“Rush to judgement” is what crossed my mind. Part of the culture. Labeling is arrogance, which is thinking you understand stuff you don’t really understand.
EMDR worked well for me in that I’m not so easily triggered now. Then again, I avoid lots of people and situations that could feel dangerous to me. Understanding pain and trauma is key to survival. The world is a dangerous place, knowledge helps me survive it and understand it better, that way , I can do my own work.
What happens in an EMDR? Does it include an electricution or something? It sounded scary. I am going for a trauma therapy soon and I do not know yet what treatments my current psychiatrist will recommend. I am just preparing myself for what to expect as the changes and unknown is giving me anxieties.
If you need healing, its your to own. Others can help but its yours alone. If they dont help, move on. Dont complain, move on. Its really difficult but its the only course of action. I speak from experience and empathy. Thankyou for this talk 🙏🤍🔥
Dr. Van Der Kolk is amazing. Brilliant. I learned of his research through Dr. Anne Dietrich in Vancouver - fabulous psychologist. Sadly she passed away a year ago. She appeared at many trauma conferences with Dr. Van Der Kolk. Wise man. Controversial in some ways.
I love The Strategy of coming right in against labels. He starts there, in his discussion. America insists on labels. Upon conformity America is a stupid, quick-fix culture. This is despicable. America is based on conformity. Sorry to have grown up a boomer, but there are catastrophic errors inherent in a culture based on conformity. We moved on not having learned that very relevant lesson, the lesson that we don't live in that world anymore. Go, Mr. Dr. Van Der Koch.
yes! diagnosing whole people using symptom clusters is ridiculous. "healing" a part of the body (with very potent drugs) without ever even looking at it is equally weird
I have several chronic illnesses -- MCAS, hEDS, dysautonomia, and others -- that are often related because the symptoms intertwine. You go to a regular doctor (even a specialist) and all they see is their specialty or what's "normal" and what's not. They don't look for interconnectedness, they don't look for underlying syndromes, they just handle the heart or the gut or the brain or whatever. So you find specialists who do know these syndromes and diagnose them and treat them -- but even then NO ONE is talking about the trauma underlying the "underlying cause". My dysautonomia doc says it's the connective tissue disorder (hEDS) that causes "all the things". But based on what little I do know about trauma and the body, it's more likely it's both the hEDS (genetic, born with it) combined with my childhood of a mentally ill brother causing chaos in our home, an overprotective mom with OCD, me being bullied in elementary school, an emotionally abusive boyfriend, gaslighting in-laws and doctors, and later medical trauma. It's ALL intertwined, the trauma isn't something you can ignore. But AFAIK even the best doctors who know about the "rare" diseases I listed don't spend much time on the trauma aspect. They just throw pills at you and that's it. It's so frustrating. I have a lovely therapist, but I need someone as knowledgeable as Dr. Van Der Kolk because we're just not getting anywhere and both my mental and physical health are worse than ever.
I have searched for healing and help for 39 years. All I get is meds tossed at me. I'm told to quit focusing on my past abuse. Like that's something you can just turn off. Gee I wish I had known it was that easy to get over cptsd. Mental help in the usa sucks.
Have you tried psychedelics (psilocybin, DMT)? I’ve never tried any, but they say they work wonders (like having years of solid therapy in a single experience). At the very least, they seem to make you lose the fear of death and what lies beyond.
It really does suck. What worked for me was 1. Family constellations 2. Acupuncture 3. Finally and most importantly, reading Alice Miller. Trust me, if you hate hearing that you need to “get over” your past abuse, you will never ever hear that from her! In fact it’s the opposite, she is so validating of how real and damaging child abuse is, she truly makes you feel understood and gives the subject the full attention that most people are too scared and avoidant to do. She is SO real, SO truthful, SO courageous. She unlocked a deep, holistic healing experience in me. For the price of a few paperbacks, you can get probably the highest-quality therapy you could get anywhere, and without leaving your house.
