The Fates of the Expendables. What happened to the PT boats of Squadron 3?
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- We're looking at the fates of the six PT boats from Motor Torpedo Boat Squadron Three after their exploits in the Philippines, and why I don't think they get the credit they deserve, despite Hollywood's efforts. Commanded by the legendary Lt. John D. Buckeley the tiny unit of just six boats was tasked with protecting the area around Manila, and then Corregidor Island after Manila was abandoned. The tiny band's efforts were portrayed in the Hollywood movie, "They were Expendable", but there is so much more story behind that script that deserves a closer look, as does the ultimate fates of the 'expendable' boats themselves. Some of the losses of the boats are skipped. While this is not a take-down of the movie, some of the depictions are pretty accurate, and some are sugar-coated. We're going to straighten that out.
Please note that these small unit actions are not usually very well-documented and even less often filmed. There’s a very limited amount of archive footage out there on PT boats, especially since they operated mostly at night, and especially before the tide of the war turned in America’s favor. I’m aware some of the footage I’ve used is post-war, from other Pacific Theater campaigns or from the Korean War. I use these to show the general style and capabilities of this class of boats and decided that’s more useful than showing you the same five clips of period-correct boats over and over. I hope that doesn’t get in the way of the history.
77' ELCO boat specifications:
• Displacement 40 t.
• Length 77'
• Beam 19' 11"
• Draft 4' 6"
• Speed 41 kts.
• Complement 15
• Armament: Two twin .50 cal. Browning M2 machine guns in Dewandre turrets and four 21" torpedoes
• Propulsion: Three 1,200hp Packard V12 3M2500 gasoline engines, three propeller shafts.
Bulkeley's career decorations are listed here again.
Navy Cross
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Medal
Silver Star Medal (Army) with Gold Star
Legion of Merit with Combat “V”
Army Distinguished Service Cross with Oak Leaf Cluster
Purple Heart Medal, Army Distinguished Unit Emblem
French and Philippine Decorations
China Service Medal with bronze star
American Defense Service Medal, Fleet Clasp
Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal
American Campaign Medal
European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal
World War II Victory Medal
National Defense Service Medal with bronze star
Korean Service Medal
United Nations Service Medal
Korean Presidential Unit Citation Badge
Philippine Defense Ribbon
Expert Pistol Shot Medal
Expert Rifleman Medal
References:
www.navsource.org/archives/12/...
www.militaryfactory.com/ships...
www.navalhistory.org/2015/03/...
pacificwrecks.com/ships/ptboa...
pacificwrecks.com/ships/ptboa...
pacificwrecks.com/ships/ptboa...
pacificwrecks.com/ships/ptboa...
pacificwrecks.com/ships/ptboa...
philippinesfreepress.wordpres...
www.amazon.com/At-Close-Quart...
pacificwrecks.com/ships/ijn/k...
philippinediaryproject.com/20...
Chapters:
0:00 Start
1:02 ELCO yard and 77' production
3:30 Deployment to Cavite
4:37 Retreat to Sisiman
7:06 PT-33
8:10 PT-31
9:26 PT-32
12:21 PT-35 Part 1
14:21 PT-34 & 41 vs. Kuma
17:26 PT-34
18:50 PT-35 Part 2
19:21 PT-41
#ptboat #pt41 #macarthur
Robert Montgomery, co-star in the film, was in the Navy during the war. He was also the CO of PT-107!
PT 109.
@@hunterroberts9951
No, PT-109 was John F Kennedy's boat.
@@hunterroberts9951No, the 107. The 109 was under the command of LT jg John F. Kennedy, XO was Ensign Leonard Thom. PT-107 was lost during an attack on Rendova.
My grandfather was a commander in this squadron, and it was his boats that were used in this movie.
I love they fought their Boats, doing their duty and fought till the end. That was what an American was back then, and that was America.
