Thank you for this! I’m surrounded by Amish and over the years have learned money is the most important thing to them. These lights and batteries cost them and they get nothing in return for the money spent. You worry about their safety, what about your safety? This need should address everybody’s safety not just theirs.They shouldn’t be allowed on the roads without license registration and inspection.
@metalcutter8579....You have a rather cynical opinion about the money, but I cannot prove that one way or the other. But...I agree 100% with your statement about the safety of others who suddenly come up behind a buggy. They say that God will protect them, but isn't God concerned about the people in the cars & trucks that might suddenly come up on them in their buggy, particularly in fog or at night or rainy, slick roads or maybe right around a sharp curve in the road? I am a Christian, but I am not going to go out there and knowingly do something that I know is dangerous and expect God to keep me safe, especially if that can get others hurt or killed. That is not what faith and trust in the Lord is about. That is being foolish and unwise and is not how Christianity works.
Time to vote that judge out! Me, next county over, Wayne and Holmes it's not being enforced, probably past 20 with none Sunday alone. Some are, I took a video of it,they stop buy seeing what horses I have often. I need to write a letter like that every time a get dang gum seatbelt tickets. Holmes county has made a killing off me
It is really bizar how egocentric they think. The lights are not only for your safety. It is for the rest of the people who use roads. If you want to believe in a being, if you want to think that a being is deciding when you die or get injured it is your own. Do not put it on everybody else. I do not believe in some being sitting somewhere and ruling everything. But I will never ever put the fact that I don't believe upon somebody else. If they want to believe, it is their right. If you want to live according to their believes of convictions in your own personal live, that is completely your right. If I come into your home and you have a custom of saying a prayer to a being, I will be completely respectful and sit still at your table, but do not ask that in my home. We start eating the way we want. And if you want to say your prayer in your head and for that moment not participate in the conversations, be my guest, but do not demand that we change our way in our house. You don't do it for me either. It is a 2-way street. Religion is something personal. If you ask respect for having convictions, have them the same to somebody else. Especially to the rest of humanity. And if they believe that (in their case) god creates life, they should have respect for others live. It is their choice to ride in conditions where you need light. They can also stay home or at least not ride a buggy during those conditions. They don't live the way it was when the bible was written, so it is a conceptual thing. I could even say that it is what happens when people are forced to emigrate. They cling harder to their culture. That is why they want to live in those days, the days they were religious refugees. It is not a biblical reason. It is a cultural thing.
Thank you for such a very thought out response. You do bring up a good point...what about the other people on the road. I would think that if this were my conviction I would not go out in fog or night time conditions. again, thank you!
🎉 Yes they want to be safe but how can they when they are have a horse-and-buggy at 11 o'clock at night on a busy road I come up behind them and do it in 55 miles an hour and what do I see a horse-and-buggy I almost ran into them it's bullcrap they need to have something on the back of their cart they're buggy
Yes, they do need safety lights or placards, or not drive in the dark. MOST of the Amish in my area do follow the law and do have lights on their buggy. I still keep watch just in case.
Amish is not a Religion its a way of life thats how they get there way in alot of things when it comes to the gov. They are gov buy rules each community does not have the same rules.
@jeromemcandrew5731 Amish is a sect or a denomination, if you will, of Christianity. It is the same with many of the different Christian denominations that have their own particular traditions that other denominations do not follow. For example, Baptists have slightly different traditions than the Church of Christ or the Pentecostal denominations. Baptists allow musical instruments in the singing part of their worship service. Church of Christ believes in Acapella only...no instruments. Pentecostals believe in speaking in tongues and some believe in so-called "slain in the spirit ". Baptists and Church of Christ does not. And each denomination points to certain scriptures to prove their particular belief. The Catholic church is Christian and it has traditions and certain practices that are different from all the rest of Christian denominations, and they too, point to certain scriptures to prove their beliefs. And there are many more differences between the different Christian denominations, some real minor, others a big deal. Yea, it's all kind of fuzzy. It is just that the Amish are much more strict in their traditions and how much they allow themselves to accept 'modern ways'. And the safety issue concerning the buggies on the paved roads happens to be one of them. Most of the rest of modern Christian denominations have very few problems, if any, with accepting modern conveniences such as car lights and hazard lights, etc. I think, though, it's rather like splitting a fine hair: the Amish will use the reflective triangle farm implement signs; and they certainly were not part of their very first traditions, and will use battery operated flashlights, which their very first ancestors did not have, but balk at putting a battery operated flasher on their buggies to help protect their people while traveling on a modern paved road with lots of modern cars & trucks zipping by. I have a great deal of respect for the Amish and their way of life. They work very hard every day to maintain their basic lifestyles. How many of us could survive under the same conditions...??? But...I think they need to carefully re-examine their stand about not allowing a simple flasher on their buggies.
