Why Are So Many Builders Cowboys?
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2021
- Roger discusses cowboy plumbers and cowboy builders and looks back at his time on the BBC with Watchdog and Rogue Traders.
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The world needs more people like you Roger
Definitely i totally agree
Although I have never met Roger he is a great mentor! I have watched all his videos and picked up many great tips, methods and approaches. Thanks Roger, keep sharing your knowledge! Great guy 👍🏽
He's bloody brilliant isn't he. So glad he's on RUclips!
Correct
Rogers really coming into his own with this quick topic explanations/rants.
A beautiful thing to see years of wisdom eloquently released through the art of ranting ;)
#rantaway love it
Agreed, another nice wee belter.
I bought an old house about four years ago. The house required a great deal of work done so I started employing builders, roofers, plasterers, etc. It has been a nightmare. I have yet to find a so-called tradesman that can actually do the work. They spend more time bodging the work than it would have if done if they had done it correctly. I am 76 years old and an ex builder so I know if the work has been bodged. There are very few competent tradesmen today due to the lack of skill training. They all want to be paid in the hand and will not accept cheques or cards, only cash. I have ended up putting right their shabby work, which shouldn't happen. What's happened to tradesmen having pride in their work.
I have the same problem, but am a semi retired building surveyor, who initially started on the tools as a carpenter, so know my way around a building site & also how to manage builders & building projects. But It's a real problem finding skilled tradesmen to help fix up my old Victorian house. The majority of people who advertise locally are just DIYers who clearly do not have a clue, yet claim to be tradesmen. They watch a couple of videos on the internet, then think they can do it, but after a few minutes of me asking them a few simple questions, it's clear they know absolutely nothing. For example, I've asked about 20 plasterers to quote for plastering a ceiling with lime. Not one of them had a clue & just assumed they'd be able to just skim it in one hit like they were using gypsum.
It's taken ages to find a few guys (none of whom are local) who can work to a good standard & know what they're doing. Although I'm still on the lookout for a roofer who knows something about roofs other than it's the sloping bit at the top of the house.
@@phoenixxavier9615 its an that'll do type attitude I've seen it too much, or just doing it cheaply and not to high standards, its not about the job anymore its about the money which is sad, having a job you actually enjoy is rewarding
There should be a program about nightmare clients I bet there’s more of them
"would you mind just doing this?"
Have to agree there is some terrible customers out there...
Yes luckily I’ve had a small hand full over the years but some do get on your nerves
Don't you just hate the ones that say whilst you are here can you.....?
I have no issue with being quite forward and saying i am here to do the works originally asked for (also been known just to walk off and stuff the job)
I am finding more try it on
The clients who can't make their mind up The clients who change their mind half way through the job. The clients who don't want to pay. And the list goes on
Like somebody else said, cowboy builders have encouraged me to do DIY whenever I can. Not only does it save a huge amount of money, but there's no risk of having a terrible tradesperson round and it is quite satisfying learning new skills.
As a child I remember being a bit upset when my dad called me a cheeky little shit for asking him whether he was a cowboy builder. I thought it sounded cool.
"Oh no dear, I never gamble!" - Love it.
You watched through to the end!
Its easy to get to the end when the content is quality👍🏾
So did I.
I know was a brilliant end liner
oh I do love a rant. I remember when I was in the RAF as a mechanic on ground equipment which covered many things from refrigeration to hydraulics being asked by my Sergeant to fit a gas fridge into a caravan for the officers to stay in when on exercise. I replied are you sure? as I was aware of potential gas leaks, he replied F them they are only officers. Oh the good old days
Roger, during lockdown we moved to the coast, I’ve used your advice for all the plumbing work I’ve done, (belt and braces) Preparation and the proper tools, I’ve done some good jobs, installed bath and shower. Thank you Rog!
Roger, you really are a multi-skilled guy. Your journalism, involvement in TV presenting, work you've done with manufacturers and experience in construction it's truely inspirational. I honestly can't wait for new skill builder vids to come out because I have a genuine interest in what you have to say, but....after this video I can't get the vision of you hanging out the back of Anne Robinson out my mind for some reason 👀. Non the less, I'll continue to watch and look forward to the next one. You're a credit to the industry.
I can't get the vision of you hanging out the back of Anne Robinson out my mind for some reason 👀. OMG.
i kinda have to thank cowboy tradies. its because of them that i now know as much about doing things myself as i do. they also inspire me to keep learning so i dont end up as bad as them.
