One mother's mission to ban 'vulgar' books - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2022
- In the last year, book challenges have flooded local school boards and statehouses across the country at a pace not seen in decades.
The BBC went to Katy, Texas, where the town's school district has removed some books from its library shelves after protests from parents about vulgar content.
Students are speaking out against the move, saying it's a direct attack on their identity.
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This overly protective mother doesn't realize that elementary school children have access to the internet and have already been exposed to MUCH worse explicit material than what's in these books. She's a bit out of touched & dated.
That's what's so frustrating about dealing with conservatives. They don't realize the world has changed and will continue to change. There's nothing you can do to change that given the prevalence of the internet.
If she wants to protect kids in Texas schools bring a group of people and protest schools that let bullying go unchecked, bullying is traumatizing.
Ever heard of parental controls ?
@@naconaco1 There were parental controls on our devices when I was growing up and they were a joke, most kids are more tech savvy than their parents so they find a way around them and trust me they use other devices not given to them by their parents. They see anything the internet has to offer.
I was raped as a teenager by a classmate. Like many in my situation, I wasn’t believed. Books about rape, injustice, sexual abuse, and other dark subjects really helped me get through this difficult time. I ended up graduating near the top of my class and got a big scholarship to my first choice college. I now have a successful career and am doing great.
As for the rapist, as an adult he ended up in prison anyway. So much for protecting the guilty.
I’m so sorry this woman is taking away these books. She’s not protecting innocent children. She’s harming the children who have been scarred and wounded, and who have no other way out but reading until they are an adult.
For people who don't come from a background that says it's okay for adults to pet your hair against your will or for you to be toppled when you don't want to practice martial arts, they don't understand it is sexual harrassment because there wasn't penetration per se and developing anxieties when the other sex, males are around, is considered weird. When you experience such things on a daily basis & come from a culture where sons having a nightout is okay but for daughters a no-no and give her no education and beyond that she must not flinch whenever males want to touch her, she might get herself into a situation where she might find it difficult to say no to boys & end up having sex when she doesn't even know what it is... I am glad to hear you made the best of it. It took years for me because I never had the books or the material.
But do you really want to imprint this memory onto young children so they have to have these imaginary things play out around them in their minds as they grow up?
@@himawari651 Nobody was questioning if all these books should be banned in general anyway. This is just an issue for the school.
@@analogdistortion Something I noticed way back when I was in school: the same holier-than-thou kids preaching to ban vulgar books in public were secretly playing violent video games and sneaking into theaters to watch R-rated movies. The hypocrisy was top-notch.
@@-_-_-_-_-wut2719 Thank you. Much appreciated.
I hope she doesn't have internet at her house
I noticed that we never got to hear from her kids and what they truly thought of her censorious crusade.
"All kinds of people are degraded in this book", let teenagers discover that themselves. Let them say "Oh, this is not how one should act, this is derogatory". If you spoon-feed children with your own, sometimes flawed, values - how are they going to develop free thought and actual opinions?
Yep, those who do not know thier history (or anything else) are doomed to repeat it.
It's frustrating how basic this seems but also encouraging that teenagers are aware of their power as well as the impact it would have on future students if their access to diverse literature was taken away.
It's great that they're fighting for their right to access books. Great kids.
Yes I agree...I wish books by the KKK leaders was available in my school library. It would have been fun.
I feel like this is a agree to disagree situation. I feel like these books with graphic sexual themes should be banned from school libraries, but kept in public libraries.
@@lanadelreyhey Then they will get it on you tube or other social media, more explicit than anything in a book, even if the book is in the public library. Also, this would set a precedent, if you can ban this people will use it as an anchor to ban whatever the hell offends them even if it is Barney the Dinosaur.
Any book someone tries to ban, is a book I want to read.
@@james9836 knowledge is power.
You are (I assume) an adult. Good for you.
The subject about books concerns children, with undeveloped understanding of risks, maturity and life experiences.
@@analogdistortion and? You don't think I read as a child?
@@fabiennemitchell2371 that's why parental guidance exist.
Yeah, let's not let teens read books that reflects their actual language and experience. Let's hide all the scary things from them. Then these same idiots whine that their kids get changed at college awaty from their stifling, toxic influnce.
OK, groomer
@@vada7259 nah because that's not grooming lmao. It's books that hold this information, and its helpful because the can read it for themselves instead of asking their parents awkward questions that their parents might not even answer. Besides, sheltering teens from stuff either makes them sneaky and not trust their parents enough to tell them things, or once they move out they go absolutely insane over a taste of freedom and become really destructive.
I'm so confused. The older generations always complained about how children and teens don't read anymore but when we do pick up a book, they want to police the content we read. Go figure smh :/
This isn't about vulgar books, she's just having her period and she's all out of tampons.
American women are different kinds of beasts.
"I'm not about censorship but here's why these books should be censored. See my beliefs outweigh every child psychologist and parent out there because I'm literally more moral and understanding."
