Just read this harsh .... How old is this article do you know ? Because reading where to stay and eat it doesn't mention the Airbnb or cafe right next to it unless I'm not seeing it in my old age 😂 x
This describes the Masca Ravine, Barranco de Masca. Jay wandered down the Barranco Juan Lopez, and not on one of the the hiker's paths which are on the left (south) side of the ravine but on the north side according to Chris T which is a far more dangerous route. Perhaps that's why no-one saw him. The Masca Ravine is where that earth slide happened and it's got a new pier for boat trips.
@@Mummyk01 he's really trying hard to get some kind of lead to what happened to his son.Debbie and Zak must be broken.if someone knows anything about Jay Slater stop covering there's a decent family want closher for their son and brother.
I agree the story is bullshit.That lad was murdered and they all know it. What gets me is why none of them have been arrested. Get them all in and one of them will crack. We need justice for Jay 💙
I don't get how nobody has been questioned to the max when it's so obvious they're all lying through their back teeth and are all involved.. Thank you Harsh on this wet Monday xx
I swear you’re the only person I click on Harsh now concerning Jay . People are not using common sense if it doesn’t make sense then it’s usually a load of bollox . Looking grand yourself hope you’re feeling better today 😃
Three versions of the same event - Brad : Jay was fine & happy - Lucy : (a few seconds later) he was in trouble, Ayub : he was in a ditch & injured- all three versions can’t be true - so either one is the correct version or none of them are true and never happened.
How did ayub know jay was in a ditch and injured Lucy didn’t know him and why would ayub say there isn’t any buses but the lady said 10 o’clock ayubs been there before you can clear see a bus stop outside your telling me that while he’s been there he’s never seen one bus stop outside airb&b now that’s bollocks
@@Sally66Titanic jay was not in the Masca ravine no searchers went down the ravine where he was. The ravine where he was is nothing like the Masca ravine it has no proper paths and there is no sign posts
@@dianemcghie3422 no he walked the actual path the went to los cristianos yes it was the wrong path but it needed checking incase you did end up on the correct path.
Hi from Australia.. I follow you regularly as I like your sensible approach to the Jay Slater case. You break everything down and take it back to basics... keep going... we're all hoping for a break through of some sort... By the way youre looking amazing yourself..👌
Nice work H, now everyone and everything is really questionable. The strength of Warren, and his determination after this terrible tragedy is admirable ❤
You are describing the Masca Gorge, i think Jay was found in the less used Playa De Juan Lopez ravine as that is North of the cafe on the hill and his last phone ping, the direction he was heading. It's possible that he wasn't on the tourist trail and approached the ravine from high up, deciding to try go down one of the cliff trails. My friends dad was reported as falling 300ft, yet when we visited the spot he fell it was basically a long tumble down a very steep rocky mountain hill. That type of reporting happens a lot when people fall on cliff trails. It doesn't necessarily mean he fell through the air or over a ledge, so it's not necessarily accurate to say he walked off a cliff as if he straight walked over a ledge.
Your right Harsh,everyone is being taken off of the real events due to all the stories going around. What needs to happen is to go back to the begining and start again. All the pics n videos of jay are a majority of him in the club. The story breaker would be and what we need is a pic or vid of him leaving the club on the eventful night and that would be a game changer.....
I know it’s a lot of work, but we need to go back in time and almost start over cuz so much stuff and bs are blinded people. Like the video Dan told us about and chis / luggy among others
So jay flew out with brad.met lucy and brandon,in tenerife.hooked up with ayub at a bar on first night being there ,because Lucy knew ayub.went to rave,lost his keys ,all friends went home early,he then caught a lift from ayub ,who was staying at a, a. b.n.b,jay then left at 7.30 to walk back to his apartment ,accidentally fell of a cliff on the way.meanwhile friends panic due to various phone calls, set up a go fund me page ,phone the authorities, for a search. (even when you look at this it reads like a story book for pre.school.)
@judithtrigg1694 you're missing loads of lies and weird things there..most importantly Tom hilton was around when people said he wasn't allowed to leave the UK, ayub booked the air bnb just before he went there with a fake name, and left the only review thanking "the cleaner", his Co pilot Rocky couldn't stay away through it all and Lucy wouldn't show her face on camera etc etc Ps where's Brandon (aka Johnny vegas) and why hasn't he said a word??? Nothing makes sense..ie Brad "he does that..well he DID that anyway" 😡
@@Keithoconnellsongwriter I was breaking down what we actually know,allot of people wanted to go back to basics,was making it easier.we actually have no proof other wise it would go to police.hopefully the family will gather what has been said and go to police.thank you for replying.
I had misfortune to be with a prolific liar for 5 years. one of the things I learnt about liars is they try to sell you a version of a story "THAT YOU WILL HOPEFULLY ACCEPT" and never question. When you dont accept a liars stories and keep asking questions you with start to see interesting behaviour in some way.
