Played this a few times, this game is too highroll, she's an underrated item holder but I would not reroll her rn, since she struggles lategame. She's getting buffed next patch tho.
Looks a decent comp for AP long distance pals, with morde midgame and kayn carry late game. Not sure how realistic it is, but since kayn is not played right now and then with the combined ap should be able to do stuff. Now this next bit is just a little bit of a brainstorm but im having this theory people get baited by headlining their main carry, for example, kayle gets bonus as, which is kind of worthless compared to some of the other headliner pentakill champions. I get that you usually go for headliner the carry, because you can hit the 3 star way easier, but how necessary is it for a 2 cost to be headliner to hit? For example morde penta kill might be more useful as a headliner in this comp. Or even a unit like gnar who you could replace easier later for a 4 or 5 cost headliner, if you hit of course. Would love to hear how you would think about this, since this works decently well in plat, but maybe not with challenger lobby tempo.
I tried this a couple of weeks ago when 2 cost reroll was meta because I was tilted, got gnar 3, kayle 3 with neither chosen, got me to 8, found 2 spats and chosen viego 3. Rolled the lobby, definitely good and not high roll dependent (0 lp masters lobby.)
For those wondering why you don't build rageblade, it's because she already gets a great attack speed buff and the raw damage from items like Giant Slayer/Rabadons to get through the front line matters much more with edgelords as you want to shred through the enemy frontline as fast as you can, you don't have time to stack up a rageblade when your frontline won't give you the time to do so.
kayle would be so much better if she didnt ha've a 30 second cast time on her ability. as an attack speed based champ she is severely punished damage wise everytime her mana bar fills up and it feels awful. Hell most of the bad champs in this game suck because of the cast time on their abilities while other people just have instant cast abilities that dont mess with their attack pattern at all.
@@kimchijam oh yes both those things are super relevant in deciding what items are actually useful on a unit. If you played this game at a decent level you’d know Kayle has built in AS from edgelord so itemizing with additional AS does not benefit her at all. Her ability is a damage nuke not an on hit like previous sets. You probably think you’re suppose to build omnivamp on Urgot even though he has a shield and passive omnivamp from country. You build Kayle with AP.
Played something similar to this today. Got 1st place with Kayle 3 with True Damage Emblem, Guard breaker and Gun blade. Was running 3 start Mord as well. Augments were Caretaker Ally (Kayle) , Return on Investment and Cursed Crown.
@@bp_ick3788 Lol no kayle scales terribly. The only reason dishsoap won is because he highrolled out his mind and he even admits that. If you want to climb spam ez ahri cait or just bot 4
@@lee-cl8td This guy also highrolled? It's hard to go out at 7th without playing poorly in this guy's position as a 2 cost reroller. Dish soaps position stage 4 is typical of this board; his level 7 roll-down didn't go as planned, and he was still winning. However, his late-game board was a high roll, so he won. The late game doesn't matter here, though, as this guy got knocked out 7th, which roughly happens from 4-6 to 5-3, meaning he high rolled mid-game and still went 7th? I don't need to explain why that doesn't make sense, right?
The tech was not kayle, It was morder 3 with Long distance pal, any AP carry with morder can do the same amount of damage or even better, like morder HL with double archangel karthus backline .
Early in the patch I decided to try to make a Kayle reroll comp and I managed to play it from Diamond to Masters. It was pretty consistent top 4 but hard to first with. Mine played around superfans so I did end up with a rageblade on her. It works fine, but I can see the argument for full damage/gunblade from this video.
I wonder how her build changes once her cast animation gets buffed - and lets be honest, it WILL get buffed. I get why rageblade isnt stellar on her. However, Nashors sounds really good on her.
Side note, in gold elo I've played 3 star lulu ap carry for a top 2. Built shojin, JG plus I think nashors. She's not terrible but better options of course
@@nguyenthinh5594 Olaf is another rather unexplored champ~ He probably wants rageblade and something for lifesteal(BT, if possible). I wonder how good runaans is on him. He is all AAs after all.
Of course it's difficult. If I learned two years ago that apples are apples I'm not gonna start calling them grapefruits now because someone decided that'd be a cool different thing. It's an apple.
It would be like saying a Fuji apple vs a Gala apple. Sure they’re both apples but they’re still different. Headliners have different traits for champs. It’s really not hard to say what the set calls them and I’ve been playing since Beta. I personally think it’s being lazy and can confuse somebody who’s picking up the game now.
hate all these click baity titles literally every vid is "Busted" or "BROKEN" in the title man. Just speak like a real person. Its tiring and its never busted or broken to where it needs a immediate patch. Now that broken, What really broken are these content creators brains. Anything for clicks right??
Genuinely dunno why ppl have problems with exaggerated titles, do you not look at anything else online? Can just watch the content to see if you enjoy it.
There is something called algorythms and online creators have to play into them if they want to be remotely successful. Dont hate the player hate the game
@@dishsoaptft i have problems with exaggerated titles because its all the algorithm pushes. you should know your playing the youtube game. When exagerrated titles "EXAGERATE" you watch the vid and its not what u expect. who wouldnt get annoyed? its like common sense to not like something when u get misled.......