You need to search out a trauma therapist...someone trained in dealing w/trauma & EMDR training. You can go it alone & rehashing doesn't work. Your brain has been wired differently due to trauma. EMDR helps to "rewire" the circuitry & settles the brain down because trauma response has lodged in the wrong part of the brain.
I feel you. I had many invalidating professionals, that just triggered trauma. Along with therapy, having good and safe people in your life is not to be overlooked, too. Likewise tossing the ones that keep on hurting you.
I wonder what this doctor/speaker would suggest to the medical schools or medical associations could do to instigate these concepts into fruition for practitioners. Medical PCP and other practitioners should get up-to-date on this instead of knee-jerk-diagnosis-prescriptions of drugs that dull the brain and create a future of dementia and brain damaged populations.
I found for trauma there are multiple modalities where the core of each has Feel the Feelings. Do not suppress, ignore and distract. Embrace the pain as it is given to you to deal with it, it is just a signal there is a reason behind it which you must look, this is what signal is telling. Don't shoot the messenger, then the messenger (feeling) will be relieved. 1. TRE (Trauma Release Exercise) 2. Somatic Experiencing 3. Somatic Practicing 4. FOCUSING 5. VIPASANA 6. Embodying 7. Eckhart-shining light of consciousness 8. Shadow integration 9. Completion exercise 10. Compassionate Inquiry 11. Tapping 12. WuWei wisdom Acceptance 13. EMDR 14. Yoga 15. Inner Child healing 16. Gratitude Journal 17. CBT 18. Talk Therapy 19. IFST 20. Nervous System regulation 21. Conscious Breathing exercise 22. Instinctual Trauma Response Model (ITR) 23. NEST (Neuro Effective Stabilization Training) 24. Hakomi Method 25. Experiential psychotherapy 26. Emotion Focused therapy EFT
@@lightitup33333 yep, even when medications aren't working and there is verifiable information with reasons not to use them as they have been prescribed. I had a dr. tell me that depression is the core of most illnesses. Addiction and alcoholism are forms of depression 😳He went on to tell me that codeine cough syrup is not at all effective, gave me nicotine patches that were meant for someone weighing 70 lbs more than me, and told me it's a good thing if I double up on my antidepressants while trying to stop smoking. Two days later I was experiencing vertigo and still had a very bad cough. I did not increase my antidepressants, I decided I needed to quit them before cigarettes. I went back to the clinic and saw a dr. who has no qualities related to ducks. He gave me nicotine patches that weren't toxic to my system, congratulated me on my decision about the antidepressants because they are only really effective for about six months 🥺, gave me a large bottle of codeine cough syrup, and told me to increase my Xanax after I was finished with the codeine to help me quit smoking. Common sense but rare these days. The second dr announced his retirement but he hasn't taken it five years later. I think his conscience wont let him leave living beings with the "providers" the clinic allows to see patients. Their best, and most often used line: "You can no longer be prescribed pain killers for your chronic condition after you became addicted to them, it would be irresponsible and unethical to give an addict opiates". "But Dr, I took them as you directed and ify dependency is based on a CHRONIC condition, its not an addiction." Now the patient is drug seeking, authorities must be notified and no ER visits for 30 days🥸🤡🥸
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Bessel is a global treasure the importance of being seen and known is critical
"You are not a list of symptoms." So true.
“Rush to judgement” is what crossed my mind. Part of the culture. Labeling is arrogance, which is thinking you understand stuff you don’t really understand.
EMDR worked well for me in that I’m not so easily triggered now. Then again, I avoid lots of people and situations that could feel dangerous to me. Understanding pain and trauma is key to survival. The world is a dangerous place, knowledge helps me survive it and understand it better, that way , I can do my own work.
I agree with you absolutely!
You sound very intelligent and like you have a handle on things. I wish you the best.
What happens in an EMDR? Does it include an electricution or something? It sounded scary. I am going for a trauma therapy soon and I do not know yet what treatments my current psychiatrist will recommend. I am just preparing myself for what to expect as the changes and unknown is giving me anxieties.