Yep. Why does this one woman get to be the authority on what kids get to read? Does she police how they all interact as well? Art imitates life. Those books imitate how teens can treat each other, how adults treat teens.
Sorry, this is about porn and filthy smutt being shown to children. Do not attempt to disguise it.
Books don't need to be banned, if you don't like the book, don't read it. 😡Don't take away the choices of others.
What about violent or explicit films? Are they not age restricted? Do you think toddlers should be allowed access to hard core media?
This is not about banning the books entirely. It's about removing them from school libraries.
I was fully expecting this to be a "moral crusade" to ban magic or LGBT, or whatever else the christian right dislike, but it does sound like it's genuinely explicit content that is not only accessible to kids, but targetted at them and held in school libraries.
@@Spinq , she’s not banning violence, just sex. Which is completely ridiculous when it comes to teenagers. They should be able to read about sexual experiences, not just clinical sex Ed.
@@Spinq nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition…. _to be so stupid_
but to know whether you like something you have to experience it in this case the book, so your comment is frankly ridiculous
@@stronkserbia444 Summaries and reviews are there for that. Amazing, right?
As soon as I got my adult library card at the tender age of 13, I started checking out romance novels, which is hardly a healthy avenue for learning about the functional and emotional sides of human sexuality. Unfortunately it was all I had, growing up in the conservative Midwest. The excerpts that woman read seemed very relatable to my recollections of conversations I had with girlfriends in my teens. I doubt kids are much different today, but their access to information and misinformation is vast in comparison. Her book banning crusade feels as futile as closing the barn door after the animals escaped and the barn burnt down.
Your last statement made me laugh on how true it it. Also this is relatable. I've read twilight and new moon in middle school and only now (10+ years after) do I realize how unhealthy those relationships are. Around the same time, I also recall buying a vampire book at Walmart one summer(the public library not someplace we went to outside of school) that had a cool cover. Unfortunately it was an adult book and covered some mature topics such as sexual trauma and recovery from said trauma. I was so surprised and confused not really knowing what sex was at the time but felt uncomfortable enough that I threw the book away. Yeah close the door after the animals left sure is true.
Are there really any so called healthy avenues of "functional and emotional sides of human sexuality"? In our dysfunctional society, anything and everything related to sexual fantasy is deemed unhealthy. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you...
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yea books... when you have all porn in the world just one click away available everywhere for free.... good luck
She’s busy out banning books whilst her teenager is watching CornHub. Kids are gonna come across these things and it’s always been normalised even when I was teen in the 2000s before smart phones came about.
I think this woman needs to get a real job.
Cornhub?
At least she's trying
@@GoFlyFeetOnGround trying what? To let her society die in moral beauty?
@@hansolowe19 Lmao
@@GoFlyFeetOnGround trying to do what?
Banning books has never been a good idea for any society
No books in any US state are banned. Learn what the word banned means
@@naconaco1 banned means restricting it under the guise (ironically) through a government lobby (in this case governor) to remove it from public consumption, also for your information, it is what the word banned means and there are books that were banned in the US, funny that George Orwell books called Animal Farm was in that list once
Censorship is bad for people's wellbeing and growth
Removing explicit content from school libraries is not censorship.
Yep. Mainstream media push it for their own agenda
@@Spinq fk u. Poor bot
@@Spinq who decides what to remove? It's totally censorship
@@Spinq , it’s the definition of censorship.
"I'm not an advocate for censoring anything... BUT..."
Yeah, don't let the teenagers read this material in schools under the supervision of a teacher who can teach them about nuance or differing worldviews, or something. No, let them find that material in private on their phones, laptops, or computers. Smart!
Your sarcastic suggestion is also not smart.
@@fabiennemitchell2371Wow, what a brilliant counterargument!
@@fabiennemitchell2371 What level of information control would you advocate for, then? Even if there's no home internet access, someone can easily just go to the library to google whatever they want.
you know the BBC almost certainly chopped up what she said, why do you trust these people?
Why is banning books is the first response when they find vulgar language or unhealthy relationships? Why not try to have warnings added to the books instead ( either from the author or the librarian) for both vulgar language and others things such as abuse, rape, gun violence ect. Especially the unhealthy relationships so that a teenager or even adult could recognize something they should try to avoid in real life and or keep an eye out. Also banning a book for vulgar language from highschool is so ridiculous since it would take away a sense of realism or relatability from the books targeted to teenagers.
Your suggestion is reasonable for adult minds - buffered by age, experience of life and a better understanding of consequences.
Kids shouldn't be exposed to deeply violent unethical stuff like that. Have you ever read any of these books? I have seen examples of the kind of books they teach and/or keep at some schools and they are things that stick on the mind.
@@analogdistortion I would think the most traumatizing thing are the “don’t shoot me” drills.
@@analogdistortion These are teenagers so most of them already have
@@tommyl7203 That's just not how it should be and for a good percentage isn't true. Your argument here is the same as well if one person was victimised, why not victimise them all? F it?