What do you want the title to be? “Kayle 3 game”? Having titles like this attracts potentially new users via the way the RUclips algorithm works. If you don’t like it don’t watch it, almost every RUclipsr across all genres does the same
I mean, it's not a 5 minute video. The length *that you can see before you click* implies that it's a full game. The title implies gameplay. This is objectively not bait lol, if you don't want to watch challenger players play full games then just... don't
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Played this a few times, this game is too highroll, she's an underrated item holder but I would not reroll her rn, since she struggles lategame. She's getting buffed next patch tho.
Looks a decent comp for AP long distance pals, with morde midgame and kayn carry late game. Not sure how realistic it is, but since kayn is not played right now and then with the combined ap should be able to do stuff.
Now this next bit is just a little bit of a brainstorm but im having this theory people get baited by headlining their main carry, for example, kayle gets bonus as, which is kind of worthless compared to some of the other headliner pentakill champions.
I get that you usually go for headliner the carry, because you can hit the 3 star way easier, but how necessary is it for a 2 cost to be headliner to hit?
For example morde penta kill might be more useful as a headliner in this comp. Or even a unit like gnar who you could replace easier later for a 4 or 5 cost headliner, if you hit of course. Would love to hear how you would think about this, since this works decently well in plat, but maybe not with challenger lobby tempo.
I'd say it's not gonna work in high elo because u want to preserve as much hp as possible so u forced po play the strongest board @@Friezje
I tried this a couple of weeks ago when 2 cost reroll was meta because I was tilted, got gnar 3, kayle 3 with neither chosen, got me to 8, found 2 spats and chosen viego 3. Rolled the lobby, definitely good and not high roll dependent (0 lp masters lobby.)
Aww thanks for this. It is appreciated
this is why you're the best. thanks for making good content and educating everyone
For those wondering why you don't build rageblade, it's because she already gets a great attack speed buff and the raw damage from items like Giant Slayer/Rabadons to get through the front line matters much more with edgelords as you want to shred through the enemy frontline as fast as you can, you don't have time to stack up a rageblade when your frontline won't give you the time to do so.
kayle would be so much better if she didnt ha've a 30 second cast time on her ability. as an attack speed based champ she is severely punished damage wise everytime her mana bar fills up and it feels awful.
Hell most of the bad champs in this game suck because of the cast time on their abilities while other people just have instant cast abilities that dont mess with their attack pattern at all.
idk why they do that, kayle had the same issue some other set
She is not attack speed based this set.
@@dylanvcr given that her superfan item is rageblade and headliner effect is more attackspeed, i think she's based on attackspeed as her main stat
@@kimchijam oh yes both those things are super relevant in deciding what items are actually useful on a unit. If you played this game at a decent level you’d know Kayle has built in AS from edgelord so itemizing with additional AS does not benefit her at all. Her ability is a damage nuke not an on hit like previous sets. You probably think you’re suppose to build omnivamp on Urgot even though he has a shield and passive omnivamp from country. You build Kayle with AP.
@@dylanvcrwhat do you build on Urgot? I've tried playing it multiple times with omnivamp and failed tremendously :(
Played something similar to this today. Got 1st place with Kayle 3 with True Damage Emblem, Guard breaker and Gun blade. Was running 3 start Mord as well. Augments were Caretaker Ally (Kayle) , Return on Investment and Cursed Crown.
Title: RANK 1 SECRET KAYLE REROLL
Dishsoaep: yea don’t play this
You sold me when I saw Kayle beat a True Damage Caitlyn headliner.
Kayle needs a visual update on her ability I cant seem to know where's the damage coming from
just went this in my game got kayle 3 and morde 3 with karthus 2 and illaoi and yorikc and went out 7th.... nice
How do you go out 7th with a 2 cost reroll in a position where you can hit mord 3 in this meta? Skill issue tbh.
Literally only way that happens is in scuttle puddle
To be fair aside for illaoi and morde, all of those units are trash
@@bp_ick3788 Lol no kayle scales terribly. The only reason dishsoap won is because he highrolled out his mind and he even admits that. If you want to climb spam ez ahri cait or just bot 4
@@lee-cl8td This guy also highrolled? It's hard to go out at 7th without playing poorly in this guy's position as a 2 cost reroller. Dish soaps position stage 4 is typical of this board; his level 7 roll-down didn't go as planned, and he was still winning. However, his late-game board was a high roll, so he won. The late game doesn't matter here, though, as this guy got knocked out 7th, which roughly happens from 4-6 to 5-3, meaning he high rolled mid-game and still went 7th? I don't need to explain why that doesn't make sense, right?
The tech was not kayle, It was morder 3 with Long distance pal, any AP carry with morder can do the same amount of damage or even better, like morder HL with double archangel karthus backline .
Yep. And you really need to highroll to get Mord 3 with all these sentinel forcers right now.
a very interesting game to watch! sick upload as always!
Early in the patch I decided to try to make a Kayle reroll comp and I managed to play it from Diamond to Masters. It was pretty consistent top 4 but hard to first with. Mine played around superfans so I did end up with a rageblade on her. It works fine, but I can see the argument for full damage/gunblade from this video.
