had a international 674 long long time ago , not too sorry to see the back of it , traded it in for a fiat 80-90 , the 674 went to the breakers yard after sitting in the dealers yard for 2 years
Our CX100 has weak hydraulics. Where would you look first? Can putting a bigger ram on the 3-point linkage solve our problem? I heard the ram doesn't do the real lifting, its just a helper
hello I have 4220 houses and I have a problem with it I do not get enough oil pressure at danfos and because of this I do not like neither 4x4 nor powershiftu
Hi, Great video, should be more informed videos as this one. Do you give suggestions ? We have a 674 Inter that has a transmission light come on after working 3/4 hour. let it sit to cool down for 30 minutes , then its agoer again. Would the oil be getting too hot ? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, we are in Australia, Thanks.
+Deborah Flint Thanks for the compliment, that makes the effort worthwhile! :) Does your tractor have the standard or hydro transmission? I expect the warning light is for oil temp, but the concern is why would it heat up that fast. There is an oil cooler in front of the rad, make sure both are clean for best cooling. Thanks, for watching!
How did the pump damage the teeth on the gear. I have to change hydraulic pump on 885 just want to make sure I don’t do the same thing. You’re videos are great. It’s rare that you find someone like yourself that’s willing to help. Again thanks.
Could you tell me on my 1987 885 it didn’t have a front end loader and one was added. Is the hydraulic pump that came with the tractor adequate to supply the front end loader. I think the pump is going bad because you have to race up the motor real high to get all of the hydraulic stuff to work at all. The front end loader,the steering and raising or lowering the box blade in the back. Was just wondering if the added front end loader might be making the pump go bad. Thanks for your help.
@@mitchellradecker8582 It does sound like your pump is getting tired, like anything else they do wear out. The internal pump in an 885 is fine to run a front loader attachment.
I have a case ih 895. Lift and power steering work great. I have blown a few steering seals on cylinder in front, it seems as though its under pressure even on opposite side that would be expected. PTO nor 4wd will engage. Would the likely culprit be in the MCV.
HI Jared, that sounds like a flow control or priority valve, either in the MCV or the little block on top of the lift cover under the seat. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Checked pressure at port...nothing. Took mcv and pump off. The regulator valve behind part that engages pto valve seemed to be stuck at least i had to push it out with pick. What that be culprit if it was seated all the way down? There was also a plastic piece under the forward most gear with black paper like stuff on it. It seems to be dieting the fluid also.
Hi Jared, it's possible that could be the culprit, I am not familiar with the internals of the MCV valve, but I would think that piece should move freely.
Una consulta amigo, donde lleva la bomba hidráulica el case 4210, y porque al levantar una rastra los hidraulicos no suben hasta arriba, que podría ser?
If the arms aren't lifting all the way under load it could be a weak hydraulic pump, damaged lift cylinder or a weak relief valve. You will need to do some testing to figure out what is the cause. Thanks for watching!
Poor old Case ih 42 series. Not the best of tractors, tho it did over come a few problems that 95 series had. Park brake was a big improvement and the transmission range gears where synchronize and hydraulic pump made to turn faster. Down side was a input shaft inside the trans would share under load. PTO pack burning out, clutch drag problems, synchro not set up right from the factory inside trans. transfer pump failures, the list goes on.
Really enjoyed the video. I have a case 685 and the remote and the 3PH hydraulics work “sometimes”. When I put something heavy on the 3PH or via remote it can lift it for a while but then just stops working. It will start working again randomly.. The tractor did sit for years..Do you think it is the pump or something else. I will need to take it to the dealer just want to have an idea of the issue before bringing it to them. Thanks
If the hydraulics start working again after the oil has cooled down, then yes it's the hydraulic pump, if it's random I would look at the priority valve or flow control valve. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Awesome thanks so much....I'm a young farmer so these videos and suggestions really help! I put discs on the remote when I first got it..and that when I think things could have caused the issues... could be the flow control value as you suggest... Any way to know one way or another - pump or flow valve? thanks again
You would have to hook up some pressure gauges in select spots to diagnose where the problem lies, but the valve body under the seat is pretty easy to get to and check out. Look for any scars or burrs etc. I started my life as a farmer and ended up in tractor salvage rather by accident. LOL I understand the challenges and commitment you have undertaken, thank you for feeding us, God bless!
