Reaction to SABATON - Shiroyama (Official Lyric Video)
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- Reaction to SABATON - Shiroyama (Official Lyric Video)
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By 1877 most firearms have progressed past the muzzle-loading stage that you mentioned. They were generally breech-loaded rifles, so reload speed had become significantly higher by this point, as well as range and accuracy.
1865 end of the U.S. civil war. Military technology exploded with range, accuracy, and the ability to fire multiple rounds.
the biggest difference in military tactics though was a handful of elite warriors trained from childhood to fight 10 average soldiers in sword or gun, vs hundreds of dung covered peasants with a 3 month course in volley fire tactics.
@@kyriss12 quality vs quantity, and at shiroyama quantity won out. And unlike in the movie the last samurai where it shows the imperial ary as being a bunch of ill trained idiots, the real imperial army had recived proper training from western advisors. That's why Saigo actually never won a single battle in the rebellion
They also had Gatling Guns at Shiroyama iirc
People seem to think samurai were opposed to guns. They used them extensively in the singoku period trading with the Portuguese in around 1545, gaining access to matchlock arquebus and cannons. And they did bring matchlock guns to their last stand on the island of Ezo. Just by that time their ancient 16th century styled weapons were no match for the latest British made artillery and cutting edge rifles.
Man this song used to be THE shit, now hardly anyone mentions it with all these new Sabaton songs picking up so much steam
When the new meets the old it always ends the ancient way eh?
The mighty heroes of the past will never be forgotten. We will see to that.
lmao
As you said at the beginning, Sparta and Shiroyama have similar stories as both are from album The Last Stand where all songs are about famous ...well... last stands.
Dave you do understand why most armies stopped wearing any armor at all once gunpowder became a thing? Regular armor can't hold up to gun fire, the amount of armor needed to stop gunfire would be too heavy and would make an army too immobile. Only certain cavalry units retained a breastplate.
Samurai cutting down bullets is pure fiction. It would look more like the scene in Deadpool where he tries just that but ends up blocking little to none, "That's a lot of bullets."
Samurai had already widely adopted firearms fro the most part at that point in favor of more western inspired uniforms, and given up on traditional armor because as you mentioned it did jackshit against riffled muskets.
The major military difference was a handful of elite troupes trained from childhood to outfight 10 soldiers with gun or sword, vs hundreds of dung covered peasants with a 3 month course on volley fire tactics.
The last few battles were sword versus guns because Saigo's men had run out of ammo and powder at that point.
Early muskets couldn't penitrate the most modern armor but by the 1800s armor wouldn't do a whole lot
This song is so amazing, I may be a weirdo here but alot of Sabaton songs bring me to tears and especially this one. Knowing this battle was the death of the samurai forever breaks my heart. But all the men held their honor to the very end and that makes me emotional. I love you man, keep up the amazing work!
Satsuma: "Surrender bruv"
Saigō: "NUTS!"
A front loading flintlock musket takes about 6~8 seconds to reload if you know what you¨re doing. Matchlocks were slower and you had to manage a burning piece of rope while handling black powder which was kinda dangerous. Then there were the wheellocks that had a spinning wheel grinding up against a flint for more sparks which meant the powder ignited more reliably.
Bullets most certainly did not deflect off the armor unless it was at extreme ranges (beyond 40~50 meters i'd say). At 20~30 meters some muskets had enough kinetic energy in the musket ball to be compared to a 7,62mm rifle. True the accuracy was not great and the range was horrible, but the ability to pierce through even english full plate armor and shields is what put an end to armored knights and samurai alike.
by that point riffled breach loaders were already common place, and samurai had ditched the traditional armor in favor of more comfortable western inspired uniforms.
@@kyriss12 some also had rifles and some cannons/gatlings
So you're finally reacting to the unofficial theme for Ghost of Tsushima
🤨 Satsuma Rebellion and Mongolian Invasion are different world events.
@@stynershiner1854 Wasn't thinking about that, just how awesome it sounds and it deals with Samurai, wasn't going for historical accuracy
Total War Shogun 2.
Total war shogun 2 fall of the samurai campaign.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I'm pretty sure the campaign takes place during the Boshin War and not the Satsuma Rebellion but close enough
I love how they potrayed that they prefered to die before handing their culture to the enemy. "Only 40 are left at the end" followed by "None survive Shiroyama", meaning that the 40 survivors commited harakiri before the were defeated.
