DC WATT For starters, there are vastly more reliable sources than wikipedia out there. Secondly, I do research each fight before I do it. And again, Bane can only lift a max of 3 tons.
Never understood the battles between Bane and a Marvel bruiser. To me when I heard I was like really guys are you delusional or a Marvel fan that just want easy march ups.
Flash DEFINITELY wins,but Quicksilver has been upgraded(chasing AND catching a light beam traveling the earth)Cool. BANE IS "BROKEN"....EASILY...AS IS JOKER, he WON'T be laughing this time. Raven and the WITCH? TOO MANY big feats by the Witch and at least in what they normally do WANDA has the edge. Great stuff man.Wanda has also shown some physical skill against Mordred and Cable,so there is that.🙄😏
***** I didn't say "What Marvel character is faster/more powerful". I said "What Marvel character with super-speed is more PROMINENT." Quicksilver is the primary speedster of Marvel, meaning he is the most common speedster character, most frequently appearing, most commonly seen, most developed character. Most prominent. Not most powerful, but the main speedster of marvel.
Majestic comics Yes, but he's not been seen much in the modern era, and he died several years ago. I wouldn't consider him more prominent than Quicksilver.
Quicksilver vs Flash may be popular, but Flash vs anyone is nearly impossible to be fair. Flash is one of the most powerful characters among mortals. Hell, some immortals would have a tough fight against him. I think it was Wally West who said he could punch with the power of a white dwarf star so good luck there.
Scarlet Witch vs Raven I must disagree. If Scarlet Witch wasn't in her bat shit crazy state she would crush Raven with little effort. Scarlet Witch once crushed the Avengers all by herself and three little words give you an idea how powerful she is. "No more mutants"
***** I agree with the first three matches whole-heartedly, but as for Raven vs Scarlet Witch, I would say feats are more important than what it says in their powersets.
Sup Mayhem, just got some stuff to say 1) Flash can not move at the speed of light at will 2) Since when can GG lift 10 tons? He can't even lift a car. Bane is stronger than him 3) I don't think GG is smarter than Joker. Joker outthinks Bruce who is on a genius-level, Norman is close but not a genius
1.) It takes focus and concentration for him to do so, but he can. About the same amount of focus and concentration as it takes Quicksilver to run at his maximum. 2.) Norman Osborn as Green Goblin was enhanced by the Goblin Serum. It allowed him to match Spider-Man in terms of strength and durability. Bane is not stronger than Goblin. Maybe you are thinking of post-Green Goblin Norman Osborn, when he lost his Goblin powers. 3.) "Genius Level Intellect: Even before consuming the Goblin Formula, Norman was extremely smart and intelligent, was extremely skilled with mathematics and science, possessing an immense knowledge of chemistry and the side-effects of drugs on humans and animals. The Goblin Formula enhanced Osborn's mental capacities and creative talents. Aside from his physical advantages, the serum also greatly enhanced Norman's already highly above average intellect, making him a true genius capable of making progress in advanced areas of genetics, robotics, engineering, and applied chemistry that most professional scientists can scarcely comprehend." marvel.wikia.com/Norman_Osborn_(Earth-616)
You ever gonna do Juggernaut? Something like Juggernaut vs Captain Marvel(shazam). Or, Juggernaut vs Superman? Or, something like Juggernaut vs Mr. Majestic?
Dude, this was awesome! I would love to see more like this. Who the hell thought Bane could stand up to any of those guys? lol If I may, these are some requests/suggestions that I would like to see in a lightning round or a standard grudge match. I spend an unhealthy amount of time thinking about these things so it would be cool to know what you think. Maybe just in a comment since there are way to many for a vid. I'm especially curious to see who you would pick as victors in the Supes and Bats battles. Batwing (Fox or Zavimbe) vs The Prowler (616 not Ultimate) Superman vs Hyperion/Gladiator/Ikaris/Blue Marvel/Black Bolt Wonder Woman vs Wonder Man/Namor/Captain Britain Flash vs Makkari Red Tornado vs Vision Orion vs Hercules Ms Marvel (Carol) vs Starfire/Supergirl Black Widow vs Batwoman/Batgirl/Manhunter/Huntress Elektra vs Batwoman/Batgirl/Manhunter/Huntress Batman vs Daredevil/Prowler/Shang Chi/Iron Fist/Daken Watchers vs Guardians Ravager vs X-23 I could have kept going but I didn't want to push it (any more than I already have lol)
I'll go on record for some of the Batman/Superman fights since I don't think I'll end up making full episodes for some of them, but some I'm holding in reserve. While someone like Shang Chi might be able to take Batman in a pure 100% hand-to-hand fight (and even that is debatable), add in the gadgets/weapons and tricks of the trade that Bats knows, and I think he's the standout winner there. But all the tricks and fighting skills in the world won't save him from Daken who is just a beast. Anyone who can kill the Punisher can kill just about anyone (non-powered, of course.) I'd have to double-check, but I'm pretty sure Superman has shown far greater feats of strength, speed and invulnerability than Blue Marvel has. And Gladiator got whipped by the Hulk...not that that means that he would get him butt whipped by Superman, but it does show that even at a fully confident level, Gladiator is not unbeatable.