This form of censorship, unchecked, leads ineluctably to the the ultimate form of censorship, where you not only do away with the book you disagree with, but you do away with the *writer* of the book you disagree with.
@UCC_mUJdDQyEcMmlFwANPdWQ Absolutely. As Blake had it: *Without contraries is no progression. Attraction and repulsion, reason and energy, love and hate, are necessary to human existence.* His way of saying that each of us *define* ourselves by what we are not.
RUclips censors people all the time.
@@benbow7 Yes. This is well known. Your point is?
Nazi Germany pre WW2 springs to mind!
@@titteryenot4524 liberals do it all the time is the point
Hey, here's a question. Would you rather have your child learn about rape or racism from book or from real life? Just asking. Because all the things she wants to ban in books are stil out there in real life.
There’s a time and place for children to learn about stuff and a way of teaching them
@@KayceeLeeigh People who advocate for information control typically want to enforce their twisted worldviews onto others and ensure they can't ever learn about why they're wrong. For instance, religious extremists certainly won't let their kids read Dawkins. You can also see this with programs like abstinence-only sex ed, meant to force puritan values onto others. In the very long term, internet access is a death knell for these beliefs as it's impossible to completely control access to information.
"What you teach is so implausible you cannot trust the world to not convince them otherwise." - Violator by Machinae Supremacy
You really got a point to prove here
@@hmmmmm2634 , are you saying you agree with me or do you seriously think that "there is a time and a place to learn" somehow disproves my point "read in a book at home" being a better learning place than gropping strangers or random internet chats?
@@hmmmmm2634 they're teens better late than never.
This is a woman who is totally out of touch with reality and what teens AND children are going through and are facing all over the world. These books help them to navigate these tough situations and/or know these types of scenarios are out there, and/or to understand what other people are going through. She is doing harm, not good, by banning these books. Stay in your lane, Karen.
You should stay in your lane and not tell people how to raise thier kids.
@@dandrs3049 I detected you on the radar screen while trying to find out who asked!!?
@@dandrs3049 It sounded like she was trying to influence how more than just her children were raised.
@@homerogarzajr1787 wow haven't heard that one before.... you come up with it yourself?
@@aterfelis4708 I don't think so. Parents who want to raise thier childeren with those books still have every right to do so by going to the public library or buying them (like she said)
Remember when this happened in the 80's? How'd that work out? I'm curious to know what this woman's qualifications to decide what all of our children and young adults read. If you don't want your kid to read it.. then you do your job as a parent and explain why to them. Because you aren't doing a good job of explaining it to anyone else other than "it makes me uncomfortable."
I think you got a point on this
BBFC seems to still be going strong.
She may not be the best qualified to make the decisions herself, but shouldn't somebody? Why are books exempt from age restrictions like films and computer games are?
@@Spinq , because a book is not the same as a film. There are things I can read in books that I couldn’t stand watching on a screen. Words or images, it’s a huge difference.
Wait what happened in the 80s?
And the Nazis did it in the 30s and 40s, and the Spanish burned Maya Codecies in the mid and late 1500s... We all know how that crap turned out too... Idiot woman.
Often when I see these people "acting offended" about what their kids see and hear. I wonder have they forgotten what it was like when they were a teenager. All teenagers swear, experiment and tease. Remember?
"experiments" is where we should draw some guidelines
That's not true, not every teenager is like that. When I was teenager, I just wanted to be alone. I never "experimented" etc.
Not everyone was social alcoholic during puberty. I am offended by your stupidity honestly.
after assesing her sexual market value she may have forgotten very how it is getting lucky feel
Then why did the BBC feel the need to sensor what she was reading from the book?
@@mateuszmazurek7991 so is your mother open in market? where are manners when you need them, didn't you wanna learn that?
16-19 year old teenagers are legally adults in Canada. These aren't prepubescent children. They are already done with puberty and are capable of driving vehicles and working jobs. They even pay tax
Apart from the fact that at 16, you definitely aren’t ‘done’ with puberty, I agree with you.
Is that's why Canadians are now getting replaced by immigrants?
This is ridiculous
Banning books that contain salacious, violent, disturbing, etc. Imagery in the era of Internet and social media is completely pointless.
It's illegal to show porn to kids, but you think it's OK to describe it?
If your argument is that it's pointless banning something because there's another way to get it, why ban drugs? In fact why have any laws? I mean, you can't stop all criminality so why not condone it instead? Allow meth dealers on campus. I mean, they'll only get it if they want to anyway...
No it's not. Not everyone uses Internet or youtube.
@@therighteousrighthand
No some use Disney !
@@daledevernon56 Yes
@@therighteousrighthand If you have any kids, which I actually doubt. You must be the most naive parent in the world to think that your kids by the time they go to college, haven't seen, heard and experienced far worst things than what they're reading the books that you tried to ban.
When I was 9-10 years old, I already had an access to erotic books together with religious literature and encyclopedias. It doesn't matter! Children are much smarter than we think.
