@@starmoon_2139 Its available in private match if you just wanna see what it looks like. We'll probably have to wait at least a month before we see it in normal matches
U asked and u shall Recreceive that Leland grapple kill with hands u didn't have grip on u won without it on soo congratulations bro ur just that damn good great video middi love to see it
I’m not even gonna fight hands. I play Connie and with a reasonable amount of points into toughness I have 41 strength and Leland got killed and probably had higher than 41 strength when suffocating grip wasn’t even up
They should have changed the way you want to do a close encounter and attack from behind, different button or some other way because now a lot of players lose close encounters just because they wanted to attack from behind and Hands or Johnny turned around at the last moment 🙈
I had 46 strength, half health n done for. Its based on health n strength the build like it should have been from the start. No more grapplemania now, the old way was not healthy
This grappling needs to be changed somehow because a Leeland losing at FULL HEALTH simply shouldn't be possible 😭 And Hands, the strongest killer in the game having the highest grapple and a lowered stun duration is certainly a choice..........
This game has finally gotten to a point where both sides equally need good teamwork to be successful. Solos plays will rarely work on victim side now. Time for victim players to actually work as a team. Leland is no longer worth having high proficiency with. Max strength is a must to be successful in using Leland for what he's designed to do.
You still need to press fast because keep in mind that the faster you tap the more likely you are to hit the timing between button presses within shorter/smaller delay unless your timing is synced exactly with the button recovery rate cap but it is very tricky to nail that
They did this update without testing. Victims literally can’t do anything anymore. I was never a grappled unless I was protecting as Leland…aka my job but family cried so much about grappling now u can’t do even play the game
@@Pikaru-c4ubecause of the fact any victim was able to grapple and win despite their build before this update. Grapples are not meant to be free stuns you can use whenever, they are a meant to be a last resort only if you have no other available options.
Yeah I'm not playing anymore. Having the Endurence Bug for a month is one thing. But not being able to fix a bug they already had in the past for two months is too ridiculous for me to handle. But hey they can still perfectly make Skins for money 🤑 Also Hands being able to kill the strongest Victim with full health in a close encounter is just garbage.
Facts I’m a new victim player and in the span of 2 months I got tired of the game is too killer sided now I can’t mess up cause close encounters is Allways a guaranteed death good I didn’t spend a cent in this game and bought it for 15 bucks
You tap as fast as you see it lighting up on the screen, a good rule of thumb is say the full word “ONE” as fast as you can, that’s about how fast you can tap now, like back when the game came out
@@netax2226 yeah man, I struggle to win against him with Leland at max strength n grappler but tbh it's fair tho. If U want to grapple with Connie at all u have to build into grapples but still don't grapple mainly hands or johnny.
have you ever even tried playing family?? like what are you on about. And since when was johnny OP??? most people believe him to be one of the weaker characters.
@@glideninja yeah boy he melt you in 3 hits. learn to play because litteraly is the strongest character. i never see a lobby without jonnhy. He litteraly 3 tap you or max 4 tap you and you're dead. Fair? he has a kill rate higher than bubba. Be serious
Devs said in a reply on reddit, your supposed to time the presses with the flashing of the prompt on the screen, dont know why they didnt put it in the grapple rework post.
They aren't very good at explaining anything. Like nowhere was it mentioned the tapping needed was now slower. Its not even a bad change either. But why not simply say that? Or maybe even showcase it in that livestream that everyone was clowning for being a dumpster fire?
@@juniorfanti3005 That's only one part that's trash, stamina still broke, can't play new map, still no actual content for the main mode other than dumb skins with no features we've been asking for, I'm 99, I play for xp not wins or losses and I am getting nothing for my dedication to the game
@@jarydjarjarsfasha2998 well if you’re complaining about all that other stuff then yeah those are all valid points I’m 99 as well but at least the main game has new players and victims are forced to change their approach now with is a bit fresh for the game. Stamina being bugged and not being able to grapple is a bit crappy
When I play family I love the grapples and when I play victim grappling is useless😂 I’ve been backstabbing family instead whenever QM puts me in as Victim
Ana doesn't have No Sell, so most likely she increased her STR. And yeah, victim endurance is still an a**, only works on the regeneration part but not for dashing.
So I have seen a few comments saying "grapples are meant to be an last resort". Which is fine until you realize, Last resort is you are most likely low health or low stamina. When your in this situation, grappling is NOT a good way as a last resort. You are more likely to fail on low health. Im not a person who does grapple often or barely at all. Now, I definitely will not even try. This update is a good start but I hope it is not the final one. If this stays, No victim will be able to survive a close encounter and Family wins all the time. At this point, Door slams are better. It cannot be changed based on strength but intelligence. I love TCM, I love playing both sides but this is too much family sided.