Well said one of the best movies I watch it often
Duke Montgomery Bond
Donna Reed they don't make em like that anymore
I've been a fan of PTs since I was eight years old and saw the movie "PT-109" when it premiered in theaters in the summer of 1963. Adding to that, my wife's late uncle was a gunner's mate on PTs in the Solomon campaign during WWII. "They Were Expendable" remains my favorite WWII movie and is based on the book of the same name. The author had spent an evening interviewing survivors of Squadron 3, though some embellishment was obvious for wartime morale purposes. As films go, it remains a timeless classic, even if the boats used in it were later 80 foot Elcos rather than the earlier 77 foot versions. Thanks for giving us a detailed explanation of the fate of each boat. I wish we could learn what became of the crew members who were wounded and captured. The war was still on when the movie was released in 1945, so it could only hint at something very dark. Lastly, where did you find the music from the movie?
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it! I’m looking into a follow-up on the crews. Not simple. The soundtrack isn’t available on it’s own I’m afraid.
@@LesSharp I consider the movie one of John Ford's masterpieces and I love the soundtrack. I believe there is a background story to the film that would make an interesting documentary in itself. I have read that Ford hired musicians to play the haunting love melody during rehearsals in order to put the actors in the right mood. I've also read there was a lot on tension between Ford and Wayne during filming which was a result of Ford's anger with the Duke at refusing to serve during the war as he and Robert Montgomery had done. Both men had seen combat, but Montgomery held no grudge. In fact, it was he who finally put a stop to Ford's vindictiveness after the latter had brought the Duke to tears during his many attempts to humiliate him on set. Whatever the reason, Pappy relented and his friendship with Wayne survived.
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I actually have "THE" book.
Robert Montgomery got top billing in They Were Expendable. In the movie he was the squadron commander and Wayne was his Exec. It's really a co-lead because Wayne is so.... well.... so John Wayne. Montgomery was a bigger star than John Wayne in the prewar years and at the time of the making of TWE. Wayne's breakthrough was "Stagecoach" in 39. Montgomery had been around for years going back to the 20's. He was an A movie leading man even before the war. He had 2 Oscar nominations for Best Actor before TWE. The first was for "Night Must Fall" - 1937 opposite Rosalind Russell in which he played a psychopathic killer - one of the few nominations for an actor playing a truly evil character. He was cast against type. Previously he had played upper class playboy types in romantic comedies. His second Best Actor nomination was for the lead in "Here Comes Mr. Jordan" released in 41. That one was remade in 78 as "Heaven Can Wait" with Warren Beatty - same basic story. Montgomery also directed parts of TWE when John Ford was ill. Part of what makes that movie what it is is that Montgomery had, to some degree, lived the life of the person he was portraying in the movie.
Montgomery has an amazing bio. Actually it's MORE interesting than John Waynes if you ask me. When WWII broke out in 39 Montgomery in London enlisted in the American Field Service and drove ambulances on the Western front until the Dunkirk evacuation. He returned to Hollywood and played in "Here Comes...". When America entered the war he joined the Navy and rose to rank of Lt. Commander. He commanded PT. 107 and became Ex Commander of PT Squadron 5 operating out the base at Rendova in the Central Solomons.
He might have been he instead of Ronald Reagan who became 40th President had events been different. He served as President of the Screen Actors Guild before Reagan did. He gave friendly testimony before the House Un-American Activities Committee. He was active in Republican politics. The served in a voluntary capacity in the Eisenhower administration as an advisor on TV matters.
And he was Elizabeth Montgomery's dad.
He unfortunately died of cancer as dud his son and daughter. I have the movie on DVD and wore it out and purchased a new one. This video gave me a very good understanding of what the movie was based on.
I saw “They Were Expendable” back in the ‘40s, probably not long after it came out, and have read many accounts of McAuthur's escape but never have known the fate of the boats other than some were sunk. You also included some other details, such as the construction change in the boats that I was not aware of, and more. Thanks for the informative video.
One of my favorite movies. My dad joined the Marines the day after Pearl Harbor. He was in the Pacific Theater.
Your dad is a Hero
My Moms Older Brother join the Marines in 1938. Didn’t come home till after Bougainville. He spend 8 months in hospital before he was assigned to wallops island as part of the security force.
@@thedolphinDog agreed
@@edl617 your uncle is a hero
Interesting. My Dad celebrated his 20th year in the marine corps in 1941. He was at gulags, tarawa, and Saipan. He meet my mom in New Zealand prior to tarawa. I was born in 53 so pretty lucky to be here. I miss them both. Both hero’s.
