N3054V DC-4 Alaska Crash 23 April, 2024

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  • @shaunaf4675
    @shaunaf4675 Месяц назад +2067

    My cousin was one of the two on board. Thanks everyone for the kind condolences, I’ll be sure to pass them along to the rest of the family. My cousin is a wonderful, caring man. Highly skilled, will be sorely missed by many, and this is a huge tragedy for his family.

  • @AlaskaCodger
    @AlaskaCodger Месяц назад +618

    These fliers are unsung heroes to us here Alaska. They complete the tenuous connection these tiny villages have with provisions most Americans take for granted. Our deepest condolences.

    • @38911bytefree
      @38911bytefree Месяц назад +18

      They most have balls of steel, the birds are old and tired, the wheater doest not help at all.

    • @Fyrpylit
      @Fyrpylit Месяц назад +13

      I flew one of the H&P 4y Airtankers out of Wainwright.
      It was my privilege to serve the citizens of Alaska.
      Somehow, I became an old pilot.

    • @BradyReading
      @BradyReading Месяц назад +5

      Respect and love to these pilots and all who carry this responsibility.

    • @sanfranciscobay
      @sanfranciscobay Месяц назад +2

      What would the local people do without the fuel delivery? Use Dog Sleds? What is the fuel used for? Snowmobiles, 4 wheel drive off road vehicles and generators for electricity?

    • @skiak004
      @skiak004 Месяц назад +3

      @@sanfranciscobay All of the above.

  • @NoviceFBVFW
    @NoviceFBVFW Месяц назад +754

    At 4:57... Sounds like, "Tell them I love them man, tell my love"... heartbreaking.

    • @chester8420
      @chester8420 Месяц назад +162

      Yep. I agree. "Tell 'em I love 'um, ma'am. Tell 'em I love 'um.

    • @iancairns7398
      @iancairns7398 Месяц назад +99

      Definitely says tell them I love them. Poor guys 🙏

    • @BillSmith-rx9rm
      @BillSmith-rx9rm Месяц назад +86

      Oh yeah, I didn't pick up on that until you pointed it out. So sad to hear those kind of transmissions.

    • @jekanyika
      @jekanyika Месяц назад +29

      I agree

    • @stracepipe
      @stracepipe Месяц назад +35

      Absolutely heartbreaking.

  • @smcgilvary
    @smcgilvary Месяц назад +386

    They were hauling 3200 gallons of #1 heating oil to the village of Kobuk. Tragic loss for the families and all of Alaska. RIP

    • @Agislife1960
      @Agislife1960 Месяц назад +21

      Thats a big load for a DC-4, I was an FE on a DC-6 tanker in the 90's and we hauled 3800 gallons on a regular basis.

    • @joeheiderich6790
      @joeheiderich6790 Месяц назад

      R t rZzzrz a row u

    • @garyhatstat8449
      @garyhatstat8449 Месяц назад +5

      Alot of weight

    • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
      @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Месяц назад +5

      Heating oil, right? This was a catastrophic aircraft failure, not a frequent failure mode, from the account. Still it was a sacrifice for the sake of keeping remote settlements going in Alaska. R.I.P. (removes hat)

    • @johnwillard6749
      @johnwillard6749 Месяц назад +3

      So sad my condolences to the crew and family

  • @weewillywanka5904
    @weewillywanka5904 Месяц назад +389

    Broke my heart to hear that young first officer's voice cracking knowing that this was the end. Very sad

    • @brandonhebert5485
      @brandonhebert5485 Месяц назад +78

      And at 4:57 he said "tell em I love em, man, tell em I love em."

    • @TIO540S1
      @TIO540S1 Месяц назад +12

      @@brandonhebert5485Heartbreaking and gut wrenching 😢

    • @emergencylowmaneuvering7350
      @emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Месяц назад +7

      Nahh! He says turning left, turning left.. Thats all. Former DC3 pilot. 1980's..

    • @--SPQR--
      @--SPQR-- Месяц назад +16

      ​@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350I believe you are mistaken, sir.

    • @rumpstatefiasco
      @rumpstatefiasco Месяц назад +17

      @@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
      Play it at half speed. It’s a clear message of love to his loved ones.

  • @sharonfrascawilliams4258
    @sharonfrascawilliams4258 Месяц назад +207

    Your condolences are so very appreciated and bring us comfort. Shauna is my niece and the pilot was our very loved cousin. W
    Our family celebrated the wedding of my nephew and Shauna's cousin in November. Our family is very close and this tragedy has shaken us. Jack was a truly kind, loving and the definition of gentleman. He was a tremendous father and husband. It brings us comfort that so many here share in the grief we feel and acknowledge our great loss. Bless you all!

    • @ValerieGriner
      @ValerieGriner Месяц назад +17

      My deepest prayers and condolences to you, your friends, and your family. This is very tragic. May they rest in peace.