Thanks for the quick reply. It is helpful and refreshing!! I am just scared to take it to a dealer .. its an old tractor with a good amount of life left... I just don't want to drop too much into it if it only lasts me a year or two! thanks again really appreciate the input.
on return from danfos I get 10 bars and 4x4 all the bag and powershift everything and does not go when I change powershift.u did not change I checked the pump and bag 180 bars at 1500 rpm .. could be a valve blocked ?thanks
hello, I have a case IH 895, recently I changed the hydraulic pump, but still does not lift the hydraulic, lift very slowly and with very little force, what will be the problem and what would be your possible solution? I appreciate your help
It could be a bad relief valve or a bad lift cylinder inside the lift cover, start with the relief valve, it's cheaper and easier to get to. Good luck and thanks for watching.
my 2nd comment in a few minutes why did hydraulic pump fail .. I used to work at IH main dealer here in UK and the hydraulic pump rarely give problems even after high hours
hello I have 4220 houses and I have a problem with it I do not get enough oil pressure at danfos and because of this I do not like neither 4x4 nor powershiftu
Hey i have a international 844s and i am putting the dt 268 engine out of a case 4240 into the 844s i have a problem whith the hydraulic pump the old pump of the original d268 engine that runs of the timing gears does not fit the dt268 because it has a different front timing cover just wondering would this hydraulic pump in this video fit on the side plate of the international 844s cheers hamish
Thanks for your reply i didnt think that it would work i will just have to swap the timeing cover over and that should work just got to sort out the oil cooler lines cheers Hamish
The hydraulic pump wore out and the owner replaced but jammed the gears while doing so, then he brought it to me to fix. The repair was done at my shop, I don't have an indoor work area, I could build a shop but then I would have to work that much more to make it pay. :) Thanks for watching!
Hello! I have a 4210 case international, i recently change the hydraulic filter but now the stirring doesn't work, and the PTO doesn't work, I don't know why the hydraulic doesn't work?hope you can help me with the answer.
If you haven't, check your fluid level, pull the filter and double check that everything is in place correctly. It could also be unrelated to the filter change, does the 3PH still work?
Hi I’ve got 584 the pickup hitch won’t release unless I pull the spool lever it then will lift high enough to release the catch what could be wrong thanks
Thanks I’ve now been told it’s the unloader valve do you know where this is ? Who is the old boy that sometimes helps you you are both legends. Great videos very informative
@@chrisastley7923 I'm not sure exactly where the unloader valve is but if you check at www.mycnhistore.com/us/en/caseih you should be able to find out.
Question, does the case 595 have a transfer pump? If yes how do you get to it Mine gets sluggish after 30 minutes running and have to increase rpms? Thanks
The 595 uses the same pump as in this video, no primary or charge pump. Losing hydraulic power as the oil warms is a sign that the hydraulic pump is wearing out. Thanks for watching!
Thank you, is there any little trick or things to watch for when replacing or is it as straight forward as the video? Our local workshop wants 18 hours labour to carry out a change out I thought it was a bit steep
@@jamesstevenson1208 Should be as straight forward as the video, 18 hours seems a little steep to me but maybe they are hoping to pleasantly surprise you with lower bill when the job is done.
