The Rise of Modern Luddites: How Art Has Changed Forever.
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Yeah. If we choose not to challenge capitalism and concept of most projects people work on being the investments of corporations and capitalists, we are going to have to create a user democracy where consumers have democratic input on what the AI creates and people who used to be "artists" or "writers" can find meaning again alongside mere-consumers
Good points!
So all of humanity shall be reduced to mindless consumers? Is that what you are saying?
People do not make art first and for most to earth money or even the final output is the creative process, the flow and the growth of skill.
In a society where we do not reward peoples skill and dedication to crafts and ability we will reduce the collective knowledge and skill and become more passive.
If one day output becomes constant and instant it will denialism a lot of peoples motivations to grow as humans.
The arts have purpose beyond simple output of products.
Very good points. I can't imagine any industry where this is not likely to be the case.
Artists cannot be replaced no matter how hard artificial intelligence tries
It’s also ironic that people give artificial intelligence images as references to the artist Do you know why their art has more life than artificial intelligence images
We still buy expensive things made by hand, even though we have machines that produce faster than humans, but despite this we still love things that are made by humans.
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No, they do not beat artist in every metric, they cannot create anything specific, you can never get what you exactly want or have in your head. At least not without greater human input.
They do not have an internal creative process nor inspiration. It is limited by its programming, hence what output it gives is limited.
It does what it does by leeching on what artists have already in data sets, data sets which have scraped work without consent.
They often make grand mistakes and induce the uncanny valley to absolute horror when it tries to do faces and hands and especially if it tries to be realistic or human.
These systems are not creative for real, they are just algorithms generating an image based what it sees as the logical conclusion. It has no imagination. So it does not make art the way humans do because it lacks inspiration, it lacks imagination, it lacks a creative process, and it lacks theory of mind and other deeper cognitive functions part to human creativity.
AI art generators are mindless and soulless and have no understanding or mind of what their algorithms generate.
So no it does not beat humans and it is not Luddite to at least want artists to have their copyright and creative and artistic integrity respected, and you are not a Luddite not be a blind tech utopian.
The future many of these tech people are building is what I would describe a tech dystopia.
Something that crosses Wall E and Brave New World, with the risks of loosing control as in Crichton’s Westworld and Hall 9000. Even if the utopians will get their society, as all utopian projects fail because of contradictions in human desires and needs.
Humans will reach an existential crises as their labour and activity will have no impact neither commercially or recreationally. A slow dumb down humanity which no longer develop skills or grows but a consumer in an endless st stream of content with no human touch.
It is also very clear that your vision is anti-humanistic as you care very little about the impact it will have for human lives and purpose, only caring about industrial output as the sole value and humans as consumers as the only role humans should have.
Taking the creative arts, something humans being love to do and an expression of their humanity and deepest sentiments and giving it to soulless machines is perverted and not what AI technologies should be doing.
Art and the creative process is something that humans grow, get better mental health and develop as human being and communicate is perverse.
When you do technology you need to think about as much what you OUGHT to do not just what you CAN do. These are different things. This where philosophy plays a part. Your vision is also anti-democratic and wish to deny and human agency in the direction of what these new technologies should and their limitations.
It uses just like the communists the myth of progress and the myth inevitability, nothing is inevitable and it is just something tech utopian use to deflect any debate and downplay any thought or concern people have.
The sports, humanities and the arts exist for humans to enjoy, practice and grow. To take that away from humans or move the focus of it from humans is anti-humanistic.
I say we must talk about regulations and law to protect artists artistic integrity, we must talk about where we are going and what society we want and what values should guide it and what AI technology should be for an what sacred limits shall be there.
Or we might one day wake up with Hall 9000 in a Wall E and Brave new world society where a dumb down passive humanity living for nothing but consumption and instant gratification. We know that humans thrive in friction and struggle and working on creative projects that demand time, dedication and work gives people fulfillment and a greater release of dopamine. Thinks that come cheap and easy does not. But that is the society that you promote. Quick gratification with no personal payoff
That is not a society I want live in.
That would be a horror and dystopia. Already speaking of dumbing down modern humans brain shrinks compared to our Paleolithic ancestors, simply because we do not use our brain as varied as we used to. The arts is one of the few places where we still can keep a healthy active brain, that grows and develop skills which we know is important for neurological health especially as we age.
So your dystopia will create but the simple rules of entropy and selection a dumber passive human specie.
That said it is not clear if this dystopia can happen because of constraints put on entropy, the extreme amount of energy such a society would demand would not be sustainable, one reason that not even a global use of self driving cars is very sustainable atm.
As a final note, we do not know fully how the human consciousness or mind works, so we have no idea if AI will ever get it or if we can fully replicate it. You assume materialism, but we have in philosophy and cognitive science the hard problem of consciousness. There are too many things we do not know.
There is no competition. Computers can create art better, cheaper, faster than humans. Artists will now starve. Oh. Wait. They already were starving.
No they do not.
They make often terrible monsters with uncanny scary faces and hands and anatomy that is so out there crazy I would call them monsters.
It’s just people jealous of a computer... you should have passion in ur art...
Having your work scrapped in large datasets to train AI models and use them to generate images without consent or compensation so that’s tech giants who believe they should interfere in all aspects of human life get rich is more than just jealousy.
@@jasminekaram880 I agree 100%! Some people will think that they are entitled to everything they can put their hands on.
@@SylvesterLazarus Yes and further the vision these tech utopians present is horrifying, they want something similar to Wall E and Brave New World and Open AI tries to achieve it.
And they spread nonesense like this video, AI is not better than humans in art, faster yes but without human edits it contains flawed hands, strange proportions, odd light and details, emotionally dead faces and etc and goes between uncanny valley to horrifying. AI art is soulless and does not tell any story as they do not know what they generate from their stolen datasets.
The tech utopians love it because they think it is a sign that AGI that is real AI is on the horizon, and worse for all of us that the singularity is coming. How any one wants that is beyond me.
So many great works of sci-fi fiction have tried to warn us of such anti-humanistic future but they the tech-utopians do not care.
The AI work that one a price was more of a mix human and AI work it was later shown.