No, they didn’t do that. Instead they charged down the hill and were shot to death.
I know its a two year old comment but I must say thats not right. Saigō after being mortally wounded, commited unalive with the help of a fellow samurai. Who left charged downhill, and they all died.
Their leader commited suiced. In the end was a handfull samurai left and charged down the hilll to a surten death. So it wasnt evening but sometime med day. BUT the samurais first attack got the enemies to run. But of course, 500 sword vs 30 000 guns. But an honorable death for a samurai
Dave you would make a great history/music teacher. Thanks for doing this one. Keep going.
Though it does say sword against the gun. That's not entirely true. It was yes, but it started off gun vs gun & artillery. Until the Samurai ran out of ammunition. Than, they gathered and made one last final push.
The sad part of this story is that the two leaders were close friend and the whole army had great respect for the Samurai. After the battle had been won. There was no celebration. After all. They had just erased their own culture in favour of the new culture the Americans wanted to instill.
Awesome insight.
A semi-decent comment until you capped it off with framing it as America's fault that the Imperial Japanese wanted to fully take control from the remaining samurai nobles. The conflict wasn't a new one that popped up just because of the United States. Japanese history is full of people trying to centralize power under themselves and then collapsing into civil war and rebellion when others resisted. Tokugawa being the most successful until the Meiji Restoration, the key word there being "Restoration", as they were putting the Emperor back on top instead of the Shogunate. After contact with Commodore Perry the Japanese were eager to take in Western technology and culture to use it to their own ends, the result of that was the Meiji Restoration and the following Imperial Japan and soon to be Empire of Japan.
But sure, I guess you can just erroneously sum that up as essentially "America bad" like a brainlet instead of actually educating yourself.
@@Nyx_2142 I think you commented under the wrong comment.
And in case you didn't. It's not a "america bad" comment. It's history. Weither you agree with it or not doesn't matter. It's what happened. And nothing we do today could ever change that.
@darknessnighthingale6606 At the very beginning, at 4:00 PM, the Imperial army attacked with swords backed by guns, whereas the samurai charged them with mainly swords in order to fight the badly trained sword-bearing soldiers but were forced to retreat under heavy fire. Afterwards it was gun vs. gun until ammo ran out and you know the rest.
Hi Dave, I like your Sabaton reaction videos a lot! You always get to the point. I can always hear Sabaton, but I especially love them live. By the way: It was only through Sabaton that I started to be interested in history.
When you said '40 survived', it meant there were only 40 Samurai left at the final charge/clash of forces at the end of the battle. The next line is 'none alive, none survive, Shiroyama'. They all died in battle.
The Imperial forces on the other hand apparently only lost 30 men!
(killed anyway, I dunno how many were wounded)
and from what I've read the battle started in mid-afternoon and lasted through the night until dawn the next morning, so roughly 14 or 15 hours.
and that last line was 'Culture UNDONE' m8, as in the culture of the Samurai had been destroyed.
I know I am a year late, and you probably won't see it, but they didn't kill just 30 men, when the Samurai got in CQC they did heavy damage
The part that they killed 30 men only was Imperial Japan propaganda.
@@Ocoro_ I saw it. 🙂
Source?
Armor and guns coexisted much longer than oeople give it credit for European armor starting in about the 16th century (1500s) was made to stop bullets. They would be shot to prove they could stop bullets, having a proof mark, hence the term bulletproof.
I'm early! And I wasn't disappointed!! I really appreciate you taking the time, both before and during the video, to look into the subject of the song, since that is really what Sabaton are all about. Keep up the good work!
Bushido never dies, eventho the material disintegrates. Thats the beauty of a mind. You can just evolve.
Sabaton - Carolus Rex.
An old but gold song
My guys out here reacting to Calli AND Sabaton? I love it!
its about the Satsuma Rebellion in 1877 where there was a revolt of disaffected samurai against the new imperial government of japan. Saigō and his remaining samurai were pushed back to Kagoshima where, in a final battle, the Battle of Shiroyama, Imperial Army troops under the command of General Yamagata Aritomo and marines under the command of Admiral Kawamura Sumiyoshi outnumbered Saigō 60-to-1.
Btw this battle was depicted in movie The Last Samurai... a romantized version ofc ;)
Glory in life honor in death.