Because it was planned before he even knew he was gonna be asked to go to Tenerife. Honestly, I had it happen to me. They planned on me going to Amsterdam to smuggle to a Spanish Island. Someone I had an FWB with was sleeping with a Man I didn't know I was working for, she knew I was gonna be sent over and set up. Luckily, I left that World and didn't end up going back over. 10 years later she she surprisingly knocked on my door to tell me what they had planned for me. The ones gonna set me up was a ring of men from 4 different cities around the country. Here I am thinking I was Gangster nothing more than a plastic one. A small fish in a big ocean. Someone was luckily looking over me 🙏
My little sister is just back on Saturday there from Ibiza she is 19 yo and she said over there they were taking about jay and she also said the amount of people asking her did she want any free drugs she could have them but she ain’t like that and she said one man kept following her and saying she was really hot and should try this drug she ended up getting her friends and left and went back to there hotel she said he was a creep and wouldn’t leave her friend group alone. Thank god she had great wits about her and left it’s disgusting the way men can just walk up to woman and offer drugs some woman or young girls would go for that Aswell. She was well warned from me and my dad before she left about them dangers so Iam happy she is home and safe. Though it just shows you anything can happen to you. I want to thank harsh for keeping jays name going as they definitely deserve justice for jay. Warrens video is so sad I pray they can get some justice they sure deserve it 💯
I am so glad your sister is home safe, 🙏 its a scary world out there now..... everyone is saying about Warren's video, where did you watch it as l watch u tube l can't find it..
@@janinabuczynska9939 its not open but it does not stop people going in to masca ravine anyhow. the whole point is - as others saying it is not the same ravine
The Masca ravine is irrelevant. Jay was found in the Juan Lopez ravine where there is not a well-marked path down to the Juan Lopez beach and very few hikers try it.
It's very relevant, there were paths and sign posts. Why would he take a dangerous impossible route? Why would he refuse a lift. Not wait for a bus, get a taxi. Ask his friends to get help they had his location, he could have stayed right there till help arrived if he was scared lost or in trouble. The point is none of the forstory is true. The only time you would take that route is if you were being chased in the dark.. Or it just didn't happen, he was put there from the beach side.
@@jillbradbury2593 the way this video comes across is that Jay couldn’t of been in danger as masca gorge is an easy walk down to the beach , which it is . Jay walked in a completely separate ravine altogether no way near masca gorge . Masca gorge is tourist hotspot where you book and pay to go down it . That is what is confusing about this video. I don’t disagree with the other points you are stating but the masca gorge is irrelevant because it isn’t open to the public during the week so he couldn’t access it regardless as it was a Monday. Jay ‘apparently’ walked into the Juan Lopez ravine and that is dangerous and difficult terrain.
@jillbradbury2593 I agree, If he was terrified when leaving the airbnb, then why would he wait upto an hour and a half to ring his friends, why not text from inside the bnb, toilet, or outside of the bnb. Why not ring his mum.
@@jillbradbury2593 If a body was found at the foot of the cliffs in Folkestone it would be totally irrelevant to describe the beauty of Eastbourne and ask why the person didn't go there instead of Folkestone.
Afternoon Harsh. Warren slaters last video when he called jay brought me to tears. He doesnt buy what chris t is saying by look of it. I think the only way jay fell off that ravine is if it was pitch black and he couldnt see the way signposts etc.
Yes, or lack of visibility due to bad weather conditions, like fog. If the timeline is true, he wouldn't have gone that way, if he couldn't see in front of him. He would have stayed on the road. Ofelia said she saw him from her car, so no bad weather, if she was telling the truth. So could he have been drugged & dumped in the ravine at night, so if he awoke, he would have no idea where he was, and be terrified. That missing in Masca video was written, performed, produced, and released 2 days before Jay went missing, and had eerie lyrics. So how could this be an accident. Plus the maruba entry, said taxi for slater or however it was worded. Sorry Harsh, foul play me thinks.
He was never up in Masca to start with. His phone was found about a mile away from his body, and his clothes and possessions not on him, but near him. Don’t imagine he got undressed on his fall.
Masca Beach and ravine, isn't Juan Lopez or Juan Lopez beach. Different trail. But both have paths and hikers can get to the beaches 👍. i don't think Jay ever got to Masca, but then it would be good to look at where else he could gone straight after the festival
If Jay had said to Lucy I’ve fell in a ditch and broke my leg then he would’ve been in peril!!! BUT he was never in the mountains never mind in a ditch!!! It’s obvious Warren is not buying what he’s been told he is not stupid and neither are we❤
If anyone wants to fly to that island to see the beautiful views , then don’t waste money on a return flight , as there’s a massive chance you don’t or won’t get to use your flight home , due to being murdered 🤷♀️💔 , just saying 😢
@MarionLovell-t4r if I remember correct someone it may of been ophelia not sure. But they told a reporter that hikers and cyclists go missing all the time
@@sher...3080 I know , that’s why I said , one way flight only , believe me I’m not making fun of this poor lads situation in any shape or form , I just hope every mother in the land , watches this channel and believes in absolute horror of this case , before they lets there kids ever go there , sending love from Scotland 🏴❤️
You are another wonderful channel and wax and morris three wonderful channels keep going let’s get just for jay it’s you people that can do this we all support you all 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi ,I follow on jay slayer and watching a program about Ricky the young lad who went missing in Tenerife ,its very interesting what hapoen to him and many others young people whom go missing in Tenerife ,was a suggestion that Tenerife hills got many bodies and its a cemetery in Tenerife where they buried missing people who they can't find they family ,its just sad ,I used to go to Tenerife and Ibiza and lost some of my friends in Tenerife in 80s ,used to be high in drugs , most cocaína on does time and my ex used to ride is motorbike to Tenerife to collect cocaína, once the coke gone missing and our life was in dangerous by the morrocains in our country try to find us which they did and our windows we could see them inside the cars and follow us everywhere we go ,its was the most stressful time of my life as I didn't know my ex was involved in drugs until the day cocaína went missing, I didn't know that Tenerife and ibiza was still the same as was in 80s ...just unsafe and dangerous
Like me i cant say or spell any these places and ravines names 😂 i got one place stuck in my head tho and that's Santiago del tied. Because after jay 1st went missing for a few nights there was strange activity in that little town
Mate did he O D did the friends fall out and they fought among themselves . If it Mafia Related they would never of found Jay he would of been dumped at sea . The go fund me is the key
I wouid really love you to cover the disappearance of Lars Joachim Mittank He went to an airport, saw a doctor, sprinted out as fast as he could jumped over an airport fence and never seen again.