Around that age, I read a lot of Piers Anthony novels. I enjoyed them at the time, but now I find them rather juvenile. We get it! You like breasts! Guess what, so do I - but I have *other interests, too.*
"vulgar" is such a sickly loose description, it would be abused by everyone that held power.
this lady seems like the type of broad that talks Christ but her family is secretly dysfunctional and broken. i can't imagine that being the kid with the Karen mom that banned every exciting and grown-up book in the library is going to win any points at school either.
nightmare woman, i feel sorry for the kids.
Note that we never got to hear from this woman's children in the video. Personally I love hearing from children of lunatics who grow up and disavow their parents entirely.
Best ad campaign for these books! The students are doing a wonderful job standing up for what they believe.
“They don't gotta burn tha books they just remove 'em” - Rage Against the Machine, Bulls on Parade
I’m so glad that one mother is on a mission to ban things for other people, no matter who they are, based on her own personal tastes
What a hero 🤪
this just shows the kind of degenerate you are
I support children recieving information about the negative impact of vaccines and anti vax movement and other theories that are constantly termed as "misinformation" and banned from the social media and schools. Or is this "freedom of speech and expression" only for dumb leftist liberal ideas and sex books?
RUclips censors people all the time.
@@benbow7
Nice try, but it’s not the same thing.
RUclips is a private company with the power to set rules for the type of content users can post on THEIR platform.
Would RUclips have the power to get certain books banned based on those rules, like this woman is trying to do? Nope
@@benbow7 For one, that's whataboutism. For another, pretty much any progressive content creator also has problems with RUclips's content policies and algorithms. It's not as though I believe large corporations should hold that much power, either, though the chuds who complain they're not allowed to spread hate speech and calls to violence can fuck off to the chud sites.
Books are written by authors who want to let other people know that they can relate to them. Some authors had Traumatic experiences and they share those experiences through fiction so that other young adults who have experienced those same experiences can relate and not feel alone. That's what writing is about, relating to others. If you can't relate to the book, then don't read it. It's that simple. Don't stop others.
I question who this mother works for. Follow the money and you'll have a better understanding.
Lazy cynicism is lazy. Not everyone is driven by money: news flash.
you're a nobody and your opinion doesn't matter.
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 maybe the real news flash is that some people are too dense, like this woman
School is about preparation for life. Trauma and questions of sexual identity should be better taught instead of simply censoring the books by removing them. It's another case of: 'we're just taking the 'bad'' content. The issue is some Christian crucador deciding what's bad, not a qualified child psychologist. It's a 'bad' lesson in life that lgbtq should wear a mark of shame just for existing, or that children should feel ashamed of think about sex.
Kids get up to way worse when they don't know what they are getting into, and you're naive if you think teens won't then make terrible decisions from a lack of education.
Children don’t belong to child psychologists, qualified or not. Children have parents or legal guardians and it is their role to decide what is and is not right for their children, not the state or a branch of it. The teacher who wanted a child of mine marching around the school for gay rights would get a very swift response and would be left in little doubt as to my opinion.
@@walsingham-xxiii I hope you don’t breed.
@@walsingham-xxiii ok I get you ...u have controll over your child ...nobody can ever separate you... youre a family...that's just true.
My child has a life-threatening illness, and has contact with child psychology....but in my experience they aren't really focused on gender, sexuality etc...they are just trying to help children negotiate the difficulties of living with complex illness...
Some people wish to push sexuality to the forefront...but this is a disservice to mental health professionals...not so interesting to them?
All this said...they still piss me off with their in a perfect world u could try this.. scenario...etc...
Err world not perfect...struggling to do all you advise...children fine ...parents mental health...going down drain....but..attended clinic
Is religion stepping in? Well I think we all decided that... priests probly not helping...
@@walsingham-xxiii But by that logic, if one parent decides that something is not appropriate for their child (books in this case), then they are allowed to make a decision for all other parents. Is that fair? Doesn't that take away other parents' right to decide what's appropriate for their own children?
I think this is the reason we have bodies specifically put in place to determine what subject matter is appropriate.
@@walsingham-xxiii , you make those bad decisions for your poor children, not for the other children in school.
"Appropriate for children" is a lable that has changed so much over the last 100 years, it's a wonder anyone is still trying to define it. What makes one book appropriate and another inappropriate? It's totally arbitrary.
So you would see no difference between “Jack & Jill” and “Jack & Jill’s Sex Dungeon”?
@@walsingham-xxiii of course there is a difference. To use these as an example of how to define "appropriate for children" is an exaggerated simplification of the problem. It is obvious that any book explicitly sexual for the sake of sexual entertainment is not fit for children. The problem with "inappropriate" material is that many otherwise legitimate modern and classic novels contain scenes with various levels of sexual implication. Ever been to pantomime? Probably not your scene, but that is an example of a media that deals with child-friendly material, whilst inferring sexual behaviour.