The letter between the two friends, Saigo and the general, is heart touching and will make you cry. All 500 were killed but out of the 30,000 they managed to kill around 4,000 to 8,000 by having the imperial army come into a fatal funnel where they were cut down easily!
Now! This said, many of them knew how to use firearms as well and were actually really good marksmen with them, including firearms such as a blunder bust that’s basically a shotgun filled with whatever you could put in there.
This rebellion also started during the Meiji Era and the West began to influence the East. Of course this would change in the 1930’s leading into the 1940’s and Hirohito formed an alliance with Hitler and well we all know how that ended up.
Also the Bushido code is a very tragic but beautiful code of which is still honored in modern day Japan. It is a code of respect for your enemy and that you would rather die than be degraded and disgraced by your enemy. If they lost a battle many would commit Hari Kari (I think I spelt it right) as it was. They would stab themselves with a tanto in the left side, pull the blade to the center of their body as you open their guts while a samurai of the opposing army would decapitate them then bow as a sign of respect to the dead and having the “honor” to preserving their opponent’s wishes to die in combat.
Do you have a source for your causality figures? I've seen that the imperials had very few men lost, but I find it hard to believe.
@@ryanabercrombie7966 Uh oh, looks like I'm late to the party. On wikipedia it says around 30 were killed, but let's be honest, 4-8 thousand sounds way cooler.
There's an amazing movie called the last samurai, which sort of tells the story of this final samurai showdown. Incredible movie, highly recommend it.
I love this song so much. The best thing to watch for this is the move The Last Samurai. It's the exact same battle
The survivors committed seppuku at the end.
The movie Last Samurai is based on this scenario. Obviously it’s been Hollywood-ified, but still not bad.
The scene where the samurai leader died, played by the impeccable Ken Watanabe, is heart rending.
Squeals! I have requested this on every Sabaton Video. Thank you. What will I request now?
To Hell and Back? I have requested both of these for a while lol
@@andrewwebb6270 To Hell and Back is a good song but so boring to react to
I'll help you. To Hell and Back!
Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."
And please repent of all of your sins and obey all of God's commands before it is too late 🙏. Amen 🙏
I believe the movie "The Last Samurai," while it presumably had a ton of historical inaccuracies, covers the subject and would give you a chance to see what this would look like in practice.
if you go by the battle shown in the last samurai there is a chance they might already had the hand crank machine gun. then again even if they had those a sound tactic can always win over a superior power. just look at how one canadian soldier single handedly saved an entire town in the netherlands, or how said soldier captured a german batalion just by shouting at their commander xd
One of my favorite Sabaton songs along with Christmas Truce (a new addition) The Last Stand and Uprising.
Also, Samurai didn't use ONLY the swords, they used firearms and used the swords when the guns became useless.
I like that they didn't add Japanese instruments because at the end of the day they were soldiers all the same.
Best example of this is in sabaton song hellfighters referencing the Harlem hellfighters they never once mentioned the men's race because that's not what made them heroes it was a fact that they held out for 6 weeks and hell on Earth with no support is what made them heroes
6 months with no relief unlike other units who would rotate out for rest at times. Even if it’s to a rear line. The Hellfighters didn’t even get that. Just staring down the Germans for 6 months straight. Oh, and if you like that song, listen to Don’t Tread on Me by 1914. Tells the story of Private Henry Johnson, MOH recipient apart of the 369th Infantry Regiment.
Nearly all their songs were covered on the history channel, new album set to come out in march. (according to amazon)
The Boshin War, sometimes known as the Japanese Revolution or Japanese Civil War, was a civil war in Japan fought from 1868 to 1869 between forces of the ruling Tokugawa shogunate and a coalition seeking to seize political power in the name of the Imperial Court.
Fun fact: the samurai practically abandoned their swords when they got a hold of guns only using there swords to commit suicide.
You should do carolus Rex. It’s one of the most evil sounding songs and is really powerful sounding.
King by the grace of God. Defy me and Die
@@markusjongren4098 he wanted everyone to put respect on his name, let it be said crowned by God not by the church as my power divine is one of the lines in music history.