Oh I doubt it my Last bill was 6 hours to change a starter motor, they've told me they want to go into the gearbox in pursuit of a oil transfer pump also 👍 gotta love mechanics also weres the 4x4 solenoid located ive checked fuse but it's locked in 4x4 thanks
Hello, i need help please. I have a CASE IH 4210 Cab 4x4. I am trying to add hydraulic fluid. I can not find the cap to add in fluid. i see a red dip stick located at the back of the tractor near the hydraulic cables I use to attach to my canon. any help is appreciated it. the dipstick shows very low fluid, so i am assuming this is hydraulic oil.
@@CanadianRedneck15 thank you for the quick reply. I see a metal pipe cap right in the middle of the cable connection in the back, would that be it? Its i think 1 inch in size
Thanks, your videos show more than anyone else,
I am glad you are enjoying the videos, thanks for watching!
had a international 674 long long time ago , not too sorry to see the back of it , traded it in for a fiat 80-90 , the 674 went to the breakers yard after sitting in the dealers yard for 2 years
I have never worked on a 4210 but it looks to be the same as an 885 xl or similar. The parts look similar anyway.
+Bundy Bears Shed Good eye BB, yes this is a very similar tractor, 2 generations newer but most of the mechanicals are the same. Thanks for watching!
Our CX100 has weak hydraulics. Where would you look first? Can putting a bigger ram on the 3-point linkage solve our problem? I heard the ram doesn't do the real lifting, its just a helper
If you can, get someone to do a pressure test, but I would suspect the hydraulic pump. Thanks for watching!
hello I have 4220 houses and I have a problem with it I do not get enough oil pressure at danfos and because of this I do not like neither 4x4 nor powershiftu
Hi, Great video, should be more informed videos as this one. Do you give suggestions ? We have a 674 Inter that has a transmission light come on after working 3/4 hour. let it sit to cool down for 30 minutes , then its agoer again. Would the oil be getting too hot ? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, we are in Australia, Thanks.
+Deborah Flint Thanks for the compliment, that makes the effort worthwhile! :) Does your tractor have the standard or hydro transmission? I expect the warning light is for oil temp, but the concern is why would it heat up that fast. There is an oil cooler in front of the rad, make sure both are clean for best cooling. Thanks, for watching!
do like our garage man did when we had the same problem , .......take out the bulb from the dash ,,,, problem solved !!!!!!!!!!
How did the pump damage the teeth on the gear. I have to change hydraulic pump on 885 just want to make sure I don’t do the same thing. You’re videos are great. It’s rare that you find someone like yourself that’s willing to help. Again thanks.
The owner had picked up a used pump with the wrong gear on it so it damaged the drive gear as well.
Thanks for watching!
Could you tell me on my 1987 885 it didn’t have a front end loader and one was added. Is the hydraulic pump that came with the tractor adequate to supply the front end loader. I think the pump is going bad because you have to race up the motor real high to get all of the hydraulic stuff to work at all. The front end loader,the steering and raising or lowering the box blade in the back. Was just wondering if the added front end loader might be making the pump go bad. Thanks for your help.
@@mitchellradecker8582 It does sound like your pump is getting tired, like anything else they do wear out. The internal pump in an 885 is fine to run a front loader attachment.
I have a case ih 895. Lift and power steering work great. I have blown a few steering seals on cylinder in front, it seems as though its under pressure even on opposite side that would be expected. PTO nor 4wd will engage. Would the likely culprit be in the MCV.
HI Jared, that sounds like a flow control or priority valve, either in the MCV or the little block on top of the lift cover under the seat. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Checked pressure at port...nothing. Took mcv and pump off. The regulator valve behind part that engages pto valve seemed to be stuck at least i had to push it out with pick. What that be culprit if it was seated all the way down? There was also a plastic piece under the forward most gear with black paper like stuff on it. It seems to be dieting the fluid also.
Hi Jared, it's possible that could be the culprit, I am not familiar with the internals of the MCV valve, but I would think that piece should move freely.