Grappling isn’t and shouldn’t be a victim sided thing, before the update killers would be grappled over and over again constantly and couldn’t do anything about it, you couldn’t barely win against people that have low strength. Now grappling is something that’s dangerous to do like it’s supposed to be and your not supposed to be able to win a grapple against these typically higher savagery family members unless you are specifically built for it. Ana and Leland can win grapples against all the killers if they build themselves for it but if you don’t. Here is an example the Leland in this video has a minimum the exact same grapple strength as hands. The only thing to blame for his loss is himself
I swear the strength attribute says how quickly and efficiently you win a grapple this is known of those i dont hate it but i definitely dont love it they shouldve just give the family the grapple boost
@@Pikaru-c4u maybe victims shouldn’t have abused grapples then?? Like way to exploit grappling to the point of obnoxiousness, it’s such a boring way to play, find other alternatives.
@@Pikaru-c4u just becoz u can't grapple Johnny or hands? U can still win without abusing grapples like victims don't understand that do they? If ur dumb enough to grapple hands n not learn from then that's a you problem bro. yous so much cried about the old grapple system that they changed it for you n gave a lazy reason for it
The update is great, I just think it needs to be slightly adjusted. I’m struggling sometimes as max strength max health Leland main 😭 But hey no more shitty grapple spamming!! it finally feels nice playing family
@@Pikaru-c4u basically. Leland needs grappler to win it faster since the encounter last longer. Without it the killers were able to knock off all of my no sells and almost killed me. But teamwork would be key. One close encounters while the other back stabs
Gun better do something to incentivize people to play victim. Right now family and victim are about the same strength but family’s characters are a lot more fun. Now take grapples out (and yes I say out because I just watched a full health Leland lose a grapple). Keep nerfing victim with a 600 person player base and you will never be able to get into a game. So they either need some kind of fun element for victim or come out with a fun victim or this game will be RIP in 6 months
I like the new grappling but the game is completely destroyed for victim rn and the doors are still sometimes bugged and endurance is fixed but only for regen dashing is still bugged
All the victim players finna be butt hurt just because it doesn't make sense for all the victim players to fight a strong tall and big guy. Im talking about connie and danny. Its only for johnny and hands its mostly towards hands. I mean they are strong guys you cant be salty about that just dont grapple them because gettig your ass beaten by a girl with low strength and your hands or johnny dont make any sense.
I’ve been running 40 plus strength builds and am still losing to grapples at full health. Am I supposed to bring the grapple perks too in order to stand a chance? I’ve resorted to Virginia back stabs but she’s behind a paywall, that’s fucked up TCM
@@AJLikesGamesAlot because there’s no excuse. Losing to a hands & Johnny is both realistic and fair. Considering you can gap or crawl space away from them. Plus, wells all over the map. Learn to play the victim vs playing victim to bully.
Build in to it, not every single victim should win grapple this is way better plus the Devs have said close encounters are a last resort you to turn to not the first
@@DanielWilson-d1uyeah but as a last resort, you’re health will be low and you’ll die anyway. If Leland’s base strength matches hands strength for grapples, then max strength Leland should still have a better chance of winning the grapple
is it fair killing sonny at full health? ahahaha this game is a joke. litterally. he should be stronger based on devs stats. i wonder how think you family sided but litteraly middi you show how all family mains think. you want 1 insta kill or 3 tap kill if he try to normal run escape. 2:56
And know here they come the victims that everygame they play leland and ana with full grapling builds tbagging and making fun of you now ,this is tooo family sided” stop f crying and play the game and if you dont like it uninstall lol
I like how your actually able to see the grappling animations now vrs grappling being won in like half a second
for anyone that doesn't know, the new map variant is currently disabled due to some issue with the rain shading, apparently
*sigh* didn't even get to play it before it got sent to the shadow realm 🥲
@@starmoon_2139 Its available in private match if you just wanna see what it looks like. We'll probably have to wait at least a month before we see it in normal matches
@@Stephalump It looks shiny and weird like chrome paint
@@nirfilusthere’s also a new gameplay feature in it that’s sorta bugged
Middi always asks what’s going on you lot , but I ask how is Middi doing on this glorious day?
We care about middi 🥺
Working on comic con stuff, hows you
@@Catfishplaysagreed
@@OkMiddi ‘twas chilling playing a bit of Wii sports and smash bros for some nostalgia
@@OkMiddi going to mcm?