If you need healing, its your to own. Others can help but its yours alone. If they dont help, move on. Dont complain, move on. Its really difficult but its the only course of action. I speak from experience and empathy. Thankyou for this talk 🙏🤍🔥
what an incredible man
I love his theories
he's so tune to his own self.👏👏👏👏
Dr. Van Der Kolk is amazing. Brilliant. I learned of his research through Dr. Anne Dietrich in Vancouver - fabulous psychologist. Sadly she passed away a year ago. She appeared at many trauma conferences with Dr. Van Der Kolk. Wise man. Controversial in some ways.
Lovely stuff. Thank you for this.
I love The Strategy of coming right in against labels. He starts there, in his discussion. America insists on labels. Upon conformity
America is a stupid, quick-fix culture. This is despicable. America is based on conformity. Sorry to have grown up a boomer, but there are catastrophic errors inherent in a culture based on conformity. We moved on not having learned that very relevant lesson, the lesson that we don't live in that world anymore.
Go, Mr. Dr. Van Der Koch.
yes! diagnosing whole people using symptom clusters is ridiculous. "healing" a part of the body (with very potent drugs) without ever even looking at it is equally weird
Well-said. 🎯
It’s a very poignant and sober insight to today’s social culture.
I have several chronic illnesses -- MCAS, hEDS, dysautonomia, and others -- that are often related because the symptoms intertwine. You go to a regular doctor (even a specialist) and all they see is their specialty or what's "normal" and what's not. They don't look for interconnectedness, they don't look for underlying syndromes, they just handle the heart or the gut or the brain or whatever.
So you find specialists who do know these syndromes and diagnose them and treat them -- but even then NO ONE is talking about the trauma underlying the "underlying cause". My dysautonomia doc says it's the connective tissue disorder (hEDS) that causes "all the things". But based on what little I do know about trauma and the body, it's more likely it's both the hEDS (genetic, born with it) combined with my childhood of a mentally ill brother causing chaos in our home, an overprotective mom with OCD, me being bullied in elementary school, an emotionally abusive boyfriend, gaslighting in-laws and doctors, and later medical trauma. It's ALL intertwined, the trauma isn't something you can ignore. But AFAIK even the best doctors who know about the "rare" diseases I listed don't spend much time on the trauma aspect. They just throw pills at you and that's it. It's so frustrating. I have a lovely therapist, but I need someone as knowledgeable as Dr. Van Der Kolk because we're just not getting anywhere and both my mental and physical health are worse than ever.
I have searched for healing and help for 39 years. All I get is meds tossed at me. I'm told to quit focusing on my past abuse. Like that's something you can just turn off. Gee I wish I had known it was that easy to get over cptsd. Mental help in the usa sucks.
Have you tried psychedelics (psilocybin, DMT)? I’ve never tried any, but they say they work wonders (like having years of solid therapy in a single experience). At the very least, they seem to make you lose the fear of death and what lies beyond.
@alejandro_vallejo_calvo i haven't yet but it's something I am going to talk to the doctor about.
It really does suck. What worked for me was 1. Family constellations 2. Acupuncture 3. Finally and most importantly, reading Alice Miller. Trust me, if you hate hearing that you need to “get over” your past abuse, you will never ever hear that from her! In fact it’s the opposite, she is so validating of how real and damaging child abuse is, she truly makes you feel understood and gives the subject the full attention that most people are too scared and avoidant to do. She is SO real, SO truthful, SO courageous. She unlocked a deep, holistic healing experience in me. For the price of a few paperbacks, you can get probably the highest-quality therapy you could get anywhere, and without leaving your house.
You need to search out a trauma therapist...someone trained in dealing w/trauma & EMDR training. You can go it alone & rehashing doesn't work. Your brain has been wired differently due to trauma. EMDR helps to "rewire" the circuitry & settles the brain down because trauma response has lodged in the wrong part of the brain.