Actually a slight correction. Marvel tweaked its rating system. They now say the strength level per character is only comparative not literal. Meaning if say the hulk can lift 100 million tons and hes rated at 100 tons characters at 25, 50, 80 can lift that much multipled exponentially as well. Which makes sense since in dc/ marvel cross overs all the A1 supers of marvel were stated to only be slightly less powerful than their dc counterparts.
Whch means most A1strength marvel superheros are in the range of an average dc kryptonian exposed to the rays of a yellow sun which have been stated in dc database to be able to lift 100,000 tons. Of course i know that fluxuates because with them its not so much super strength per say, but a form of mental kinesis or will power ; ergo superman being able to 'lift' objects in the mega ton range.
I always thought that bane vs crossbones was a better match than venom or all the others. Also karate kid vs iron fist would be nice. Thanks for doing this video by the way. Most people would just waste a video doing something that people always suggest but isn't really a good match, and they just do it so people would stop suggesting it. This was a nice compromise
The weakest Venom could only lift about 11 tons (Brock's strength (700 lbs) plus the strength the symbiote acquired from Spidey), Quicksilver doesn't even come close to speedsters like Makkari of the Eternals or The Runner of the Elders of the Universe. Heh, you are SO right about Raven and SW.
Scarlet Witch's powers and feats exceeds Raven's. Another important factor is Scarlet Witch being a more popular character (the result of EVERY match up is due to a popularity contest). So Scarlet Witch wins due to her powers & feats being greater AND even if Raven were equal/stronger, Scarlet Witch would still win by popularity vote.
MrBracey100 Raven controls herself most times knowing if she loses it her father will come out. And there's no way scarlet witch is stronger than him so Scarlet witch can win on popularity but should Raven go for broke, they both lose.
Thank you so much for doing this! I've argued with people over the first three match-ups in this vid saying virtually the same things as you and it's just so great to see you come forward to say that you're not doing episodes for those characters because it's so blatantly unbalanced. Thanks again!
I was thinking maybe Quicksilver was close to Flash after his exposure to the terrigen mist of the Inhumans, but after thinking of how Flash can not only travel in time like the terrigen mists allow Quicksilver to do, Flash can actually syphon speed from other speedsters and actually other objects or beings I think. Since Flash has more control over the "speed force" he can probably syphon Quicksilver's speed, making himself faster and Quicksilver slower.
Really the most powerful thing in comics are the writes of the comics, if they wanted to they could make any character beat any character, heck they could make Daredevil KO Galactus if they really wanted to.
A mismatch (when excluding prep time) is Batman vs Spider-Man. Another one would be Elongated Man vs Mr. Fantastic. And a complete draw would be Death (Marvel) vs Nekron (DC), since they are both abstract entities of the same thing.
WELL spiderman can defeat batman because of his superhuman strenth,reflexes,intellect,super human speed, etc........ mainly he can defeat batman because of his spider sense with that spiderman can avoid every batman's gabjets
Bane is a normal person who has been taken over by a powerful drug. Juggernaut is a mutant abomination is a genetic mutation. Venom is a alien and Ben Gray is technically can be considered all three. Bane would stand no chance but killer Croc would. Oh and so would batman😁
Sean Brown Jr I don't remember KC being as strong as the Thing. Croc's strength level is between 5 - 10 tons. Thing's is around 90-100 tons. So actually, Waylon Jones doesn't really stand a chance against Ben Grimm. Croc vs Venom is the only one that makes at least the most sense, and even still, Venom has a higher strength level, being around 30 - 50 tons. So the closest match up is still in favor of Venom. Also, Killer Croc is just not smart at all. The DC Comics Database even says that one of his weaknesses is his lowered intellect. Even Juggs is smarter than him. He's only smart enough to follow instructions. That's it.
Thanks for this. I get tired of people suggesting these terrible match-ups as well. Flash v.s. Quicksilver in particular. The worst one I've seen has to be Wolverine v.s. Superman because "Wolverine is immortal and can't be killed and Superman is man of steel but adamantium stronger than steel" Or something similar to that. Just terrible.
Cade Mulrooney Venom's strength varied over the years, but as per the Marvel wikia: "While worn by Brock he was capable of lifting 70 tons". Carnage is stronger than Venom, capable of lifting around 80 tons. Toxin is 100+ tons.
I try not to trust the Marvel.com Wikia too much, as I have been burned in many debates using it on comicvine :) it turns out people can access it and change what they want at times, and Marvel Encyclopedias contradict the Marvel.com Wikia as well many times.