The bravery of these crews cannot be surpassed.
indeed.
Excellent Les. Clearly the mechanics are the heroes in this one. I love the story of defending the lake with a patrol boat.
No doubt. I'm going over the Packard manuals now and it's a ton of work to keep them running right, IF you have the correct fluids and service parts.
John Ford the director, was responsible for making the movie, " The Were Expendable. " Ford became a Naval Officer in WW2. He was very popular in political circles. He was a great friend of John Wayne.
Ford also filmed the Japanese attack on Midway and was wounded there.
So glad to find your videos. My uncle served aboard PT-337, which took an 8" shell while prowling in Hansa Bay.
I found this very interesting and am a fan of the TWE movie. I had an uncle who ran a PT like boat out of New Guinea picking up downed aircrew for the US. He was a Sargent (I don't know what rank) in the Army. His younger brother was a merchant sailor in the North Atlantic and I think on the Murmansk run although I'm not positive about that. Of course all of these folks are gone now and I have kicked my rear for not talking to them at length and even worse not knowing what to ask. It took me many years to realize how much incredible history I was around and missed finding out about. Please keep up the good work. We need more than ever to remember freedom ain't free. Thanks!
Thanks! The craft you're talking about were usually known as Crash Boats. Similar to a PT boat but with a lot less explosive ordnance aboard.
I've watched "They Were Expendable" so many times, I've lost count and can just about recite the script. This is a very good follow up to the movie. Well done!
Same, maybe John Wayne’s most historically accurate films
Of course not totally nasty this shows , but much of it was
What a great video. My father bought 1st editions of "TWE" and "Am Guer in the PHIL" and they were among the first books I read. He's gone (died @ 97yo.), I have them now in my WW2 collections. Have the movie on vhs & dvd. Your video really means a lot to me. Thanks.
P.S. I just reviewed your content. Subbed and Liked. Thanks again.
Thanks for the kind words Ray! Great to hear from TWE superfans!
Submariners did not use Mark 8 torpedoes. The PT boats did. Subs used Mark 14 and some older versions. The older ones, either a Mk9 or a Mk10, were still 21 inch diameter so the PT boats could use them, but not the other way around. The Mk8 was a torpedo developed for use in surface ships during WW1 such as old battleships and destroyers. Submarines were equipped with the following torpedo marks during WW2: Mk9, Mk10, Mk14 (steam), Mk18 ( which was battery powered and was a copy of a captured German G4E torpedo supplied by the Brits). Of these, in early 1942 when the action for RON3 was occurring, the subs only had a limited amount of the new Mk14 and perhaps more of the older Mk9 and Mk10. So the PT boats very likely obtained Mk10s from the sub, since the subs saved the few modern Mk14 they had for emergency. (besides, the Mk14 was too long to fit into PT boat tubes). AFAIK, there were not any Mk13 torpedoes used by the PT boats in the early days of 1942, since they are larger in diameter (22.5"?) and would not fit inside the 77ft Elco PT boats 21 inch diameter torpedo tubes.
Thanks very much for the clarification! I know they started out with the Mk8, and I know they later got the Mk13. I just didn't have any info on when! Thanks for sharing!
It was a captured German G7e, which I tell from your excellent knowledge, was a simple typo. 🙂
Question: didn't they use 18" aircraft torpedos later in the war, analogue to what the British did on their late-war Vosper boats ?
@@ottovonbismarck2443 Thanks Otto yes I meant G7e. In my research I have never come across US PT Boats using 18 inch torpedoes. The old tubes were 21 inch diameter and the racks were for the Mk13 which was 22.5 inch diameter. BTW the Mk13 is primarily an aerial torpedo. It may have been technically possible to mount 18 inch torps in the racks but I have never seen nor heard of it actually occurring.
@@allaboutboats The idea may have started from the Vosper boats built for lend-lease that were fitted with the 18" torpedo.
@@BOORAGG Yes that makes sense.
Excellent video. I especially liked the use of satellite images, and the "on this location" video.
There are a ton of places in the Philippines that would be interesting to do a "Then vs. Now" comparison.
One of the best videos on any WW2 topic. Subbed!
