Exactly - it's audacious in a way that only someone who doesn't realize the immense depth of chess skill to be learned can be. Or that algorithms approach chess positions less efficiently with an overwhelming resource (computational resource that is) advantage, not the opposite.
His mindset was basically let's create a super optimised chess engine (almost impossible already), memorize its recommendations (more than atoms in the universe btw) and then beat possibly the best human to ever play chess, who has played chess his entire life. In a month. I would say this is the textbook definition of delusional.
Or just attention seeking. Did he really think becoming the world's best chess player would be as easy as learning a backflip in 30 days? What a joke. But the worst part is he wasn't joking...
Not quite. If his goal was to memorize recommendations for positions, he wouldn't have had to write his own engine. "Just" memorizing stockfish recommendations would have been good enough. But I think he realized that's obviously a completely stupid idea. From what I understood he tried to write a program that should come up with a (reasonably easy to memorize) algorithm to evaluate any postion. Then he "just" has to memorize that algorithm and can easily evaluate moves. Of course that's equally ridiculous, if not even more so, and it's baffling to me how he even dares to claim he got a program like this running and the only issue is that the computer didn't have enough time to come up with a good enough (or any) algorithm. But at least it sounds more believable to outsiders. I'm pretty sure he doesn't believe it himself at all unless he's incredibly stupid, which he doesn't seem to be. There probably isn't even such a program at all (not that it would work if it existed). He just got way too overconfident, then realized there's no way be could possibly beat Magnus, and invented a stupid excuse.
Okay but more than 90% of those positions will never be used ever. It has 10^120 but it's more like 10^20. Still a shit ton just not more atoms in the universe.
@1vader That's like saying there's no AI that's mastered roleplaying. You'd have believed yourself correct last year, but then it actually came out and became a financial success that will one day replace pen&paper gaming altogether.
@@Qhsjahajw Yeah but the stakes a higher in boxing IMO. You lose a chess game vs your jaw is fractured in 7 places, liver ruptured, and you only have one eye left.
Yep. It’s as simple as downloading Alpha Zero from the Apple App Store, memorising about 10 openings (there are only so many possibilities, right? 🤤) and then putting the world champion in his place. Next challenge: learning to tie shoelaces with one hand.
He is a bit delusional. Just casually going from something you can learn in a day to something that is literally impossible to do even in many many years.
Man, i guess that the problem was he had no fucking clue about how hard chess is. To acknowledge the complexity of the game you've gotta understand a little bit of it. We who play chess know how difficult it is to master it, he in the other hand though it was like tic tac toe...
Not just in chess, saying that he would be mastering a skill in a short period of time and defeat the best in the world in it would be disrespectful in any field. Can he defend against the best footballers after a month of training? Will he be able to knockout the best boxers with a month of training? He mastered the backflip, a self potrait and Rubik's cube. He wouldn't be able to stand against the best in even those skills. Guy is just doing mediocre stuff which any of us can do if being mediocre in any skill is the only job you have.
@@arnavrawat9864 it's playing off the kind of naive optimistism/arrogance of like the "tech bro"/entreprenurial type who thinks he can solve everything with some kind of "fresh/disruptive" approach
I don’t see why it was disrespectful. Max just tried something for a fun experiment, and I think Magnus enjoyed it as well because he was also doing just for fun. Do you think streamers’ games against subscribers are disrespectful? Also, remember people like Mir Sultan Khan played at a grandmaster level after only a year or two of playing European Chess.
@moi2833everyone learns, and should learn something every single day. The problem here is the guy believes he can learn something in a short enough amount of time equal to that of a professional who is considered the best.
“Cringe” pretty much sums it up. He is one of those types who thinks they’re always the smartest person in the room. This guy is totally overcompensating!
There a huge difference between learning a new skill every month and "mastering" a new skill every month. The former is an admirable goal, the latter is the very definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Yep and most of the time the first 5-10 moves are just theory anyway so there generally isn't much to be nervous about unless you don't know said theory.
@@thebushwabanana Only very proficient players can play 10 moves of theory. It's even quite hard to learn 5 moves of theory due to the sheer number of different openings
Yeah wtf happened? It was a month and all of a sudden he's already about to play with Magnus. Also why is he building an algorithm, wasn't stockfish already out
What was he even doing for the month? Just letting his computer run, checking in every few hours or so, thinking "any day now it'll be done, then I just have to memorize and I'm basically world champ"? The least he could've done was actually try to learn to be good while his "algorithm" was taking forever, since he clearly didn't have the foresight to realize it was taking too long
@Andrew D GPT-3 ideally uses 4+ 10K Tesla chips to generate text that makes sense - God knows what specs he's running to essentially memorize chess at its core.
@@elelyon431 tbf gpt-3 is a lot more intensive than training a chess engine. dont think he was trying to train an algo to memorize chess, HE HIMSELF wanted to memorize the best possible move in every position, which is even more fucking ridiculous
This is soo cringe but what was he thinking really. Other skills he chose learn were impressive but not that rare. Then he casually thought he could beat Magnus in a month?? Most people can’t even beat Magnus with LIFETIME of training. Smh
“Play chess like a computer” yea let me just brute force analyze 3million positions and pull up my 1000 games I played against myself from this position
@@ricasiogaming7873 stockfish is maybe considered the strongest engine simply cause it applies the simplest algorithm - pure brutt force- tree methods are more suited and more understandable by humans than by machines but who knows. Anyway up till this moment even the strongest chess engines still far away from solving the game and then comes some random noob trying do that in a month, what a joke
Michelle was the most real and humble person who has done a Chess challenge in 30 days. She really put a ton of effort in and realized how complex the game is.
I am training chess for over ten years and am 2000 Fide rated. I am in strong belief I would not draw one game out of 20 against Magnus or Danya if I wasn't given time odds. And then a complete douchebag comes and claims he will win a game against Magnus after a month of training. He might as well challenged Le Bron in a 1 on 1 match. Chess is not a backflip!
@@MissingOrchid I'm utterly confused by your comment. Was it sarcasm or did you mean to say Magnus won instead of beat. I don't recall him ever losing to this max person.
That was the dumbest thing. Even after absolutely getting destroyed after modifying his own challenge rules multiple times, he still feels the need to have some sort of "win" and makes that comment. No dude, you never stood a chance. You were wrong. Go back home.
As someone researching deep neural networks and artificial intelligence his statement about creating an algorithm made me feel physically uncomfortable. The bigger accomplishment here would not be beating Carlsen but creating an algorithm that doesn’t need to calculate future lines and only taking the current position as an input, essentially creating a winning strategy.
There's another video where a guy sets himself a much more "realistic" goal of beating someone rated 1500 USCF in a month. It went about as well as you might expect, but that guy was much, much more humble about it.
@@CalebShimomura I would be SHOCKED if a first-time, adult chess player could get to 1500 that fast. He did far better in his last game (as you'd expect) but he still got beaten fairly easily (as you'd expect)
@@gcollins1992 I mean i'm not saying "I think a lot of people can do this", but I think given a sufficiently motivated, efficiently taught, and relevantly intelligent student (maybe a 99th percentile intelligence), I'd guess that this was an achievable goal. From what i've heard about the streamer hafu (who went from about 600 to start to 1300 in the space of a month and is apparently an effective learner), it's not outside the realm of possibility that someone could do this. Again, for the vast majority of people, this is probably not doable. I'm just saying I think it's possible.
Lol, "I designed an algorithm in a month. I'm pretty sure it'll solve chess in the next few hours, and I'll be able to memorize every possible move in a 60-move game." What a clown.