Do you favor the marvel world like most of everyone that do these battles? I mean why would you compare bane to people who you know wouldn't be a good fight next time pick someone that can actually match him plus he is a world class fighter and a tactile genius and if he can take down the bat (who can take anyone out) then he should have a better match up
I know it was ridiculous to pit Bane against any of the Marvel bruisers. That was the whole point. This video was made to address the matches that are suggested all the time. I've probably had Bane vs Juggernaut suggested to me over 50 times since I started doing these vids. And Quicksilver/Flash over a hundred times. I didn't make this video to slant towards Marvel. I made it to show all the people who keep suggesting these matchups just how unbalanced they are and why I wouldn't do a full and complete video for any of these matches.
I don't understand why people match Joker with Green Goblin. Such a fight is a major mismatch that it's not even funny. GG is strong enough to lift 10 tons and matches Spider-Man in strength. Joker isn't even half as strong as Batman. GG is also much faster, more agile, has enhanced durability and reflexes, etc. I'm sorry, but Joker stands no chance. To the people who actually think Joker wins: Why? Just why?
Leonard Pryor They have a lot in common. Psychopathic arch rivals who will do absolutely anything and kill anyone to beat the hero. The fight is still a blow out.
I think its more a comparison in minds I think a better way to put who would win if they both had a tons of resources and they were both going against each other or they were both trying to accomplish something around the lines of that I think is what people should match them up in...
Dawsey Chatom well no what happened was he couldn't lay a finger on ultron as he could think at a pixa second or 3,000 times light and then quick silver was shown it a panel to out run radio waves.
Electro vs Livewire Doomsday vs Juggernaut Thor vs Aquaman Talia Al Ghul/Catwoman vs Black widow Doctor Doom vs Static Steel vs Colossus And a couple of cosmic power battles;) Galactus vs Anti-monitor Superman Prime one million vs Phoenix force Death vs Nekron/The life Entity Please reply on which you would/wouldn't do! :)
I completely disagree with the Scarlet Witch vs Raven. SW would definitely win due to her a ability to manipulate anything and everything to include but not limited to time, energy, reality, probability, elemental etc... plus Raven casts her magic via verbal commands while SW just does it
How about Lex Luthor vs Norman Osborn. They are kinda similiar. Both of em are rich billionaires. Both of em are very manipulative. Both of them double as a villain.
You forgot the jokers apocalyptic weapons, one of these bombs, for eksample, kan blow up an entire city and they are just above pocket size. So with the jokers mighty insanity it is not unthinkable that he would go around with one on him blowing them both up. He is most likely to die from this, but he has survived ordeals of near equal force before, unknown how he did it might just be a mistake.
I saw a cool video on characters who are ridiculously more powerful than people think- I remember Ice Man is one of them (can cause an ice age) magneto (apparently he can get such a degree of finesse he's able to do more than just manipulate the earth's magnetic field). I thought You might be interested in exploring a list like that keep up the good work!
Armand Anwari Juggernaut would mop the floor with both of them at once. They are nowhere even close to Juggs. Not even that he would one-shot both of them.
Even though the Green Goblin would beat the Joker in a fight, the Joker is actually stronger than the average person. He's faster and more agile as well. He is even capable of fighting Batman for a short period of time.
How bout Bane vs Dare Devil''s King Pin? I know King Pin was super strong in the Spidey comics, but he seems to have gotten a lot weaker as a Dare Devil villain.
I think a better match up for the flash would be the Runner. He is a lot faster then any other marvel character and is an elder of the universe. While quick silver is fast the runner could easily beat him in a race. He has gone faster then light speeds. So I think he would be a much better opponent for the flash. This is just my opinion.
Raven is still discovering her abilities, and Scarlett Witch is still discovering her abilities. Potentially they both may become omega level' and beyond, in time, as their fathers are now.
infinite mass punch well should we accept laws of physics and general relativity it whould cause an equal and opposite reaction when struck oblitarating flash as well should we accept flash and any other caracter moves faster than light then they aquire no infinite mass
It's good that you finally adressed all these matchup issues people have been having in the comments. Confirm your own opinions so that other commenters don't have to argue.
I agree with most of this however I give Bane the benefit of a doubt when matched up against Venom. Bane is a genius and is every bit as smart and as capable as Batman. He would be able to expose Venom's weaknesses and use it against him for a win. Scarlet Witch is stronger than Raven and would beat her in a match. I also believe that Joker would win against Green Goblin due to being unpredictable and also being a more popular character. Its no more of a mismatch than Batman vs Superman is and Batman always seems to win. In the end, all outcomes for any match up becomes a popularity contest. Only the most popular character (regardless of abilities and feats) at the time of the match up will win.
MDTheACCUSER back, & I thought Joker venom could hypnotise people??? Couldn't that hypnotise GG, giving Joker(aka RedHood) A chance to use his gadgets on GG? And future suggestions are: Wonder Woman V.S Thor, Dino boy V.S Beast boy, and finally, Lockjaw V.S Krypto(Thanks for that suggestion dad!) You v.s Stan Lees, knowledge(Just kidding) MD out!