Brilliant Roger, I honestly could listen to you chat for hours, you should have your own radio station 😂👍 such a wealth of knowledge.
Thanks for listening David. There is another rant on its way.
Flocking to "RUclips" and giving up on television!
That's me - not had a TV since 2006! Saved over two grand licence fees and bought thousands of DVD's for when I do want to watch something, and there are a plethora of "RUclips" videos to help me do all the jobs around the house.
Thank you.
“Saved over two grand on licence fee and bought 1000’s of DVDs...”
oh the irony!🤣🤣
I’ve got a 24” TV as the only set in the house, it only comes on for the Covid updates. RUclips all the way
@@adamhenshaw09 How much do you get when you sell your TV licence? Fool!
@@dmail00 don’t be mean, sister. I was merely commenting on the irony of the poster ‘bragging’ of saving 1000’s while ‘bragging’ of spending 1000’s, all in the same breath. Do you not get the irony of that?! It a bit of a Triggers broom comment 🤣🤣🤣
@@adamhenshaw09 DVD's five for £1 from local charity shops and even cheaper when "Cash Converters" closed down. Not to mention the movies I got online for free. Mostly passed on or back to charity.
Well done roger common sense at last ,I’ve been in building trade Since I was 14 now 60 all my work is recommendation nothing written on my van at all ,and have a 2 year waiting list do a good job ,you’ll never be out of work
Never a truer word said mate. All the best.
It's the basic principles of economics. Read Adam Smith. When demand exceeds supply, the price for any given commodity or service goes up. If time is limited, you'll never be out of work.
I started 14 years old, but been in and out of the trade,
BS, who's gonna wait 2 yrs to get some work done?
Where are you based mate?
love all your vids Roger..and you're spot on..i love watching videos showing tips and tricks especially during lockdown - keep up the amazing work..if tonly there was a way i could show you all the great stuff I've done at home since learning watching your vids!
Respect you Roger for being a great human being🙏🙏. Thanks for the great video
Now this is a rant to which I am right behind you. In my day I could tell a cowboy by his tool bag but thats difficult for me today as today its a plastic box on wheels with a pull out handle and DeWalt all over its surface. When a tradesman came on site with his black tool box. Elegant Dovetails on the corners, the saws in the lid, a pull out drawer for the bits and bats. Box made when an apprentice, warms the cockles of ones heart. If the state of the tools did not match the quality or care of the box, which could have been bought at the local pub including tools the condition of the tools would give him away. Plus the spurs on his boots or the horse tied up on a scaffold putlog. Great video 👍👍👍
Spot on. You are right about RUclips being much better for this stuff than standard TV. I appreciate your stuff and I'm enjoying Robin's work too. The point is not necessarily doing the exactly same jobs at home but applying the methodical approaches you guys use. Thank you.
Really enjoyed that rant Rog . Good honest common sense advice 👌🏼.
Love how you managed to flick that bell at the end , very slick 😁🧱👍🏼
Informative and hilarious - really enjoyed this as I knew nothing about Corgi before watching this. Good honest approach to the subject of cowboy builders.
Brilliant just brilliant!! Keep up the good work for all the good tradesmen and tradeswomen!!! 👍👍👍👍
Brilliant well said Roger, love your channel thanks mate keep em coming and stay safe
Excellent video mate, were plagued with cowboys in the roofing game
Nice rant..
Word of mouth and recommendations is the way,
We moved in to our home last year, booked a Oil boiler service with a local recommended chap, turns out he installed the boiler and heating in the first place.
Electric modifications to the home were required also.. I used an electrician I’ve been watching on RUclips for a year or so, his price matched his high quality of work. Next job a side extension...
amazing. said all that in one breath.
love 'roger's rants'
I spent most of my time putting right the work that had been done incorrectly. I did a job for a lady putting the wooden floor right that had been done wrong when I gave her the bill she complained because the people that did the floor originally charged her less per hour. I just put my head in my hands and I did the job as a favour to a friend as it was his mother. The mind boggles. Great video Roger.