Great vid,, I've a 5150,,getting a bit slow lifting, is it the same pump, break down,, would really appreciate your advice, thank you. 👍👍
The 5150 is a different series of tractors so would have a different hydraulic pump and I'm not sure where it would mount, sorry. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for advice. 👍👍
Una consulta amigo, donde lleva la bomba hidráulica el case 4210, y porque al levantar una rastra los hidraulicos no suben hasta arriba, que podría ser?
If the arms aren't lifting all the way under load it could be a weak hydraulic pump, damaged lift cylinder or a weak relief valve. You will need to do some testing to figure out what is the cause.
Thanks for watching!
Poor old Case ih 42 series. Not the best of tractors, tho it did over come a few problems that 95 series had. Park brake was a big improvement and the transmission range gears where synchronize and hydraulic pump made to turn faster. Down side was a input shaft inside the trans would share under load. PTO pack burning out, clutch drag problems, synchro not set up right from the factory inside trans. transfer pump failures, the list goes on.
I was not aware of those problems, but I guess I haven't had that much to do with them either. Thanks for the information and thanks for watching!
Really enjoyed the video. I have a case 685 and the remote and the 3PH hydraulics work “sometimes”. When I put something heavy on the 3PH or via remote it can lift it for a while but then just stops working. It will start working again randomly.. The tractor did sit for years..Do you think it is the pump or something else. I will need to take it to the dealer just want to have an idea of the issue before bringing it to them.
Thanks
If the hydraulics start working again after the oil has cooled down, then yes it's the hydraulic pump, if it's random I would look at the priority valve or flow control valve. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Awesome thanks so much....I'm a young farmer so these videos and suggestions really help! I put discs on the remote when I first got it..and that when I think things could have caused the issues... could be the flow control value as you suggest...
Any way to know one way or another - pump or flow valve?
thanks again
You would have to hook up some pressure gauges in select spots to diagnose where the problem lies, but the valve body under the seat is pretty easy to get to and check out. Look for any scars or burrs etc.
I started my life as a farmer and ended up in tractor salvage rather by accident. LOL I understand the challenges and commitment you have undertaken, thank you for feeding us, God bless!
Thanks for the quick reply. It is helpful and refreshing!! I am just scared to take it to a dealer .. its an old tractor with a good amount of life left... I just don't want to drop too much into it if it only lasts me a year or two!
thanks again really appreciate the input.
on return from danfos I get 10 bars and 4x4 all the bag and powershift everything and does not go when I change powershift.u did not change I checked the pump and bag 180 bars at 1500 rpm .. could be a valve blocked ?thanks
Sorry, I can't help you with that. Thanks for watching!
hello, I have a case IH 895, recently I changed the hydraulic pump, but still does not lift the hydraulic, lift very slowly and with very little force, what will be the problem and what would be your possible solution?
I appreciate your help
It could be a bad relief valve or a bad lift cylinder inside the lift cover, start with the relief valve, it's cheaper and easier to get to. Good luck and thanks for watching.
my 2nd comment in a few minutes why did hydraulic pump fail .. I used to work at IH main dealer here in UK and the hydraulic pump rarely give problems even after high hours
The hydraulic pump is a regular gear pump which. in my experience. tend to wear out over time, I sell a fair amount of them. Thanks for watching.
hello I have 4220 houses and I have a problem with it I do not get enough oil pressure at danfos and because of this I do not like neither 4x4 nor powershiftu
Hey i have a international 844s and i am putting the dt 268 engine out of a case 4240 into the 844s i have a problem whith the hydraulic pump the old pump of the original d268 engine that runs of the timing gears does not fit the dt268 because it has a different front timing cover just wondering would this hydraulic pump in this video fit on the side plate of the international 844s cheers hamish
I don't believe the internal pump will work with the 844, you could change out the front engine plates on the 4240 engine though. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your reply i didnt think that it would work i will just have to swap the timeing cover over and that should work just got to sort out the oil cooler lines cheers Hamish
Hey nice video. We have a case international 5230 4x4 do you have any videos on how to replace the hydraulic pump?
Is it similar to this one?