I'm sure I don't deserve that compliment, but thank you very much!
Thank You for taking the time to research all this and put the truth out there. I had heard a little of this and that in several books, but you put it all together for me. Great Job.
Glad you found it interesting! Check out my other videos!
Nice work. Thoroughly enjoyed that!
Much appreciated!
very well done! I appreciate all the work you've done researching this :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lt. John D. Buckeley
Earned the
Medal of Honor
French Croix de Guerre
Navy Cross
Army Distinguished Service Cross with Oak Leaves
Legion of Merit
Two Silver Stars
Two Purple Heats
Philappine Silver star
My father was a PT boater, on 298 He said it was a somber day when they stripped and burned the hulls after VJ day.
When I was at Surface Warfare Officer school in Newport RI I saw Admiral Bulkeley
at a restaurant about 1984.
He was well past normal retirement age and was head of INSERV.
Yep, he was also known to go aboard a ship due for an INSURV dressed as a shipyard worker to get a look around prior to the actual inspection.
I know this for a fact because it was in 1984-85, that I spotted him among a group of yard workers checking aboard at the quarterdeck of the Fast Frigate I served in.
The Admiral saw that I recognized him, he gave me a conspiratorial grin and a wink, I didn’t dime him out. 😏
Ship passed the INSURV and I was left with a fond memory and a sea story.
All for the best of the service in general. Nothing I hate more than a show being put on to fool the higher-ups. It always comes back to bite you in the end.
Awesome effort... loved the movie and your work has provided valuable context
Excellent Commentary! I’ve been to some of the places depicted in this video.
Thanks for all the details. TWE is my all time movie, I just got the blu ray version and they did right. Your right the fact that they didn't sink the cruiser takes nothing away from the film, but serves to prove there bravery even further. I think that's one of the most important times of the war. They knew they were there to hold and buy time for as long as they could, knowing that most likely they'd never see home again. I don't like remakes but here's a movie that just begs to be redone with the Facts. Thanks again look forward to more.
Great Video, very nicely done! Thanks for posting! Videos like this make RUclips worth it. Best Regards from Alaska!
Thank you very much! High praise indeed!
I just found out that early PT boats were stationed in Alaska during the war. They really got around!
Very nicely done! informative and educational as well. thank you
Thanks for putting this work together. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
This video has much information I never heard or read before. Also the war footage is fantastic, and the dialogue is on point. Sound quality? ...sound quality...
You got what you paid for
Good work with the music soundtrack. Very well done. The rest too, but, the soundtrack deserves mention.
Hi, One of my favorite movies. Thank you for this video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice job. Always been interested in the PT boats.
Thanks 👍
One of the best improvement to the boats, was when the torpedo tubes were replaced by the same depth charge launching system on destroyers. It lightened the boat and eliminated the flash that came with the tubes. Of course, the boat captains and helmsmen had to practice the art of turning the opposite away from the torpedo track during the initial launch
Yes indeed, the flashes were a dead giveaway to the enemy. I think in both cases, the skipper had to point the torpedo at the target point, not the boat, and yes, he would want to keep turning away from the torpedo after firing it, for obvious reasons.
Great story and information. I never knew a lot of what you presented.
Excellent video.....now I have to watch "The Duke" again to fully understand the "Expendables" thank you for putting together this video.
Thank you. Glad to have given you a reasonable excuse to rewatch this classic movie!
Excellent vid. Thanks for posting it
Glad you enjoyed it!
I absolutely love P.T. Boats, as well as submarines, and destroyers, and naval maritime history is my favorite! It's nice to know what happened to these glorius boats and their crews! Thanks
They say they were made of plywood because they were actually made of strips, or plys of wood running in different directions and in several different layers. Technically a mosquito airplane was made of plywood also but the plywood was different layers of wood bonded together over a mold and framework, kind of like a PT boat.
Yes. In both cases they are a laminated construction, but while all plywood is a laminated construction, the opposite is not true. I can't imagine how many 4x8' sheets of 3/4" marine plywood you'd need to build a boat this tough, and how little room would be left inside!
Excellent video. Thank You for sharing this information with us.
Thanks for coming by!