@@Jojo.R.Chipelago "any book explicitly sexual for the sake of sexual entertainment is not fit for children"
Did you listen to the extracts that were read out?
And then for you to initially claim that categorising any content as unsuitable is wrong, and immediately then categorise something as unsuitable shows you are not discussing an objective stance, but a subjective "where do we draw the line" one.
@@Spinq I think it is up to the discretion* of the organisation, not a governing body. Yea, let's regulate the libraries! Shut up.
@@Jojo.R.Chipelago , I think you mean ‘discretion’.
Girl, worry about yourself. I’m in my 40s. There were explicit books in the school library even in the 90s.
Shoot I remember reading "Are You There God? It's me Margaret" before my freshman year in H.S. English class in the 70's. I think it mentioned when Margaret had her first period and it didn't faze me as I learned about it in Sex Ed.
Oh by the way I'm a heterosexual male.
Read Beloved and other ‘controversial’ books in middle and high school, from the school library. This is crazy that these are the same people that call liberals ‘snowflakes’!!!
Damn. The way you opened that comment up is quite badass, if not a little sassy.
If any child in 2022 is going to go to the effort of reading a book they are already committed to finding that information.
"freedom of speech as long as it agrees with me"
Karen vibes
The moment they’re out of school they’ll have access to books that are far worse. I think it’s important to have appropriate books, sure. But having ‘vulgar’ books that discuss sex, sexuality, race etc etc are important. They provide a space to learn about such issues (for example, reading a book with coercion in it is a hell of a lot safer than experiencing it). It also would help with emotional intelligence, students will be able to understand situations more coherently - possibly even being able to help friends in need, recognise red flags… I could go on.
And can increase empathy between different groups
Just because you’re a prude, doesn’t mean everyone else has to be! By banning books, you’re violating freedom of expression, which I believe includes being EXPOSED to that expression! We’re so repressed in America it’s ridiculous! Sex and “bad” words aren’t going to destroy teenagers! Go listen to George Carlin, he wasn’t a comic, he was a philosopher!
I can smell the fear coming out of this woman. Love more, fear less.
At a few points, it felt like she was trying very hard not to say slurs against minority groups.
That's not fear. It's her period and she can't get any tampons.
I wonder how concerned she is about mass shootings in school in the US rather than trying to censor teen literature.
Or suicides. I'm sure Facebook fueld more suicides than people shot.
These types usually say that mass shootings are caused by removing prayer from schools or some religious nonsense like that. (Note, however, that the US, a very religious country, is basically the only one that has a problem with regular school shootings.) That's not even accurate, either - students are free to pray all they want, but teachers, as government employees, cannot lead or mandate it.
most important thing in the world atm - for this lady to feel herself important.
These types of people are ridiculous and so American
I am so thankful that my mother had a wall of books and I was allowed to read any and all of it. There were so many times that I felt alone in some feeling or experience but then a character in a book would make me realize I wasn't. I was a chubby, half-Mexican, bisexual girl growing up in rural PA in the 80s. I can't imagine how I would feel about myself if I hadn't been able to lean on the books around me.
I fully support content that covers LGBT issues. Very much in support of content that some on the Christian right may think blasphemous (Fantasy novels etc).
However, explicit sex and violence in school libraries? Is that necessary? Is it helpful? Or does it normalise this behaviour in young people?
Reading of books help us in many ways
@@Spinq so, you want to coddle adults too? Why not?
I lived with a roommate who started having sex at 5 because she didn't know not to. Kids need to know about the world, all of it. Otherwise, they will be victims of it.
@@Spinq Sex is going to happen regardless. As for violence, I think exposure through books is the least likely to normalize. Kids see it online, in the news, on TV, in movies, in games, in music videos and in their own daily travels. I'm much more worried about the impact of violence in passive experiences than I am in books that, more often than not, offer it in a meaningful way.
No your roommate had sex at 5 because somebody was abusing her. Not that she didn't know she should not have sex!
My Kids Might Get Gunned Down In School But As Long As Theres No Naughty Books They Could Read Thats All That Matters .
Oh for fucks sake. Any book that people want removed just makes me want to read and share them with my teenagers.
You want to share hard core porn and violence with kids? Makes me question your suitability...
If she doesn't want her teens reading these books then she should control that in her household. Why should a school full of kids have to live under her rule ? ??
That’s a good point - If she wants to helicopter her own children shouldn’t be allowed to helicopter the school library of a high school.
Best ad campaign these books could ever hope to get. I salute the kids and the work they're doing on the ground
Well done to those teenagers sticking up for themselves.
Yeah well done to the newly groomed 👍
I find it notable that in pretty much every video of this kind, the teenagers make far better arguments for the books than the adults do against them.
I also find it notable that we didn't hear a thing from this woman's teens or what they think.
@Brian Smith Spare us the melodrama and go back to your trailer.
@@briansmith8490 You're just like that mother: Another stupid person who thinks they have the answer, but is only part of the problem.