Somehow he realized chess was too hard to learn the traditional way in a month, but he didn't realize that memorizing all chess positions wasn't a feasible alternative. I want to see the code he wrote.
"The first 5 moves are good" - Magnus Honestly, to have a wide understanding of openings in your first month is both an ambitious and much more realistic goal.
I mean, the first 5 moves are purely theoretical, which ARE memoizable. Given that the guy was White he could at least force a mainline opening and reasonably memorize the main lines of that, but I think he failed at Move 8.
Sounds like it. He could have have used Stockfish and start memorizing away. But of course, this stunt is about self promotion so the more outlandish the claim the better in his eyes.
i think so, but (giving him the benefit of the doubt) perhaps a 'smarter' chess engine such that you didn't have to memorise each position but rather learned heuristics to apply (such as open files are good for your rooks etc). obviously that would be incredibly difficult to create (to be accurate) in complex positions but maybe the guy knows something i do
I think his plan was to build an algorithm that can look at any board and decide which side is winning without having to calculate the position any deeper. From there his plan was to memorize the algorithm (not the individual positions). Then he'd just look at the board states and consider one move deep and find through out the game he'd keep looking only 1 move deep until he found a path to a win. His plan was never to memorize each possible position. His plan was to memorize the "brain" of the algorithm so that on the fly he could essentially use the algorithm entirely from his head. This approach from the outside is logically sound. It may have even worked for a simpler game. But in the end there are two problems. If those 3 problems were solved then his approach would become viable. Those problems are as follows. 1. Creating an algorithm to decide which side is most likely to win the game based on the board state without looking deeper is insanely hard. The amount of computing time required reaches towards being measured centuries 2. Simply having the algoritm stored on your computer isn't enough. You need to actually memorize the algorithm once your computer has found it. Unfortunately the finished algoritm would be massive in size. Beyond the scope of human memorization even if you had your entire life time to study it. 3. Even if he had all the time in the world I'm not convinced that his computer could physically store the completed algorithm. The space on the harddrive would run out. His approach is worth thinking about again. In the year 2500 when we have supercomputers that can fit in a single chip that can be surgically installed into our heads.
@@hamsterfromabove8905 the thing is, managing an algorithm that evaluates a position perfectly without needing to search is akin to solving chess altogether.
@Qimodis master at fooling idiots into paying attention to him....he has no skills abilities that stand out...and he managed about a 1200 performance here.....certainty not inspiring to a keen intellect
There are only two impressive things in this: (1) How he was able to get Magnus to agree to this (2) How he was able to prove that delusions have no boundaries
I don't think that's an accurate description of the problem. I think we can all agree that playing the violin is a skill but clearly it's ridiculous to claim being able to play in a classical symphony as a complete beginner after one month. The main problem is that his scope is completely wrong. All his other achievements were on a much lower level. What be tried was equivalent to learning a triple backflip or solving a rubik's cube in 5 seconds, which as you can probably imagine, takes exponentially more effort, and is probably not even something every human can learn. Actually, those things are probably still easier than beating Magnus, since that basically requires starting very young. Chess is simply a much more difficult game and on top of that beating the world champion is pretty much the ultimate challenge in that already difficult game.
The problem is mastering a skill is not the same as beating the best in the world. If he used that same criteria he hasn't technically mastered anything. He can do 40 pull ups but the actual #1 record is probably much higher he might be able to do a backflip but some people can do standing double backflips. If he said mastery of chess = some rating it would have made more sense than being able to beat magnus.
@@erniepombo323 I agree. I think most of his other achievements were being better at a particular activity than 95-99% of people (e.g. developing perfect pitch, which only around 1% of people possess innately). In chess, that would probably translate to an elo of around 1400, which imo would be a realistic target for him.
He didn't come up with a chess engine He wrote a program, which creates an algorithm. Which solves chess. On top of defeating the world champion, he wanted to create an AI If that ever comes to pass magnus will be up for another game
'mastering a skill' is not the same thing as being the best at that skill. Like it's not like he learned to do back flips better than the parkour world champion, it's not like his self portrait sold for millions of dollars. Why did he think that he could be the best at something within a month? His challenge should have been something like: I'll learn how to play chess within a month and then rank not last in a local club tournament or something.
it is a roast. if the guy was an actually good player, magnus would probably have played him free of cost. But, cause this guy is cringe, magnus had to be paid lmao
I've only seen this level of naivete once when I went to a Japanese course. A group of friends though that they would go from absolute 0 (they didn't even watch much Japanese media) to paid translators in 6 months. Obviously in a few weeks they realized how much effort it takes and they gave up in less than 3 months.
Being able to speak two languages (fluently and without errors) is still a long way from being able to translate between them. My native language is Mandarin, but I still cannot efficiently translate between English and Mandarin. It requires dedicated practice after learning the languages to translate between.
@@jerrytu0916 It might be harder to translate between English and Mandarin, than between English and Romanian. I've done plenty of reports that were just my translation of some wiki page or report to Romanian, was relatively easy to me. Either way, reaching fluency in a language that's completely different from yours should take years and reaching a level that you can use to do paid translation should take an extra amount of years. Way harder than their expected going to a casual course and maybe working an extra hour or 2 per week for 6 months.
I guess if you had access to a dictionary and were exclusively translating from Japanese into english (written) it would be possible, but I cant think of anyone that would pay for someone that essentially just knows basic grammar and has lot of free time
@@danjor5749If you live in Europe it’s pretty normal to be fluent in your native language and English. That’s mainly because English is easy to learn and also because you watch so many things in English (RUclips, movies if you want to).
What are you talking about, clearly all his time was spent on writing this genius program to find the perfect algorithm. If only he'd have had a little bit more time for it to complete 🙄😂🤣
What probably happened was that he didn't realize chess was hard spent most of his time trying to learn chess the normal way, wasn't able to cross 900 and so with typical tech bro arrogance tried to recreate the alphazero/leela evaluation function but grossly underestimated the size of the model he would need to memorize for it to be even remotely accurate. Not to mention even the neural net engines need to go through the search tree and can't solely spit out the position with the best evaluation
@@siddharthamishra1999 a brief effort to determine what had been accomplished in this field by others - even just a google or wikipedia article on the topic would have shown him what hubris his undertaking was. But I guess he didn't bother because he knew he could do it so much better by himself.
This is the best video I can think of for Daniel to react to. Daniel’s the perfect kind of educated and accomplished person that can fully appreciate the absurdity of this video. I mean there are so many layers of absurdity in this guy’s approach that it’s hard to figure out if it’s all an onion article
no matter how many times i see his video im still dumbfounded by his plan. not only did he spend a month doing nothing on something thats already available to everyone, he also thought he could.... MEMORIZE ALL OF CHESS?
@@ojasdighe991 Probably a combination of the hubris and over-confidence of a young SF tech-worker combined with his "solution" of using trying to use tech to solve the problem.
There’s nothing wrong with challenging yourself to implement and advance new skills under strict time constraints. Seems like a fun and productive thing to do. What makes him instantly unlikeable is that he has so arrogantly underestimated the complexity of chess and overestimated his ability to learn as a supercomputer would. If he’d challenged himself to last a certain number of moves against Magnus or to defeat a 1500 rated player etc, I’d have no issue with it. Even that would require an exceptional degree of talent. Did he not wonder why chess tournaments offer such sizeable cash prizes... why the game is widely regarded as a measure of intellect and cunning...
This is a really arrogant and snobby comment. Firstly, chess has little to do with intellect and more to do with memory of chess patterns and visualisation. Secondly, you can’t expect someone new to the game to understand its depth. Honestly, get off your high horse.