I’m loving the suspenders on Hands!!! ❤️
Man, the lighting on the last kill was SO clean
That last kill with the big show and Leland was a scene from a movie
They might as well add the instant close encounter kill back because most victims aren’t gonna survive the grapple
So you rather punish every since victim/character instead of allowing the people who want to make grapple specific builds the freedom to do that?
@@AJLikesGamesAlotmy 50 Leland still lost to a cook. Family cry’s and now the two strongest killers just stand at gen. The grapple is too long
@@Pikaru-c4u thats definitely just a skill issue. And theres more escape routes then their are Family members for that very reason.
@@aaronm4253 it's not based on speed, they slowed the bottom pressing down
@@DanielWilson-d1uthen what’s the point of the button pressing?
U asked and u shall Recreceive that Leland grapple kill with hands u didn't have grip on u won without it on soo congratulations bro ur just that damn good great video middi love to see it
I’m not even gonna fight hands. I play Connie and with a reasonable amount of points into toughness I have 41 strength and Leland got killed and probably had higher than 41 strength when suffocating grip wasn’t even up
It’s breaking the game. Now hands and jhonny can just camp harder than before. Of course they wouldn’t play test it
They should have changed the way you want to do a close encounter and attack from behind, different button or some other way because now a lot of players lose close encounters just because they wanted to attack from behind and Hands or Johnny turned around at the last moment 🙈
I had 46 strength, half health n done for. Its based on health n strength the build like it should have been from the start.
No more grapplemania now, the old way was not healthy
@@paigewwe7177 I do agree with that. It should be a different button prompt for back stab.
@@paigewwe7177 I do agree with that. It should be a different button prompt for back stab.
This grappling needs to be changed somehow because a Leeland losing at FULL HEALTH simply shouldn't be possible 😭 And Hands, the strongest killer in the game having the highest grapple and a lowered stun duration is certainly a choice..........
Should be bubba tbh
18:57 new cooks must learn.. if you stand in the door, the door will stand on you.
Hannie and Johnds, the Gripple Kings
Nipple kings more like
This game has finally gotten to a point where both sides equally need good teamwork to be successful. Solos plays will rarely work on victim side now. Time for victim players to actually work as a team. Leland is no longer worth having high proficiency with. Max strength is a must to be successful in using Leland for what he's designed to do.
I was getting grabbed, slapped and ear pulled all morning. Good luck you lots
Bro your the goat Texas
You still need to press fast because keep in mind that the faster you tap the more likely you are to hit the timing between button presses within shorter/smaller delay unless your timing is synced exactly with the button recovery rate cap but it is very tricky to nail that
Alright, Its genuinely time. We need Hands to be nerfed💀💀
They did this update without testing. Victims literally can’t do anything anymore. I was never a grappled unless I was protecting as Leland…aka my job but family cried so much about grappling now u can’t do even play the game
They’re still buffing him🤦🏿
@@Pikaru-c4ubecause of the fact any victim was able to grapple and win despite their build before this update. Grapples are not meant to be free stuns you can use whenever, they are a meant to be a last resort only if you have no other available options.
Middi, Ana doesn't have no sell anymore.
I'm living in the past
The new Big Show outfit is cool.
I saw a breakdown saying the dashing is still broken for endurance, so half fixed 🤕
Something is wierd about it. Like stamina is taking forever to come back
Also just so yall know, pressing the grapple button with the yellow flash increases your winning chances, very helpful for victim
Yeah I'm not playing anymore. Having the Endurence Bug for a month is one thing. But not being able to fix a bug they already had in the past for two months is too ridiculous for me to handle. But hey they can still perfectly make Skins for money 🤑
Also Hands being able to kill the strongest Victim with full health in a close encounter is just garbage.
Facts I’m a new victim player and in the span of 2 months I got tired of the game is too killer sided now I can’t mess up cause close encounters is Allways a guaranteed death good I didn’t spend a cent in this game and bought it for 15 bucks
🤣
@@Jay-xo6ck you know its a good change when victim mains are crying about it. 😆
@@AJLikesGamesAlot I love it lol
@@AJLikesGamesAlotagreed
When im hands not even leland grapple me
You tap as fast as you see it lighting up on the screen, a good rule of thumb is say the full word “ONE” as fast as you can, that’s about how fast you can tap now, like back when the game came out
Now you can enjoy a good cuppa while grappling dude 🤟
The grappling is like how fast you could tap on consoles before the Nancy update
I will be needing Hands to have the same cosmetics as Johnny in order for me to come back to this game I fear 😔
Ah yes, now victim should think twice about spamming the grapple to win
So hands with the grandpa perk is op 💀🙏
He’s even more op And they cried about Danny
@@Pikaru-c4u bro release Danny was way more broken then this 😂😂😂😂😂 did this update upset? Can't use Connie anymore to win grapples?