    • @LingTheBug
      @LingTheBug Месяц назад

      Condolences for the loss, please pass on all our thoughts to the other family members and friends.
      Though not to the same extent as you all who were close, the loss is felt across the aviation community.

    • @GlideYNRG
      @GlideYNRG Месяц назад +7

      Condolences to your families from Australia.

    • @foxecho727
      @foxecho727 Месяц назад +3

      Very sorry for your loss....

    • @blackwingy
      @blackwingy Месяц назад +2

      My heart goes out to you and your family. It's an incalculable loss.

  • @stephenlewis652
    @stephenlewis652 Месяц назад +49

    This is a painful story for me. I worked for Aero Union for four seasons as a copilot, 1979 to 1982, on their DC-4’s, both US Forestry firefighting and Alaska fishing industry. We lost a DC-4 under similar circumstances the summer of 1981: The crew lost a cylinder, “threw a jug” on the number one cylinder on the number one engine departing out of Kenai AK, in IFR conditions. It resulted in an uncontrollable engine fire, that eventually burned into the wing, blowing the wing off. It killed the chief pilot and a young copilot like myself.
    I was taught to look out the window and visually scan the engines during takeoff and afterwards, looking for any leaks and shaking of the engines. This could occur before any cockpit gauge indications.
    I believe there was an AD on the R-2000 engine to periodically look for cracks in the case around the cylinder mounting bolts.
    RIP my fellow airman…

  • @ricklowers8873
    @ricklowers8873 Месяц назад +331

    Juan, Let me start by saying I’m NOT trying to make ANY determinations; but I stopped your frame advance at 7min 22sec. Zoomed in. Although very poor resolution it is VERY easy to see catastrophic damage to the leading edge inboard the no. 1 engine. Appears that the LE segment between #’s 1 & 2 is gone altogether. Also, looks like the #1 engine is at a 90 degree angle to the back end of the engine nacelle. If so, I would imagine that the drag created would probably be impossible to overcome. If that was the case; no amount of experience or effort could have saved this crew and aircraft.
    I remember from my SF-340 training that if upon an engine failure & prop going flat; the aircraft was all but uncontrollable. And that would be nothing to what this crew experienced. My condolences to all family, loved ones & friends.

    • @ourlifeinwyoming4654
      @ourlifeinwyoming4654 Месяц назад +34

      Agreed. Just before impact no. 1 is no longer attached.

    • @turbinjumper
      @turbinjumper Месяц назад +8

      May GOD bless the families of all aboard. They did their best, but it was not their time. Blue skies brothers.

    • @A321LR
      @A321LR Месяц назад +3

      I agree…you can also see a portion of the aircraft just after the explosion falling towards the yellow cursor on screen. Because of the angle it is coming down at an angle to the right of the screen. It goes directly over the yellow cursor in Juans last freeze frame. Likely more than just a VMC event and instead a catastrophic failure. Very Sad.

    • @erickeenan7562
      @erickeenan7562 Месяц назад +4

      Yep, and that drag, along with the power from the right side will drive the plane down and left. It looked like it happened so fast, there was no way to react.

    • @noahgrove2046
      @noahgrove2046 Месяц назад +5

      I noticed that when viewing it too. Number 1 is actively departing the airplane and the leading edge defiantly took some damage. Something absolutely catastrophic happened to that engine.

  • @henryfreund_
    @henryfreund_ Месяц назад +387

    I operated out of PAEN- Kenai, AK this last summer flying p135 charters. 54V was there for a lot of the summer, and every time it departed with a load of fuel, it would just barely clear the relatively small trees at the edge of the airport. In this instance,even in late winter/early spring here with low density altitude, you can see they only climb at 3-500ft/m. Always an engine issue away from going in. Rest in peace

    • @Brotha00
      @Brotha00 Месяц назад +11

      What a job. RIP

    • @dirtdigger949
      @dirtdigger949 Месяц назад +23

      I have a question with a full capacity load of fuel on board could the DC4 run on 3 engines and make it back to the airport and if there is trouble with the engine one why not shut it down feather the prop and return is it possable? My quess is a weight issue but not sure.

    • @henryfreund_
      @henryfreund_ Месяц назад +43

      @@dirtdigger949 I don’t think it could. I haven’t flown anything of that size but when we would lose sight of 54V behind the 15’ tall trees a mile away, you know they were climbing slow… That’s a part of it though, just have to be ready to put it down immediately if anything happens. When they’re empty, it’s not an issue, but fuel is heavy.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper Месяц назад +33

      @@dirtdigger949 Provided feathering works and the failure is simple, we do not know at this point in time, but you can have an engine failure that leads to the engine becoming a drag device rather than feathered.
      At that point you can end up being overweight and unable to keep it in the air with the remaining power you have.
      An example of this is the Embraer 120's prop failure that slanted the engine pod slightly sideways in the wing.
      The result was so much drag that even with the other engine at full power, you were forced to descend until impact or stall out and fall to the ground.