@@SuperYtc1 I knew long before I started playing chess, that I wouldn't be able to master a game with some crudely conceived 'algorithm', in a matter of months, to defeat actual geniuses who've dedicated their lives to it. Also, I like how you ignored everything else I said and just chose to mention my use of the word "intellect" at the end. You're clearly just looking for an argument. It is you who needs to get off your high horse - nothing I said was unfair or unreasonable.
@@BaresEatBeats Everything you have said is unfair and unreasonable. My comment refers to your whole comment, not just the intelligence part. The modern chess world is sick of people like you, who gatekeep and think you're so intelligent for playing a board game. I applaud Max for putting himself out there and creating something entertaining. You, sitting on your PC and crying over something trivial I have no respect for at all. Chess is a board game, and Max is just someone having some fun. Get over yourself.
Michelle Khare - Takes the time and effort to study games and train for months to learn from her mistakes, takes notes from her teachers, and is aware of how hard chess can be. She’s also aware that Magnus is Superman at chess. Maxxy - Doesn’t realize the kind of level Magnus is at, tries to upload the billion games he planned to memorize to “beat” Magnus, thinks he made Magnus “nervous” on the 8th move, and blamed his computer for failing to upload those billion games for him to memorize.
That's more doable than beating world champion in something less physical, you could be tall and muscular and defeat LeBron, but beating Magnus in a chess match? Nah.
@@4cer356 le bron has literally done this for his entire life. you think some random guy, altho muscular, can beat the guy in 1 month? Huh i wonder why everyone who's like 6 foot 5 doesnt do that.
@@ultimatedoug2227 also I never said it will be easy, it's definitely doable if you have super genetics and are taller or equal to LeBron, but no matter how good your pattern recognition is or how fast you can study, you will never defeat Magnus with just a month of training, hell, even if you have played chess before and you are like 2500, you still won't be able to beat Magnus with just a month of training, but for example G-League player just might have very slight chance at beating LeBron 1 on 1
That's hilarious comparing beating the chess Grandmaster to learning a standing backflip 😅 That's one of the easiest tricking techniques to learn. The more appropriate comparison would have been to win redbull art of motion or something
I remember this guy. He's just another nutter planning on selling his "method". I think he always knew he was never going to win this game, but couldn't resist the free exposure. I'm sure he's still on his Patreon, telling people that if they take two cold showers a day, they will be able to levitate, or whatever garbage he's selling.
@@bevbo42 IS HE, though? Cus his lie about an algorithm is not a very good lie. I think he underestimated the audience and did nothing but harm to his reputation, with this stunt and his own dishonesty.
Magnus should have invited him to an open tournament, and if he made it to the finals, then he'd get the shot. You know, like everyone else on the planet.
So I went digging and actually found a blog post by Mr. Deutsch himself and I was curious to see what he said about the game. Here's an excerpt: FAQ2: Did you think you were going to win? I never thought I was going to win. In fact, this was the entire premise of this challenge: How could I take what is an impossible challenge (i.e. if I trained using a traditional chess approach, I would have an effectively 0% chance of victory), and approach it from a new angle. Perhaps, I wouldn’t completely crack the impossibility of the challenge, but maybe I could poke a few holes in it, making some fascinating headway and introducing some unconventional ideas along the way. This was more an exploration of how you approach the impossible than anything else. While I made decent and interesting progress towards this alternative approach, it wasn’t quite ready by the time that I sat down for the game with Magnus. So, barely having learned normal chess, I sat down to play the game as a complete amateur. Thoughts, Danya?
He definitely seems more humble here but still, the idea that he can introduce some unconventional ideas to a game over 1000 years old after a months training is still very silicon valley .
The guy thought that he made Magnus nervous during his first 8 moves. Don't pay attention to that, "I'm just giving it my best, that's how we improve sappy, saving face generic speech."
"I can do a back flip so now I'm going to beat the chess world champion". Lmao, if he had won an Olympic gymnastics event with only a month of experience, then maybe I'd believe him
Danya: Of course this guy lives in San Francisco. He fits the silicon valley stereo type so well he doesn't even try to hide it Me (Who lives in SF too): Uhhmm.. what stereotypes exactly? haha..ha *sweats nervously*
Don’t think he meant anything as negative as these comments make it. He just fits that pseudo-tech guy with a naive idea which we assume SF has tons of for every Steve Jobs they produce. Either way, Magnus seemed to have enjoyed the experiment. Whatever “disrespect” he had, he sure learned his lesson. What we can get from this, is the irony of chess being full of people with superiority complexes which turned a video we can have a laugh at and scroll into a circlejerk.
@@SeeMyDolphin I don't think there's a chance he would have beaten the world champion in checkers either. Chess is obviously a more difficult game but the main problem is his scope. Beating the world champion is not the same as doing a backflip or learning to do the rubik's cube in 20 seconds. He'd have to do a triple backflip or solve it in 5 seconds for it to be even remotely comparable and as you can probably imagine, those are all things that are exponentially more difficult and take way longer to learn or are even impossible for most humans.
@@1vaderMy point is that Checkers is a solved game, so there would be no need to for him to approach the challenge from a novel perspective. If you play first in Checkers, you're guaranteed to win as long as you don't make any mistakes, so he would just need to learn how to do that. The point of his experiment was to give himself a seemingly impossible challenge with no known solution, so that he would be forced to come up with a brand new method of learning something. With Checkers he wouldn't have to do any of that, because we already know how to play Checkers perfectly.
@@SeeMyDolphin I mean, I don't believe it's possible to memorize the way for checkers either, right? If he just wanted to memorize positions, he could have just memorized what stockfish gave him. What he wanted to find is a memorizable algorithm to beat the world champion which I don't believe exists for checker either? Though I wouldn't know since I don't know much about checkers. But it seems to me that finding such a thing for checkers would still be pretty amazing, even if it would sound much less impressive and not have nearly the same publicity impact, if any at all.
The biggest takeaway I learned from this is: Don't use the word "master" lightly. You can "learn" a skill, like doing a backflip. But it takes many, many years of hard work to achieve the title of "master". There's a HUGE difference between saying "He learned how to do a backflip" versus "He's mastered gymnastics to the point he's as talented as Simone Biles". My biggest issue here is this guy is using the term "learning" and "mastering" inter-changeably. Not to mention, it's extremely naïve to call yourself a "master" at something; it should always be others who call you a master at a field.
When I first saw this Max Deutsch video I thought maybe the average person has no idea how good a GM is (let alone arguably the strongest player of all time in his prime no less) but after watching Daniel's reaction I realize it's probably mostly just overconfident tech bros.
If this guy did this as a JOKE I would think it's brilliant and funny. But he's dead serious. It's beyond cringe... He "mastered" being able to do 40 pull-ups in a month? That doesn't mean anything! More than half of it comes down to his day 0 form, but even then working up to 40 pull-ups in 30-ish days isn't that hard if that's all your focus for that month. He "mastered" a backflip. So he learned to do one backflip in a months time? Not to take away anything from his or other real gymnast's achievements, but that is also easy if you are a semi-fit young person. I have seen Juji teach half a dozen people to backflips in less than a day each. If that's your sole focus for a whole month, and you seek out the correct trainer/training material (RUclips tutorials), anyone who really sets their mind to it can do that. I feel that's all he is. He isn't special in any way, he just really sets his mind to these random tasks. Sure, everyone should learn new skills, I agree with him! But he's so arrogant about it. So nonchalant about going to try and beat a chess master with less than a months practice. And he wasted that month trying to quote-unquote cheat with a computer algorithm? All that being said, a show where someone ACTUALLY managed to become a top level athlete in one sport at a time, that would be amazing! A person like this who did 6 months of heavy prep with someone at the top of his field, and more or less could reach for example a top tier baseball player one year, then ice hockey the next year, then chess player. Heck, League of Legends or Counter-Strike player! That'd be an interesting show. But that obviously presumes that he actually succeeded. This jokester wasn't even close to beating the chess master. He should stick to pull-ups or cart wheels...
