have terrible takes from time to time
@@myrum2844Good lol?.she copycats Shady on the daily.
@@HockeyDudeJames L take
@@myrum2844Yep. You can tell who actually watches this show and who parrots what the internet told them to think. 🦜🦜🦜
Slowly closing??? That windows slammed shut!
They weren’t gona win a super bowl even if they were 8-2
There’s no such thing as a Super Bowl Window. You make the playoffs and you’ve got a chance.
Yeah it's closing, they have high exceptions every year just to fail and if they miss the playoffs it's confirmed over.
I wouldn't say them making the playoffs this year is confirmation that it's over. We already know it's over for them to make anything happen now after the Broncos game. Too many issues to fix right now
Like the cowboys
@@nadecha5326 bingo
Shady always trying to invalidate James opinion and he ain't having it
Favorite show 💯 listen/watch everyday on the road working.
James Jones is the smartest on this panel no question
Acho is too.
@13:23 LMAO the dead silence after Joy Taylor once again proves she's not listening and her point is ridiculous
Joy I remember you said at the cowboys wear those close but the bells window not😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t ever see Josh Allen leaving Buffalo unless he asks out. That organization and town loves Josh. He’s a savior in that town. Brought life to a dead organization. They love him too much to hold him accountable.
Only thing that can stop Josh from winning in the AFC is the other QB’s and the defense.
I somewhat agree with Acho, i think he's wording it incorrectly. This rendition of the Bills SB hopes are done. They need to rebuild the roster around Josh Allen in order to get back to the big games.
It’s hard to watch Joy and Shady n listen to they arguments. Than Shady always coming at the new guy JJ when he be spot on most of the time.
He be hating like Jj a scrub but he got status in the league sb winner and league leader in touchdowns means he got busy even if only for a year and shady can’t discredit that so he hates on him in his arguments
@@brandonjackson6323 fr smh and I’m a Eagles/Shady fan but I gotta call it how I see it he definitely be hating on him it seems like he feel threatened by his presence so he always trying to discredit his takes like he don’t know nothing.
They say I’m all about my bills LeSean McCoy- Gucci
Unless Josh Allen had last years eagles team where they can come back because the defense will make stops for his turnovers then his window is always closed
Huh
You mean this year eagles?? Last year eagles was blowing teams out by half time
Last years eagles were miles better than this iteration of the team @@Trizzyveli
Bills and Bengals window is closed. Ravens window has opened.
I think the Bengals is half way closed.
@@malcolmreid2135 i can agree with that bc they can actually recover with their current roster.
@@taylorhilei Now once their WR's get paid their window really start to close because it's all or nothing. You see how Mahomes is struggling since they got rid of Hill, granted they won the SB without him but that success only runs so long
Preach Joy!
Buffalo's defense is keeping them from winning and progressing, not the offense. In key moments buffalo's defense can not show out and come up with a stop. We see it every year.
James always spot on man.
Talks about the Bills injuries to key players now, but when the Dolphins lost to the Bills, Chiefs, and Eagles while missing their star LT, CB1, CB2, RB2, LG, C, it's apparently not worth mentioning and we're just not contenders.
I am a Bills fan, But I know the Bills are done after Monday Night, Josh needed to focus on Football instead of going after actress tail. Its all about Priorities
I get what acho is saying.... Basically with this constructed team they're not going to the super bowl
wouldn't say that about allen diggs and the bills. it's remaining schedule. gonna be tough as nails to win the rest of those.
Bills had 3 main problems this year. 1) Ken Dorsey is a bad OC. His game plans make no sense. He can't scheme receivers open well and has trouble adjusting on the fly to the defense. 2) McDermott is over his head as HC and DC at the same time. Defense gives up too many penalties in big moments. Sean needs to be the HC only. The General on the sidelines. 3) Josh tries to play hero ball too much. It's part his character and part trying to make up for Dorsey's lousy scheme.
I love james jones comments here
The Super Bowl was shut after that 13 seconds in Kansas City
Dude joy is such a bad analyst😂 how she not getting the point everyone else was fine and understood lmao
At 5 min 50 secs into the video Acho states that McDermott fired Leslie Frazier and nobody on the desk corrected him. There are four full-time football "analysts" earning 7 figures each on the desk. How can they all not know that Frazier decided to take a year off from the game? I am not a Bills fan, I have a regular full-time job and I knew. How much of their time do these analysts actually spend on football?
What is joy talking about in this segment lmaoooo
I’m a Eagles fan who desperately wanted the Bills to win the Super Bowl in 2020 and 2021 so the City of Buffalo could experience a ring, sucks what’s happening rn with the Bills being 5-5, Bills fans deserve a ring out of any fanbase in the nfl that’s not the Lions fanbase (Lions fans deserve a ring more than anyone)
Nobody deserves anything. What an entitlement comment!
nah we taking the rings for ourselves eagles 2024 champions
It always sucks to see
@@myrum2844I was talking about 2020 and 2021 when the Eagles weren’t on the divisional round and conference championship games not this year
@@spideysg1163 ohh mb
Shady always backtracks his arguments and bruh got excuses for days
Duddeeeee Allen has most ints since 2018! ... yea Mahomes has 3rd most lol. They're also #1 and #2 in TDs, total yds and wins. Thats what happens when youve played more games than 85 percent of the QBs who are playing rate now.
" trade Josh Allen " 😅
Hes 2 tds away from having most TDs ever through a QBs first 6 seasons. Hes on pace for 40+ tds which would be a NFL record 4 seasons in a row.
3 straight division titles
In playoffs hes 20 tds to 4 ints and the only perfect game in NFL history. Trade him? Haha yall do realize every Legend QB had some bad records - Farve, Manning, Brady, Marino, Brees, Rodgers, all have had great 13-3 seasons and out of nowhere 8-8, 9-7, 4-12 , 6-10 .. just look it up. Allens had two 13-3 seasons out of his last 3 seasons. Theres still 7-8 games left this year. Yall crazy.
“The Bills are not a franchise I consider disfunctional” oh Joy you just aren’t from here lmao
Always excuses. Listen everything starts with QB. Its him. He hasnt changed. They let him go loose. Thats the results. Had they corrected his turnover force ball run always style hed be doing way better.
The Saints?? 3 playoff appearance 1 NFC appearance with 2 ridiculous plays deciding 2 games that’ll probably never happen again in the game of football.
He didn’t fire Leslie Frazier