Only from Warren Slater's recent postings did I realise he phyically searched. To be fair I would not have expected him to do so givnr the physical exertion involved. But evidently he did. He has seen the path and can form an opinion about the likelihood involved of x or y happening.
If you were caught by a cactus. It is not life threatening. They said that to put the story out that jay was on his own walking in the gorge.. why did Lucy start the go fund money when jay was not even yet missing. Why did not her and brad get a taxi to pick him up. I do not believe that jay was walking in the mountains. Something happened to him before.
Jay was not in the Masca ravine he was in the Juan Lopez ravine the next one along. It is a much harder walk with not many trying it due to its difficult terrain. There is no marked footpaths and no sign posts in this ravine. It is not a easy walk only done by experienced people and normally only done as a guided hike.
@@Nicola-fu2tq exactly that ravine is defiantly somewhere you want to venture without experience and knowledge of the area. But should you not know this then your doomed as soon as you set off.
No one is trying to kill anyone's character but when you hang with ducks you are a duck!! Look at all the characters involved here and show me one boy scout!!!
I have thought from the start that Father’s Day Sunday night jay was gone and Tom Hilton wanted it done on Father’s Day that’s why they had so much time to set it all up so we thought Lucy set up go fund me so fast but really she waited 24 hrs and the two guys was just a distraction they only got rude of the body I believe bro
I now think the B+B is a cover story so they can convince everyone Jay walked down that way as a shortcut. This is due to the constant inconsistencies in the stories of the 3 main characters. Plus no one saw him in one of the busiest daytime tourist activities that's always busy? But, I still don't understand why he isn't seen on cctv around the nightclubs? Surely that would have more cameras due to trouble through drink,they're used to brits and they do tend to cause bother abroad.
The walk through the Masca trail using footpaths has been a red flag to me all along,I googled it and was suprised at the wide roped off footpaths,quite steep in places ,considering Jay supposedly walked off a cliff when there are proper paths just isnt logical is it ? Maybe someone used his phone from Masca trail to call Lucy and Brad and Jay wasn't even there,yet another red flag,or you get gravelly beaches, gravel on a building site,who knows what went on and who did what,maybe we'll never know.
I thought Jay was found in the Juan Lopez ravine. It’s less travelled than the Masca hike I think . To get to the beach you would need climbing ropes .
I personally think that we see all the videos of Jay because those are the ones that the people have sent. Nearly every single one of the kids at the rave were dancing with the phone in their hands while filming the event. So actually I believe that there are absolutely loads of different videos of the nrg but the ones that are relevant are the ones that are showing Jay
Why is ayub everywhere. Gone to somalia now. They said that he is british. How did he get his british passport. Where is lucy now. Did she go to jays funeral. I thought that they were best mates. I do not think that she was at his funeral why.
Since. early, when it was still just a search for someone missing, Ayud said Jay had left alive and well. That sounds like he was never there or did not leave well. Do you think he was ever at the house?
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU OR WAX REACHED OUT TO WARREN SLATER TO SEE IF YOU COULD DO A Q AND A it might help answer a lot of questions like did LUCY call debbie what clothes were recovered etc etc
Paul 'down the rapids' after a few days looked like he had shat his pants .....what went on with that for example did someone or people get in his ear he had a sudden change of personality
You are spot on Harsh i think exactly the same , and i dont think jay would have taken that route ,personally i dont think jay would have gone to the airbnb either,if jay was spiked or feeling very unwell then there would have been only one place he would have gone ,or tried to go,and that would have been back to where he was staying to get his head down and sleep, im not believing the stories from lucy brad aiyub , their stories if there was any truth in them, they would have remembered and wouldnt need to keep changing times etc , you would not forget anything especially time! It would be on your phones the exact times calls and messages video calls etc . None of their stories make any sense at all ,from the beginning to the end .Which means they know the truth and it must haunt them every single day and i hope that it does harsh, Their mobile phones should be checked ,or they should all volunteer to take a lie detector test ,to rule them out of the equation ,if they have nothing to hide ,then they would be happy to do that to clear their names and hand in their mobiles if they have nothing to hide .I doubt they would ever volunteer though i mean nobody would if they have been lying from day one though would they .keep up the fantastic work harsh ,lets get justice for Jay xxx
"THIS IS HOW YOU FKING WRITE, HOWARD BLUM!" That made me jump and laugh the way you changed from calm quiet reading that lovely description to BAM insult 😂😂😂😂
Jay would have no idea where to go, no phone communication, no maps , no clothes fit for occasional travel, no food or more importantly, water. Where tf would he go, to ??? IF HE WAS THERE AIIVE AT ALL!!! Imo. He never made it there alive. LUCY knows the answers, but staying dumb.....
I would like to question if Jay really needed to ask Ophelia about what time the bus will arrive, so has anyone got a decent image of the bus timetable at the bus stop outside the AirBnB ❓
Yes you make perfect sense he would follow the signs it would have been far too difficult for him to go off route, the route is there for a reason its the easiest route, he would not make his life any harder.....