LOL! Who in the world thought Bane was a good match for Abomination or Juggernaut. Anyway, great video Mayhem. I really do enjoy these Grudge Matches, there always phenomenal. I really would like to see you do a grudge match of MARVEL's Thor vs Orion of DC's New Gods. I'm a huge fan of both characters. MARVEL's Hercules vs Big Barda would be great too.
lol Bane would get wrecked by all 4 of those guys. Haha @ people requesting that. Captain America would wreck that clown. Only thing I would correct is stating Juggernaut is stronger than Abomination. I question that. He's easily more durable, not sure if he's physically stronger.
People say that GG beats Joker easily. Never underestimate Joker, he is psychotic and unpredictable and has aces in his pockets. Am I only one who thinks that Joker actually wins this match?
Sorry, read comic books, Venom is not as the main lifters out there, 15 tons max. Flash wins vs. Quicksilver, Bane can't beat what you put up for him. He's Batman on steroids. So he can't beat the Thing and such.
I do read comics. And I read the official stats, as well. 70 tons. "While worn by Brock he was capable of lifting 70 tons in his regular size, this is not his true limit as his strength increases with his variable muscle mass." marvel.wikia.com/Venom_(Symbiote)_(Earth-616) Of course Bane can't beat any of them. And of course Quicksilver can't beat Flash. Did you miss the entire point of this video? It is to address the matches that people keep requesting over and over, but are not worth a full episode since they are no contests.
According to the Marvel Wikia, Venom, while on Eddie Brock, could lift as much as 70 tons. And it was even moreso on Mac Gargan, but then less on Flash Thompson. Thing is listed as being between 75 and 100 tons. So at max, under optimal conditions, its 100 tons.
This is a cool idea and a great addition!
@ Caleb Cole
Yes, Bane is only at the 3 tons level.
3 tons level? LOL..nope. Bane lifts more.
DC WATT Nope. He actually doesn't.
***** Go search on Wikipedia, so then i hope your comeback will be better then this one.
DC WATT For starters, there are vastly more reliable sources than wikipedia out there. Secondly, I do research each fight before I do it. And again, Bane can only lift a max of 3 tons.
***** Wrong. Once again, search the fucking Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics) HERE
Ok This one is kind of silly but how about Throg (Frog Thor) vs Krypto the Superdog
This was awesome man! Do more of these lightning rounds
Never understood the battles between Bane and a Marvel bruiser. To me when I heard I was like really guys are you delusional or a Marvel fan that just want easy march ups.
Flash DEFINITELY wins,but Quicksilver has been upgraded(chasing AND catching a light beam traveling the earth)Cool. BANE IS "BROKEN"....EASILY...AS IS JOKER, he WON'T be laughing this time. Raven and the WITCH? TOO MANY big feats by the Witch and at least in what they normally do WANDA has the edge. Great stuff man.Wanda has also shown some physical skill against Mordred and Cable,so there is that.🙄😏
Bane vs Luke Cage would be more on the level.
1:43 lol Deadpool is giving Wolverine bunny ears.
U should do more of these
FOESHOW
By the way Quicksilver is not the primary speedster in the marvel universe .
+Majestic comics What Marvel character with super-speed as their go-to power is more prominent than Quicksilver?
*****
I didn't say "What Marvel character is faster/more powerful". I said "What Marvel character with super-speed is more PROMINENT."
Quicksilver is the primary speedster of Marvel, meaning he is the most common speedster character, most frequently appearing, most commonly seen, most developed character. Most prominent. Not most powerful, but the main speedster of marvel.
+PerfectMayhem82 what about the whizzer isn't he a speedster in marvel.
Majestic comics Yes, but he's not been seen much in the modern era, and he died several years ago.
I wouldn't consider him more prominent than Quicksilver.
+PerfectMayhem82 true, but he was in a spider man web worriers episode.
Flash vs The Runner: the Runner is one of the Elders Of The Universe.
Quicksilver vs Flash may be popular, but Flash vs anyone is nearly impossible to be fair. Flash is one of the most powerful characters among mortals. Hell, some immortals would have a tough fight against him. I think it was Wally West who said he could punch with the power of a white dwarf star so good luck there.
Scarlet Witch vs Raven I must disagree. If Scarlet Witch wasn't in her bat shit crazy state she would crush Raven with little effort. Scarlet Witch once crushed the Avengers all by herself and three little words give you an idea how powerful she is. "No more mutants"
***** I agree with the first three matches whole-heartedly, but as for Raven vs Scarlet Witch, I would say feats are more important than what it says in their powersets.
+Disciple_Leo I don't mind at all.
And I would say Scarlet Witch personally.
Sup Mayhem, just got some stuff to say
1) Flash can not move at the speed of light at will
2) Since when can GG lift 10 tons? He can't even lift a car. Bane is stronger than him
3) I don't think GG is smarter than Joker. Joker outthinks Bruce who is on a genius-level, Norman is close but not a genius
1.) It takes focus and concentration for him to do so, but he can. About the same amount of focus and concentration as it takes Quicksilver to run at his maximum.