I hated that video (the original, not this reaction) because he's so arrogant. After just a month of training he would probably lose to a 1500 player and, obviously, he lost against the (probably) best player of chess in history.
“I had him nervous for the first 8 moves” lmao Magnus absolutely shaking in his boots watching this guy go into main line ruy lopez
Once Max hung a full piece on move 13, Magnus let out a sigh of relief as he knew it was gonna be okay
Magnus should've taken him into some deep Sicilian theory, that would've been hilarious
I got a good laugh from this
@@johannchin6431 magnus cant take him into deep sicilian theory because this guy will leave theory on the first 2 moves and just straight up lose...
@@johannchin6431 Nah, Magnus should have challenged him to a 2nd game, with Magnus giving queen odds and playing blind folded.
Beating Usain Bolt in a 100m race after practicing for a month.
Exactly - it's audacious in a way that only someone who doesn't realize the immense depth of chess skill to be learned can be. Or that algorithms approach chess positions less efficiently with an overwhelming resource (computational resource that is) advantage, not the opposite.
@@Jivewired He learned to solve a Rubik's cube in 20 seconds. How hard could chess be? 🥴
Except beating Usain Bolt would be easier than beating Magnus at Chess
And then thinking he actually had Usain Bolt nervous for the first 30m
I'm wondering if Max could beat Usain Bolt in chess. Maybe, maybe not.
His mindset was basically let's create a super optimised chess engine (almost impossible already), memorize its recommendations (more than atoms in the universe btw) and then beat possibly the best human to ever play chess, who has played chess his entire life. In a month. I would say this is the textbook definition of delusional.
Or just attention seeking.
Did he really think becoming the world's best chess player would be as easy as learning a backflip in 30 days? What a joke. But the worst part is he wasn't joking...
@@hylianchriss that's even worse
Not quite. If his goal was to memorize recommendations for positions, he wouldn't have had to write his own engine. "Just" memorizing stockfish recommendations would have been good enough. But I think he realized that's obviously a completely stupid idea.
From what I understood he tried to write a program that should come up with a (reasonably easy to memorize) algorithm to evaluate any postion. Then he "just" has to memorize that algorithm and can easily evaluate moves. Of course that's equally ridiculous, if not even more so, and it's baffling to me how he even dares to claim he got a program like this running and the only issue is that the computer didn't have enough time to come up with a good enough (or any) algorithm. But at least it sounds more believable to outsiders. I'm pretty sure he doesn't believe it himself at all unless he's incredibly stupid, which he doesn't seem to be. There probably isn't even such a program at all (not that it would work if it existed). He just got way too overconfident, then realized there's no way be could possibly beat Magnus, and invented a stupid excuse.
Okay but more than 90% of those positions will never be used ever. It has 10^120 but it's more like 10^20. Still a shit ton just not more atoms in the universe.
@1vader That's like saying there's no AI that's mastered roleplaying. You'd have believed yourself correct last year, but then it actually came out and became a financial success that will one day replace pen&paper gaming altogether.
“I’ve been learning boxing for a month and I decided to challenge Mike Tyson.”
That sounds more reasonable than this though. Maybe Mike Tyson is just having a really bad day
exactly chess has higher ratio of skill to luck than boxing
@@Qhsjahajw Yeah but the stakes a higher in boxing IMO. You lose a chess game vs your jaw is fractured in 7 places, liver ruptured, and you only have one eye left.
Even in his 50's Mike Tyson would kill most people alive today in boxing.
@@digital_gravity Saying just "most people" doesn't even give it justice.
Interviewer: "Why did you take this Challenge Magnus?" Danya: "I think they paid him" 🤣
He's not wrong tho 😂
I really hope it was a handsome amount as well for how big of a waste of time it was for Magnus.
it’s like a day. the challenge went viral and we saw ads for magnus chess app in the background so definitely worth it.
@@kwastimus and he probably didnt even try
How to beat Magnus, step one: Solve Chess
Yep. It’s as simple as downloading Alpha Zero from the Apple App Store, memorising about 10 openings (there are only so many possibilities, right? 🤤) and then putting the world champion in his place. Next challenge: learning to tie shoelaces with one hand.
@@BaresEatBeats the shoelaces part had me rolling
Lol
@@BaresEatBeats hahahhahahah this is why i love the chess comunity
Step one: have a smartphone in your pocket.
ah yes, landing a back flip and winning against a world champion in a sport, practically the same
He is a bit delusional. Just casually going from something you can learn in a day to something that is literally impossible to do even in many many years.
Man, i guess that the problem was he had no fucking clue about how hard chess is. To acknowledge the complexity of the game you've gotta understand a little bit of it. We who play chess know how difficult it is to master it, he in the other hand though it was like tic tac toe...
Game * not sport
@@jaydendiscalo6300 a sport* and also a game. As recognised by the international Olympic committee.
Not just in chess, saying that he would be mastering a skill in a short period of time and defeat the best in the world in it would be disrespectful in any field. Can he defend against the best footballers after a month of training? Will he be able to knockout the best boxers with a month of training? He mastered the backflip, a self potrait and Rubik's cube. He wouldn't be able to stand against the best in even those skills. Guy is just doing mediocre stuff which any of us can do if being mediocre in any skill is the only job you have.
I live in San Francisco. "Of course he does", I lost.
"This person could only live in San Fransisco" i fucking cackled
I just moved to the Bay from the southeast US and I lost it at that line
Why is that funny
@@arnavrawat9864 it's playing off the kind of naive optimistism/arrogance of like the "tech bro"/entreprenurial type who thinks he can solve everything with some kind of "fresh/disruptive" approach
@@benoplustee San Francisco is famous for tech people?
gotta repsect Magnus for being so chill when facing such disrespectfulness towards chess
Magnus was definitely well paid.
I don’t see why it was disrespectful. Max just tried something for a fun experiment, and I think Magnus enjoyed it as well because he was also doing just for fun. Do you think streamers’ games against subscribers are disrespectful? Also, remember people like Mir Sultan Khan played at a grandmaster level after only a year or two of playing European Chess.
@@maxthexpfarmer3957 nah bro thats disrespectful, why would you challenge a grandmaster other than to win? Hella disrespect
@@maxthexpfarmer3957 Max!
@@overlord6843 I’m not him.
Its hilarious how he just takes the whole 'writing a program to solve chess for me' step as a given. Like thats just something you do in a weekend
especially given the amount of people (and computers) already working on 'solving the chess' since mid-1960s.
@moi2833 I think not.
@moi2833everyone learns, and should learn something every single day. The problem here is the guy believes he can learn something in a short enough amount of time equal to that of a professional who is considered the best.
@@IIBLANKII Spoken like a true amateur learner.
@@GEM4sta you're telling me you can learn any skill equal or better than the best professional of that skill in a matter of a month?
They must have stuffed so much money in Carlsen’s pocket to make him keep a straight face lol
No, his face wasn't straight at all. Dude thought Magnus was laughing with him, naw Magnus saw him as nothing but a joke
Dewa Kipas must have got his hands on that guys algorithm
this is exactly what I was thinking lmaooo
This guy hasn't mastered the tempo
He’s the best with The Gambit.
Dewa Kipas IS the algorithm
Comment of the century right here.
“Cringe” pretty much sums it up. He is one of those types who thinks they’re always the smartest person in the room. This guy is totally overcompensating!