Hey Harsh,Whatever happened to Jay that led to his ending wether intentional or not spining this missing in Maska story would have given those involved the time they needed to plan the next steps.If he had received injuries that led to his death decomposed body and theory of a fall from height would be less likely to be suspicious.
Makes you wonder why DTR & Cris-Ten only filmed themselves in random areas showing the difficulty in the terrain. As a hiker, you find routes that often aren’t obvious to standard people, but you always look for paths and stay within your capability. DTR has shown himself to be nothing but a fake, just out for a few weeks hiking. I watched him from the start - confused why he was going up extreme mountain climbs. Then claiming he was linked to Mountain Rescue. Also seen his early fake videos about being homeless in his mums back garden just desperate for fame & glory
So the person who sent THAT email to you isn't happy ,well sorry but should have thought of that before claiming a video was so-called legit ,and verified as to being Jay ,and yes many of us will have a pretty good idea who she is . Hopefully, lessons have been learnt, and she will think 🤔 before putting out crap 💩 Hopefully, as will Dan Well done Harsh 😘
Has anyone else following the JS mystery on this & half dozen other channels, getting more adverts on holiday breaks to the Canarie islands ?🤔 Thats how social media works though , right 🙄
This is the strange part, why are they withholding information on the disposition site. Why are the trails still open, September is their busiest month for hikers in Masca as cooler.
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Just read this harsh .... How old is this article do you know ? Because reading where to stay and eat it doesn't mention the Airbnb or cafe right next to it unless I'm not seeing it in my old age 😂 x
This describes the Masca Ravine, Barranco de Masca. Jay wandered down the Barranco Juan Lopez, and not on one of the the hiker's paths which are on the left (south) side of the ravine but on the north side according to Chris T which is a far more dangerous route. Perhaps that's why no-one saw him.
The Masca Ravine is where that earth slide happened and it's got a new pier for boat trips.
@@AlanH-u9o earthslide = controlled detonation!!
@@AlanH-u9o Nobody saw him because he didn't walk to inaccessible areas.
He was put there..
I wouldn't pay any attention to Chris Tenerife.
Chris tenerife made it look a lot different to Warren,s videos. Good for Warren to be putting his options put there bless his heart ❤️
Totally agree
@@Mummyk01 he's really trying hard to get some kind of lead to what happened to his son.Debbie and Zak must be broken.if someone knows anything about Jay Slater stop covering there's a decent family want closher for their son and brother.
I agree the story is bullshit.That lad was murdered and they all know it. What gets me is why none of them have been arrested. Get them all in and one of them will crack. We need justice for Jay 💙
I don't get how nobody has been questioned to the max when it's so obvious they're all lying through their back teeth and are all involved.. Thank you Harsh on this wet Monday xx
Thank you for keeping it real and current, Warren needs all the help he can get God bless him! Praying for answers and truth 🙏🏻!
I swear you’re the only person I click on Harsh now concerning Jay . People are not using common sense if it doesn’t make sense then it’s usually a load of bollox . Looking grand yourself hope you’re feeling better today 😃
Thank you 🙏
All about Harsh and Wax
@MikeHunt-x9 yep 100percent
Watch waxunfiltered too
True crime 1111 was brilliant last night really made you think she is so precise she was angry though
Three versions of the same event - Brad : Jay was fine & happy - Lucy : (a few seconds later) he was in trouble, Ayub : he was in a ditch & injured- all three versions can’t be true - so either one is the correct version or none of them are true and never happened.
Ayub also said they had a play fight before Jay left, really !!!!
@@sweetcountrygirlAyub translation: they had a real fight & Jay was never at the AirBnB (at least conscious, probably alive)
How did ayub know jay was in a ditch and injured Lucy didn’t know him and why would ayub say there isn’t any buses but the lady said 10 o’clock ayubs been there before you can clear see a bus stop outside your telling me that while he’s been there he’s never seen one bus stop outside airb&b now that’s bollocks
@@sweetcountrygirlwhen 😮 I missed that one.
I saw it on something and was surprised it was early on see above someone else commented
Not only did the searchers walk safely, they didn’t get “bitten by a cactus” either!
@@Sally66Titanic jay was not in the Masca ravine no searchers went down the ravine where he was. The ravine where he was is nothing like the Masca ravine it has no proper paths and there is no sign posts
@@homeofthecartersso his dad walked the wrong path? 😮 You'd think they'd have shown him the way he may have walked.
@@dianemcghie3422 no he walked the actual path the went to los cristianos yes it was the wrong path but it needed checking incase you did end up on the correct path.
We should rename the place as TERRORIFE not TENARIFE,
😂😂
And stop going there.
Tenerife
Pardon me ppl TENERIFE ,an honest mistake , but thank you all for your correction 🙏
Don't be an errorist ;)
He wasn’t there. End of.🤷♀️
Hi from Australia.. I follow you regularly as I like your sensible approach to the Jay Slater case. You break everything down and take it back to basics... keep going... we're all hoping for a break through of some sort... By the way youre looking amazing yourself..👌
Hi Deborah in Australia... from England UK 🇬🇧
I'm a Brit that live in Australia and harsh is the best when it comes to Jay. I'm hopeful that we get the answers that's needed.
Hi Deborah 😊
Native British but live in Australia...
Warren tickled me when he kept saying Dora the explorer 😅😅😅
Nice work H, now everyone and everything is really questionable. The strength of Warren, and his determination after this terrible tragedy is admirable ❤
💯👍 Harsh
Justice for Jay and his family 💙 💙 🙏
⚖️💙 for Jay 4eva1️⃣9️⃣
🌈🕊💙
You are describing the Masca Gorge, i think Jay was found in the less used Playa De Juan Lopez ravine as that is North of the cafe on the hill and his last phone ping, the direction he was heading. It's possible that he wasn't on the tourist trail and approached the ravine from high up, deciding to try go down one of the cliff trails.