Didn't see the movie
this video was excellent
Thank You !
informative video, thanks for posting
The PTs used in the movie "They Were Expendable were two 80' Elcos and four 78' Huckins PTs.
Incredible boats, crewed by a bunch of tough bastards. Keeping those engines alive in those conditions must have been hell.
Excellent history lesson. Thanks so much. Thoroughly enjoyed it. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
thank you for keeping all these HEROES' memories alive.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a marvellous story. Although Death could come at any moment, it must have been exciting to be a Crew Member.
I’m sure it was one fire in the paint locker after another ;)
I had an Aunt who was a dietician who worked in a service hospital during the war.
Way later, when as a kid, I told her it would've been one of my top choices....she shook her head then told me the stories of how the crews on the MTBs raiding across the Channel and the North Sea literally had their guts churned into chowder by being hammered by the hours of the staccato chop of the sea.
Excellent video. I really learned alot.. Thanks
Thanks for the compliment!
Great presentation, thank you…!!!👍
Fantastic vid, sir. Thanks for sharing appreciate it a lot.
Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.
Thanks very much for your time!
A very interesting and informative video. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well done indeed. The use of Herbert Stothart's haunting score in the background was a nice touch.
Thanks! It is indeed beautiful. Too bad it was never released as a movie soundtrack.
The gallant bravery displayed by the crews of those PT Boats led by LTJG's and Ensigns , they were fearless and had balls of steel on those Mahogany Boats ! They carried on board four Mark 8 torpedoes to kill ships ( cruisers , destroyers , etc. ) and the element of speed to get them out of harms way. Futhermore, thanks to the three Packard V12 engines the PT Boats could acheive well over 40 knots in an escape dash. Defensive protection from Japanese air attacks was provided by the following , a Oerlikon 20 mm cannon and if lucky they would rig up a Bofors 40 mm or a Olds 37 mm cannon on the stern and two twin fifties mounted on a swivel ring in nothing more than something that resembled a partially cutout oil drums on each side of the boat. One slightly fore and one slightly aft. And yes , they were expendable !! Some may call it suicide missions 😢 Respect to all Motor Torpedo Squadrons that fought in the Pacific. 🇺🇸👍
Amazing the boats could still go those speeds, given the weight they had to drag around!
They had that wonderful plaining hull and when the (3) V12 kicked its power in , she would get up and move. Some Boats made 45 knots lightly loaded.
Indeed. The ELCO prototype PT-20 did 44.1kts with a light load-out during the famous 'Plywood Derby' of 1941.
My girlfriend bought a shoebox of odds & ends for $20.00 at a yard sale. Inside was a PT Boat Pin and Army Air Force wings. I insisted on going back to see if more WW II items were available. She couldn't remember how to find the house !!
The only times PT boats were able to make 40-50 knots were when they were brand new and not loaded with weapons. Normally the boats had to have their hulls scraped free of barnacles on a regular basis. Otherwise they were barely able to outrun Japanese destroyers.
McHale agrees.
Yeah, he said he couldn't get up on his skis with a full load-out aboard, and the 1st mate complained there wasn't enough room on the foredeck for all the girls to sunbathe. War is hell eh.
First book I ever read that didnt have pictures and one of my favorite movies.Bulkley was CO Guantanomo Bay when My ship did a refresher training stint there. I never saw him though. Woe betide the Boat officer that rocked his saiboat moored near the fleet landing. My dad saw them filming the movie in the Miami River when he was attached to PC 608 during the war.
Very Good Les Just the right length.
very good!! thank you.
Brilliant thank for your work - TWE is one of my favourite films! i did'nt know it was based on a true story
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
The Kuma was a light cruiser of the Kuma-class. As I recall, the cruiser depicted in the equivalent segment of the movie was a Mogami-class heavy cruiser. Quite a difference!
" Gee-Haw! "
Considering all the random Allied tanks painted up as Tigers in Hollywood movies, I think they did quite well to actually have a Mogami, if that's what it was!
Bludy exceellent vlog m8. Added Sisaman to my list. Just got the John Wayne movie DVD from EBay Good movie, did nuthin to fill in any holes but. Finding as much difficulty tracing Officers as tracing my Grandfather. You would know from the movie 2 got on a plane, and then off again to go somewhere. Thanks, keep up the good work, you and yours stay safe and well.
