6:50 Exactly, the voices of Ivan and Xing xing are more YOUR STYLE. But that you like their voices more does not mean that CONGB sings "sloppy" or flat, everything has a purpose, if the teachers and classmates have praised him and chosen to sing those parts it will be for SOMETHING. Anyway, I respect your opinion, I also like the tones of Iván and Xin xing more, but I think in technique CONGB wins✨💕
I'm quite disappointed that congb is not appreciated by you like ivan or xingxing. congb really touched my heart when he started the chorus, and of course the high notes and backing vocals were also perfect. Maybe Ivan surprised us, but Congb's skills and how to handle every detail were so good that he received a positive response from the coach. Hope you can watch the song's separate video to fully enjoy it. and of course congb's team did a great job and I'm proud of that.
This is because of their vocal texture but for me CongB really did a great job I didn't notice him before since BoysPlanet but now CongB really prove himself in Starlight Boys I will support CongB, Ivan, Pentor South East Asia Represent
Crazy take on CongB tbh, he was amazing and the actual recording from fan in the audience that day shows that iquiyi edited his vocal too much that the rawness did not show here in this version. Ivan is great but CongB deserved that main vocalist spot 100%, I mean even Hui points out how good Cong was and literally everyone in the guiders team agreed. Genuinely, I do not understand your passive aggressive attitudes toward him. "Sloppy" - are we listening to the same thing rn cuz where is the sloppy part? Cong's ability to belt, adlibs and harmonized is trained for a long time and recognized by his team mates who voted for him to be the main vocalist, like they voted for him... Ig everyone got their own preference lol.
If you watch the previous part, the practice part, you will know why CONGB is polaris, and CONGB is polaris that is approved and supported by everyone, maybe CONGB's voice is not your style. respect you
As someone who uses a mixed voice (head and chest), I respect CongB as a vocalist. He is belting and his voice is so clear. I think you wanted his voice to have vibrato? Holding a stable note without vibrato is by no means a fault, and is a feat in itself as well since you leave yourself bare. It’s hard to use a pure chest voice like he does and it’s easy to go flat, so others like Xing Xing and Pentor use a mixed voice, sometimes dipping into pure head voice, because it’s easier to control pitch on the high notes. CongB stylistically starts the song in mixed voice, then belts from the chorus onwards, and doesn’t shy away from the high notes for the rest of the song whilst belting. He could’ve slipped in a mix here and there to be safe but he committed, which was very intentional and very few people can pull that off. Trust me, I currently can’t commit to that even if I wanted to. It’s likely why the Guiders reacted that way to CongB because they recognise the vocal prowess required. It’s a singer’s nightmare to crack during a live performance so sticking to belting like that was very brave and he did it so well.
love this team so much ..they supported each other and the chemistry.🥰 IVAN VOICE MAKE ME FALLING IN LOVE ❤ 🫠 VOTE FOR IVAN NOW..he might be eliminate🥺 8:40
the fact that xingxing is focused on the dances only is the whole "expect the unexpected" scene, glad that he finally recognized and appreciated more in this stage, and vote for ivan pls he's so all rounder ❤
Congb’s voice actually projected the most though, that’s why the audiences were so surprised. (It’s hard hear it here but if you listen carefully you will) I recommend you listen to their raw vocal (unedited). Ivan in this stage did surprise me a lotttt. He really deserves more attention 😢 Pento with his angelic voice and Xingxing with that emotional control, god, they both killed the stage! 🤩❤
It's funny when you comment on Congb's singing style. He graduated from the Military University of Culture and Arts. If he wasn't a singer, he would be a music teacher.
Respect your opinion, but critizide a Polaris vocal got the recognized by every starlight boys including the judges is insane 😑 ... The team voted for him to got that position and He also have to fight for that ! Anything has a reason!
may be because CongB started withmore "classic" music so he doesn't sound so "pop" in the way he sang (He graduated from the Military University of Culture and Art)
Kkk cười chết, chủ video nghe bản gốc chưa, bảo hát không hay. Giỏi thì cầm mic phát là hát được, cần gì phải cố gắng gào thét, bảo người ta hát cứ bằng phẳng. Tuổi người ta chắc hơn 20t, ng ta hát với tâm trạng như người kể lại chuyện qua rồi và giờ sống tốt hơn rồi, mấy anh kia hát như day dứt chưa quên được, mỗi người 1 cảm nhận. 10 người là 10 í. Có thể ông này thích giọng khàn khàn, ổng anti giọng cao, ngọt, trong trẻo
I’m not trying to judge you, but if I were to give a fair opinion, CONGB has performed very well. However, I feel like you’re critiquing his singing in a somewhat mocking tone, and your assessment seems quite biased.
