If this was £49.58 a month which could be paid monthly instead of annually at £595 I would bite. But from what I've read if you start doing this sort of betting your accounts will get restricted to peanuts pretty damn quick! This is perhaps why they are sneakily asking for an annual subscription rather than letting you try it on a monthly basis for this amount (£150 a month otherwise!)...knowing your accounts would become useless pretty fast and you would end up cancelling your monthly subscription.
OK, I took a punt as I was curious. Within three days I've been stake-restricted down to pennies by two bookies, and another bookie has removed the option to do an each way bet on Lucky 15s. I don't doubt this would be profitable in the long run, but bookies are on to it big time.
My friend opened a ladbrokes this week. Deposited £30. Did 4x £7.50 (25p EW luckies)....account restricted in 4 bets. This is why there is no monthly option.
Of course, you're still taking e/w value whether or not you take them in singles, mutlis, luckies etc. Bookies will shut you down quickly doing them. It's a short term strategy only.
At 50p stakes it's £15 per bet. Assuming an EV of say 120%, each bet will yield £3 long term. So to make £500 per week you'd have to place around 167 bets, or 24 every day on average. Are we really to believe stake restrictions won't kick in at some point?
Some outplayed "members" never seem to get restricted and alwys win. On their pro tier results video on Friday someone claimed to have won 3.6 k in 24 days doing EWNL. He said he was averaging 70 bets bets @£15 EW per day!
Most bettors and matched bettors use multiple accounts at bookies because *everybody* gets gubbed or restricted sooner or later. No matter what they do.
@@garycosti8613 Thats mad. I do EWNL but try not to overdo it. I do about a dozen per day with much lower stakes. I make a few hundred quid a month (600 over last 4 weeks) and that's good enough for me and less chance of stake restrictions. As for lucky 15's, the variance seems too big too be honest judging by what people are saying. Not sure its worth the risk.
The Lucky Finder includes lots of different bookmakers, try spreading your bets out over multiple different bookmakers to avoid hitting the same bookmaker repeatedly to keep your accounts healthy. You can also use your gubbed and restricted account to do this strategy.
If you suddenly start putting on loads of Lucky 15's, your account will be gubbed/restricted within a month. This system (matched betting) does work, but it's not a long term thing.
@@outplayedcom That's nonsense. You will still only manage 3-4 bets before the pennies restriction comes-sharing between bookies may prolong the inevitable but it won't stop it! You have basically created an account killer tool.
I've been using this method for the past three days, placing bets on over 15 races and following the guide with a stake of £0.20 to £0.25 for each bet (£6.00 to £7.50 in total for each bet). I've been following the guide that suggests 'betting on slips above 115% if the odds are below 50,000 or 120% if they are above 50,000', and I haven't bet on any slips with an EV lower than 110%. So far, I've only made £12 over 15 races. It's not a great sample size at the moment, but as a reference, you would have to invest at least ten times more money to achieve the results stated in the video. I can't tell if it's worth it or not yet, but I'll come back and comment maybe a week later. The only thing I can say for certain is that this profit definitely isn't enough to cover the £150 monthly subscription cost for now. So, reconsider if you don't have a big bankroll like what he's using in this video.
The Lucky Finder includes lots of different bookmakers, try spreading your bets out over multiple different bookmakers to avoid hitting the same bookmaker over and over to keep your accounts going. You can also use your gubbed and restricted account to do this strategy!
@@outplayedcomgubbed and restricted accounts are the ones that would be under most scrutiny. 1 or 2 bets more that they don't like and its good night Vienna.
So this is just a gambling strategy basically. Like the casino offers with +EV. The problem is being unlucky only has to last until your bankroll is gone because that +EV might never show up in time.
Taking +EV bets is not gambling, it's a profitable long term betting strategy - the same strategy bookmakers and casinos use to make money. Managing your bankroll is very important using this strategy though so you can ride out any longer losing runs.
You will need a very substantial bankroll for the lucky 15’s. I’ve been using the Lucky Finder for 2 weeks and the £500 bankroll I started with has pretty much gone. 83 bets at £6per Lucky 15…there’s a reason it’s called a ‘LUCKY’ 15 as you definitely need huge luck to gain any sort of profit from these bets.
that is exactly the same thing as walking up to a blackjack dealer in a casino and asking him "aren't you gambling?" when you have an edge. and place lots of bets, you're certain to be in profit. its just maths.
I can see you charge an annual subscription of £595 for this. I would like to give it a go but don't want to commit immediately to a full annual subscription. Do you offer a trial? Can I cancel after 1 month?
@@jamieround2784 Thanks for your input. You said you cancelled your subscription. However, if you pay one year in advance - then you paid for one year anyway 595 Pounds
I have followed this advice with a £100 bank roll placing bets of .50p, today I am £60 in deficit, not if this strategy can yield the stated revenue ??