I feel you. I had many invalidating professionals, that just triggered trauma. Along with therapy, having good and safe people in your life is not to be overlooked, too. Likewise tossing the ones that keep on hurting you.
symptom clusters have got to go
Hallelujah to that! 😂
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Healing time and mushroom time feel the same ❤
MOAR
jaaaaaa😂❤
Dr., we have lost culture. To answer your question of how to heal, go look there.
there are many parts of my culture I am glad to have lost
I wonder what this doctor/speaker would suggest to the medical schools or medical associations could do to instigate these concepts into fruition for practitioners. Medical PCP and other practitioners should get up-to-date on this instead of knee-jerk-diagnosis-prescriptions of drugs that dull the brain and create a future of dementia and brain damaged populations.
What's an Imperiasist(?) or Imperialist? I search online I only get Imperialist.
Empiricist. A scientist who measures data results empirically. Hope that helps 👍 its a bit different to dictionary but sort of the same.
@@fatherburning358 Yeah, that made sense now. Thank you! 😀
🌟🗽🫶
Give your heart to God
This does work.
magical thinking is a problem, not a solution
Has elements of spiritual bypassing @@HomeFromFarAway
Which god? Of course it’s always “their god” and not the “ other false god”
This doesn’t mean anything to a lot of people
I found for trauma there are multiple modalities where the core of each has Feel the Feelings. Do not suppress, ignore and distract. Embrace the pain as it is given to you to deal with it, it is just a signal there is a reason behind it which you must look, this is what signal is telling. Don't shoot the messenger, then the messenger (feeling) will be relieved.
1. TRE (Trauma Release Exercise)
2. Somatic Experiencing
3. Somatic Practicing
4. FOCUSING
5. VIPASANA
6. Embodying
7. Eckhart-shining light of consciousness
8. Shadow integration
9. Completion exercise
10. Compassionate Inquiry
11. Tapping
12. WuWei wisdom Acceptance
13. EMDR
14. Yoga
15. Inner Child healing
16. Gratitude Journal
17. CBT
18. Talk Therapy
19. IFST
20. Nervous System regulation
21. Conscious Breathing exercise
22. Instinctual Trauma Response Model (ITR)
23. NEST (Neuro Effective Stabilization Training)
24. Hakomi Method
25. Experiential psychotherapy
26. Emotion Focused therapy EFT
All these modalities has feel the feelings at core to heal urself.
Thank you Dr. Bessel. Hipefully American Psychology can catch up with you✨🪄😘😘😘
Doubtful. It is so messed up. Some will read his book but then go back to the pharmaceutical no-such-thing-as-a-cure agenda.
No chance
@@lightitup33333 yep, even when medications aren't working and there is verifiable information with reasons not to use them as they have been prescribed. I had a dr. tell me that depression is the core of most illnesses. Addiction and alcoholism are forms of depression 😳He went on to tell me that codeine cough syrup is not at all effective, gave me nicotine patches that were meant for someone weighing 70 lbs more than me, and told me it's a good thing if I double up on my antidepressants while trying to stop smoking. Two days later I was experiencing vertigo and still had a very bad cough. I did not increase my antidepressants, I decided I needed to quit them before cigarettes. I went back to the clinic and saw a dr. who has no qualities related to ducks. He gave me nicotine patches that weren't toxic to my system, congratulated me on my decision about the antidepressants because they are only really effective for about six months 🥺, gave me a large bottle of codeine cough syrup, and told me to increase my Xanax after I was finished with the codeine to help me quit smoking.
Common sense but rare these days. The second dr announced his retirement but he hasn't taken it five years later. I think his conscience wont let him leave living beings with the "providers" the clinic allows to see patients.
Their best, and most often used line: "You can no longer be prescribed pain killers for your chronic condition after you became addicted to them, it would be irresponsible and unethical to give an addict opiates". "But Dr, I took them as you directed and ify dependency is based on a CHRONIC condition, its not an addiction." Now the patient is drug seeking, authorities must be notified and no ER visits for 30 days🥸🤡🥸
Combination of treatments...not one size fits all & healing takes time.