Just first placed with this lmao. Only downside is that Kayle gets rageblade from Superfan so I ran some guardian / sentinal stuff instead.
I finally have use for Rods! (other than Crownguard ofc)
Pretty interesting. I always thought the secret was in attack speed, pero but it seems I was wrong.
I've had a 20 win streak with Shock Treatment Reroll Edglelord Kayle with Guinsoos and Nashors. Lost to Last Stand 6 Sentinel Ahri unfortunately.
I wonder how her build changes once her cast animation gets buffed - and lets be honest, it WILL get buffed.
I get why rageblade isnt stellar on her. However, Nashors sounds really good on her.
The flex. As soon as Kayle gets 3* he just doesn't care about his positioning at all.
Kayn trapped just standing around lol
Is the hoj actually an item we want on kayle? Would we prefer something else?
he was predicting the kayn endgame trust
Gunblade
@@lucaspeters-murphy2770 word.
Side note, in gold elo I've played 3 star lulu ap carry for a top 2. Built shojin, JG plus I think nashors. She's not terrible but better options of course
A fast 3* lulu is bonkers. You're not contested for it
Pentakill my fave to build and Kayle def holds it down till you get viego. Love her
is edgelord kayle as good or is penta necessary?
He literally says in the vídeo that the edgelord is better..
@@rucao7822He also said that he doesnt know for sure.
Is there no audio?
There is audio
@@bobheinjenkins huh my video is bugged
Oop I’ve been playing Kayle reroll for two weeks now 😂
It is easier for players to grief the units this patch especially if it has headliner
I dont get how you were winning with kayle 2 morde 2 for so long
*sigh* time to hold kayles and jaxs on my roll downs now
How many champs must we hold unto for rerolls now?! Seems like a bit too much..
you know what else is broken, 6 bruiser olaf3 with augs like epitaph or anything honestly, insta first if you hit sett3 as well
@@nguyenthinh5594 Olaf is another rather unexplored champ~ He probably wants rageblade and something for lifesteal(BT, if possible).
I wonder how good runaans is on him. He is all AAs after all.
That sounds trash lowkey ngl, pretty sure any meta 4cost headliner with giantslayer demolishes your entire team
And....there goes my secret comp to finally get masters.
Lord....I have a love/hate relationship with tft RUclipsrs 😢
and u probably need a pentakill emblem on kayn too
kocham ta gre aaaa
Bro lost the cool and started ranting 💀💀
Does it really hurt to say Headliner? Like it’s one more syllable and they work a bit different.
Of course it's difficult. If I learned two years ago that apples are apples I'm not gonna start calling them grapefruits now because someone decided that'd be a cool different thing. It's an apple.
It would be like saying a Fuji apple vs a Gala apple. Sure they’re both apples but they’re still different. Headliners have different traits for champs. It’s really not hard to say what the set calls them and I’ve been playing since Beta. I personally think it’s being lazy and can confuse somebody who’s picking up the game now.
@@King__B.Logical first person on the planet to take offense to someone saying chosen instead of headliner LOL
@@yeotsujin8837 People are free to say what they want, doesn’t mean I can’t criticize why I think it’s lazy. LoL
First time since Set 1 i hate a Set .
u got a mord 3 star lol,if ur mord is 2 star ,then ur kayle would die before she can deal any damage
certified wokege.
i Tried it two times. I got eigth and six places with this. Trash comp
hate all these click baity titles literally every vid is "Busted" or "BROKEN" in the title man. Just speak like a real person. Its tiring and its never busted or broken to where it needs a immediate patch. Now that broken, What really broken are these content creators brains. Anything for clicks right??
Blame the audience, they're the ones that makes clickbait work. Content creators just wanna make a living, bruv.
Genuinely dunno why ppl have problems with exaggerated titles, do you not look at anything else online? Can just watch the content to see if you enjoy it.
There is something called algorythms and online creators have to play into them if they want to be remotely successful. Dont hate the player hate the game
@@dishsoaptft i have problems with exaggerated titles because its all the algorithm pushes. you should know your playing the youtube game. When exagerrated titles "EXAGERATE" you watch the vid and its not what u expect. who wouldnt get annoyed? its like common sense to not like something when u get misled.......
What do you want the title to be? “Kayle 3 game”? Having titles like this attracts potentially new users via the way the RUclips algorithm works. If you don’t like it don’t watch it, almost every RUclipsr across all genres does the same
play this for 10 games,and lost 150 lp lol,if u cant hit mord 3 star ,then u cant even get into top 5
Ta❤
They are called Headliners, not chosen.
This set is a contender for the worst set I've played, already done with it
tricking noobs again i see 🧐
If this was a 5 min video I would watch but not for a full game bait
how is it bait
I mean, it's not a 5 minute video. The length *that you can see before you click* implies that it's a full game. The title implies gameplay.
This is objectively not bait lol, if you don't want to watch challenger players play full games then just... don't
least adhd tft player
@@toadonwheelsMan confused Dishsoap with ShawnTFT 😂😂😂
Speed up or don't watch lil gup
1st
Kayle bad
Just dont play it