Great stuff Roger. I do like a good rant and that was a classic!
when i first started working with my partner many years ago, we went to a little old ladies house to look at a problem she had on her roof. We were not there long, it was a easy fix. She came out when we had finished, thanked us and gave us a mars bar between us. We just looked at each other thanked her and went on our way. All these years later and i still remember it, as if it was yesterday.
great channel this, me n misses are about to start a loft conversion with supervision from a couple of trade friends and our lad is about to start a plumbing apprenticeship. trade people are some of the best people to know always helpfull
Best of luck! You are not wrong
Roger ,you are a true man of principle. Good on you mate Cheers from NZ.
about 17 years ago, I purchased a complete heating system, radiators, boiler, poly-pipe and some copper pipe, (I can solder OK, no leaks), to re do our 4 bed house, I done all but the fitting of the gas to boiler, to the mains gas.
I got a qualified gas fitter to that side of it. the system was a gravity fed. 5 years ago, down sized to a 2 bed bungalow, I replaced the old rads, with some micro bore copper pipes, and got a firm to supply and fit a combi with a small amount of pipe work, as it turned out, the mains gas pipe had to be a larger pipe to feed the boiler. happy days. ps; thank you roger for your great videos.
Hi roger thanks for the great videos, and it’s refreshing to see somebody else out there fighting for honesty, im in the motortrade and have spent my working life doing the same, and there is always a fight sadly, at one point i worked for a large garage chain and within days of pulling up a company director for committing fraud i was informed i was under investigation for theft, funnily enough this investigation quickly disappeared following me picking up the phone during the meeting with this director, he said what are you doing to which I replied i am offering my self up for investigation to the police for this theft as it will save the company having to lead the investigation, i have never seen a man panic so much and change his story so quickly in my life, for the 5 years after that during which i was still employed by the company that man avoided me like the plague and i prevented an old man being charged £500 for work that was not needed. Keep up the good work mate, best wishes. Shaun
That is a good story. A lot of these garages routinely commit fraud on customers. I have a small garage that I have used for 40 years and, hopefully, they will continue. The challenge for them is to keep up with the technology which is designed to exclude anyone other than the main dealers.
@@SkillBuilder yes its a big problem, as in your trade there are a lot of good garages but human nature means there are bad guys too, i always flag it up if i witness it, i have enough friends if i upset a few crooks so be it :-) i work at a small place now as an mot tester and our place is honest so i dont have any worries there :-)
Love videos like this and the dulux one, really interesting and informative.
I've just had 4 quotes to replace the main bathroom and ensuite shower. Not one plumber mentioned building regs, tanking wet areas and all were going to use plasterboard throughout with no membrane. So thank you for your videos as I've dodged a bullet paying way too much ...eg. £600 to fit a sink
Great video rog always enjoy watching you a the spectrum of knowledge you have nice to be given an insight to your background 👍
Glad you enjoyed it Richard.
You are a class act Roger. Kudos to you Sir
What a great chap at putting stuff over, keep up the great work and videos
I am also a cyclist. Haven't been out for a couple of weeks due to the ice.
@@SkillBuilder Its been treacherous in places and a drain on the NHS if we fall of, and an even bigger strain on customers who want a job doing.
Excellent video Roger, I remember Ronan Point, terrible day.
I got called in by the council to quote for some flooring work. When I met the clerk of works, on site to do the quote, I asked what the builders were like and he said " well, I won't say their cowboys but the 1st thing they did on site was build a coral for the horses!"
Sea horses I hope!
Wow !!!!!! Absolutely loved that video Roger, great advice from a great tradesman 💚
Thanks Roger, I really enjoyed this.
This is a topic close to my heart atm, but from a customer view. we have a full semi detached house to renovate, joist work, rewire, roof repairs, staircase repairs.. the lot.
Its damn scary trying to find reputable tradesmen, were now at the point of stuff it, go with a big name so we at least have someone we can sue when it all goes wrong.
As a self builder I can say that personal recommendation is the way to go and has worked very well for me.
Looked liked a young Robert Redford there on tv rodge. Not the actor, my old coalman he was called Robert Redford and he delivered coal for thirty odd years to our neighborhood.👍👍😬
Brilliant video!, didn't realise i had been watching you on terrestrial all those years ago!
What you said about making a show about showing people about fixing things was a good idea, because it would tell people what to look out for in a job what questions to ask , im watching alot of your videos to find out what good workmanship is, knowing these things would help seperate a cowboy from a someone decent ... i get your point that just showing all the bad doesnt give the full picture because youd never know how to spot quality ... but yeah it is helpful/entertaining to spot scammers but that not the full picture anyway good job on this vid and all the other quality videos you are making
Brilliant rant! Thoroughly enjoyable! Do you do any podcasts Roger?