Thanks for your encouragement!
In the movie "They Were Expendable", they used Elco 80 footers. The boat that is burning in the waves is obviously a mock-up of a Elco 77 footer. The crewman is carrying a poll mast which is from a 77 footer. The 80 footers had a triangular mast. I guess the production crew made a mock up of the right type of boat for this scene, but it was not consistent with the rest of the movie.
the John Wayne movie call They Were Expendable also starred Robert Montgomery. many people do not know that Robert Montgomery actually served during the war on a PT boat as a commander. if you ever see the movie while Montgomery is on the boat, you can see how connected he is with that boat because he actually ran one! tomorrow is June 6th D-Day. all day long they will be showing movies of the greatest Generation that ever went to war. God bless my father and all my uncles and all of the brave men and women that sacrifice during World War II!❤
Yes, I am sure the scenes where he's at the helm and the background is live action do indeed feature him driving the boat. I doubt the studio would have found anyone with more experience at the helm, and insurance wasn't such a big issue in those days.
And john Wayne stayed home and made movies... putz
Channel. Thank you for your research. I read the book years ago, one of my favorite books and films.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You should do a video about the Australian "Z" Special Force operations to sink Japanese shipping in Singapore
There is a really good movie about it, from memory I think it's called "Heroes"
I will check that out! Thanks for the tip!
@@LesSharp There is a book written about this.
Good idea, Z Special Force also has a connection to PT boats. They helped evac JFK and his crew out of danger after they were sunk in action. It would be a great yarn.
@@geoffheard5768
Z Special Force did many things they had their own small fleet including the captured Japanese fishing boat the "MV Krait" and a Chinese Junk and other small vessels I think they were mostly named after snakes The Krait was used on their mission to Singapore Harbour it droped members of Z Force on an island near the Harbour and using kayaks they successfully attack Japanese shipping in Singapore Harbour and returned
In ways it's comparable to Doolittle's raid where they took the fight deep into Japanese occupied territory
The Krait itself is an interesting story it was Japanese and impounded in Singapore or Malaya and was commandeered by this local super hero and used it on numerous evacuation runs in and out of Singapore like a one boat Dunkirk before sailing to Australia and still exists
The fella the super hero was lost on a pointless one man clandestine operation
I haven't watch the old film PT-109 for years and couldn't remember the connection to Z Force but I wouldn't be surprised
I first saw the movie in the mid 60's at the drive-in with my father a WWII veteran who more than likely couldn't have survived himself without Z
@@LesSharp
I'm full of suggestions 👍
I have a copy of it and watch it 3 or 4 times a year . gotta love those 80 ' elcos!
Thank you for that enlightening, though depressing update on the actual disposition of MTB3.
I'd call it sobering rather than depressing, and I find it somewhat inspirational how these guys conducted themselves in the face of insurmountable odds. They could have just followed the officer corps south and made up any old story they liked.
I remember back in the 60s a converted PT boat was used as a tour boat on Bass lake in central California. You hear the roar of those massive engines. I do not know the fate of it.
I live in California. Was that boat call PT JOE.
@@coleparker I really don’t remember. That would have been in the late 50s and 60s.
I can't imagine how frustrating it all must have been.
Every time I think, 'my job is shit', I think about what these guys had to deal with.
@@LesSharp
I got cold eggs every morning while visiting a friend and thought how a Wermacht soldier on the eastern front would give his left nut for cold eggs.
I enjoyed the movie and of course John Wayne who was very pro military and always enjoyed making movies about all branches of the US Military. Thanks for your video and giving us the rest of the story about these brave sailors and their heroic deeds. You can never depend on Follywood, specially today, to portray our military accurately and with respect.
Glad you enjoyed it! I have a few more vidoes on the PT boats of WW2 if you're interested, and a few more in the works.
In another few months, the movie "Devotion" (based on the Adam Makos book) will finally be released. I'm praying that Follywood as you so aptly put it, will not turn it into a woke diatribe and insert all sorts of Leftist messages. Well, one can hope, right?
John Wayne liked to play act a war hero, but unlike Jimmy Stewart and other Hollywood stars, he never actually wore the uniform.
