Thanks for the great content. I just picked up my Tenere yesterday. Beautiful bike! I was kind of disappointed though with the suspension off-road performance. Very harsh and unforgiving. I only weigh a hundred and seventy-five pounds without gear. I'm an expert Rider. But could not get comfortable. Is this why you are redoing your your suspension? Sort of a Bittersweet first day. I tried a number of different clicker settings. Sag is pretty close to where it should be. I think I'm the target weight for the bikes set up.
My stock stuff was awful when it was new, terrible especially on the choppy terrain. It was about 1000km before it broke-in and started to move freely. I've purchased several new bikes but never had one that the suspension changed so much in the first 1000km. It will free up and start to feel MUCH better than it currently does.
@@CamelADV thanks very much for that info. Yes to be frank, my Kawasaki Versys suspension works better off road then the Tenere. It was a hard pill to swallow. I'll take your word for it. Im actually thinking about selling the bike because the suspension was so bad. I only have a hundred and sixty miles on it. Going to sleep on it for a week and think about it.
This is fun and the KYB SSS is the best production fork out there but I keep wondering if the stock forks (Showa ) off your AT would have been a good idea... T7 is lighter and 45 mm over the Yamys 43's. Thanks Cory I'm enjoying the hell out of this and I know full well the trials and tribulations of modifying vehicles; but for those of us who like doing this sort of thing it's just so much fun.
The AT forks are very old school/low tech forks (the same cartridges were used on the '89-90 CR500R). I would never swap them onto anything. The stock T7 forks exceed the performance of the AT units. Swapping them would be a net loss.
@@CamelADV Just a thought to bad. I put the Ohlin cartridges in my AT they definitely helped couldn't afford the full Ohlin forks or the SSS that you did.
Those triple clamps are so gorgeous. Just wondering, did you do any sort of fatigue analysis on the design? Not that I doubt their strength, it's just that stuff is interesting :)
It was 0.009" difference, likely too big for heat and freeze. If I was in a real bind, I may have tried it but I had to got to the machine shop for the axel threads anyway. It was pretty easy to skim the steering stem and get it in spec.
I was just wondering why you opted to make a new steering stem instead of reusing the stock one. Did you need to alter the shape to work with the new triples?
If we sell the kit, we’ll have to install the stem before shipping to customers as most will not have access to a hydraulic press to install the stem. I didn’t need it for my bike but since we were getting parts made anyway, it seemed like a good time to get a test stem made.
Some pieces are a hair big and some a hair small. If they were all tight, perhaps anodizing would be to blame. The average anodizing thickness is ~0.5 thou so barely measurable.
@@CamelADV You are right, anodizing has little affect as it more or less fills the pours in the material surface rather than lay on top. Although, its always good practice to put a technical note for finishing tolerances..especially on tight/precision fits. Not as worried about press/interference fits. Especially using 7071.
Engineers can only do so much within the limitations of budget and large-scale manufacturing. No doubt the Yamaha engineers could build an absolute banger if the controllers let them.
I gotta be honest, i love your videos, and i love them more when shit doesnt work and you MAKE it work :D
Good work...really enjoyed watching your efforts. It's going to be a good project...Cheers, Steve
It is disappointing the Desert 100 was cancelled.....maybe next year. Great videos!
Disappointing indeed.
So the T700 used the same triple clamp bolt as the new forks and triple clamp ?
Thanks for the great content. I just picked up my Tenere yesterday. Beautiful bike! I was kind of disappointed though with the suspension off-road performance. Very harsh and unforgiving. I only weigh a hundred and seventy-five pounds without gear. I'm an expert Rider. But could not get comfortable. Is this why you are redoing your your suspension? Sort of a Bittersweet first day. I tried a number of different clicker settings. Sag is pretty close to where it should be. I think I'm the target weight for the bikes set up.
My stock stuff was awful when it was new, terrible especially on the choppy terrain. It was about 1000km before it broke-in and started to move freely. I've purchased several new bikes but never had one that the suspension changed so much in the first 1000km. It will free up and start to feel MUCH better than it currently does.
@@CamelADV thanks very much for that info. Yes to be frank, my Kawasaki Versys suspension works better off road then the Tenere. It was a hard pill to swallow. I'll take your word for it. Im actually thinking about selling the bike because the suspension was so bad. I only have a hundred and sixty miles on it. Going to sleep on it for a week and think about it.
This is fun and the KYB SSS is the best production fork out there but I keep wondering if the stock forks (Showa ) off your AT would have been a good idea... T7 is lighter and 45 mm over the Yamys 43's. Thanks Cory I'm enjoying the hell out of this and I know full well the trials and tribulations of modifying vehicles; but for those of us who like doing this sort of thing it's just so much fun.
The AT forks are very old school/low tech forks (the same cartridges were used on the '89-90 CR500R). I would never swap them onto anything. The stock T7 forks exceed the performance of the AT units. Swapping them would be a net loss.
@@CamelADV Just a thought to bad. I put the Ohlin cartridges in my AT they definitely helped couldn't afford the full Ohlin forks or the SSS that you did.
I'm sure the Ohlins cartridges will be a huge improvement!
Those triple clamps are so gorgeous. Just wondering, did you do any sort of fatigue analysis on the design? Not that I doubt their strength, it's just that stuff is interesting :)
What about freezing one of the parts and heating up the other prior to assembly?
The trials and tribulations.
Invest in a micrometer and a boremic set :) nice video 😁
For your head tube did you try putting the tube in the freezer and lower clamp in the oven? Might get it in without too much pressure in the press
It was 0.009" difference, likely too big for heat and freeze. If I was in a real bind, I may have tried it but I had to got to the machine shop for the axel threads anyway. It was pretty easy to skim the steering stem and get it in spec.
I was just wondering why you opted to make a new steering stem instead of reusing the stock one. Did you need to alter the shape to work with the new triples?
If we sell the kit, we’ll have to install the stem before shipping to customers as most will not have access to a hydraulic press to install the stem. I didn’t need it for my bike but since we were getting parts made anyway, it seemed like a good time to get a test stem made.
Is it the thickness of the Anodising?
Some pieces are a hair big and some a hair small. If they were all tight, perhaps anodizing would be to blame. The average anodizing thickness is ~0.5 thou so barely measurable.
@@CamelADV You are right, anodizing has little affect as it more or less fills the pours in the material surface rather than lay on top. Although, its always good practice to put a technical note for finishing tolerances..especially on tight/precision fits. Not as worried about press/interference fits. Especially using 7071.
Japanese engineers cannot be improved:):)
Cheers!
Engineers can only do so much within the limitations of budget and large-scale manufacturing. No doubt the Yamaha engineers could build an absolute banger if the controllers let them.
@@HardwareG33k I agree
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