Does the software that makes the selections have a minimum odds parameter? What data is programmed into the software that enables it to select a particular horse in a race? What data is programmed into the software that enables it to select a particular race, to make a selection from? Does the software make (say) 12 selections per day, then combine the selections separately so that maybe 5 or 6 EW L15's are made by betting on each horse more than once in different combinations with the other hirses selected? I am also heavily stake restricted already by certain bookies and I strongly suspect i wouldn't be able to get many L15's on. You used a Betfred a/c for placing the bets. They are one of the few online bookies who still pay bonuses if you just have the one winner in a L15, or pay a bonus if all 4 are winners. I suspect that if these L15's were placed with bookies who dont allow BOG or bonuses, then the possible profits would be somewhat lower. Apologies for lengthy post, but answers to all queries above would be appreciated. Thanks.
@@outplayedcom yeah, you are wrong. Companies will not let you do bad each-ways in perms over and over. It's funny you didn't realise this as you were coming up with this software and posting it on the internet.
I'm so glad I came to read the comments and confirm my suspicions. Any of my surviving accounts that aren't already gubbed and severely stake restricted soon would be.
Taking your example of turning £100 into £300, what kind of points allocation would you say that £100 represents, and what level of drawdown can be expected for that £100?
I was staking the full amount daily across 6-8 L15s. Betfred is good because if you only get one winner they pay out at triple odds, which reduces variance a lot. Others like 365 pay double odds.
@@outplayedcom Thanks for that, but I still can't quite get my head around it - what I'm really after is this: If I have a bank of £X, what fraction of X should I put in for each bet and what fraction of X is likely to be the max drawdown? So I saw you were betting (with some variance according to the odds) 50p (£15 over the whole of the Lucky 15) - so if I had a bank of £200 would I then base my bets around £1 (£30 over the whole of the Lucky 15)? And for said bank of £200, if it hit the worst losing streak you've seen straight off the bat, what the loss be?
Yes, it targets regular Each Way races where there is value in the place market, and also includes selections from the Extra Place Master too. The additional value from the Extra Place races is built in to the 'Place EV' displayed on the Lucky Finder. It also displays the number of places in the 'Places Paid' column. Let us know if you need a hand with anything else. 🙌
@@outplayedcom I mean its not true to say they are too lazy. They have no option to change the place part of the bet because the win/place odds are built in. For example if a horse is priced at 10 then the place odds are 2.8 if they are paying a 1/5 and they cant change that. Thats why we have an edge with bad EW races and EWNL.
Surprised anyone needs software for this betting strategy…. It’s been around since time began. Usually big EW value found in novice and maiden races, however what isn’t mentioned in the video is how quick bookmakers algorithms are at spotting people who bet like this & your account will quickly be restricted to peanuts.
@@outplayedcom Surely the value here is on the each way part. You can't back a football team each way? Or are you talking about 4 x outright arbs? In which case that's an immediate account closure.
If this was £49.58 a month which could be paid monthly instead of annually at £595 I would bite. But from what I've read if you start doing this sort of betting your accounts will get restricted to peanuts pretty damn quick! This is perhaps why they are sneakily asking for an annual subscription rather than letting you try it on a monthly basis for this amount (£150 a month otherwise!)...knowing your accounts would become useless pretty fast and you would end up cancelling your monthly subscription.
update : they let you pay monthly now
We need more brutally honest reviews /reflections like this -- and not from undercover affiliates. Thanks a lot @andywilbourn6663
OK, I took a punt as I was curious. Within three days I've been stake-restricted down to pennies by two bookies, and another bookie has removed the option to do an each way bet on Lucky 15s. I don't doubt this would be profitable in the long run, but bookies are on to it big time.
My friend opened a ladbrokes this week. Deposited £30. Did 4x £7.50 (25p EW luckies)....account restricted in 4 bets.
This is why there is no monthly option.
Of course, you're still taking e/w value whether or not you take them in singles, mutlis, luckies etc. Bookies will shut you down quickly doing them. It's a short term strategy only.
£595 annualy without monthly option and with possible acc. restriction ?!
No thanks !
I believe there is also a monthly option.
Nope, they say how much it costs monthly but it clearly says “billed today at £595”
@@agemoth £150 a month. Which is very expensive, let's be honest.
£97 a month right now, can be billed monthly
At 50p stakes it's £15 per bet. Assuming an EV of say 120%, each bet will yield £3 long term. So to make £500 per week you'd have to place around 167 bets, or 24 every day on average. Are we really to believe stake restrictions won't kick in at some point?