There a huge difference between learning a new skill every month and "mastering" a new skill every month. The former is an admirable goal, the latter is the very definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
As a professional illustrator, I was very upset when he “mastered” drawing after one weak graphite self portrait.
@@cptn_n_cola He simply created an algorithm to memorize every possible pen stroke
@@qwerty1233787 best comment on the vid right here😭😭
@@qwerty1233787 oh man, you got me blowing air out of my nose
That is not the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect
It's not this guy's fault: in fact, both chessboard and Rubik cube have squares in common. He was tricked
In fact chess might be easier because it only got 2 different colors while rubik got 6.
@@wenhanzhou5826 🤔😆 good One👍
@@wenhanzhou5826 but the tricky part is a chess board has 64 squares, a Rubik's cube only has 54.
I like how from Magnus saying "the first ten moves were OK" (probably lying already) he gets "I made him nervous for 10 moves".
Yep and most of the time the first 5-10 moves are just theory anyway so there generally isn't much to be nervous about unless you don't know said theory.
I wasn’t there and I can’t read minds, but I’m reasonably certain that at no time Magnus was nervous.
@@thebushwabanana Only very proficient players can play 10 moves of theory. It's even quite hard to learn 5 moves of theory due to the sheer number of different openings
The master learner mistook magnus’s cringe for “nervous”.
The video goes on to a reporter saying that Max was “winning” after the first few moves
Max Deutch: "I will learn chess for a month"
Also Max Deutch: "It's 3 hours 'till the game, I haven't started yet"
Typical Silicon Valley attitude lol
yeah, it was such a disrespectful thing to waste time like that.
Yeah wtf happened? It was a month and all of a sudden he's already about to play with Magnus.
Also why is he building an algorithm, wasn't stockfish already out
What was he even doing for the month? Just letting his computer run, checking in every few hours or so, thinking "any day now it'll be done, then I just have to memorize and I'm basically world champ"? The least he could've done was actually try to learn to be good while his "algorithm" was taking forever, since he clearly didn't have the foresight to realize it was taking too long
some say his computer is still chugging away at that algorithm
@Andrew D GPT-3 ideally uses 4+ 10K Tesla chips to generate text that makes sense - God knows what specs he's running to essentially memorize chess at its core.
@@elelyon431 tbf gpt-3 is a lot more intensive than training a chess engine. dont think he was trying to train an algo to memorize chess, HE HIMSELF wanted to memorize the best possible move in every position, which is even more fucking ridiculous
This is to be read in the voice of Jeremy Clarkson, or not at all. :D
i dont even believe that he's actually making an algorithm. like, bro, thats impossible
Next on Hikaru’s channel: Hikaru reacts to Naroditsky reacts to Magnus Carlsen.
"I literally don't even care"
Naroditsky would copy right claim it if he did.
Max Deutsch is just a meme at this point😂
This is soo cringe but what was he thinking really. Other skills he chose learn were impressive but not that rare. Then he casually thought he could beat Magnus in a month?? Most people can’t even beat Magnus with LIFETIME of training. Smh
Max Deutsch beat Magnus on Antonios Channel watch it...
@@isaac._.6992 I can’t believe Magnus got crushed so hard, Max Deutsch’s powerful chess algorithm is truly amazing
@@tonywoy he won recently against Magnus. Check Agadmator.
@@isaac._.6992 @m1892 go to that vid and check the official chess24 video. 2nd link in description.
“Play chess like a computer” yea let me just brute force analyze 3million positions and pull up my 1000 games I played against myself from this position
hahaha
Yea one sec I’m go play a couple hundred million games against myself in a few hours to study
3 millions is a small number. The possible positions in chess are literally countless!
@@alimfares2622 yea I think that why they employ algorithms like minimax and Monte Carlo search tree methods
@@ricasiogaming7873 stockfish is maybe considered the strongest engine simply cause it applies the simplest algorithm - pure brutt force- tree methods are more suited and more understandable by humans than by machines but who knows. Anyway up till this moment even the strongest chess engines still far away from solving the game and then comes some random noob trying do that in a month, what a joke
Michelle was the most real and humble person who has done a Chess challenge in 30 days. She really put a ton of effort in and realized how complex the game is.
Yeah, her video was informative, entertaining, and inspiring. Deutsch was just cringe.
I am training chess for over ten years and am 2000 Fide rated. I am in strong belief I would not draw one game out of 20 against Magnus or Danya if I wasn't given time odds. And then a complete douchebag comes and claims he will win a game against Magnus after a month of training. He might as well challenged Le Bron in a 1 on 1 match. Chess is not a backflip!
😂😂😂💯
And you two would definitely kick this delusional guy's ass 20 times out of 20 as well lol.
@diztiinct ur 2300 fide but not a fm?
He has a way better chance beating lebron
How do you train chess? How often ?
I want magnus to play this guy again blindfolded with his “algorithm” fully in function
I’m confused he already beat magnus why should magnus play him again blindfolded
@@MissingOrchid Yeah, plus Max won't even play chess ever again. Tetris is the next step.
magnus playing blindfolded isnt that much different without blindfolded especially if its just 1 game. His visualization is too great.
@@iNFaunTae true but imagine the embarrassment
@@MissingOrchid I'm utterly confused by your comment. Was it sarcasm or did you mean to say Magnus won instead of beat. I don't recall him ever losing to this max person.
"the game is in 3 hours and I have nothing memorized." I laughed so hard.
not a good start tbh
right? like what was he doing this whole time? lol
@@JakeLondonRivers "wiTh oNLy a mOnTh oF tRaiNiNg" more like a month of chilling
@@JakeLondonRivers his video has 9 million views, I think he was just counting money
Lmfao at his comment that he made Magnus “twitch” by a knight move
the twitch was magnus realising he can have dinner early today
The twitch was Magnus cringing at the first out of book move.
Magnus did twitch, but because the move was a so shit he never he saw it before. It was some shit knight move, I remember
That was the dumbest thing. Even after absolutely getting destroyed after modifying his own challenge rules multiple times, he still feels the need to have some sort of "win" and makes that comment. No dude, you never stood a chance. You were wrong. Go back home.
I went to watch Agadmators video on this game and indeed, the Knight move that made him “twitch” was a blunder lmao.
As someone researching deep neural networks and artificial intelligence his statement about creating an algorithm made me feel physically uncomfortable. The bigger accomplishment here would not be beating Carlsen but creating an algorithm that doesn’t need to calculate future lines and only taking the current position as an input, essentially creating a winning strategy.
isnt the 7 piece tablebase like 1TB? he didn't even make a back of the envelope calculation as to how large this would have to be.
The entire approach seems ridiculously naive, from start to wherever he's at now.
I think its is impossible to find tge best move without calculating future lines since we dont usually find best move but the best sequence
It's a San Francisco thing, you wouldn't understand.
Isn't alphazero based on this approach? I don't think it calculates for future lines
There's another video where a guy sets himself a much more "realistic" goal of beating someone rated 1500 USCF in a month. It went about as well as you might expect, but that guy was much, much more humble about it.
That sounds doable for a certain subset of people, to be honest. How far did he get?
@@CalebShimomura I would be SHOCKED if a first-time, adult chess player could get to 1500 that fast. He did far better in his last game (as you'd expect) but he still got beaten fairly easily (as you'd expect)
@@gcollins1992 I mean i'm not saying "I think a lot of people can do this", but I think given a sufficiently motivated, efficiently taught, and relevantly intelligent student (maybe a 99th percentile intelligence), I'd guess that this was an achievable goal.