With or without the perk hands is good at close encounters
@@DanielWilson-d1u does that mean connie will never be able to win grapple with hands?
@@netax2226 yeah man, I struggle to win against him with Leland at max strength n grappler but tbh it's fair tho.
If U want to grapple with Connie at all u have to build into grapples but still don't grapple mainly hands or johnny.
So, the two most OP characters, are even MORE OP? 🤣 this game is so family sided. The fun has been taken away. ‼️💯
have you ever even tried playing family?? like what are you on about. And since when was johnny OP??? most people believe him to be one of the weaker characters.
@@glideninja yeah boy he melt you in 3 hits. learn to play because litteraly is the strongest character. i never see a lobby without jonnhy. He litteraly 3 tap you or max 4 tap you and you're dead. Fair? he has a kill rate higher than bubba. Be serious
Devs said in a reply on reddit, your supposed to time the presses with the flashing of the prompt on the screen, dont know why they didnt put it in the grapple rework post.
They aren't very good at explaining anything. Like nowhere was it mentioned the tapping needed was now slower.
Its not even a bad change either. But why not simply say that? Or maybe even showcase it in that livestream that everyone was clowning for being a dumpster fire?
No point to play victim now
@@jarydjarjarsfasha2998 lol I promise you that you can play and win the game without grappling bro
@@juniorfanti3005 That's only one part that's trash, stamina still broke, can't play new map, still no actual content for the main mode other than dumb skins with no features we've been asking for, I'm 99, I play for xp not wins or losses and I am getting nothing for my dedication to the game
@@jarydjarjarsfasha2998 well if you’re complaining about all that other stuff then yeah those are all valid points I’m 99 as well but at least the main game has new players and victims are forced to change their approach now with is a bit fresh for the game. Stamina being bugged and not being able to grapple is a bit crappy
When I play family I love the grapples and when I play victim grappling is useless😂 I’ve been backstabbing family instead whenever QM puts me in as Victim
Just won a grapple fight as sissy 🥱
Ana doesn't have No Sell, so most likely she increased her STR. And yeah, victim endurance is still an a**, only works on the regeneration part but not for dashing.
So I have seen a few comments saying "grapples are meant to be an last resort". Which is fine until you realize, Last resort is you are most likely low health or low stamina. When your in this situation, grappling is NOT a good way as a last resort. You are more likely to fail on low health. Im not a person who does grapple often or barely at all. Now, I definitely will not even try. This update is a good start but I hope it is not the final one. If this stays, No victim will be able to survive a close encounter and Family wins all the time. At this point, Door slams are better. It cannot be changed based on strength but intelligence. I love TCM, I love playing both sides but this is too much family sided.
Grappling isn’t and shouldn’t be a victim sided thing, before the update killers would be grappled over and over again constantly and couldn’t do anything about it, you couldn’t barely win against people that have low strength.
Now grappling is something that’s dangerous to do like it’s supposed to be and your not supposed to be able to win a grapple against these typically higher savagery family members unless you are specifically built for it.
Ana and Leland can win grapples against all the killers if they build themselves for it but if you don’t.
Here is an example the Leland in this video has a minimum the exact same grapple strength as hands. The only thing to blame for his loss is himself
@Kar98k_gang Fair point, Then grapples are a specific build. Thank you for the pov.
How did I grapple a cook with 48 strength and max health. AND STILL LOSE!?😂
I swear the strength attribute says how quickly and efficiently you win a grapple this is known of those i dont hate it but i definitely dont love it they shouldve just give the family the grapple boost
Completely random but whats the music at the start of your vids??
I lost to Hitch with Anna at 50 strength, choose fight, and full health. Explain that one!?
I feel like with this grappling change they should remove the points system to help survivors
I was Leland when u kill me I should have won that grappling match
What is the point of grappling now.....
Dont do it... Lol
Do it grapple plzzzzz
@@DanielWilson-d1ufamily cried to the point that y’all killed the game with this update.
@@Pikaru-c4u maybe victims shouldn’t have abused grapples then?? Like way to exploit grappling to the point of obnoxiousness, it’s such a boring way to play, find other alternatives.
@@Pikaru-c4u just becoz u can't grapple Johnny or hands?
U can still win without abusing grapples like victims don't understand that do they? If ur dumb enough to grapple hands n not learn from then that's a you problem bro.
yous so much cried about the old grapple system that they changed it for you n gave a lazy reason for it
So using the grappler perk on Leland, does that help anymore or is that perk worthless now too?