I agree. It is VERY DIFFICULT to see the buggy until you are right on them sometimes. It is a safety issue for everyone. This got me thinking about honoring our mother and father. My father grew up during the depression and there are many things I was taught by him that would not apply today in "this time"...I don't feel as thought I dishonor him if I make decisions today that would not have been a situation for him when he was alive...I hope that makes sense. In this case the Amish man's father probably didn't have as many cars on the road for example.
@@LivingThatSimpleLife....Precisely. How far back do the Amish go and say it is 'here', at this year that we will begin to honor our fathers & mothers and will not do anything that they did not do? What about using electricity, or any other 'modern' inventions that they now use...in however limited situations it may be, but electricity & other things, nonetheless? Isn't this 'dis-honoring' their first fathers & mothers? Like I previously said, what about those triangle reflective signs that were not in existence in the times of the first Amish? Where do they draw the line in history and say..."At this point forward we will honor our fathers & mothers daily traditions and way of life..."? I just hope that they see the wisdom that God gives them.." Wise as serpents, harmless as doves...", and do the wise thing about the buggy lights...for the safety of ALL of God's children.
@@marbleman52 Like i said it a way of life .I have two Amish communities buy me and there not the same one has lights on there buggies and the one does not . Its all rules they have to go buy. Each community has different rules.
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Thank you for this! I’m surrounded by Amish and over the years have learned money is the most important thing to them. These lights and batteries cost them and they get nothing in return for the money spent. You worry about their safety, what about your safety? This need should address everybody’s safety not just theirs.They shouldn’t be allowed on the roads without license registration and inspection.
You bring up a good point. Thank you for sharing.
@metalcutter8579....You have a rather cynical opinion about the money, but I cannot prove that one way or the other.
But...I agree 100% with your statement about the safety of others who suddenly come up behind a buggy. They say that God will protect them, but isn't God concerned about the people in the cars & trucks that might suddenly come up on them in their buggy, particularly in fog or at night or rainy, slick roads or maybe right around a sharp curve in the road?
I am a Christian, but I am not going to go out there and knowingly do something that I know is dangerous and expect God to keep me safe, especially if that can get others hurt or killed. That is not what faith and trust in the Lord is about. That is being foolish and unwise and is not how Christianity works.
I so much agree with you and I don't like the way they treat their horses either
Time to vote that judge out! Me, next county over, Wayne and Holmes it's not being enforced, probably past 20 with none Sunday alone. Some are, I took a video of it,they stop buy seeing what horses I have often.
I need to write a letter like that every time a get dang gum seatbelt tickets. Holmes county has made a killing off me
I would drive a horse and buggy just so I didn't have to wear a seat belt!
@@LivingThatSimpleLife hahaha
It is really bizar how egocentric they think. The lights are not only for your safety. It is for the rest of the people who use roads. If you want to believe in a being, if you want to think that a being is deciding when you die or get injured it is your own. Do not put it on everybody else.
I do not believe in some being sitting somewhere and ruling everything. But I will never ever put the fact that I don't believe upon somebody else. If they want to believe, it is their right. If you want to live according to their believes of convictions in your own personal live, that is completely your right. If I come into your home and you have a custom of saying a prayer to a being, I will be completely respectful and sit still at your table, but do not ask that in my home. We start eating the way we want. And if you want to say your prayer in your head and for that moment not participate in the conversations, be my guest, but do not demand that we change our way in our house. You don't do it for me either. It is a 2-way street.
Religion is something personal.
If you ask respect for having convictions, have them the same to somebody else. Especially to the rest of humanity.