@@LuznoLindo
Time lapse ? 😂
I have learned so many life lessons from books. I don't have to make those mistakes because I've read about them. Censoring them is stupid. I'm gay and i love reading gay books, and BLM books too as well as many other related topics. If someone is reading that kind of book, they are already smart cuz they're literally reading. Shut up and get a life.
REPRESENTATION IS IN BOOKS!
i did read Stephen King in 5th grade, and don't recommend that. Hahahaha
She never said she was trying to ban gay or blm books! Banning Graphic violence and sexually explicit books, where minors are present, in the Elementary Schools!
wtf is a 'black lives matter book'? not everyone who supports racial equality agrees with the warped Marxist and frankly racist ideology of BLM.
I remember having a Stephen King book taken off me in the school library as a teenager, Different Seasons. All it made me do was go home, find it online and read it anyways. Surprisingly it didn't end up traumatising me for life, probably just made me do a bit better in my literature class.
"They exist primarily to entertain."
Translation: I'm too stupid to get the point of these stories, and I'll be damned if my kids wind up more intelligent than me!
I find it notable that we never got to hear from this woman's children about what they think of their mother's crusade to restrict information from them.
If people keep this up than all public libraries will closed down.
Its so stupid - books basically rescued my life back when I was a child. For me books escaping the world for a brief moment or seeing it through a different light and allow you to explore difficult challenges, your greatest fears and secrets in a save environment. Its also never to graphical since everything plays in your own headspace.
Helicopter parents who "protect" their own and other children from reading about things they themselves would never understand are doing far more damage than they could ever imagine - because they lack imagination.
A pattern which we see repeatedly: Moral crusaders burned comics around the 50's to protect the corruption of children....
Just forgot: what these parents are really trying to do is keep control over their children. Shutting out outside influence, so that their children won't form an opinion on their on the parents disagree with. Like for instance sexuality or racism.
The news is worse. I hope her kids like it in a bubble.
The real challenge is getting kids to read, I say let this lady continue, nothing will motivate them more by telling them they can't.
Although seriously before they blamed computer games, they blamed books, this is going backwards into a dark past.
I have a high opinion of today's youth given how their reaction to nonsense like this is to start Banned Book Clubs.
@@embrikchloraker8186 yep, pity it's the baby boomers that control the vote and the media and politicians are controlled be even older people that don't like seeing the people have freedom, power or equality.
I still hope people see the light and listen to the young people that will inherit the mess of the previous generations.
Nice C&C avatar, by the way - fantastic series and a good argument for games as art.
@@embrikchloraker8186 yeah it was a classic game.
I wonder if shakespear would be acceptable, they often are very violent and degrading despite poetic wording.
Romeo and Juliet involves underage kids defying their parents, committing suicide etc.
Grow up 🤡☝️
"I'm not into censorship when I want to express race hate but... books"
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Once we allow censorship in books, freedom of thought vanishes.
It's not about buying stuff, she's banning these books from public school libraries
Ok then do you you agree that we publish Mein Kampf?
If it's a private school it might be different, but why do parents send their school with government funding and expect their children to turn out exactly the way they want them to: We can't offer your tuition but trust me mommy knows what's best for you, just don't listen to what educated people tell you???
@@moaz441 we literally had a copy of it in my school library.
@@maryanchabursky9148 Yeah go to any public library in most of the European countries and I challenge you to find the book. Freedom of speech is a joke we use it when it’s comfortable for us but when it’s against us we throw it from the window.
Children need to be allowed to be children for as long as possible. They have far too much exposure to far too much.
You don't just allow children do things there own way a lot of caution should be apply
@@jeffersondavis7166 Indeed
@@hmmmmm2634 yes
So who gets to set that standard? And how do we prevent it from being abused? What if someone you disagree with gets to determine what information people can and can't be exposed to?
This is exactly why they need to learn about it. This books are precisely useful because of this argument.
Speaking for myself, I understood the difference between fiction and real life before leaving Kindergarten. These books discuss bullying and early sexual experiences. Who does she think they are aimed at if not teenagers? She clearly has no respect for teenagers as individuals with minds of their own.
Exactly
These kids are doing worse than books. So foolish of her to hide life from young people. God forbid they read a book about how life really is
Book banning. An exercise in futility that has been around as long as books have. When will people learn.
I love history and was reading intimate accounts of the Holocaust when I was a child. Nothing is too "vulgar" too read, even for minors.
Holocaust survivors are very, very clear that they want history accurately reported. Only if you learn from the past can you avoid repeating it.
That’s true and a good point. Kids probably knew a lot about the Holocaust but not about sex in different eras.
Beloved is a great book I read it in like 10th grade. Banning it is just ridiculous it is a great novel for young people.
With everything bleeped out, I don't have a bleeping idea what's being censored.
How many teens are molested or raped and don't come forward because they do not know that it is not their fault? More than this woman realizes. Children need to know about the dark side of the world or they will never be able to deal with a bully, a molester or a rapist.