If you want infusion then check out the bagpipes in Blood of Bannockburn lmao
The samurai code death before surrender
Some Historians (left winged) try to explain, that these last samurai just fought for their privileges in the administration. I truly think, that it’s very short thinking. Of course they had a lot of power and influence but they faced their fate very clearly and decided to choose the way of the warrior to set a strong statement for their old values. In my opinion, they knew their time has come and it commands me great respect, that they stand the post until the end. What a great culture.
That is the way to go, on your feet fighting for your honor and principles
“Caroleans prayer” is a must
Shiroyama's cover by Jonathan Young It's Very good
Awesome! Hit Far From the Fame next!
And all 500 samurais laid their life for their religion and emperor. Honorable death!
New way commes in sin is reference to that modernization is preceded by war (often civil war/revolution e.g. French revolution, US civil war, .... ).
the movie " the last samurai" with tom cruse is based off this.
The samurai during this time didn’t just use swords they also used guns because samurai mastered many different weapons
As far as I know samurai run out of ammo, so they forse to go close combat.
Battle last all night after it.
Despite the line "Sword Vs Gun" Samurai had been using Guns since around 1550
They weren’t using guns at the end, they ran out of ammunition
The samurais killed 30 soldiers before they where are gone
Ayyyyyyye I come back from a small hiatus from RUclips to this???? Nice!
FINALLY!
I love watching your sabaton reactions and don't think you should ever feel that you are wrong when trying to interpret lyrics or what to expect from sabaton and their songs. I've been a fan of sabaton for six years and they completely rise above expectations every single year constantly refining what sabaton's sound is. They sound like a tank in the form of music
Kind of interesting how history is repeating itself with some of our oldest traditions and daily requirements being wiped out by AI. Could something like this happen again?
you should watch the sabaton history channel about this song Shiroyama also in bushido code there is no retreat if they do its bring shame to yourself. its just like the other saying DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR .
New age comes in sin means that in order for new age to come old ways must be extreminated and killed. In this case samurais were becoming outdated in a sense.
The most ipressing is some of them was still alive in the evening.
Interesting fact is that it wasn't clear western winning, there's multitude of reasonings of this "war" for example europeans agreed on certain terms of trade and then said "nah".. there was a reason for the samurai to attack the west.. secondly, often overlooked, samurai did also have guns.. but truth is that that was the last fight for bushido and sortition in japan.. those changed soon after west forced trade & westernation
Culture undone
During this battle (not entirely sure) but the imperial army used some American made Gatlin guns (old school minigun)
Now we need To Hell and Back. Unless you've already done that one and I need to go back and look lol
it just rhymes...that's it. Saigo had riffles and shit and quite western stuff but in last moments of battle they went for katanas and shit like that. and he commited seppuku..
Just watch The Last Samurai movie, it's wonderful =)
Some cool Battle between the bands (Sabaton style)
Sabaton - 82nd all the way
Amaranthe - 82nd all the way
Sabaton - Carolus Rex
Follow the Cipher - Carolus Rex
Manowar - Kingdom Come
Sabaton - Kingdom Come
Amon Amarth - Twighlight of the thundergod
Sabaton - Twighlight of the tundergod
This song reminded me of a Power Rangers theme...
another against all odds song that is incredible would be Counterstrike. very fast and metal song
For some reason, this song always makes me think of 40:1.
Bushido Dignified
The japanese troops where poorly trained and of Low Moral. You can watch the movie the Last Samurai with tom Cruise. It is based loosly on this event. Of course with some additions made
There's a awesome movie with Tom Cruise about the event called 'The Last Samurai' If you haven't seen it i would definitely recommend it 👍
samurai arrmour was made out of wood...
at the end it says culture undone not culture of none
Tbh it is true that winged hussars proved that they are more greater than Spartans
Not really, it was a different time and different situation. You can’t really compare soldiers. Early 2000 years apart
@@airsoftpopcorn true, but I'm just sharing what I've heard from some people, though I can't really blame you
Bushido= Bushi(Warrior) Do(the Way) The Samurai armor was mostly made from wood, not metal. That being said the armor could withstand several shots before failure. The greatest sin was that it brought to a close a culture of Honor. AS was said in the old west, "All men were created equal. Samuel Colt(or another gun manufacturer) made them that way."
When u get a chance u should react to sabaton 40:1 its another last stand song like this song and sparta
Could you react to sabaton wehrmacht?
this battle apparently took 7 months to complete, which is much more than I'd have expected, but I may have found the wrong info
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@@whatitdodave Oh Ok