2.) Norman Osborn as Green Goblin was enhanced by the Goblin Serum. It allowed him to match Spider-Man in terms of strength and durability. Bane is not stronger than Goblin. Maybe you are thinking of post-Green Goblin Norman Osborn, when he lost his Goblin powers.
3.) "Genius Level Intellect: Even before consuming the Goblin Formula, Norman was extremely smart and intelligent, was extremely skilled with mathematics and science, possessing an immense knowledge of chemistry and the side-effects of drugs on humans and animals. The Goblin Formula enhanced Osborn's mental capacities and creative talents. Aside from his physical advantages, the serum also greatly enhanced Norman's already highly above average intellect, making him a true genius capable of making progress in advanced areas of genetics, robotics, engineering, and applied chemistry that most professional scientists can scarcely comprehend."
marvel.wikia.com/Norman_Osborn_(Earth-616)
***** All true. I forgot Norman was that smart
I Think GG Lifted Up To 8 Maybe 9 Tons Once? I Think...
You ever gonna do Juggernaut? Something like Juggernaut vs Captain Marvel(shazam). Or, Juggernaut vs Superman? Or, something like Juggernaut vs Mr. Majestic?
Dude, this was awesome! I would love to see more like this. Who the hell thought Bane could stand up to any of those guys? lol
If I may, these are some requests/suggestions that I would like to see in a lightning round or a standard grudge match. I spend an unhealthy amount of time thinking about these things so it would be cool to know what you think. Maybe just in a comment since there are way to many for a vid. I'm especially curious to see who you would pick as victors in the Supes and Bats battles.
Batwing (Fox or Zavimbe) vs The Prowler (616 not Ultimate)
Superman vs Hyperion/Gladiator/Ikaris/Blue Marvel/Black Bolt
Wonder Woman vs Wonder Man/Namor/Captain Britain
Flash vs Makkari
Red Tornado vs Vision
Orion vs Hercules
Ms Marvel (Carol) vs Starfire/Supergirl
Black Widow vs Batwoman/Batgirl/Manhunter/Huntress
Elektra vs Batwoman/Batgirl/Manhunter/Huntress
Batman vs Daredevil/Prowler/Shang Chi/Iron Fist/Daken
Watchers vs Guardians
Ravager vs X-23
I could have kept going but I didn't want to push it (any more than I already have lol)
I'll go on record for some of the Batman/Superman fights since I don't think I'll end up making full episodes for some of them, but some I'm holding in reserve.
While someone like Shang Chi might be able to take Batman in a pure 100% hand-to-hand fight (and even that is debatable), add in the gadgets/weapons and tricks of the trade that Bats knows, and I think he's the standout winner there. But all the tricks and fighting skills in the world won't save him from Daken who is just a beast. Anyone who can kill the Punisher can kill just about anyone (non-powered, of course.)
I'd have to double-check, but I'm pretty sure Superman has shown far greater feats of strength, speed and invulnerability than Blue Marvel has. And Gladiator got whipped by the Hulk...not that that means that he would get him butt whipped by Superman, but it does show that even at a fully confident level, Gladiator is not unbeatable.
Actually a slight correction. Marvel tweaked its rating system. They now say the strength level per character is only comparative not literal. Meaning if say the hulk can lift 100 million tons and hes rated at 100 tons characters at 25, 50, 80 can lift that much multipled exponentially as well. Which makes sense since in dc/ marvel cross overs all the A1 supers of marvel were stated to only be slightly less powerful than their dc counterparts.
Whch means most A1strength marvel superheros are in the range of an average dc kryptonian exposed to the rays of a yellow sun which have been stated in dc database to be able to lift 100,000 tons. Of course i know that fluxuates because with them its not so much super strength per say, but a form of mental kinesis or will power ; ergo superman being able to 'lift' objects in the mega ton range.
I always thought that bane vs crossbones was a better match than venom or all the others. Also karate kid vs iron fist would be nice. Thanks for doing this video by the way. Most people would just waste a video doing something that people always suggest but isn't really a good match, and they just do it so people would stop suggesting it. This was a nice compromise
The weakest Venom could only lift about 11 tons (Brock's strength (700 lbs) plus the strength the symbiote acquired from Spidey), Quicksilver doesn't even come close to speedsters like Makkari of the Eternals or The Runner of the Elders of the Universe. Heh, you are SO right about Raven and SW.
Scarlet Witch's powers and feats exceeds Raven's. Another important factor is Scarlet Witch being a more popular character (the result of EVERY match up is due to a popularity contest). So Scarlet Witch wins due to her powers & feats being greater AND even if Raven were equal/stronger, Scarlet Witch would still win by popularity vote.
I tend to agree, even when Raven is augmented by her father's demonic heritage Scarlet Witch has done far more than she ever has.
MrBracey100 Raven controls herself most times knowing if she loses it her father will come out.
And there's no way scarlet witch is stronger than him so Scarlet witch can win on popularity but should Raven go for broke, they both lose.
Ismael Jimoh I could agree with that.