Cảm giác ông này phân biệt ĐNA í😞 t rất thích màu giọng của Ivan và Tinh Tinh luôn, có khi thích hơn Công này là theo gu nma Công làm rất tốt, nhất là đoạn cuối. Ông này nói như kiểu k xứng để làm polaris í
Sloppy??? Exucse me??? Have you watched the whole team's practice on the show? Probably not because if you did, you definitely wouldn't say "sloppy" =))) I agree that IVAN and Xing Xing's voices are really match the singing emotions and CongB simply isn't your style, however, his technique is good (that he was praised by the judges and he showed it from the beginning) or how hard he tried is undeniable!!! I won't judge or deny your opinion on how to evaluate the performance, however, CongB tried very hard so please don't use negative words to put him down (even though when you saw this reaction, you felt like you were inclined to underestimate CongB). Imo, the whole team's victory was the perfect harmony of the 4 voices, their relentless efforts so don't use the word like "sloppy" for any member just because their singing is not your style. Thanks
Personal opinion is not meant to offend someone who was clearly recognized by everyone on set that day. The fact that you said who is more suitable to be polarris made me unable to restrain myself.
It appeared to be flat because Iquiyi edited his voice way too much and did him dirty. He sounded way better in the leaked recording from one fan watching that performance live.
I respect your opinion but if Congb's voice is really flat then why didn't the judges (who are professionals and experienced) help him fix it but instead praised him? So you can't say this is true or not. You should say this is your personal opinion
Dont arguing guyss...what he tried to told us is congb is not a ungreat singer...he just not show a bit the emotion of the song....his voice are good,everyone know that he's a talented singer...but in this case...xing xing,ivan and pentor show a lot of emotion exactly how the song should be...i enjoy the song when congb sing but my eyes start twitching and wet when ivan and duang xingxing part...i know they put the emotion on their voice because i always cried when the song or someone that sing some part have the emotion in their voice even it slightly emotion tone...cuz imma cry baby...congb also in my top pick guyss no worry..this f4 vocal are all my top pick from 1st ep..
I'm Vietnamese so I'm lowkey biased towards Congb but I see what you mean. We don't have that many Viet idols in K-Pop besides NJ's Hanni, tripleS' Nien (half-Viet), Tempest's Hanbin, and ARrC's Kien.
Mấy con mẻ buồn cười Congb làm tốt là làm tốt đâu ra cái chuyện lý do lý trấu nhiều thế, thấy ngta làm tốt còn thêm chữ "nhưng" vào để phản đối ngta thế này thế nọ, cố gắng chống chế để được điều j trong khi ngta được thành viên trong đội và ban giám khảo khen ngợi=))
Duan xing xing is my all rounder fav. in terms of performance xing xinv and ivan are very deep and convey the pain well and precisely. but in terms of technique cong B wins.
I have the same asessment as yours. Must admit CongB has the range, good pitch and fuller voice but he often sounded flat to me. Don't get me wrong he is still the best vocalist in the group. But Ivan and DuanXingXing are so underappreciated. Ivan need to have better pitch tho. He as a great potential. I think DuanXingXing should be given more chance as a vocalist. I prefer his intro than CongB's.
Sorry but I need to disagree with your opinion.. I cried at Cong B part. I don't the reason and when you said sloppy like WHATTT?!!!! HOWWW?? FLATTT?? Did we even hear the same recording here dude
congb did help them but i agree and also disagree a bit with ur saying “congb who taught them can sing like this” please don’t act like congb is the reason they can sing. xingxing was already known as a good vocalist, ivan has done a lot of covers and even sang in public before, and pentor is clearly a singer in Thailand. congb did help them with harmonization & techniques to make them sound better as a group and thats it ! he’s not the reason they can sing !
wow ur "opinion" lol 😂, i know you don't feel this note but actually everyone was captivated by vocal's CongB. I know this ur opinion but let see the way u deny him... it's okay dude. Respect ur opinion
I'll respect your opinion. As a CongB stan i did notice the end bits sound a little off. I don't think in any world he is sloppy though. But to each their own I'll move on with my day haha
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DUAN XING XING AND IVAN REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR VOCALS, SO IM GLAD THEY SHOWED IT THROUGH THIS PERFORMANCE
6:50 Exactly, the voices of Ivan and Xing xing are more YOUR STYLE. But that you like their voices more does not mean that CONGB sings "sloppy" or flat, everything has a purpose, if the teachers and classmates have praised him and chosen to sing those parts it will be for SOMETHING. Anyway, I respect your opinion, I also like the tones of Iván and Xin xing more, but I think in technique CONGB wins✨💕
i agree with you
Me too ❤
Just like me 😂, as good as any part Ivan and xingxing he doesn't fit my style.. So just plain, the pentor part is the best for me
I'm quite disappointed that congb is not appreciated by you like ivan or xingxing. congb really touched my heart when he started the chorus, and of course the high notes and backing vocals were also perfect. Maybe Ivan surprised us, but Congb's skills and how to handle every detail were so good that he received a positive response from the coach. Hope you can watch the song's separate video to fully enjoy it. and of course congb's team did a great job and I'm proud of that.