From what i've heard about the streamer hafu (who went from about 600 to start to 1300 in the space of a month and is apparently an effective learner), it's not outside the realm of possibility that someone could do this.
Again, for the vast majority of people, this is probably not doable. I'm just saying I think it's possible.
@@gcollins1992 dude...i went from no rating to 1800 in a months training...1500 is not hard to get to in a month..if..you know what you are doing....
@@jadezee6316 fide rating or lichess bro lmao
Lol, "I designed an algorithm in a month. I'm pretty sure it'll solve chess in the next few hours, and I'll be able to memorize every possible move in a 60-move game."
What a clown.
Somehow he realized chess was too hard to learn the traditional way in a month, but he didn't realize that memorizing all chess positions wasn't a feasible alternative.
I want to see the code he wrote.
"The first 5 moves are good" - Magnus
Honestly, to have a wide understanding of openings in your first month is both an ambitious and much more realistic goal.
I mean, the first 5 moves are purely theoretical, which ARE memoizable.
Given that the guy was White he could at least force a mainline opening and reasonably memorize the main lines of that, but I think he failed at Move 8.
So his plan was to write a chess engine from scratch in couple hours ... then memorize the top move for every possible position???
Sounds like it. He could have have used Stockfish and start memorizing away. But of course, this stunt is about self promotion so the more outlandish the claim the better in his eyes.
i think so, but (giving him the benefit of the doubt) perhaps a 'smarter' chess engine such that you didn't have to memorise each position but rather learned heuristics to apply (such as open files are good for your rooks etc). obviously that would be incredibly difficult to create (to be accurate) in complex positions but maybe the guy knows something i do
I think his plan was to build an algorithm that can look at any board and decide which side is winning without having to calculate the position any deeper. From there his plan was to memorize the algorithm (not the individual positions). Then he'd just look at the board states and consider one move deep and find through out the game he'd keep looking only 1 move deep until he found a path to a win. His plan was never to memorize each possible position. His plan was to memorize the "brain" of the algorithm so that on the fly he could essentially use the algorithm entirely from his head.
This approach from the outside is logically sound. It may have even worked for a simpler game. But in the end there are two problems. If those 3 problems were solved then his approach would become viable.
Those problems are as follows.
1. Creating an algorithm to decide which side is most likely to win the game based on the board state without looking deeper is insanely hard. The amount of computing time required reaches towards being measured centuries
2. Simply having the algoritm stored on your computer isn't enough. You need to actually memorize the algorithm once your computer has found it. Unfortunately the finished algoritm would be massive in size. Beyond the scope of human memorization even if you had your entire life time to study it.
3. Even if he had all the time in the world I'm not convinced that his computer could physically store the completed algorithm. The space on the harddrive would run out.
His approach is worth thinking about again. In the year 2500 when we have supercomputers that can fit in a single chip that can be surgically installed into our heads.
@@hamsterfromabove8905 the thing is, managing an algorithm that evaluates a position perfectly without needing to search is akin to solving chess altogether.
@@Diandredofus Like I said. The approach was logically "possible" but practically couldn't be finished in our life time.
Legend has it that his algorithm is still chugging at all the possibilities of the game of chess
That’s not even a joke. Someone linked to his page on Reddit and the last update was a couple of years ago and his algorithm never did finish.
It's called a neural net which is what Stockfish uses. It'll never finish.
the arrogance of this man
Max Deutsch: a man of many things, a master of nothing
Jack of all trades, master of none
@Qimodis master at fooling idiots into paying attention to him....he has no skills abilities that stand out...and he managed about a 1200 performance here.....certainty not inspiring to a keen intellect
@@jadezee6316 all the 1200s are offended
@@thenegotiata Not even... more like a 6/7 of all trades, master of none
There are only two impressive things in this:
(1) How he was able to get Magnus to agree to this
(2) How he was able to prove that delusions have no boundaries
Chess is not a skill. Chess is a set of skills. Had he realized that before, we would not be cringing.
I don't think that's an accurate description of the problem. I think we can all agree that playing the violin is a skill but clearly it's ridiculous to claim being able to play in a classical symphony as a complete beginner after one month.
The main problem is that his scope is completely wrong. All his other achievements were on a much lower level. What be tried was equivalent to learning a triple backflip or solving a rubik's cube in 5 seconds, which as you can probably imagine, takes exponentially more effort, and is probably not even something every human can learn. Actually, those things are probably still easier than beating Magnus, since that basically requires starting very young. Chess is simply a much more difficult game and on top of that beating the world champion is pretty much the ultimate challenge in that already difficult game.
The problem is mastering a skill is not the same as beating the best in the world. If he used that same criteria he hasn't technically mastered anything. He can do 40 pull ups but the actual #1 record is probably much higher he might be able to do a backflip but some people can do standing double backflips. If he said mastery of chess = some rating it would have made more sense than being able to beat magnus.
@@erniepombo323 I agree. I think most of his other achievements were being better at a particular activity than 95-99% of people (e.g. developing perfect pitch, which only around 1% of people possess innately). In chess, that would probably translate to an elo of around 1400, which imo would be a realistic target for him.
@@erniepombo323 His pull ups were cheating, he didn't do single one pull up. He just wiggled on a bar like a complete fool
Very insightful point.
He didn't come up with a chess engine
He wrote a program, which creates an algorithm.
Which solves chess.
On top of defeating the world champion, he wanted to create an AI
If that ever comes to pass magnus will be up for another game
'mastering a skill' is not the same thing as being the best at that skill. Like it's not like he learned to do back flips better than the parkour world champion, it's not like his self portrait sold for millions of dollars. Why did he think that he could be the best at something within a month? His challenge should have been something like: I'll learn how to play chess within a month and then rank not last in a local club tournament or something.
and even that might be too much
Video: "but for Max, the challenge may not be over yet"
Chess world: oh it's actually over
2:37 "I think they paid him." Danya with the ROASTS!!
How is that a roast?
don't think you know what a roast is lad
Guys, the point is the only reason Magnus is doing this is because he got paid. I apologize it is not your stereotypical roast.
it is a roast. if the guy was an actually good player, magnus would probably have played him free of cost. But, cause this guy is cringe, magnus had to be paid lmao
I've only seen this level of naivete once when I went to a Japanese course. A group of friends though that they would go from absolute 0 (they didn't even watch much Japanese media) to paid translators in 6 months. Obviously in a few weeks they realized how much effort it takes and they gave up in less than 3 months.
Being able to speak two languages (fluently and without errors) is still a long way from being able to translate between them.
My native language is Mandarin, but I still cannot efficiently translate between English and Mandarin. It requires dedicated practice after learning the languages to translate between.
@@jerrytu0916 It might be harder to translate between English and Mandarin, than between English and Romanian. I've done plenty of reports that were just my translation of some wiki page or report to Romanian, was relatively easy to me.
Either way, reaching fluency in a language that's completely different from yours should take years and reaching a level that you can use to do paid translation should take an extra amount of years. Way harder than their expected going to a casual course and maybe working an extra hour or 2 per week for 6 months.
@@jerrytu0916 Your English is extremely good, I wish I had the drive necessary to take on a second language.
I guess if you had access to a dictionary and were exclusively translating from Japanese into english (written) it would be possible, but I cant think of anyone that would pay for someone that essentially just knows basic grammar and has lot of free time
@@danjor5749If you live in Europe it’s pretty normal to be fluent in your native language and English. That’s mainly because English is easy to learn and also because you watch so many things in English (RUclips, movies if you want to).
I am going to become a professor of French by learning it in a month .
It's probably much more doable than beating the chess WC, depending on the languages you already speak.
Bonne chance!