At least she's trying politely with discussions and democratic process, 1 against all, brave
If we lived in a truly democratic society lunatic conservatives wouldn't be able to have the authority and power they do.
@@embrikchloraker8186 so you don't want other opinions to live, how democratic
@@GoFlyFeetOnGround Strawman. There's always going to be people believing in absurd conspiracy theories for the sake of contrarianism. I simply don't believe they should be able to repeatedly seize power in spite of their views being incredibly unpopular. Solid majorities support abortion rights, LGBTQ rights and universal healthcare yet all of these things are constantly under attack.
And round and round we go! Will we ever learn from our past! I guess if you live long enough you’ll see everything come full circle!
These are the type of people whoes parents wonder why there kids turned out a mess.
You know the host of a children’s television show, Levar Burton said before the book review segment “You don’t have to take my word for it” Great, inspirational, powerful. You have to read it for your self, then it’s up to you to decide if you like it. If you do, you can read books from the same author or similar books covering similar themes
It’s in a book! Do do do do do! 🌈
This will only force kids to learn about all the shit things in life after they have left school. I bet most adults have experienced this in the past but now want to recreate the trauma again.
Their working theory is, if you censor information from children, they won't ever stray from the Godly path.
Given the utter failure of abstinence-only sex ed, this is complete nonsense.
I can understand not allowing books in the SCHOOL library that have explicit sexual content. That being said, teens today have less sex and far fewer pregnancies than teens of the past. The trend is downward. Having access to proper education, open discussions, and content that is relevant to their feelings has not led to more sexual activity among teenagers. It has led to less.
It's pretty funny to think that these pearl-clutching parents were having far more freaky time at that age than the teens of today whom they are trying to shelter.
This woman is living in the Black and White version of Pleasantville. I don't know whether to scream into a pillow or feel sorry for her. STOP BANNING BOOKS
I think if this woman found Wattpad she’d evaporate
“THEY… THEY WRITE IT, TOO? oh god. OH GOD.”
Bruh exactly she wouldn't last a day in wattpad
As a young Catholic school child, I never bothered with the school library. I headed straight to the city library. I started with Santa Claus & sex and never looked back. 😂 These parents can knock themselves out & make school libraries irrelevant. Kids will head to greater sources, rendering these parents irrelevant. Has this woman not heard of the internet? 🙄 Better to teach our young how to navigate their world, than try to limit the world they navigate. This mother, quite frankly, seems to have some personal control issues.
Bet the first time you heard the name Robert Langdon was an eye opener!
Witchblade Magdalena Daredevil brought me here.
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banning book about the holocaust because they're too vulgar??? excuse me??? Not everything has to be comfortable and neat. we must learn and never forget.
Whenever I watch a video about banned books, I wonder if the person/people trying to ban them have actually read them. Chances are, 99% of them are nowhere near as bad as they make them out to be
Banned books are the most popular books for young people to read. Let other people make their own decisions rather than adding gas to a fire. Vulgar is an opinion word.
This woman needs to be banned
I get that we should filter the content that makes it to our kids, so they aren't bombarded by smut and misinformation., but the schools are doing that. Aren't they? They're not letting anything in. The educational value of these books outweigh their vulgarity. Am I wrong? We are also talking about teenagers here, not small children. I'm confident every teenager in the world (unless they have been locked in a closet) has heard, seen and said much worse than anything you can find in these books. I guarantee it, actually, and it's probably on a daily basis. If they haven't, then at least they heard it first from an approved source. You're not protecting them from anything. If anything, you're making it worse by pretending it doesn't exist or making it taboo, which makes the obscenities cooler to use and harder to discuss with mentors.
How can you ever truly know the world you live in, if you hide yourself and your children from it. Seems like a disservice to them as well as yourself.
I can understand why these books shouldn't be in elementary/middle school libraries, but high school !?!? Every high school kid knows there is 10x worse things going on every day than a couple of kids reading mature books. There is much more urgent and needed changes that need to be done in our schools than playing along to vigilante book hunters. And let's be honest here, these books have probably only been picked up a couple of times if at all by students. Last time I checked, libraries and reading books aren't the most popular thing to do in town anymore......
don’t mine me just adding all these books to my tbr✌🏼
I can guarantee this work will only make young people more interested in reading these texts. It's idiotic to ban
I feel encouraged to seek and read these banned books - infamy makes great marketing.
is almost like kids know all the content that’s in these books
Someone needs to introduce her to Will Smith.
Good intentions but terrible idea. Banning books is only feasible through law and that would mean a decree saying certain content cannot be made. It sets a very dangerous basis for subsequent laws that have the possibility of threatening free expression. Furthermore, laws don't prevent people from breaking them; there will always be criminals and a black market for contraband and sometimes telling someone not to do something makes it all the more appealing, by the prospect of the thrill, to do exactly what is prohibited. Banning books is a foolish idea. By the way, it is reminiscent of terrible regimes that would burn books because of the power literature beholds and because of that, entire generations would lose information. Do not allow a precedent for defiling our freedoms👎
The kids should be the focus of the story and not the misguided mother. Censorship is never good. Often books are the only sex education accessible to some teenagers receive, especially when the live in a conservative country with conservative parents.