Exactly 🎉🎉🎉
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This is because of their vocal texture but for me CongB really did a great job I didn't notice him before since BoysPlanet but now CongB really prove himself in Starlight Boys
I will support CongB, Ivan, Pentor
South East Asia Represent
Crazy take on CongB tbh, he was amazing and the actual recording from fan in the audience that day shows that iquiyi edited his vocal too much that the rawness did not show here in this version. Ivan is great but CongB deserved that main vocalist spot 100%, I mean even Hui points out how good Cong was and literally everyone in the guiders team agreed. Genuinely, I do not understand your passive aggressive attitudes toward him. "Sloppy" - are we listening to the same thing rn cuz where is the sloppy part? Cong's ability to belt, adlibs and harmonized is trained for a long time and recognized by his team mates who voted for him to be the main vocalist, like they voted for him... Ig everyone got their own preference lol.
Also, Cong's vocal performance from his uni day is all over X. Just simply watch those vids, and u can tell iquiyi did him way too dirty.
I love all of the team members. Eventho Ivan is my pick but i cant deny that Cong B really good on this stage. Lets vote for all of them.
IVAN HE CAN SING, RAP, DANCE AND HIS VISUAL OMG❤❤
Well truly congb did really well, but i think xingxing and ivan voice gives off the vibe of the song better
Agree
If you watch the previous part, the practice part, you will know why CONGB is polaris, and CONGB is polaris that is approved and supported by everyone, maybe CONGB's voice is not your style. respect you
As someone who uses a mixed voice (head and chest), I respect CongB as a vocalist. He is belting and his voice is so clear. I think you wanted his voice to have vibrato? Holding a stable note without vibrato is by no means a fault, and is a feat in itself as well since you leave yourself bare. It’s hard to use a pure chest voice like he does and it’s easy to go flat, so others like Xing Xing and Pentor use a mixed voice, sometimes dipping into pure head voice, because it’s easier to control pitch on the high notes. CongB stylistically starts the song in mixed voice, then belts from the chorus onwards, and doesn’t shy away from the high notes for the rest of the song whilst belting. He could’ve slipped in a mix here and there to be safe but he committed, which was very intentional and very few people can pull that off. Trust me, I currently can’t commit to that even if I wanted to. It’s likely why the Guiders reacted that way to CongB because they recognise the vocal prowess required. It’s a singer’s nightmare to crack during a live performance so sticking to belting like that was very brave and he did it so well.
love this team so much ..they supported each other and the chemistry.🥰 IVAN VOICE MAKE ME FALLING IN LOVE ❤ 🫠
VOTE FOR IVAN NOW..he might be eliminate🥺 8:40
congb did so well and it seems like you try to deny it. Fine, he’s also amazing 🤷♂️
the fact that xingxing is focused on the dances only is the whole "expect the unexpected" scene, glad that he finally recognized and appreciated more in this stage, and vote for ivan pls he's so all rounder ❤
Congb’s voice actually projected the most though, that’s why the audiences were so surprised. (It’s hard hear it here but if you listen carefully you will) I recommend you listen to their raw vocal (unedited). Ivan in this stage did surprise me a lotttt. He really deserves more attention 😢 Pento with his angelic voice and Xingxing with that emotional control, god, they both killed the stage! 🤩❤
please vote for ivan!!!❤❤
It's funny when you comment on Congb's singing style. He graduated from the Military University of Culture and Arts. If he wasn't a singer, he would be a music teacher.