My friends dad was reported as falling 300ft, yet when we visited the spot he fell it was basically a long tumble down a very steep rocky mountain hill. That type of reporting happens a lot when people fall on cliff trails. It doesn't necessarily mean he fell through the air or over a ledge, so it's not necessarily accurate to say he walked off a cliff as if he straight walked over a ledge.
Your right Harsh,everyone is being taken off of the real events due to all the stories going around.
What needs to happen is to go back to the begining and start again. All the pics n videos of jay are a majority of him in the club. The story breaker would be and what we need is a pic or vid of him leaving the club on the eventful night and that would be a game changer.....
Afternoon harsh hope you had a good weekend thank you for your continued hard work xx
Thank you Jane
Very astute commentary. Yes, Why was a picture like you describe painted by the primary actors!?! Grateful as always.
I know it’s a lot of work, but we need to go back in time and almost start over cuz so much stuff and bs are blinded people. Like the video Dan told us about and chis / luggy among others
Thanks again harsh .
So jay flew out with brad.met lucy and brandon,in tenerife.hooked up with ayub at a bar on first night being there ,because Lucy knew ayub.went to rave,lost his keys ,all friends went home early,he then caught a lift from ayub ,who was staying at a, a. b.n.b,jay then left at 7.30 to walk back to his apartment ,accidentally fell of a cliff on the way.meanwhile friends panic due to various phone calls, set up a go fund me page ,phone the authorities, for a search. (even when you look at this it reads like a story book for pre.school.)
@@judithtrigg1694 exactly…a bunch of teenagers & men too old for 18-30 holidays wrote a pamphlet
@judithtrigg1694 you're missing loads of lies and weird things there..most importantly Tom hilton was around when people said he wasn't allowed to leave the UK, ayub booked the air bnb just before he went there with a fake name, and left the only review thanking "the cleaner", his Co pilot Rocky couldn't stay away through it all and Lucy wouldn't show her face on camera etc etc Ps where's Brandon (aka Johnny vegas) and why hasn't he said a word??? Nothing makes sense..ie Brad "he does that..well he DID that anyway" 😡
@@Keithoconnellsongwriter I was breaking down what we actually know,allot of people wanted to go back to basics,was making it easier.we actually have no proof other wise it would go to police.hopefully the family will gather what has been said and go to police.thank you for replying.
I had misfortune to be with a prolific liar for 5 years. one of the things I learnt about liars is they try to sell you a version of a story "THAT YOU WILL HOPEFULLY ACCEPT" and never question. When you dont accept a liars stories and keep asking questions you with start to see interesting behaviour in some way.
I feel you on this one, exactly same with me . . My ex would lie. If i called him out that led to anger. Or i was crazy.😂 typical behaviour of liars
@@User-m6d9r Same here
@@lucyk.6601 we live & learn .💯
We used to go to teneriffe 3 times a year.....never again..would rather go to JAYWICK.....
Because it was planned before he even knew he was gonna be asked to go to Tenerife.
Honestly, I had it happen to me.
They planned on me going to Amsterdam to smuggle to a Spanish Island.
Someone I had an FWB with was sleeping with a Man I didn't know I was working for, she knew I was gonna be sent over and set up.
Luckily, I left that World and didn't end up going back over.
10 years later she she surprisingly knocked on my door to tell me what they had planned for me.
The ones gonna set me up was a ring of men from 4 different cities around the country.
Here I am thinking I was Gangster nothing more than a plastic one. A small fish in a big ocean.
Someone was luckily looking over me 🙏
My little sister is just back on Saturday there from Ibiza she is 19 yo and she said over there they were taking about jay and she also said the amount of people asking her did she want any free drugs she could have them but she ain’t like that and she said one man kept following her and saying she was really hot and should try this drug she ended up getting her friends and left and went back to there hotel she said he was a creep and wouldn’t leave her friend group alone. Thank god she had great wits about her and left it’s disgusting the way men can just walk up to woman and offer drugs some woman or young girls would go for that Aswell. She was well warned from me and my dad before she left about them dangers so Iam happy she is home and safe. Though it just shows you anything can happen to you. I want to thank harsh for keeping jays name going as they definitely deserve justice for jay. Warrens video is so sad I pray they can get some justice they sure deserve it 💯
Can we go anywhere on holiday now and be safe??
I am so glad your sister is home safe, 🙏 its a scary world out there now..... everyone is saying about Warren's video, where did you watch it as l watch u tube l can't find it..
@@Molly9-h5k yeah I no right definitely scary nowadays
Great video Harsh keep it up
Making sense once again Harsh, thank you
I still laugh my bollocks off at the, "he's been bitten by a cactus" claim. Viscous buggers them cactus plants.
Hello Harsh. I watch all your videos. Hope we get justice for Jay 💙
Different ravine 😬 masca ravine is a popular tourist walk . Juan Lopez is where Jay supposedly took a walk .
Or are you saying why didn’t he walk down that one instead of the one he chose ?
@@janinabuczynska9939 hopefully he will rectify it in his next video 👍. We don’t need more misinformation surrounding this case 😂🙈
@@janinabuczynska9939 its not open but it does not stop people going in to masca ravine anyhow. the whole point is - as others saying it is not the same ravine
The Masca ravine is irrelevant. Jay was found in the Juan Lopez ravine where there is not a well-marked path down to the Juan Lopez beach and very few hikers try it.