Some outplayed "members" never seem to get restricted and alwys win. On their pro tier results video on Friday someone claimed to have won 3.6 k in 24 days doing EWNL. He said he was averaging 70 bets bets @£15 EW per day!
Most bettors and matched bettors use multiple accounts at bookies because *everybody* gets gubbed or restricted sooner or later. No matter what they do.
@@garycosti8613 Thats mad. I do EWNL but try not to overdo it. I do about a dozen per day with much lower stakes. I make a few hundred quid a month (600 over last 4 weeks) and that's good enough for me and less chance of stake restrictions. As for lucky 15's, the variance seems too big too be honest judging by what people are saying. Not sure its worth the risk.
What about stake restrictions?? Surely after a few wins the account will be restricted to pennies?? Genuinely interested in this. Thanks
The Lucky Finder includes lots of different bookmakers, try spreading your bets out over multiple different bookmakers to avoid hitting the same bookmaker repeatedly to keep your accounts healthy. You can also use your gubbed and restricted account to do this strategy.
If you suddenly start putting on loads of Lucky 15's, your account will be gubbed/restricted within a month. This system (matched betting) does work, but it's not a long term thing.
You can spread your bets out over multiple different bookmakers to avoid hitting the same bookmaker over and over with these value bets.
@@outplayedcom That's nonsense. You will still only manage 3-4 bets before the pennies restriction comes-sharing between bookies may prolong the inevitable but it won't stop it! You have basically created an account killer tool.
I've been using this method for the past three days, placing bets on over 15 races and following the guide with a stake of £0.20 to £0.25 for each bet (£6.00 to £7.50 in total for each bet).
I've been following the guide that suggests 'betting on slips above 115% if the odds are below 50,000 or 120% if they are above 50,000', and I haven't bet on any slips with an EV lower than 110%.
So far, I've only made £12 over 15 races. It's not a great sample size at the moment, but as a reference, you would have to invest at least ten times more money to achieve the results stated in the video. I can't tell if it's worth it or not yet, but I'll come back and comment maybe a week later.
The only thing I can say for certain is that this profit definitely isn't enough to cover the £150 monthly subscription cost for now. So, reconsider if you don't have a big bankroll like what he's using in this video.
15 races is statistically insignificant. Do it on 1500 and then come back and update us!
Charging this amount of money for something that will kill your accounts within a few bets is crazy.
The Lucky Finder includes lots of different bookmakers, try spreading your bets out over multiple different bookmakers to avoid hitting the same bookmaker over and over to keep your accounts going. You can also use your gubbed and restricted account to do this strategy!
@@outplayedcomgubbed and restricted accounts are the ones that would be under most scrutiny. 1 or 2 bets more that they don't like and its good night Vienna.
So this is just a gambling strategy basically. Like the casino offers with +EV. The problem is being unlucky only has to last until your bankroll is gone because that +EV might never show up in time.
Taking +EV bets is not gambling, it's a profitable long term betting strategy - the same strategy bookmakers and casinos use to make money. Managing your bankroll is very important using this strategy though so you can ride out any longer losing runs.
@@outplayedcom But we're not bookmakers or casinos, that's the problem lol. They have tools that let them do things like restricting accounts etc.
You will need a very substantial bankroll for the lucky 15’s. I’ve been using the Lucky Finder for 2 weeks and the £500 bankroll I started with has pretty much gone.
83 bets at £6per Lucky 15…there’s a reason it’s called a ‘LUCKY’ 15 as you definitely need huge luck to gain any sort of profit from these bets.
that is exactly the same thing as walking up to a blackjack dealer in a casino and asking him "aren't you gambling?"
when you have an edge. and place lots of bets, you're certain to be in profit. its just maths.
@@JTXRN And how much of a bank roll does a blackjack dealer have?
Doing this for years but no accounts left. Barred
It comes to an end one day unfortunately
I can see you charge an annual subscription of £595 for this. I would like to give it a go but don't want to commit immediately to a full annual subscription. Do you offer a trial? Can I cancel after 1 month?
@@jamieround2784 Thanks for your input. You said you cancelled your subscription. However, if you pay one year in advance - then you paid for one year anyway 595 Pounds
So what were the outcomes of those demo bets you placed? did any win?
You can see a whole bunch of results here - 05:29
I have followed this advice with a £100 bank roll placing bets of .50p, today I am £60 in deficit, not if this strategy can yield the stated revenue ??