Thank you so much for doing this! I've argued with people over the first three match-ups in this vid saying virtually the same things as you and it's just so great to see you come forward to say that you're not doing episodes for those characters because it's so blatantly unbalanced. Thanks again!
They definetly need to do Karate kid vs Iron Fist
Remember, Raven and Scarlett Witch are continuously evolving.
Juggernaut vs doomsday...
I was thinking maybe Quicksilver was close to Flash after his exposure to the terrigen mist of the Inhumans, but after thinking of how Flash can not only travel in time like the terrigen mists allow Quicksilver to do, Flash can actually syphon speed from other speedsters and actually other objects or beings I think. Since Flash has more control over the "speed force" he can probably syphon Quicksilver's speed, making himself faster and Quicksilver slower.
hey mayhem could you do james bond vs agent 47 or golgo 13 vs one of them? thanks
Wait, I just had a thought. Has the Green Goblin ever wielded the Goblin Force?
Bio busted armour guyver vs blue beetle!! This fight will be epic trust me!!!!!!!!!
Wolverine vs T-1000
Robocop vs Judge Dredd
Teresa of the faint smile vs the original Dante from devil may cry series
Black Lightning vs Electro.
Livewire vs Electro is better.
Why?
Really the most powerful thing in comics are the writes of the comics, if they wanted to they could make any character beat any character, heck they could make Daredevil KO Galactus if they really wanted to.
Lol so true I love DD but that would be the stupidest shit I would ever read if that really happens.
A mismatch (when excluding prep time) is Batman vs Spider-Man. Another one would be Elongated Man vs Mr. Fantastic. And a complete draw would be Death (Marvel) vs Nekron (DC), since they are both abstract entities of the same thing.
WELL spiderman can defeat batman because of his superhuman strenth,reflexes,intellect,super human speed, etc........
mainly he can defeat batman because of his spider sense with that spiderman can avoid every batman's gabjets
Bane VS. King Pin
Sorry about the disagreement.. this was on point
there's a speedster is marvel called the runner that would be a much better matchup for flash
Bane is a normal person who has been taken over by a powerful drug. Juggernaut is a mutant abomination is a genetic mutation. Venom is a alien and Ben Gray is technically can be considered all three. Bane would stand no chance but killer Croc would. Oh and so would batman😁
But Killer Croc is a jobber.
But he dose stand a chance against venom and thing not juggernaut only superman could be able to stop the juggernaut. And batman😁
Sean Brown Jr I don't remember KC being as strong as the Thing. Croc's strength level is between 5 - 10 tons. Thing's is around 90-100 tons. So actually, Waylon Jones doesn't really stand a chance against Ben Grimm.
Croc vs Venom is the only one that makes at least the most sense, and even still, Venom has a higher strength level, being around 30 - 50 tons. So the closest match up is still in favor of Venom.
Also, Killer Croc is just not smart at all. The DC Comics Database even says that one of his weaknesses is his lowered intellect. Even Juggs is smarter than him. He's only smart enough to follow instructions. That's it.
Juggernaut is not a mutant he gets his powers from a crystal
Spawn vs. Supes?
Punisher vs. Bats?
Stevie Ray Levin spawn wins and if prep time...batman wins or if no prep time...punisher wins
Thanks for this. I get tired of people suggesting these terrible match-ups as well. Flash v.s. Quicksilver in particular. The worst one I've seen has to be Wolverine v.s. Superman because "Wolverine is immortal and can't be killed and Superman is man of steel but adamantium stronger than steel" Or something similar to that. Just terrible.
Joker is not weaker than the average human.
Venom is at 50 tons? I thought he was only about 5 tons stronger than spider-man since he possessed a regular human.
It seems some of these characters have increased in power since my comics reading hayday
Eddie Venom was around 25 tons to 30 tons. Carnage around 50 tons. Toxin around 75 - 90 tons.
Cade Mulrooney
Venom's strength varied over the years, but as per the Marvel wikia:
"While worn by Brock he was capable of lifting 70 tons".
Carnage is stronger than Venom, capable of lifting around 80 tons.
Toxin is 100+ tons.
I try not to trust the Marvel.com Wikia too much, as I have been burned in many debates using it on comicvine :) it turns out people can access it and change what they want at times, and Marvel Encyclopedias contradict the Marvel.com Wikia as well many times.
My go to website is the Marvel.Wikia.com aka The Marvel Database.
Do you favor the marvel world like most of everyone that do these battles? I mean why would you compare bane to people who you know wouldn't be a good fight next time pick someone that can actually match him plus he is a world class fighter and a tactile genius and if he can take down the bat (who can take anyone out) then he should have a better match up
I know it was ridiculous to pit Bane against any of the Marvel bruisers. That was the whole point. This video was made to address the matches that are suggested all the time. I've probably had Bane vs Juggernaut suggested to me over 50 times since I started doing these vids. And Quicksilver/Flash over a hundred times. I didn't make this video to slant towards Marvel. I made it to show all the people who keep suggesting these matchups just how unbalanced they are and why I wouldn't do a full and complete video for any of these matches.