Yeah I’m confused by this too I thought we had established he hadn’t gone down there . If he had he would of been absolutely fine and dandy
It's very relevant, there were paths and sign posts.
Why would he take a dangerous impossible route?
Why would he refuse a lift.
Not wait for a bus, get a taxi.
Ask his friends to get help they had his location, he could have stayed right there till help arrived if he was scared lost or in trouble.
The point is none of the forstory is true.
The only time you would take that route is if you were being chased in the dark..
Or it just didn't happen, he was put there from the beach side.
@@jillbradbury2593 the way this video comes across is that Jay couldn’t of been in danger as masca gorge is an easy walk down to the beach , which it is . Jay walked in a completely separate ravine altogether no way near masca gorge . Masca gorge is tourist hotspot where you book and pay to go down it . That is what is confusing about this video. I don’t disagree with the other points you are stating but the masca gorge is irrelevant because it isn’t open to the public during the week so he couldn’t access it regardless as it was a Monday. Jay ‘apparently’ walked into the Juan Lopez ravine and that is dangerous and difficult terrain.
@jillbradbury2593 I agree, If he was terrified when leaving the airbnb, then why would he wait upto an hour and a half to ring his friends, why not text from inside the bnb, toilet, or outside of the bnb. Why not ring his mum.
@@jillbradbury2593 If a body was found at the foot of the cliffs in Folkestone it would be totally irrelevant to describe the beauty of Eastbourne and ask why the person didn't go there instead of Folkestone.
Wasn't it the Juan Lopez Ravine that Jay ended up in not the Masca Ravine?
Afternoon Harsh. Warren slaters last video when he called jay brought me to tears. He doesnt buy what chris t is saying by look of it.
I think the only way jay fell off that ravine is if it was pitch black and he couldnt see the way signposts etc.
Yes, or lack of visibility due to bad weather conditions, like fog. If the timeline is true, he wouldn't have gone that way, if he couldn't see in front of him. He would have stayed on the road. Ofelia said she saw him from her car, so no bad weather, if she was telling the truth. So could he have been drugged & dumped in the ravine at night, so if he awoke, he would have no idea where he was, and be terrified. That missing in Masca video was written, performed, produced, and released 2 days before Jay went missing, and had eerie lyrics. So how could this be an accident. Plus the maruba entry, said taxi for slater or however it was worded. Sorry Harsh, foul play me thinks.
He was never up in Masca to start with. His phone was found about a mile away from his body, and his clothes and possessions not on him, but near him. Don’t imagine he got undressed on his fall.
Great points Harsh but I still say Jay was never there that night! ❤️🇨🇦
Masca Beach and ravine, isn't Juan Lopez or Juan Lopez beach. Different trail. But both have paths and hikers can get to the beaches 👍. i don't think Jay ever got to Masca, but then it would be good to look at where else he could gone straight after the festival
Afternoon harsh, wish we knew the truth I'm not understanding why everything is such a mystery! Justice for jay 💙
Thanks just got my hair cut glad you noticed Harsh 😊
Sorry to hear that Harsh. You don't deserve any bullshit. You are all working hard for Jay and his family ❤
If Jay had said to Lucy I’ve fell in a ditch and broke my leg then he would’ve been in peril!!! BUT he was never in the mountains never mind in a ditch!!! It’s obvious Warren is not buying what he’s been told he is not stupid and neither are we❤
Thanks For posting....💞Love your content my friend😎🇨🇦
Thank you 🙏
If anyone wants to fly to that island to see the beautiful views , then don’t waste money on a return flight , as there’s a massive chance you don’t or won’t get to use your flight home , due to being murdered 🤷♀️💔 , just saying 😢
@MarionLovell-t4r if I remember correct someone it may of been ophelia not sure. But they told a reporter that hikers and cyclists go missing all the time
@@sher...3080 I know , that’s why I said , one way flight only , believe me I’m not making fun of this poor lads situation in any shape or form , I just hope every mother in the land , watches this channel and believes in absolute horror of this case , before they lets there kids ever go there , sending love from Scotland 🏴❤️
@MarionLovell-t4r I don't even want to say where I'm from on these channels after now even wax. Joseph and others getting cryptic threats
@@sher...3080 ❤️🏴
@@MarionLovell-t4rmy 37yr old married daughter and her husband are going this weekend....I've warned them 😂😂😂 to ring me every night b4 bed😂😂😂
You are another wonderful channel and wax and morris three wonderful channels keep going let’s get just for jay it’s you people that can do this we all support you all 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi ,I follow on jay slayer and watching a program about Ricky the young lad who went missing in Tenerife ,its very interesting what hapoen to him and many others young people whom go missing in Tenerife ,was a suggestion that Tenerife hills got many bodies and its a cemetery in Tenerife where they buried missing people who they can't find they family ,its just sad ,I used to go to Tenerife and Ibiza and lost some of my friends in Tenerife in 80s ,used to be high in drugs , most cocaína on does time and my ex used to ride is motorbike to Tenerife to collect cocaína, once the coke gone missing and our life was in dangerous by the morrocains in our country try to find us which they did and our windows we could see them inside the cars and follow us everywhere we go ,its was the most stressful time of my life as I didn't know my ex was involved in drugs until the day cocaína went missing, I didn't know that Tenerife and ibiza was still the same as was in 80s ...just unsafe and dangerous
Agree, you don't play around with Moroccan Mafia 😖 glad you made it out safe 🙏 me aswell, out of very few 😇
Well said Harsh you hit the nail on the head
Like me i cant say or spell any these places and ravines names 😂 i got one place stuck in my head tho and that's Santiago del tied. Because after jay 1st went missing for a few nights there was strange activity in that little town
Yes,I read about someone at a church but name pronunciation makes you forget what or where you'd seen it,just confusing.