@@the-expendable Yes, thank you Captain Obvious. Enough shitting on John Wayne, he was given a waiver, end of story.
Yeah, John Wayne was pro military up to the point of ACTUALLY SERVING, then not so much. Something John Ford never let him forget.
Dad joined Navy in January 1942 he was in Pacific, he didn't talk much about the war
in the book more hardships were described. poor baby macarthur was seasick the whole way. i will never forgive him for running down American WW1 veterans of the Bonus Expeditionary Force with sabres drawn. all they wanted was their due.
one fairly unsung hero of the south Pacific was, of course, The French Chef, Julia Child. she was secret keeper of all movement in the South Pacific, being the assistant to Colonel Donavan, who headed up the OSS. she would later carry public television on her back (and wallet) for years. Thank You Julia.
MacArthur disobeyed a direct order from his commander, President Hoover, not to cross the bridge over the Anacostia. Under Mac was eager beaver George Patton, to lead the charge against veterans and their families in the encampment.
Yes, Bulkley's book is well worth a read. As you say, lots of hardships that are barely touched upon in a 2:15 movie, so way too much for RUclips's attention span.
Have the movie, expendable good movie to watch, old school cinema 🎥 👌 thanks for this video
My grandfather was the captain of PT 117, and two other boats. I think his were Higgins. He was out in the Aleutian’s and he was in charge of delivering them
Navsource has PT-117 as an ELCO 80' boat. www.navsource.org/archives/12/05117.htm so perhaps the other boats were Higgins models. I did another video on the PT ops in the Aleutians you might find interesting.
At the ship yard in Bremerton wa PSNS during the 60s they still had some PTs siting around
They were a failure at what they were designed to do. They were they were initially feared by the Japanese because they thought they could launch real torpedoes like the ones they had. They were fast in calm water but a destroyer could run them down in rough seas. They ended up being utility boats and the place where they proved strategically important, after ditching the torpedoes and going with larger caliber guns and radar, was as armored barge busters at night when the Japanese resupply barges moved. "The efficiency of the PT boats at sinking the Japanese supply barges was considered a key reason that the Japanese had severe food, ammunition, and replacement problems during the New Guinea and Solomon Island campaigns, and made the PT boats prime targets for enemy aircraft." Reporting that would be a good movie as those armored barges knew how to shoot back.
Yep, there's a couple of videos focused on ops around the Pacific where they did much of that barge -hunting.
I read about the PT boat war , great stuff.
Love that movie. It amazingly fairly closely follws the book.
And where it doesn't, you can see the motives of the script writers are benign. I don't blame them a bit for the parts left out or embellished.
Huge respect for the PT crews. Bravo Zulu gents.
Did I miss where you mentioned that the guy that played Buckeley, Robert Montgomery, was the Commander of PT107?
You didn't miss it. I didn't know! Thanks for that tidbit!
@@LesSharp Montgomery commanded PT-107 in Europe, during D-Day for sure, and, I believe during Operation Dragoon, the invasion of Southern France, later that summer.
Montgomery suffered a number of 'episodes' during the filming of this movie, flashing back to his actual wartime experiences since they had been so recent. Director John Ford never said an unkind word to Montgomery and delayed filming a number of instances at significant expense to allow for the war hero's trauma and recovery.
When John Wayne said something at one time about the delays Ford gave a stern rebuke in front of the film crew to Wayne, his life long friend, commenting that the 'movie' war hero had never served in combat and therefore couldn't understand. (Wayne received a waiver because he had four children below the age of five when the war started.)
Ford held a temporary commission in the Navy for filming purposes and was at Midway Island on June 4, 1942 during the Japanese aerial attack, pretty much exactly like his efforts were portrayed in the recent movie, Midway.
Wow, great sidebar! I had felt Montgomery's performance in the movie a little wooden at points. This might explain why. Thanks for the info!
@@TedVinz7 I did not know Ford was on Midway. The actual footage I've seen for many years of the ground attacks and return fire always looked professionally done, but I thought it was USN combat cameramen. Thanks for that..
Navsourse puts Lt. Montgomery in the SWPA in command of PT-107 "Black Magic" in July of 1943.