Respect your opinion, but critizide a Polaris vocal got the recognized by every starlight boys including the judges is insane 😑 ... The team voted for him to got that position and He also have to fight for that ! Anything has a reason!
may be because CongB started withmore "classic" music so he doesn't sound so "pop" in the way he sang (He graduated from the Military University of Culture and Art)
Kkk cười chết, chủ video nghe bản gốc chưa, bảo hát không hay. Giỏi thì cầm mic phát là hát được, cần gì phải cố gắng gào thét, bảo người ta hát cứ bằng phẳng. Tuổi người ta chắc hơn 20t, ng ta hát với tâm trạng như người kể lại chuyện qua rồi và giờ sống tốt hơn rồi, mấy anh kia hát như day dứt chưa quên được, mỗi người 1 cảm nhận. 10 người là 10 í. Có thể ông này thích giọng khàn khàn, ổng anti giọng cao, ngọt, trong trẻo
ông này nhận xét Công khó chịu thế nhờ, rõ ràng công hát rất tốt lun í, công thực sự đã cố gắng rất nhiều. Mn ủng hộ vote cho Congb nhaaa
đúng má t coi mà bực nha
Thiệt ý. Nghe khó chịu thật. Trong khi ban giám khảo hay những người khác đều công nhận Công có kỹ thuật vs giọng hát tốt.
I’m not trying to judge you, but if I were to give a fair opinion, CONGB has performed very well. However, I feel like you’re critiquing his singing in a somewhat mocking tone, and your assessment seems quite biased.
Cảm giác ông này phân biệt ĐNA í😞 t rất thích màu giọng của Ivan và Tinh Tinh luôn, có khi thích hơn Công này là theo gu nma Công làm rất tốt, nhất là đoạn cuối. Ông này nói như kiểu k xứng để làm polaris í
@@YuanYuan-gi8gc Ivan ở Malaysia nên phân biệt ĐNA thì chắc ko đâu mà giống kiểu khinh người Việt hơn:))
@@lanlai8104 Ivan gốc Hoa hay s á. Thấy ổng có tên Trung với biết nói tiếng Trung.
@@YuanYuan-gi8gc Kira the world ep1 thấy ổng bảo đến từ Malaysia còn gốc ở đâu thì t cũng ko biết, thấy ông ý nói đc nhiều tiếng
@@lanlai8104Ông này cũng có lần chê màu giọng của hanbin bạn ạ. 😢.
that's your feeling but don't underestimate Congb oh my god, it's because of pronunciation but singing technique is very good
Sloppy??? Exucse me??? Have you watched the whole team's practice on the show? Probably not because if you did, you definitely wouldn't say "sloppy" =))) I agree that IVAN and Xing Xing's voices are really match the singing emotions and CongB simply isn't your style, however, his technique is good (that he was praised by the judges and he showed it from the beginning) or how hard he tried is undeniable!!! I won't judge or deny your opinion on how to evaluate the performance, however, CongB tried very hard so please don't use negative words to put him down (even though when you saw this reaction, you felt like you were inclined to underestimate CongB).
Imo, the whole team's victory was the perfect harmony of the 4 voices, their relentless efforts so don't use the word like "sloppy" for any member just because their singing is not your style. Thanks
Personal opinion is not meant to offend someone who was clearly recognized by everyone on set that day. The fact that you said who is more suitable to be polarris made me unable to restrain myself.
many forget about xing xing, but here for me she is the best performer
why did you make CongB so dirty😢
yeah xing xing and ivan make this great performance perfect
Dont fighting guys i want both 4 to debut..ivan,cingb,pentor and xing2
Yeah,,i love Ivan, XingXing, Pentor singing but CongB also good at adlibs,,so i pick all them as my list of fav
IM GLAD ME AND YOU SEE IT THE SAME WAY WITH CONGB HIS VOCAL RANGE IS GOOD BUT HE'S FLAT AND THAT'S THE TRUTH WHETHER HIS FANS LIKE TO ADMIT IT OR NOT
It appeared to be flat because Iquiyi edited his voice way too much and did him dirty. He sounded way better in the leaked recording from one fan watching that performance live.
@chanhau7240 i watch the recording and I still stand by my statement
I respect your opinion but if Congb's voice is really flat then why didn't the judges (who are professionals and experienced) help him fix it but instead praised him? So you can't say this is true or not. You should say this is your personal opinion
@@hanhnguyentran8092 IT IS MY OPINION AND IDGAF ABOUT THE JUDGES THEY CAN ALL GET BOYCOTTED FOR ALL I CARE
trời mé nghe bản gốc của day6 chưa mà nhiều ng cứ bảo congb ko thể hiện tốt bài hát so với ai đó hơn
Appreciation for xingxing voice ❤
Dont arguing guyss...what he tried to told us is congb is not a ungreat singer...he just not show a bit the emotion of the song....his voice are good,everyone know that he's a talented singer...but in this case...xing xing,ivan and pentor show a lot of emotion exactly how the song should be...i enjoy the song when congb sing but my eyes start twitching and wet when ivan and duang xingxing part...i know they put the emotion on their voice because i always cried when the song or someone that sing some part have the emotion in their voice even it slightly emotion tone...cuz imma cry baby...congb also in my top pick guyss no worry..this f4 vocal are all my top pick from 1st ep..
i have to disagree, whenever congb started to sing tears fell from my eyes.