Keep up the work Harsh........ Great content 😊
Mate
did he O D
did the friends fall out and they fought among themselves .
If it Mafia Related they would never of found Jay
he would of been dumped at sea .
The go fund me
is the key
Yeah, I've always wonder if Jay OD'd, but how did he end up going over the ravine?
I always appreciate your greeting, you're amazing as well 💕
Los Gigantes is The Giants. They are beautiful cliffs and a great place to visit.
Its all tosh isnt it. And now Shane Yerrell jumping to Rach and Brads defence......what about the more important people, Debbie, Warren and Zac
Who?🤔
Your truly on this you will find out what happened I absolutely 💯 know this
Good Afternoon Harsh.Bob &bits is not doing anymore Jay Slater videos.
Looks like people are been silenced because its bigger Than JAY AND US.💙
I wouid really love you to cover the disappearance of Lars Joachim Mittank
He went to an airport, saw a doctor, sprinted out as fast as he could jumped over an airport fence and never seen again.
Baffles me to death that one
Love your stories 😅😅😅
You the man brother
Only from Warren Slater's recent postings did I realise he phyically searched. To be fair I would not have expected him to do so givnr the physical exertion involved. But evidently he did. He has seen the path and can form an opinion about the likelihood involved of x or y happening.
Sounds like it’s describing the masca gorge hike not the juan Lopez.
If you were caught by a cactus.
It is not life threatening. They said that to put the story out that jay was on his own walking in the gorge.. why did Lucy start the go fund money when jay was not even yet missing. Why did not her and brad get a taxi to pick him up. I do not believe that jay was walking in the mountains. Something happened to him before.
No way this is mafia related he small fry
Yep i wonder about club photos ,as there is no date ,no time ,no location ,..is there A l at work ,as who is posting the footage /photos of Jay ?
Plus the mountains have fresh water all the way through
Jay was not in the Masca ravine he was in the Juan Lopez ravine the next one along. It is a much harder walk with not many trying it due to its difficult terrain. There is no marked footpaths and no sign posts in this ravine. It is not a easy walk only done by experienced people and normally only done as a guided hike.
Need GPS if no guide
@@Nicola-fu2tq exactly that ravine is defiantly somewhere you want to venture without experience and knowledge of the area. But should you not know this then your doomed as soon as you set off.
Messing up the sweets probably happened at a festival in uk and Tenerife was the prime place 😮
I heard J and B owed Ayb 10k from back in the UK🤔
…and that’s why Rach(H) set up the initial GFM for 10k…..allegedly🤓
No one is trying to kill anyone's character but when you hang with ducks you are a duck!! Look at all the characters involved here and show me one boy scout!!!
I have thought from the start that Father’s Day Sunday night jay was gone and Tom Hilton wanted it done on Father’s Day that’s why they had so much time to set it all up so we thought Lucy set up go fund me so fast but really she waited 24 hrs and the two guys was just a distraction they only got rude of the body I believe bro
It was Rach that set up the GFM originally on 17th. Debbie told her take it down.
The current one is dated 20 June.
I now think the B+B is a cover story so they can convince everyone Jay walked down that way as a shortcut. This is due to the constant inconsistencies in the stories of the 3 main characters. Plus no one saw him in one of the busiest daytime tourist activities that's always busy? But, I still don't understand why he isn't seen on cctv around the nightclubs? Surely that would have more cameras due to trouble through drink,they're used to brits and they do tend to cause bother abroad.
I thought he was on trail TF 436 heading towards Playa de Juan Lopez.
Agreed 👍💯
The walk through the Masca trail using footpaths has been a red flag to me all along,I googled it and was suprised at the wide roped off footpaths,quite steep in places ,considering Jay supposedly walked off a cliff when there are proper paths just isnt logical is it ? Maybe someone used his phone from Masca trail to call Lucy and Brad and Jay wasn't even there,yet another red flag,or you get gravelly beaches, gravel on a building site,who knows what went on and who did what,maybe we'll never know.
I thought Jay was found in the Juan Lopez ravine. It’s less travelled than the Masca hike I think . To get to the beach you would need climbing ropes .
Bitten by a cactus lol you do make laugh, thanks for all your great input.
Why were people filming Jay at the club like he was chosen.
That’s what I’ve always thought everyone just staring whilst he was out of his head looked so alone poor jay xx
I personally think that we see all the videos of Jay because those are the ones that the people have sent. Nearly every single one of the kids at the rave were dancing with the phone in their hands while filming the event. So actually I believe that there are absolutely loads of different videos of the nrg but the ones that are relevant are the ones that are showing Jay
Talking sense once more Mr harsh. Shame there's so many people can't smell the shite. Pissing and against the wind , are words that come to mind.😏
Wax has just put a video out from jays dad titled ‘THE HILLS HAVE EYES very interesting
Harsh you cheered me right up 😂 not even Dora or the dog 🐶 😂😂😂
Thank you Harsh for highlighting how ridiculous this narrative is. Why on earth has this not been looked into properly? 🤔
Why is ayub everywhere. Gone to somalia now. They said that he is british. How did he get his british passport. Where is lucy now. Did she go to jays funeral. I thought that they were best mates. I do not think that she was at his funeral why.