As much as I wanted a shaved head on hands, this outfit would not go over well with it... yeesh
The update is great, I just think it needs to be slightly adjusted. I’m struggling sometimes as max strength max health Leland main 😭
But hey no more shitty grapple spamming!! it finally feels nice playing family
It’s favored for family. It’s almost not worth grappling with Leland bc it’s longer now
So teamwork means even less if the guy who’s supposed to protect us can’t even do that. They victims aren’t gonna play like this
@@Pikaru-c4u basically. Leland needs grappler to win it faster since the encounter last longer. Without it the killers were able to knock off all of my no sells and almost killed me. But teamwork would be key. One close encounters while the other back stabs
Sonny has more strengh than Johnny u shouldve lost ur first grapple
that's show how bad is this update and how he is family sided thinking that it is "fair"
lol you tried to hide when she was the last victim remember they can see the families auras for about 10 seconds so she was probably like 👁️👄👁️
HAHA so true i always forget everytime even after playing a year i have no idea why
Ana has no more no sell 😂😂😂😂 they took it out her tree
Gun better do something to incentivize people to play victim. Right now family and victim are about the same strength but family’s characters are a lot more fun. Now take grapples out (and yes I say out because I just watched a full health Leland lose a grapple). Keep nerfing victim with a 600 person player base and you will never be able to get into a game. So they either need some kind of fun element for victim or come out with a fun victim or this game will be RIP in 6 months
I like the new grappling but the game is completely destroyed for victim rn and the doors are still sometimes bugged and endurance is fixed but only for regen dashing is still bugged
Wtf are u talking about grappling is the way it should be you victims should not be grabbing killers get over it
@@collectingwithaj1898 lol what I literally said I liked the new grappling just complaining to complain atp
All the victim players finna be butt hurt just because it doesn't make sense for all the victim players to fight a strong tall and big guy. Im talking about connie and danny. Its only for johnny and hands its mostly towards hands. I mean they are strong guys you cant be salty about that just dont grapple them because gettig your ass beaten by a girl with low strength and your hands or johnny dont make any sense.
this update is broken, you literaly lose as Ana or leland. worst update ever
@@tizzi91able not if you have grappler with leland
Its not balanced, leland 50strengh full health die against a hitch w sg
I’ve been running 40 plus strength builds and am still losing to grapples at full health. Am I supposed to bring the grapple perks too in order to stand a chance?
I’ve resorted to Virginia back stabs but she’s behind a paywall, that’s fucked up TCM
Real question, why grapple at full health?
@@noahriggs455 lol they wont answer that though.
@@AJLikesGamesAlot because there’s no excuse. Losing to a hands & Johnny is both realistic and fair. Considering you can gap or crawl space away from them. Plus, wells all over the map. Learn to play the victim vs playing victim to bully.
Find other solutions than grappling, my god it’s not that hard. Victims reliance on grappling is so obnoxious.
@@AJLikesGamesAlotbecause If Connie is locking and used a shiv on the gate, I’m there to protect her… it’s simple
Yooo psychopaths beating the living crap out of young women is not supposed to be so funny
Cry 😂
😂😂😂😂
Unbalance asf and you're laughing now you wont be when theres only 20 players left
Waaaah I can’t abuse grappling and tbag in the basement, waaaah 😭😭😭
Actually I'm only level 18 and just wanted to level up 😅😭 @@79Bobola
This is unbalanced I’m sorry 😕 No victim should be losing at full health and strength
They still do
Maybe they shouldn’t grapple then? Like find other solutions, not that hard.
@@79Bobola Right they should just let Johnny 3 hit them. And they shouldn’t do something that’s in the game specifically for them to do.
Build in to it, not every single victim should win grapple this is way better plus the Devs have said close encounters are a last resort you to turn to not the first
@@DanielWilson-d1uyeah but as a last resort, you’re health will be low and you’ll die anyway. If Leland’s base strength matches hands strength for grapples, then max strength Leland should still have a better chance of winning the grapple
is it fair killing sonny at full health? ahahaha this game is a joke. litterally. he should be stronger based on devs stats. i wonder how think you family sided but litteraly middi you show how all family mains think. you want 1 insta kill or 3 tap kill if he try to normal run escape. 2:56
Game is not the same no more it's boring people camp the exits all day and not look for you
Sure, go back to Fortnite then son
And know here they come the victims that everygame they play leland and ana with full grapling builds tbagging and making fun of you now ,this is tooo family sided” stop f crying and play the game and if you dont like it uninstall lol