Thanks
A 5230 is a different series, I don't have any videos on them, sorry.
Thanks for watching!
What caused the problem to start with? Looks like they would give you a place to work with a roof and concrete floor
The hydraulic pump wore out and the owner replaced but jammed the gears while doing so, then he brought it to me to fix. The repair was done at my shop, I don't have an indoor work area, I could build a shop but then I would have to work that much more to make it pay. :) Thanks for watching!
how do you manage in winter ??
Hello Dave, I have a question about a 3230 case ih hydraulic pump issue, could I talk to u over the phone?
Thanks,
My contact info is on my website www.chowntractorparts.com
Thanks for watching!
Hello! I have a 4210 case international, i recently change the hydraulic filter but now the stirring doesn't work, and the PTO doesn't work, I don't know why the hydraulic doesn't work?hope you can help me with the answer.
If you haven't, check your fluid level, pull the filter and double check that everything is in place correctly. It could also be unrelated to the filter change, does the 3PH still work?
@@CanadianRedneck15 ok, thank you for your time. I will do it.
Hi I’ve got 584 the pickup hitch won’t release unless I pull the spool lever it then will lift high enough to release the catch what could be wrong thanks
There is some valve there causing you trouble but I don't know how to narrow it down from there. Thanks for watching!
Thanks I’ve now been told it’s the unloader valve do you know where this is ? Who is the old boy that sometimes helps you you are both legends. Great videos very informative
@@chrisastley7923 I'm not sure exactly where the unloader valve is but if you check at www.mycnhistore.com/us/en/caseih you should be able to find out.
Question, does the case 595 have a transfer pump? If yes how do you get to it Mine gets sluggish after 30 minutes running and have to increase rpms? Thanks
The 595 uses the same pump as in this video, no primary or charge pump. Losing hydraulic power as the oil warms is a sign that the hydraulic pump is wearing out.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, is there any little trick or things to watch for when replacing or is it as straight forward as the video? Our local workshop wants 18 hours labour to carry out a change out I thought it was a bit steep
@@jamesstevenson1208 Should be as straight forward as the video, 18 hours seems a little steep to me but maybe they are hoping to pleasantly surprise you with lower bill when the job is done.
Oh I doubt it my Last bill was 6 hours to change a starter motor, they've told me they want to go into the gearbox in pursuit of a oil transfer pump also 👍 gotta love mechanics also weres the 4x4 solenoid located ive checked fuse but it's locked in 4x4 thanks
@@jamesstevenson1208 I believe the solenoid is in the transfer box.
I'm looking for an obitrol for case 4210 and I need the catalog number
So go to www.mycnhstore.com/us/en/caseih and look it up. Thanks for watching!
how many control welvet 399850R2
If you are looking for a 399850R1 control valve email sales@chowntractorparts.com Thanks for watching!
Hello, i need help please. I have a CASE IH 4210 Cab 4x4. I am trying to add hydraulic fluid. I can not find the cap to add in fluid. i see a red dip stick located at the back of the tractor near the hydraulic cables I use to attach to my canon. any help is appreciated it. the dipstick shows very low fluid, so i am assuming this is hydraulic oil.
There should be a pipe plug or pipe cap at the back on top. Hydraulic and transmission are the same oil. Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 thank you for the quick reply. I see a metal pipe cap right in the middle of the cable connection in the back, would that be it? Its i think 1 inch in size
@@hossfarran6327 I was thinking it would be more like 1 1/2" or so just to the right of middle.
mam international 884 , bez gazu nie chce nic podnosić :-(
Sorry, I don't understand, I only read English.
Im from Poland , I have case international 884 and my tractor dont have any power on hydraulic , only if I put gas max can up something
That sounds like a worn out hydraulic pump.
I think so
The pump in a 884 is the same place as in this video.
Terrible tractor
I always considered them a pretty good tractor, just the next newer version of the 84,85, 95 series. Thanks for watching!