CONGB THE BEST FOR ME ❤
If you look closely, Yinghao was legit limping. My poor boy danced so so good with a broken leg. Also XINGXING VOCALS❤. Pentor & Ziheng🎀
I'm Vietnamese so I'm lowkey biased towards Congb but I see what you mean. We don't have that many Viet idols in K-Pop besides NJ's Hanni, tripleS' Nien (half-Viet), Tempest's Hanbin, and ARrC's Kien.
Mấy con mẻ buồn cười Congb làm tốt là làm tốt đâu ra cái chuyện lý do lý trấu nhiều thế, thấy ngta làm tốt còn thêm chữ "nhưng" vào để phản đối ngta thế này thế nọ, cố gắng chống chế để được điều j trong khi ngta được thành viên trong đội và ban giám khảo khen ngợi=))
Chưa kể có thể loại dìm Congb xuống rồi tâng bốc người khác lên. Thật ghê tởm. Làm như bản thân thánh thiện lắm vậy, ha ha
Duan xing xing is my all rounder fav. in terms of performance xing xinv and ivan are very deep and convey the pain well and precisely. but in terms of technique cong B wins.
I have the same asessment as yours. Must admit CongB has the range, good pitch and fuller voice but he often sounded flat to me. Don't get me wrong he is still the best vocalist in the group. But Ivan and DuanXingXing are so underappreciated. Ivan need to have better pitch tho. He as a great potential. I think DuanXingXing should be given more chance as a vocalist. I prefer his intro than CongB's.
IM SO PROUD OF SYO SHOWING THAT HE'S AN AMAZING VOCALIST ❤
Sorry but I need to disagree with your opinion.. I cried at Cong B part. I don't the reason and when you said sloppy like WHATTT?!!!! HOWWW?? FLATTT?? Did we even hear the same recording here dude
you like their styles than congb and don't you know that congb who taught them can sing like this,I'm quiet disappointed when you try deny his efforts
congb did help them but i agree and also disagree a bit with ur saying “congb who taught them can sing like this” please don’t act like congb is the reason they can sing. xingxing was already known as a good vocalist, ivan has done a lot of covers and even sang in public before, and pentor is clearly a singer in Thailand. congb did help them with harmonization & techniques to make them sound better as a group and thats it ! he’s not the reason they can sing !
xingxing is so talented he can do everything
Nahh i just can't move on with xingxing yepeoseoo fr😭🤸🏻
the moment u said the word Sloppy ended your "opinion" here. just stfu and never disrespect CongB again
The vocal wasn't raw on the episode. The live version from the fan was so much better
xingxing and sun yinghao are so damn good, but i heard they plan to not debut to avoid the contract terms with the iqiyi platform...
I ALSO FEEL THAT CONGB WAS JUST SINGING JUST TO SING, HE SHOWED NO EMOTIONS LIKE XING XING, IVAN AND EVEN PENTOR
You became CongB's hater after he won against Xing Xing and become polarris?😂
@hanhluuhoang4437 whatever makes you happy, I personally don't care who was Polaris
i’m sorry bruh you did congb so dirty
Ah, I'm a little disappointed that I came to see this.
Same bro
wow ur "opinion" lol 😂, i know you don't feel this note but actually everyone was captivated by vocal's CongB. I know this ur opinion but let see the way u deny him... it's okay dude. Respect ur opinion
Yeah! Xing Xing all rounder..
Your endless "opinions" about congb pmo
Is it fair that you always discredit congb??? If it's okay, then continue reaction. Otherwise, it's okay👌🏻
Poor Yinghao he is withdrawn from show😢
Chưa chắc hát hay hơn người ta mà nói không ổn. Là bạn không ổn đúng không?😅
I love Xing Xing voice 💖
can you please post project7 vocal team performances on youtube too?🧐
I can't believe I wasted my time to be here. Don't you know that every parts of a song have its own purpose 🙄
I'll respect your opinion. As a CongB stan i did notice the end bits sound a little off. I don't think in any world he is sloppy though. But to each their own I'll move on with my day haha
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ivannnnn❤❤
What in the world war 3 of South East Asia is happening here😂😂 jk guys I'm also from SEA
ahhhh, I'm a little disappointed that I came to see this.
Personal preference I think. I liked I will be your man more
please vote hanjeongwoo 😢
Your reaction makes me so annoyed!!!
ivannnnnnnnnnnn
It's pointless to sit and watch this🤡
dirty content :)
IVAN 💗💗💗🇲🇾