I have a Chris Craft 1959 ski boat and have sat and counted the screw bungs. The building of wooden boats amazes me.
There’s an entire 25 minute promotional film produced by ELCO made late in war, showing most of the production process.
WE HAD A 63 FT. A.V.R.,,,V DRIVE BACK IN THE 70'S...DURING THE WAR SHE HAD 2 HALL/SCOTT DEFENDER V-12'S,,,42 KNOTS...I WAS 15YEARS OLD AND STOPPING A FUEL LEAK ON THE STARBOARD ENGINE... THE BOAT WAS SO WELL BUILT,,,IT TWISTED LIKE A RUBBER BAND IN OVER 20 FT. SEAS..THANK YOU MIAMI SHIP BUILDING 1941...S.S.S. CHASER...
I met Adm Bulkeley when the INSURV Board inspected USS Coronado (LPD11) in October 1980.
I was station at Mactan AB with the 774th Troop Carrier Squadron [loadmaster C-130] 1967 & 68.
Thank you for your service!
In the late sixties there were two torpedo boats on the East bank of the Mississippi River at Memphis.
They got great gas milage. My ship, USN LHA, got 32ft/gal of JP5.
Thanks! I wanted to know about what actually happened to the PT boats and their men in the Philippines, for half a century. Beer, beer, beer, milk, milk...
Great job. Love to Navigate one down the coast
Me too. Shuddering at the fuel bill though!
Thanks for making this video Les. Are you living there?
Yes I am! The live location footage is from around my area.
@@LesSharp thanks Les. Are you in Leyte ? I have been waiting 2 years to go to Macaurther landing Leyte. I have been to Old Clark AFB hoped to retire there. Hope you are well
No, I'm on Negros Island, near Dumaguete. I've made a nine-part series on the campaign in the Visayas region, Operation Victor. Reports, original footage, site visits... ruclips.net/video/VkPAAyPxfRY/видео.html
This is a history of great heroism. Under difficult circumstances, these seamen did the best thing that they could, to create the maximum damage that they can, by using their under "par" weapon on their enemies, suffering defeat and loss, and move on to another chapter of the battle. These are the story of some of the greatest heroes of World War Two
You need to update Admiral Bulkeley's list of career decorations in your remarks. Admiral Bulkeley was awarded the Medal of Honor for his leadership of MTB Squadron 3 from December 7, 1941, until April 10, 1942. That period of time encompassed a number of successful combat operations against the Japanese and also included the evacuation of General MacArthur from the Philippines.
Done! I don't know how I missed that one! There's a separate video on the evacuations of MacArthur and Quezon btw.
My father and I looked at one for sale in I think the 50's, it was new construction as a off shore fishing boat, we couldn't afford it.
Wow. Just think how much it would cost to run it!
Will there be a video on PT 73 and it's gallant crew.
Thanks for the tip! I am working on a history of what I think is the boat that saw service over the widest area in WW2 right now.
Read The Expendable by John Floyd. It’s the story of a USN Independent Duty Corpsman serving in this squadron. Compelling reading.
My uncle Mike served on the USS Canopus in the late 60's early70's in Bremerton for refit.
Cudos to you I always wondered what happened to those boats
Not far from the Greenville exit of I 79 in PA, there is a weapons development, test , manufacturing, storage area.
20 years ago the storage bunkers, shells of the plants still remained.
Also on a little lake was a building used to test torpedoes.
Does anyone know the history of this facility?
That's very interesting. Must have been pretty scary to go out fishing on that lake eh?
Are you kidding me?
My sister and cousin live in Mercer area
One of the best movies ever!
Fire in the paint locker!
my brotherinlaws father was stationed on PT boat Tender in trinidad south pacific from 42,44 he became a member of the PT boat Sociaty untill he passed away
Absolutely criminal with the torpedo situation vs. the heroics - wasted heroics - these crews were performing. Why are officers and politicians never sent to jail over such bullshit?
Oh, it's not like they didn't sink anything. They certainly had some real successes!
@@LesSharp At the same time, the successes came as a small percentage of the attempts that, had the torpedoes even been marginally acceptable, would have at least warranted PT crews going in on certain death attacks.
Torpedos were still being some what tested on the boats don’t forget.
By design shipmate