I get it it just hurts my lil heart ima DC fan lol if you can or if you already did a dr. Polaris vs magneto would be very cool thanks
I don't understand why people match Joker with Green Goblin. Such a fight is a major mismatch that it's not even funny. GG is strong enough to lift 10 tons and matches Spider-Man in strength. Joker isn't even half as strong as Batman. GG is also much faster, more agile, has enhanced durability and reflexes, etc. I'm sorry, but Joker stands no chance. To the people who actually think Joker wins: Why? Just why?
Because both are psychopaths
Immortalbeast70 That's pretty much the only thing they have in common. Everything else is massively in Green Goblin's favor.
Leonard Pryor They have a lot in common. Psychopathic arch rivals who will do absolutely anything and kill anyone to beat the hero. The fight is still a blow out.
I think its more a comparison in minds I think a better way to put who would win if they both had a tons of resources and they were both going against each other or they were both trying to accomplish something around the lines of that I think is what people should match them up in...
Michael Brown Green Goblin still stomps if that's the case. What exactly does the Joker have in his arsenal that would put sown Norman?
The darkness vs venom!
considering the Green goblin is kind like an evil Tony Stark I think that joker would not stand a chance against him
Thor vs black adam
bane vs sabretooth?
Flash is way faster than quick silver but quick silver has out ran electro magnetic radio waves and they move at light speed so give him some credit.
Did Quicksilver have an upgrade in speed/power when he did this?
Dawsey Chatom well no what happened was he couldn't lay a finger on ultron as he could think at a pixa second or 3,000 times light and then quick silver was shown it a panel to out run radio waves.
Electro vs Livewire
Doomsday vs Juggernaut
Thor vs Aquaman
Talia Al Ghul/Catwoman vs Black widow
Doctor Doom vs Static
Steel vs Colossus
And a couple of cosmic power battles;)
Galactus vs Anti-monitor
Superman Prime one million vs Phoenix force
Death vs Nekron/The life Entity
Please reply on which you would/wouldn't do! :)
Bane vs Venom, Juggernaut etc.. Doesn't anyone even think before spewing their requests? Use common sense people.
I completely disagree with the Scarlet Witch vs Raven. SW would definitely win due to her a ability to manipulate anything and everything to include but not limited to time, energy, reality, probability, elemental etc... plus Raven casts her magic via verbal commands while SW just does it
Bane vs Captain America would probably be a much better matchup
How about Lex Luthor vs Norman Osborn. They are kinda similiar. Both of em are rich billionaires. Both of em are very manipulative. Both of them double as a villain.
You forgot the jokers apocalyptic weapons, one of these bombs, for eksample, kan blow up an entire city and they are just above pocket size. So with the jokers mighty insanity it is not unthinkable that he would go around with one on him blowing them both up. He is most likely to die from this, but he has survived ordeals of near equal force before, unknown how he did it might just be a mistake.
I saw a cool video on characters who are ridiculously more powerful than people think- I remember Ice Man is one of them (can cause an ice age) magneto (apparently he can get such a degree of finesse he's able to do more than just manipulate the earth's magnetic field). I thought You might be interested in exploring a list like that keep up the good work!
So for the first 3 mins or so............why havent you done Hulk vs Juggs? Its an age old argument.
As a general rule, I don't do matches between characters who exist in the same universe.
ahhhhh ok
+PerfectMayhem82 can you do juggernault vs solomon grundy or bane or something like that
Armand Anwari Juggernaut would mop the floor with both of them at once. They are nowhere even close to Juggs. Not even that he would one-shot both of them.
Even though the Green Goblin would beat the Joker in a fight, the Joker is actually stronger than the average person. He's faster and more agile as well. He is even capable of fighting Batman for a short period of time.
How bout Bane vs Dare Devil''s King Pin? I know King Pin was super strong in the Spidey comics, but he seems to have gotten a lot weaker as a Dare Devil villain.
I think a better match up for the flash would be the Runner. He is a lot faster then any other marvel character and is an elder of the universe. While quick silver is fast the runner could easily beat him in a race. He has gone faster then light speeds. So I think he would be a much better opponent for the flash. This is just my opinion.
Raven is still discovering her abilities, and Scarlett Witch is still discovering her abilities. Potentially they both may become omega level' and beyond, in time, as their fathers are now.
Great vid, I'm sure there will be plenty more opportunities for lightning rounds as people are constantly spewing out wild match-up suggestions :)
R U SERIOUS PEOPLE THOUGHT BANE CAN TAKE ON THE BRUISERS!! HAHAHA! damn people know ur facts.
infinite mass punch well should we accept laws of physics and general relativity it whould cause an equal and opposite reaction when struck oblitarating flash as well should we accept flash and any other caracter moves faster than light then they aquire no infinite mass
It's good that you finally adressed all these matchup issues people have been having in the comments. Confirm your own opinions so that other commenters don't have to argue.
Black Adam vs Thor!! Please
Please?? No?