I am so happy to see the comments reflect and see what this is. It is censorship and they won't stop at schools! Enjoy the books you want and protect them from censorship by keeping them in your own personal libraries and sharing them with others! This is our fight!
The well-intentioned book banners are the most dangerous. Because they are not well-intentioned but merely religiously inspired. They know little, but believe a lot. About themselves, mostly. They know that as long as they identify with their intentions rather than with their actions and the consequences their actions have, they will remain forever innocent in their own minds. The belief in one’s own innocence is of vital importance to those who believe in an afterlife preceded by a day of reckoning. It is an innocence fashioned entirely out of Ignorance encased in arrogance.
The BBFC ( British Board of Film Classification) symbols are a familiar reference most of us use when considering the suitability of a movie for our children . Why not for books?????
There's certainly a difference in mediums between text and imagery. Though from a pragmatic standpoint, I also oppose any such classifications on books, given how it can and will be abused in bad faith to keep information from people.
No one should be allowed to ban books. Ever.
Censorship is bad no matter what way you look at. The book she read was most likely read out of context
In what context is that content suitable for kids? In what context is it acceptable in a school library?
Books should not be banned (unless the content is illegal, separate issue) but removing them from school libraries is a different issue entirely.
They'll just find another way. No point in banning. Might even do more harm down the line.
I genuinely do wonder what these people hope to accomplish in a world where Google exists. They can't hide the existence of LGBTQ people and people of color anymore.
@@embrikchloraker8186 whack-a-mole! And since you're branching out, I wanna add that BDSM is quite normal too yet is also treated as taboo.
@@missreia Oh, absolutely. Consent is incredibly important for BDSM, though, and should be taught in sex ed. Given how puritans seek to corrupt that, though, I doubt it will be. It certainly gives me pleasure to do things they disapprove of, though!
@@embrikchloraker8186 haha yes same here 🤪
In Nazi Germany pre world war 2 books that didn't meet the Party leadership criteria were burnt, these idiots were narrow minded and simpletons, if this woman thinks she has valid principles that's all well and good, in our democracy that's her right, but it is not her right to dictate what is suitable and not. We have choices in life, basically if you like something pursue it, if you don't ignore it!
If only they were this engaged about stopping predatory priests and pastors.
There's a fine line between censorship and age-appropriate.
Liberals have blurred the line into non-existence.
So who gets to determine that? Because conservatives abuse standards to restrict information about things like contraceptives and LGBTQ people from minors.
I guess that’s what it comes down to. Have them in a public library and allow teenagers to access them.
The hypocrisy of those who desire to ban ‘vulgar’ books, whilst they themselves uphold the most ‘vulgar’ book of all, the Bible. I’m no atheist, but when it comes to the Old Testament God, the putative God of Christians, Jews and Muslims, it’s hard to imagine a nastier piece of work within a piece of work, as it were. Richard Dawkins nailed him exquisitely: *The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.* In terms of ‘vulgarity’ there is no book that comes close, in my opinion.
How about instead of banning books you find to be bad, you buy your kids good books and teach them proper values so they can UNDERSTAND that some books are bad? I personaly find "Twilight" books to be dangerous because they praise possessive toxic relationship, but i'd let my kids read it. I plan to raise them in a way where they would be able see how bad those books are and laugh at them, not take them as a life guide.
I'm assuming she doesn't know about the internet. That's the only way this story makes sense.
Life should make you feel uncomfortable. It should make you feel bad in different situations. Just because someone does not like the book they read does not mean others don't find progression in reading that same book. I would rather my children learn from a book than on the streets. In the books they can then find what they need to ask more about. Cencorship is never the answer. I remember when I heard they were trying to put out editions of Mark Twains books with the racial words changed. That turns a blind eye to how that era was. All the things in it that we now see as wrong. I want my children to ask me why the N word is being used in books like that. So I can show them other books and documentaries on why racism is bad and what people went thru to be seen as just human in many peoples eyes. Don't censor libraries. And as for the old dogma that sex ed should happen at home it just doesn't in most homes. Parents don't want to have the "Talk" with their kids. Almost all the kids I knew including myself just had to figure it out as we went because our parents didn't want to have the "Talk" with us. Talk with your kids and let them ask questions about what they want to know.
I'm a mother... That was all i needed to hear Karen.
Hello sleven
Ha!
Just posted a Karen comment...scrolled down and found another Karen remark.
You're right good man.
A rare wild breed of Karen is grazing on this video..
I’m a mother, too, yet I would never behave the way she does. I want my kids to read all the books.
@@naylas3908 but all books are not good for your kids
@@jeffersondavis7166 , kids shouldn’t only read books that are ‘good’ for them. There are lessons to be learned from all different kinds of books.