Still easier, there are many more than just one professor of French
I actually learned some French for a month and I can say that
Je parle français comme la vache
Awesome content idea! Would enjoy watching more of Danya reacting. GMHikaru does it, and it's a success on his channel.
when I saw it I could not stop laughing lol. I had to post this.
I would have like a guy like ben finegold roast that Max deutch
@@larseunic Ben Finegold has such a remarkable sense of humor.
But gmhikaru doesn't do any educational content
@@195achmadmaulana4 okay, let's keep going.
Also the fact that he basically procrastinated until the very last moment before making any real progress...
What are you talking about, clearly all his time was spent on writing this genius program to find the perfect algorithm. If only he'd have had a little bit more time for it to complete 🙄😂🤣
What probably happened was that he didn't realize chess was hard spent most of his time trying to learn chess the normal way, wasn't able to cross 900 and so with typical tech bro arrogance tried to recreate the alphazero/leela evaluation function but grossly underestimated the size of the model he would need to memorize for it to be even remotely accurate.
Not to mention even the neural net engines need to go through the search tree and can't solely spit out the position with the best evaluation
@@siddharthamishra1999 a brief effort to determine what had been accomplished in this field by others - even just a google or wikipedia article on the topic would have shown him what hubris his undertaking was. But I guess he didn't bother because he knew he could do it so much better by himself.
This is the best video I can think of for Daniel to react to. Daniel’s the perfect kind of educated and accomplished person that can fully appreciate the absurdity of this video.
I mean there are so many layers of absurdity in this guy’s approach that it’s hard to figure out if it’s all an onion article
That is the most rage inducing video on all of YT.
Him bragging that the first 5 moves were good is like bragging that you kept up with a marathon runner for the first minute.
This is every tech bro. "How could mere mortals stand a chance when I have a f**ing computer?"
Man if only they had given a true chess amateur the chance to play magnus over the board. A 1700-1800 would appreciate that so much more.
One thing I learned is that Daniel gets very different targeted RUclips advertising to me...
A fucking plane mate, what are Danya's investments?! Then again, I don't see ads at all.
It pissed me off. My government likely paid for that ad.
I was expecting a follow up reaction on the april fools of agadmator, but I guess that's the reason it's in the highlights again
He thinks learning a backflip in a month is comparable to beating the World Chess Champion in a game.
It took him a month to learn how to back flip.He isn't that swift if it took him that long.
His sarcasm at "really? I didn't know that!" was so funny
no matter how many times i see his video im still dumbfounded by his plan. not only did he spend a month doing nothing on something thats already available to everyone, he also thought he could.... MEMORIZE ALL OF CHESS?
I subscribed to Daniel's channel after he said "This person could only live in San Francisco." haha
Can you explain that one? Are people generally delusional there or what?
@@ojasdighe991 probaby some stereotype
@@ojasdighe991 Probably a combination of the hubris and over-confidence of a young SF tech-worker combined with his "solution" of using trying to use tech to solve the problem.
This is basically equivalent of wanting to play a Rachmaninov concerto after learning Piano for one month.
It is even worse. He would have thought he will play rach concerto better than lugansky xD
I love how down-to-earth Danya is. Would love to get that guy to a dinner party.
"i didnt lose i just ran out of time", delusional
This is even funnier when you realize that magnus refused to play the world championship match but played this guy
Logical progression. Memorise a deck of cards, rap, do some pull ups and then of course, solve chess in one month.
There’s nothing wrong with challenging yourself to implement and advance new skills under strict time constraints. Seems like a fun and productive thing to do. What makes him instantly unlikeable is that he has so arrogantly underestimated the complexity of chess and overestimated his ability to learn as a supercomputer would. If he’d challenged himself to last a certain number of moves against Magnus or to defeat a 1500 rated player etc, I’d have no issue with it. Even that would require an exceptional degree of talent. Did he not wonder why chess tournaments offer such sizeable cash prizes... why the game is widely regarded as a measure of intellect and cunning...
This is a really arrogant and snobby comment. Firstly, chess has little to do with intellect and more to do with memory of chess patterns and visualisation.
Secondly, you can’t expect someone new to the game to understand its depth.
Honestly, get off your high horse.
@@SuperYtc1 I knew long before I started playing chess, that I wouldn't be able to master a game with some crudely conceived 'algorithm', in a matter of months, to defeat actual geniuses who've dedicated their lives to it. Also, I like how you ignored everything else I said and just chose to mention my use of the word "intellect" at the end. You're clearly just looking for an argument. It is you who needs to get off your high horse - nothing I said was unfair or unreasonable.
@@BaresEatBeats Everything you have said is unfair and unreasonable. My comment refers to your whole comment, not just the intelligence part. The modern chess world is sick of people like you, who gatekeep and think you're so intelligent for playing a board game.
I applaud Max for putting himself out there and creating something entertaining. You, sitting on your PC and crying over something trivial I have no respect for at all. Chess is a board game, and Max is just someone having some fun. Get over yourself.
@@SuperYtc1 OP's username is nidiot but is still smarter than you'll ever be.
Max Deutsch just proved the one thing that most people find it really hard to understand: Chess is EASY to LEARN, but (extremely) DIFFICULT to MASTER.
Michelle Khare - Takes the time and effort to study games and train for months to learn from her mistakes, takes notes from her teachers, and is aware of how hard chess can be. She’s also aware that Magnus is Superman at chess.
Maxxy - Doesn’t realize the kind of level Magnus is at, tries to upload the billion games he planned to memorize to “beat” Magnus, thinks he made Magnus “nervous” on the 8th move, and blamed his computer for failing to upload those billion games for him to memorize.
You should react to agadmators video about Magnus retiring from chess in which he defeats Magnus in a rematch :)
Agadmator got me a little bit
It’s clear he got the idea to this video from Agadmator’s video.
@@abijahkishretamal8322 youre not really smart then
@@xoranginho Pretty much, then I noticed it's April 1
loses to checkmate: so unfortunately I lost on time
lol i love the quiet "this is horrible" in the background
I have given myself one month to learn how to play the game of basketball, and then defeat LeBron James in a game of one on one.
That's more doable than beating world champion in something less physical, you could be tall and muscular and defeat LeBron, but beating Magnus in a chess match? Nah.
@@4cer356 le bron has literally done this for his entire life. you think some random guy, altho muscular, can beat the guy in 1 month? Huh i wonder why everyone who's like 6 foot 5 doesnt do that.
@@ultimatedoug2227 LeBron is 6'8 so probably even 6'5 people don't have chances
@@ultimatedoug2227 also I never said it will be easy, it's definitely doable if you have super genetics and are taller or equal to LeBron, but no matter how good your pattern recognition is or how fast you can study, you will never defeat Magnus with just a month of training, hell, even if you have played chess before and you are like 2500, you still won't be able to beat Magnus with just a month of training, but for example G-League player just might have very slight chance at beating LeBron 1 on 1
Legend has it the man's school laptop is still crunching the numbers.
i love Daniel's toxicity in this video it was very satisfying
@Qimodis Alcohol and oxygen are both very toxic and very satisfying.
Nice! I originally brought up this video during the stream (nimsandwich on Twitch)! Was stoked that he actually played it
Underrated quote: That’s the important part, he plays simuls.
Lol it's not even the attempt for me...it's the audacity.
That's hilarious comparing beating the chess Grandmaster to learning a standing backflip 😅
That's one of the easiest tricking techniques to learn. The more appropriate comparison would have been to win redbull art of motion or something
the takeaway from this video is : Learning a new skill every month is impressive. Mastering it is something else.