I agree with most of this however I give Bane the benefit of a doubt when matched up against Venom. Bane is a genius and is every bit as smart and as capable as Batman. He would be able to expose Venom's weaknesses and use it against him for a win. Scarlet Witch is stronger than Raven and would beat her in a match. I also believe that Joker would win against Green Goblin due to being unpredictable and also being a more popular character. Its no more of a mismatch than Batman vs Superman is and Batman always seems to win. In the end, all outcomes for any match up becomes a popularity contest. Only the most popular character (regardless of abilities and feats) at the time of the match up will win.
you should do more of these.
@ perfectmayhem82 please try Flash against the Runner, Makkari and Speed demon
Red Hood vs The Punisher, King Pin vs Black Skull, New Gods vs Inhumans, Gladiator vs Captain Marvel (Shazam), and
Ok, how about Iron-man verse Batman? I like these videos you make, you seem to look at every point of view of every person.
The heck ,Joker has stood his ground against Batman Not saying he would win but still do your research
MDTheACCUSER back, & I thought Joker venom could hypnotise people??? Couldn't that hypnotise GG, giving Joker(aka RedHood) A chance to use his gadgets on GG? And future suggestions are: Wonder Woman V.S Thor, Dino boy V.S Beast boy, and finally, Lockjaw V.S Krypto(Thanks for that suggestion dad!) You v.s Stan Lees, knowledge(Just kidding) MD out!
Hmmm let see.. someone who can defeat a god... or someone who is a god... I wonder what would happen -.-
Battlestar Galactica vs star wars
That's not even a fight.
why are you guys so mad most of the time I disagree with PM but this time I agree with him I don't think bane can lift more than 3 tons
Dude please that to make more grudge match.
quicksilver is 3rd in the mu.makkari is first and the runner is second lol
Scarlet witch and raven both have limited control over reality and all kinds of magic
Raven can stop time in the whole universe and if some1 else does that it wont effect her if it doesn't stop tritons realm
I have idea Bane vs ( Someone who is not ragdolling him with use nothing but fingers . ) .
I like how this video is simply dedicated to all those shitty matches that people sometimes suggest.
So Lightning Round is kind of a special episode
I would say Joker is physically stronger than the average joe
Wait a minute green goblin is more powerful than bane?!!!!!
You forgot Flash has gone God speed when he was running from death himself
The venom drug also increases bane's speed and there are more than one type of venom
I think taskmaster vs Deathstroke would make a great grudge match!
Joker is acually is physically superior then a normal human
Bane would lose badly. This fight or fights is unfair :-)
Both the thing and abomination are FAR above 100 ton class
Agree on all of these. But how about Bane vs. Kingpin?
Solid Snake vs. Batman! (I vote Snake)
LOL! Who in the world thought Bane was a good match for Abomination or Juggernaut. Anyway, great video Mayhem. I really do enjoy these Grudge Matches, there always phenomenal. I really would like to see you do a grudge match of MARVEL's Thor vs Orion of DC's New Gods. I'm a huge fan of both characters. MARVEL's Hercules vs Big Barda would be great too.
Imagine if it was bane vs hulk
sub sonic = under mach 1. mach 4 is super sonic.....
lol Bane would get wrecked by all 4 of those guys. Haha @ people requesting that. Captain America would wreck that clown.
Only thing I would correct is stating Juggernaut is stronger than Abomination. I question that. He's easily more durable, not sure if he's physically stronger.
Freeloader 420 green goblin is a metahuman
Juggernaut vs citizen steel
Cable vs Magog
People say that GG beats Joker easily. Never underestimate Joker, he is psychotic and unpredictable and has aces in his pockets. Am I only one who thinks that Joker actually wins this match?
Well I respect your opinion but in my opinion gg would win.
No, gg wins. But joker is actually a good fighter and is stronger than the average person.
Sorry, read comic books, Venom is not as the main lifters out there, 15 tons max. Flash wins vs. Quicksilver, Bane can't beat what you put up for him. He's Batman on steroids. So he can't beat the Thing and such.
I do read comics. And I read the official stats, as well. 70 tons.
"While worn by Brock he was capable of lifting 70 tons in his regular size, this is not his true limit as his strength increases with his variable muscle mass."
marvel.wikia.com/Venom_(Symbiote)_(Earth-616)
Of course Bane can't beat any of them. And of course Quicksilver can't beat Flash. Did you miss the entire point of this video? It is to address the matches that people keep requesting over and over, but are not worth a full episode since they are no contests.
Norman Osborn vs Alexander Luthor
Can you do world breaker hulk vs gold superman
Arsenal vs Wintersoldier might be a good one, too.
I agree with MrBracey100, Venom's most he can lift is 15 tons, 5 tons more than Spider-Man. Sry Thing is 85 tons. Bane is Batman on steroids.
According to the Marvel Wikia, Venom, while on Eddie Brock, could lift as much as 70 tons. And it was even moreso on Mac Gargan, but then less on Flash Thompson.
Thing is listed as being between 75 and 100 tons. So at max, under optimal conditions, its 100 tons.