Definitely moved from tv to watching all your vids and robins 👍 keep em coming
It feels good to have a rant, I do it all the time ! The Bookies story made me laugh Thanks for that !
A very illuminating video Roger. Nice one.👍
Excellent Rodger! Love your rants mate...you just say it how it actually is! 👍
15 cowboys disliked this one. Good work Roger - the bookie story at the end was funny, double or quits :-)
U can defo c that u needed to share that with ur audience, well done Rodger, am glad u got that off ur chest, take a bow, ur a legend..
Ha funny you should mention about drain unblocking. I was convinced my old interceptor drain was blocked with concrete. Thames water came out to look and said as it's not a shared drain it's my responsibility. I called out happy drains, to their credit they had a fixed charge regardless of how long it took to unblock, much better than others. Out he came with his drain plunger and unblocked it in seconds. I was kicking myself for not buying a kit for £25. The most annoying thing is Thames water spent half hour putting camera kit to back of house to see if drain was shared, they even had a plunger same as happy drains and could have easily unblocked it for me but didn't, clearly they were too focused on proving responsibility. Very annoying. Good lesson learnt though.
The right decision Rodger, be true and make the world a better place. Bless you
Nicely said!!
Wen ever we have tradespeople round, they always a few brews and a plate of biscuits.
Even bought one chap fish n chips and we ate at the table and had a right old chat!
I also have had fish and chips when working late on a Friday trying to get central heating going
My boss on one of the companies I worked for was a rip off merchant. We were in a house in January looking at an old Vaillant boiler with a dodgy ignition system, it sounded like it was earthing out because it was a dull clicking noise. Possibly a crack in the cable but my boss took a screwdriver jammed it in the boiler and snapped off the support arm and then declared it was broken and beyond repair. I quit two weeks later going self-employed.
Roger thanks for the rant, most of us try and do our best all of the time.
The general customer distrust astonishes me. My tip for customers choosing cheapest is not always the best, I call this race to the bottom as no one can make a living and you have more chance of being ripped off. Also ask to see the trade insurance, most rouges carry none in my experience
Its funny as that's where I knew you from when came across this channel, from Rogue Traders and Watchdog :)
I'm not in the trade but love the content and presentation. Happy Christmas Roger B.....
Roger, you are a man of integrity and your experience shows how media are poison
Love your rants Roger. Keep em coming
Cracking rant Roger. Love it. Keep up this type of video. You're a public service hero!
Goodness me Roger is so fun to watch, what a character 👍🤣
Wow you're famous. Sensationalism, confrontation, conflicts, etc, it does make for good ratings and we are hooked on this kind of negative entertainment. My favourite house program from the BBC was "Getting the Builders in", this was so nice because it captured the banter between the builders and they gave tips and tricks alongside the entertainment of the different teams competing to get the jobs. Such a shame it didn't continue.
Great rant Roger. My opinion is that cowboys of all flavours exist because we've created the conditions for that. People like me were pointed towards office work at school. We have an entire generation (or more) of people who are entirely abstracted from the fundamentals of living, so they have zero understanding of plumbing, electrics, house building etc etc. In other words, vital skills that allow people to live resiliently/fulfill their human needs. I have a leak in my shower just now, and under pandemic rules I probably shouldn't have a plumber in (I have another shower). I don't need to though because as a keen DIYer, I can fix it myself. I understand how my house is built, what it takes to maintain and fix most things within it. A plumber would do a much better job, and I'd normally phone one, but I don't have a complete reliance on one, and nor would I be tricked by a cowboy as I'd have the knowledge to question them. I really think intermediate level housing maintenance should be taught in schools. It's so important. Shelter, water, waste management, understanding insulation etc are things every single person needs in life, we shouldn't be so far detached from them.
We've only really had one lot of definite cowboy builders round, and that was using a well known 'recommended builder site' after a carpenter we'd used from it was fine. Being new to the area it was hard to get recommendations.
Pure class absolutely loved that rant Roger 👍
very interesting indeed. Many thanks.
Well done Roger! Finaly an Honest crook (I'm joking of course), watch all your videos, thanks for the effort you put into the detail. Love the reviews of new products and your honesty. Non affiliated, non scripted opinion from experience- great knowledge base!
You made my day, brilliant.
Just seen you on Grand Designs tonight....... Some guy watching your block and beam video.