Since. early, when it was still just a search for someone missing, Ayud said Jay had left alive and well. That sounds like he was never there or did not leave well. Do you think he was ever at the house?
This brings things into a new light.! If there were pirates involved perhaps he'd been given the black spot.!!! 😮
It all boils down to the laws and jurisdiction. Tenerife was an island to exploit these laws. Hence, no arrests and charges.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU OR WAX REACHED OUT TO WARREN SLATER TO SEE IF YOU COULD DO A Q AND A it might help answer a lot of questions like did LUCY call debbie what clothes were recovered etc etc
If Warren wanted to speak to us mate he would reach out himself. He seems pretty capable
@@REALHARSH TRUE
Debbie said in interview that Lucy did not ring her was police she was clear about that but Lucy told Hayley she did ring Debbie
@@laurenpaterson3475 this is the trouble with this case 1 person says 1 thing another say another thing though would tend to believe Debbie
Lucy is a liar@@laurenpaterson3475
Paul 'down the rapids' after a few days looked like he had shat his pants .....what went on with that for example did someone or people get in his ear he had a sudden change of personality
He bonkers slept in his mums garden pretending be homeless Hayley done video on him how creepy he is
You are spot on Harsh i think exactly the same , and i dont think jay would have taken that route ,personally i dont think jay would have gone to the airbnb either,if jay was spiked or feeling very unwell then there would have been only one place he would have gone ,or tried to go,and that would have been back to where he was staying to get his head down and sleep, im not believing the stories from lucy brad aiyub , their stories if there was any truth in them, they would have remembered and wouldnt need to keep changing times etc , you would not forget anything especially time! It would be on your phones the exact times calls and messages video calls etc . None of their stories make any sense at all ,from the beginning to the end .Which means they know the truth and it must haunt them every single day and i hope that it does harsh, Their mobile phones should be checked ,or they should all volunteer to take a lie detector test ,to rule them out of the equation ,if they have nothing to hide ,then they would be happy to do that to clear their names and hand in their mobiles if they have nothing to hide .I doubt they would ever volunteer though i mean nobody would if they have been lying from day one though would they .keep up the fantastic work harsh ,lets get justice for Jay xxx
Totally agree with you
So true only one person slipped
"THIS IS HOW YOU FKING WRITE, HOWARD BLUM!" That made me jump and laugh the way you changed from calm quiet reading that lovely description to BAM insult 😂😂😂😂
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@@REALHARSH 😊😂 I wasn't expecting it but loved it haha 😂
You're looking well lately what's your secret? I need all the help I can get lol
I agree it's as far fetched as they come..
What a load of bollocks.
Will we ever know what truly went on.
Hope someone slips up.
Justice for Jay ❤
Thank you you look amazing too
Thanks
Thank you very much Franks!!!
Spot on
I heard in the beginning, maybe MWT,? That he left after overhearing a conversation/ call, so I believe it was someone that he was trying to escape
Jay would have no idea where to go, no phone communication, no maps , no clothes fit for occasional travel, no food or more importantly, water. Where tf would he go, to ??? IF HE WAS THERE AIIVE AT ALL!!! Imo. He never made it there alive. LUCY knows the answers, but staying dumb.....
I don’t think he was in any fit state to go up there.
I would like to question if Jay really needed to ask Ophelia about what time the bus will arrive, so has anyone got a decent image of the bus timetable at the bus stop outside the AirBnB ❓
The NRG closes at four so were was jay for two and a half hours he didn’t get to airb&b until 6.30
Yes you make perfect sense he would follow the signs it would have been far too difficult for him to go off route, the route is there for a reason its the easiest route, he would not make his life any harder.....
wrong ravine and wrong description - there are no signs in the ravine jay allegedly walked
Hey Harsh,Whatever happened to Jay that led to his ending wether intentional or not spining this missing in Maska story would have given those involved the time they needed to plan the next steps.If he had received injuries that led to his death decomposed body and theory of a fall from height would be less likely to be suspicious.
Makes you wonder why DTR & Cris-Ten only filmed themselves in random areas showing the difficulty in the terrain. As a hiker, you find routes that often aren’t obvious to standard people, but you always look for paths and stay within your capability.
DTR has shown himself to be nothing but a fake, just out for a few weeks hiking. I watched him from the start - confused why he was going up extreme mountain climbs. Then claiming he was linked to Mountain Rescue. Also seen his early fake videos about being homeless in his mums back garden just desperate for fame & glory
Totally agree . Anyone can see it's lies. I wouldn't want these people as friendse.
So the person who sent THAT email to you isn't happy ,well sorry but should have thought of that before claiming a video was so-called legit ,and verified as to being Jay ,and yes many of us will have a pretty good idea who she is .
Hopefully, lessons have been learnt, and she will think 🤔 before putting out crap 💩
Hopefully, as will Dan
Well done Harsh 😘
Thank you 🙏
Has anyone else following the JS mystery on this & half dozen other channels, getting more adverts on holiday breaks to the Canarie islands ?🤔
Thats how social media works though , right 🙄
SO EXACTLY WHERE ABOUTS DID HE GET HIMSELF INTO A POSITION TO FALL FROM A HEIGHT??? AND FURTHER STILL NO PHOTOS OF EXACT SPOT WHERE FOUND
This is the strange part, why are they withholding information on the disposition site. Why are the trails still open, September is their busiest month for hikers in Masca as cooler.
Afternoon 😂 it’s all about the meat and potatoes 😂
Absolutely