I remember someone in facebook saying he could've won against Dubov's Game of the year last year lmao, some people really have no idea
You don't know how much you don't know I guess lmao 😂
I remember this guy. He's just another nutter planning on selling his "method". I think he always knew he was never going to win this game, but couldn't resist the free exposure. I'm sure he's still on his Patreon, telling people that if they take two cold showers a day, they will be able to levitate, or whatever garbage he's selling.
It's clear he didn't expect to win, he's a clever guy....
@@bevbo42 IS HE, though? Cus his lie about an algorithm is not a very good lie. I think he underestimated the audience and did nothing but harm to his reputation, with this stunt and his own dishonesty.
@@ashscott6068 light hearted fun I'd say.
Lol Wim hof method is actually great and I do it every day
@Gordon Martin you feel alive
bro your reactions are gold, we need a GMDN Reacts channel
Magnus should have invited him to an open tournament, and if he made it to the finals, then he'd get the shot. You know, like everyone else on the planet.
I love how Magnus roasted him about the algorithm and how it went completely over the guy's head.
So I went digging and actually found a blog post by Mr. Deutsch himself and I was curious to see what he said about the game. Here's an excerpt:
FAQ2: Did you think you were going to win?
I never thought I was going to win. In fact, this was the entire premise of this challenge: How could I take what is an impossible challenge (i.e. if I trained using a traditional chess approach, I would have an effectively 0% chance of victory), and approach it from a new angle. Perhaps, I wouldn’t completely crack the impossibility of the challenge, but maybe I could poke a few holes in it, making some fascinating headway and introducing some unconventional ideas along the way. This was more an exploration of how you approach the impossible than anything else.
While I made decent and interesting progress towards this alternative approach, it wasn’t quite ready by the time that I sat down for the game with Magnus. So, barely having learned normal chess, I sat down to play the game as a complete amateur.
Thoughts, Danya?
Seems like he's blowing smoke up his ass
He definitely seems more humble here but still, the idea that he can introduce some unconventional ideas to a game over 1000 years old after a months training is still very silicon valley .
@@thomaskershaw3050 This was my interpretation too.
The guy thought that he made Magnus nervous during his first 8 moves. Don't pay attention to that, "I'm just giving it my best, that's how we improve sappy, saving face generic speech."
"I can do a back flip so now I'm going to beat the chess world champion". Lmao, if he had won an Olympic gymnastics event with only a month of experience, then maybe I'd believe him
If he had actually spent an honest month studying chess it would have been more interesting.
I started varying my chess video intake, after my usual outlet had a bit of a scandal recently. Daniel is pretty chill, I like his commentary
Danya: Of course this guy lives in San Francisco. He fits the silicon valley stereo type so well he doesn't even try to hide it
Me (Who lives in SF too): Uhhmm.. what stereotypes exactly? haha..ha *sweats nervously*
@Qimodis ahh, this makes sense, thx for the explanation!
Don’t think he meant anything as negative as these comments make it. He just fits that pseudo-tech guy with a naive idea which we assume SF has tons of for every Steve Jobs they produce. Either way, Magnus seemed to have enjoyed the experiment. Whatever “disrespect” he had, he sure learned his lesson. What we can get from this, is the irony of chess being full of people with superiority complexes which turned a video we can have a laugh at and scroll into a circlejerk.
We need more reactions like this! Good content and you also get more views
He should have pick checkers, might have a higher chance of winning
The point of the experiment was that he didn't have any chance of winning. Checkers is already a solved game, so there would be no point.
@@SeeMyDolphin I don't think there's a chance he would have beaten the world champion in checkers either. Chess is obviously a more difficult game but the main problem is his scope. Beating the world champion is not the same as doing a backflip or learning to do the rubik's cube in 20 seconds. He'd have to do a triple backflip or solve it in 5 seconds for it to be even remotely comparable and as you can probably imagine, those are all things that are exponentially more difficult and take way longer to learn or are even impossible for most humans.
@@1vaderMy point is that Checkers is a solved game, so there would be no need to for him to approach the challenge from a novel perspective. If you play first in Checkers, you're guaranteed to win as long as you don't make any mistakes, so he would just need to learn how to do that.
The point of his experiment was to give himself a seemingly impossible challenge with no known solution, so that he would be forced to come up with a brand new method of learning something. With Checkers he wouldn't have to do any of that, because we already know how to play Checkers perfectly.
@@SeeMyDolphin I mean, I don't believe it's possible to memorize the way for checkers either, right? If he just wanted to memorize positions, he could have just memorized what stockfish gave him. What he wanted to find is a memorizable algorithm to beat the world champion which I don't believe exists for checker either? Though I wouldn't know since I don't know much about checkers.
But it seems to me that finding such a thing for checkers would still be pretty amazing, even if it would sound much less impressive and not have nearly the same publicity impact, if any at all.
@@SeeMyDolphin Also, wikipedia says checkers is always a draw with perfect play? I think you are confusing it with connect four?
The biggest takeaway I learned from this is: Don't use the word "master" lightly. You can "learn" a skill, like doing a backflip. But it takes many, many years of hard work to achieve the title of "master". There's a HUGE difference between saying "He learned how to do a backflip" versus "He's mastered gymnastics to the point he's as talented as Simone Biles".
My biggest issue here is this guy is using the term "learning" and "mastering" inter-changeably. Not to mention, it's extremely naïve to call yourself a "master" at something; it should always be others who call you a master at a field.
Im shocked magnus didnt offer to play blind fold.
Thats a huge victory for max
Magnus should have phoned in his moves whilst doing a full week's shopping.
A jack of all trades, master of none.
When I first saw this Max Deutsch video I thought maybe the average person has no idea how good a GM is (let alone arguably the strongest player of all time in his prime no less) but after watching Daniel's reaction I realize it's probably mostly just overconfident tech bros.
It's like beating Usain Bolt with just 30 days of training! 🤣🤣
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This was hilarious. Loved Danya's reaction!
If this guy did this as a JOKE I would think it's brilliant and funny. But he's dead serious. It's beyond cringe...
He "mastered" being able to do 40 pull-ups in a month? That doesn't mean anything! More than half of it comes down to his day 0 form, but even then working up to 40 pull-ups in 30-ish days isn't that hard if that's all your focus for that month.
He "mastered" a backflip. So he learned to do one backflip in a months time? Not to take away anything from his or other real gymnast's achievements, but that is also easy if you are a semi-fit young person. I have seen Juji teach half a dozen people to backflips in less than a day each. If that's your sole focus for a whole month, and you seek out the correct trainer/training material (RUclips tutorials), anyone who really sets their mind to it can do that.
I feel that's all he is. He isn't special in any way, he just really sets his mind to these random tasks. Sure, everyone should learn new skills, I agree with him!
But he's so arrogant about it. So nonchalant about going to try and beat a chess master with less than a months practice. And he wasted that month trying to quote-unquote cheat with a computer algorithm?
All that being said, a show where someone ACTUALLY managed to become a top level athlete in one sport at a time, that would be amazing! A person like this who did 6 months of heavy prep with someone at the top of his field, and more or less could reach for example a top tier baseball player one year, then ice hockey the next year, then chess player. Heck, League of Legends or Counter-Strike player! That'd be an interesting show. But that obviously presumes that he actually succeeded. This jokester wasn't even close to beating the chess master. He should stick to pull-ups or cart wheels...
Daniel you didn’t roasted him enough, he deserves much more proper roasting
As a Chess Amateur and a Programer I can safely say this guy is a total quack. Almost everything he says is complete nonsense.
Taller than Shaquille O'Neal after practicing for a month
I hated that video (the original, not this reaction) because he's so arrogant. After just a month of training he would probably lose to a 1500 player and, obviously, he lost against the (probably) best player of chess in history.