And if they believe that (in their case) god creates life, they should have respect for others live.
It is their choice to ride in conditions where you need light. They can also stay home or at least not ride a buggy during those conditions.
They don't live the way it was when the bible was written, so it is a conceptual thing. I could even say that it is what happens when people are forced to emigrate. They cling harder to their culture. That is why they want to live in those days, the days they were religious refugees. It is not a biblical reason. It is a cultural thing.
Thank you for such a very thought out response. You do bring up a good point...what about the other people on the road. I would think that if this were my conviction I would not go out in fog or night time conditions. again, thank you!
🎉 Yes they want to be safe but how can they when they are have a horse-and-buggy at 11 o'clock at night on a busy road I come up behind them and do it in 55 miles an hour and what do I see a horse-and-buggy I almost ran into them it's bullcrap they need to have something on the back of their cart they're buggy
Yes, they do need safety lights or placards, or not drive in the dark. MOST of the Amish in my area do follow the law and do have lights on their buggy. I still keep watch just in case.
Seemsore like they're using there religion as a shield to not fallow laws sorry but religion doesn't trump laws
Amish is not a Religion its a way of life thats how they get there way in alot of things when it comes to the gov. They are gov buy rules each community does not have the same rules.
@jeromemcandrew5731 Amish is a sect or a denomination, if you will, of Christianity. It is the same with many of the different Christian denominations that have their own particular traditions that other denominations do not follow. For example, Baptists have slightly different traditions than the Church of Christ or the Pentecostal denominations. Baptists allow musical instruments in the singing part of their worship service. Church of Christ believes in Acapella only...no instruments. Pentecostals believe in speaking in tongues and some believe in so-called "slain in the spirit ". Baptists and Church of Christ does not. And each denomination points to certain scriptures to prove their particular belief.
The Catholic church is Christian and it has traditions and certain practices that are different from all the rest of Christian denominations, and they too, point to certain scriptures to prove their beliefs. And there are many more differences between the different Christian denominations, some real minor, others a big deal.
Yea, it's all kind of fuzzy.
It is just that the Amish are much more strict in their traditions and how much they allow themselves to accept 'modern ways'. And the safety issue concerning the buggies on the paved roads happens to be one of them. Most of the rest of modern Christian denominations have very few problems, if any, with accepting modern conveniences such as car lights and hazard lights, etc.
I think, though, it's rather like splitting a fine hair: the Amish will use the reflective triangle farm implement signs; and they certainly were not part of their very first traditions, and will use battery operated flashlights, which their very first ancestors did not have, but balk at putting a battery operated flasher on their buggies to help protect their people while traveling on a modern paved road with lots of modern cars & trucks zipping by.
I have a great deal of respect for the Amish and their way of life. They work very hard every day to maintain their basic lifestyles. How many of us could survive under the same conditions...???
But...I think they need to carefully re-examine their stand about not allowing a simple flasher on their buggies.
I agree. It is VERY DIFFICULT to see the buggy until you are right on them sometimes. It is a safety issue for everyone. This got me thinking about honoring our mother and father. My father grew up during the depression and there are many things I was taught by him that would not apply today in "this time"...I don't feel as thought I dishonor him if I make decisions today that would not have been a situation for him when he was alive...I hope that makes sense. In this case the Amish man's father probably didn't have as many cars on the road for example.
@@LivingThatSimpleLife....Precisely. How far back do the Amish go and say it is 'here', at this year that we will begin to honor our fathers & mothers and will not do anything that they did not do?
What about using electricity, or any other 'modern' inventions that they now use...in however limited situations it may be, but electricity & other things, nonetheless? Isn't this 'dis-honoring' their first fathers & mothers? Like I previously said, what about those triangle reflective signs that were not in existence in the times of the first Amish?
Where do they draw the line in history and say..."At this point forward we will honor our fathers & mothers daily traditions and way of life..."?
I just hope that they see the wisdom that God gives them.." Wise as serpents, harmless as doves...", and do the wise thing about the buggy lights...for the safety of ALL of God's children.
@@marbleman52 Like i said it a way of life .I have two Amish communities buy me and there not the same one has lights on there buggies and the one does not . Its all rules they have to go buy. Each community has different rules.