Very good episode thanks
Truly honest guy with good morals Roger 👍
You have to remember most people watching cooking shows on TV are sat there scoffing a kebab or ready meal and never touch a saucepan. That's why over the years it's increasingly moved towards Masterchef style poncey nonsense with time limits. Similarly the practical DIY shows are not going to get the ratings that multi-million pound dream house building projects failing are, or dramatic rogue trader gotchas with some muppet on a motorbike. Thankfully we have youtube and channels like yours!
I think practical DIY shows can also attract viewers IF they're presented in an engaging way.
Garden and Home improvement shows such as (Garden Force or Changing Rooms) became popular because they presented each conversion job as a story and hired a likeable cast of workers, some of whom became household personalities.
Such a DIY show can also occasionally report responsibly on incompetence, without making it the focus.
Brilliant Roger!
Another good video. Maybe my standards are too high but I`m just an average DIYer but I can`t remember ever having someone who actually done a caring job in my house. That`s why I do it myself whenever possible.
Would be good to see if all scheme providers were actually there to look after the consumer rather then just be there to generate a income.
I mainly work in the electrical trade and the failures i see of the schemes to protect consumers against sub standard work by registered members is shocking.
I know clients/consumers are not always right but i do think that any scheme provider that has a complaint about a member should then get an independent report on the work carried out and then take action against the offending member or confirm everything is done right to the client.
Word of mouth is the best way to get work
I think all the schemes are indeed independent businesses, so they're not consumer organisations funded by charity/state/council - we have Trading Standards for that. It wouldn't be in the business's interests to get an independent report. Who would pay for it? The customers of the scheme provider are the contractors that pay them, not joe public, so they wouldn't want to irritate their paying customers. Only Trading Standards would pay for taking someone to court as they're funded by you and me via our council tax.
Brilliant video keep them coming
love it roger especially the last one about the booky haha
but then thats how we learn or in the case of cowboys never learn
but what to do ?
if everyone was like you or me roger : )
i never knew you where such an advocate, the beers on me if we ever meet. job well done roger.
Well done Roger 👍👏👏
Hi Rodger, TV has no hold on me at all, in fact apart from Dr Who (I have been a fan of that programme since I was a lad and now I am 69) I watch that on catch-up TV I have not seen a TV programme since 2015. I do watch too much you tube but it is all “educational” like your videos, I have done every job associated with building a house including building a house from plans I had drawn up and got past by the local council, trenching, brick & block foundations right up to tiling the roof and all the jobs between so I think I am qualified, but I don’t do any building now due to old age and my body giving up on me, so I enjoy watching what I cannot do myself any more.
can't believe I ain't seen this video before...I probably saw you on the TV when I was a kid :D
Fun video and sounds like you’ve done some good in your life 👍🏻
Great stuff Roger 👏 👍
brilliant stuff my man
Great rant 👍 very entertaining.
A man with morals. Thanks
Roger you are a credit to the industry.
Great stuff.
Well done Roger.
10:56 sounds so much like NICEIC
Great thing about RUclips is that people who deserve to be well known through their good work and integrity are rising to the top.
That is a great observation
The Kardashians????
Just seen you on grand designs roger!!!
Oh yes I forgot to watch it.
The problem in most trades is lack of training also coupled with the lack of maintenance. Another big no no is buying on price, it may seem a bargain tap or shower but belive me a £500 shower unit is vastly different from a £80 one. Builders today use the cheapest product available and call the finished house quality, most wouldn't know what quality is !
That was a great insight.
The electrical industry NEEDs someone like you too!
Yes I think it has a lot of parallels. Most plumbers did not support my attempts to get CORGI sorted out, when it came down to it they kept their heads down and paid the fees with no representation on the organisation. The fact that the HSE gave them the powers to charge anything they decided was appropriate was a real injustice. CORGI was not supposed to make a profit but that is the easiest thing in the world to engineer. Big pensions, nice cars, expense accounts............
Hi, l recall we had a local property maintenance company run by east Indian personnel, there slogan on the side of their van read, "You used the Cowboys now try the Indians"!! Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Man, your late. Scroll down see Vinny Surti's comment/thread.
Cup of tea! Spot on Roger
Compare with, for example, France. There a builder (macon), or other specialist such as plumber or whatever cannot operate (get their essential tax TVA - VAT - certification) without relevant qualifications. It's much harder there to set up compared to the UK where a van and a few tools is all you need. There it is very much harder to function without proper accredited standards. In the UK without good recommendation a builder etc is presumed a cowboy unless proved otherwise whereas the reverse is true in France...