Even if the claims about the software are true you can still be losing after hundreds of bets.
thats quite high bets for only £100 bank roll, stick to 10-15p so you can do more bets
do this and lose your account in about 3 bets, better to do it in shop
Does the software that makes the selections have a minimum odds parameter? What data is programmed into the software that enables it to select a particular horse in a race? What data is programmed into the software that enables it to select a particular race, to make a selection from? Does the software make (say) 12 selections per day, then combine the selections separately so that maybe 5 or 6 EW L15's are made by betting on each horse more than once in different combinations with the other hirses selected? I am also heavily stake restricted already by certain bookies and I strongly suspect i wouldn't be able to get many L15's on. You used a Betfred a/c for placing the bets. They are one of the few online bookies who still pay bonuses if you just have the one winner in a L15, or pay a bonus if all 4 are winners. I suspect that if these L15's were placed with bookies who dont allow BOG or bonuses, then the possible profits would be somewhat lower. Apologies for lengthy post, but answers to all queries above would be appreciated. Thanks.
Perming bad each-way horses and calling it "cutting edge". Fantastic way to lose money and your account very quickly.
Thank goodness you are here to tell us how wrong we are
@@outplayedcom yeah, you are wrong. Companies will not let you do bad each-ways in perms over and over. It's funny you didn't realise this as you were coming up with this software and posting it on the internet.
I'm so glad I came to read the comments and confirm my suspicions. Any of my surviving accounts that aren't already gubbed and severely stake restricted soon would be.
Taking your example of turning £100 into £300, what kind of points allocation would you say that £100 represents, and what level of drawdown can be expected for that £100?
I was staking the full amount daily across 6-8 L15s. Betfred is good because if you only get one winner they pay out at triple odds, which reduces variance a lot. Others like 365 pay double odds.
@@outplayedcom Thanks for that, but I still can't quite get my head around it - what I'm really after is this: If I have a bank of £X, what fraction of X should I put in for each bet and what fraction of X is likely to be the max drawdown? So I saw you were betting (with some variance according to the odds) 50p (£15 over the whole of the Lucky 15) - so if I had a bank of £200 would I then base my bets around £1 (£30 over the whole of the Lucky 15)? And for said bank of £200, if it hit the worst losing streak you've seen straight off the bat, what the loss be?
We are waiting to see the results of your bets bro
Bet history is shown at 00:29
@@outplayedcomam waiting to see,i tried to sign in but failed on phone number am in Africa 😔
How effective would this be on gubbed accounts?
It will work fine as long as you can get a decent size stake on
But the bookies might stake restrict you presumably?
Do these target extra place races or are these just a 'bonus' if it happens to choose one in an extra place raxe to increase the EV
Yes, it targets regular Each Way races where there is value in the place market, and also includes selections from the Extra Place Master too. The additional value from the Extra Place races is built in to the 'Place EV' displayed on the Lucky Finder. It also displays the number of places in the 'Places Paid' column. Let us know if you need a hand with anything else. 🙌
This is great Sam but yu did not click the E/W box when you placed the Lucky 15 bet; should you have done this? Thanks
You do want to tick the E/W box yeah
The bookmakers are too lazy too change things? Explain how they can change things.
Not sure what you mean - I said they're too lazy to price the place part of the bet properly.
@@outplayedcom I mean its not true to say they are too lazy. They have no option to change the place part of the bet because the win/place odds are built in. For example if a horse is priced at 10 then the place odds are 2.8 if they are paying a 1/5 and they cant change that. Thats why we have an edge with bad EW races and EWNL.
@@garycosti8613 They could adopt the exchange model of offering separate win and place markets. I think that's what he's getting at.
I tried to sign in your site but failed on phone number because am in Africa.i do have Betfred account already
use VPN
Sorry, our service is for UK residents only
I want to know what the maths is not the math thanks
Too much time spent in the U.S!
Could it be wise to say
Look for extra places in races 13 or lower?
The software factors in the number of runners so as long as you're looking at the EV and total odds that's all you really need to worry about.
where are you all seeing £595 annual? i can only see £995?
The price is £995 but we have a sale on ending today, don't miss out! - outplayed.com/pro-upgrade
£595. Before a bet placed. Mugs are us 😂😂
£97 monthly, i would also bet my bottom dollar they would allow you a few days free trial for it too.
Surprised anyone needs software for this betting strategy…. It’s been around since time began.
Usually big EW value found in novice and maiden races, however what isn’t mentioned in the video is how quick bookmakers algorithms are at spotting people who bet like this & your account will quickly be restricted to peanuts.
I will try this out £100 in the bookie, will update in a week to see profits. 10p stakes I am using with 10 bets per day
Nice one! Let us know how you get on 🙌
how did you get on?
@@SirVincelot -£100
-£150 subscription
= - £250 overall
The bailiff is after him by now.
What happened?
Can it only be done on horses. I'd prefer to bet on human sports of that makes sense
We only support horse racing at the moment but will add football in due course.
@@outplayedcom Surely the value here is on the each way part. You can't back a football team each way? Or are you talking about 4 x outright arbs? In which case that's an immediate account closure.