    • @williambarry8015
      @williambarry8015 Месяц назад +3

      😱😱

  • @patrickshannon4854
    @patrickshannon4854 Месяц назад +208

    Your vid demonstrates how quickly an emergency turns into oblivion. 8 seconds from explosion to eternity. How precious life is.

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Месяц назад +2

      Yes.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 Месяц назад

      And how horribly quick it can end. 😢

    • @Odin197188
      @Odin197188 Месяц назад +1

      It will seem too quick for us all.

    • @Odin197188
      @Odin197188 Месяц назад +6

      “Tell ‘em I love ‘em” is what I heard, probably what I’d say. 😢

    • @yanniskouretas8688
      @yanniskouretas8688 Месяц назад +2

      Liquid cargo, outboard engine out, turn into the dead engine possibly structural damage = uncontrollable/unrecoverable situation (especially with the heavy slow response controls of the c54)...

  • @davidedgar2818
    @davidedgar2818 Месяц назад +68

    This is a most sad event. In Alaska it's a much smaller community and most people are very thankful for their supply deliveries. Crew of such suppliers are often well known and well regarded.
    This time of year is most critical for often the first resupply after the long winter. This crew was actually probably delivering much needed fuel. This is a huge loss for the crews families but also a loss for people waiting on this delivery. There are not a lot of delivery options in remote areas and this loss could effect many people.
    It is just sad for all involved.

  • @kuckoo9036
    @kuckoo9036 Месяц назад +268

    That was a substantial explosion, and you can make out the engine separating from the wing just before impact. Wouldn't be surprised to learn it caused wing and/or control linkage damage on that wing.
    RIP to the crew and condolences to loved ones.

    • @y00t00b3r
      @y00t00b3r Месяц назад +20

      @BB-xx3dv The engines have been rebuilt or replaced many times by now

    • @kevin_6217
      @kevin_6217 Месяц назад +21

      ​@BB-xx3dv You either find or make the parts, just like they did when first made them.

    • @y00t00b3r
      @y00t00b3r Месяц назад +10

      @BB-xx3dv No, but replacement parts have to exist, either "new-old stock" or freshly manufactured, or they wouldn't be flying. Perhaps this is a rare case of something like the engine block just deciding that it's had enough, and letting go.

    • @tom0photographi
      @tom0photographi Месяц назад +8

      When they say “freshly manufactured” I think they mean custom made if possible. Or new old stock, manufactured back in the day as spares but never used.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Месяц назад +2

      @BB-xx3dv not since the fifties, it's like refilling old milk bottles when they are rebuilt.

  • @LouT1501
    @LouT1501 Месяц назад +65

    I've stayed with friends who live just north of Fairbanks and watched these take off from the same airport. Their climb out always seemed like a struggle. RIP, guys.

    • @rainscratch
      @rainscratch Месяц назад +3

      Pushing the load limits of these old birds?

    • @prestwickpioneer3474
      @prestwickpioneer3474 Месяц назад +1

      @@rainscratchoperating at high gross weights means poor performance margins. No other way to service these communities or it becomes unviable.

    • @rescue270
      @rescue270 Месяц назад +1

      One thing I know is that they keep their climb rates pretty flat in order to keep airspeed up. The engines will get too hot if they climb steeply.

  • @eugeneweaver3199
    @eugeneweaver3199 Месяц назад +104

    Terrible. 😢 Can't say this incident was caused by pilot error. My condolences to family and friends of the crew. Thanks, Juan, for your hard work.

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 Месяц назад +2

      There was an explosion at the wing. Why would anyone think the loss of control was pilot error?

    • @PilotPlater
      @PilotPlater Месяц назад +6

      @@joesterling4299 The industry has seen countless examples of fatal VMC roll accidents in multi engine aircraft due to attempting to climb below blue line after engine failure. This case appears to be different - nobody in the industry trains for loss of an aileron or significant portion of the wing surface around the failed engine. These pilots were doomed once the explosion happened, nothing could be done at that point. My first thought before I watched the footage was VMC roll due to climbing too slow, but the footage makes it very clear that's not the case.

    • @djsniper6364
      @djsniper6364 Месяц назад +5

      Definitely not pilot error

  • @MrZagorfly
    @MrZagorfly Месяц назад +54

    Always very respectful in reporting tragedies. We lost two aviators and I feel your pain.

  • @bobwilliamson5993
    @bobwilliamson5993 Месяц назад +42

    Juan #1 engine turning left under power then total failure of #1. very powerful momentum, failed lift on the left side plus,- damage inducted drag, in these critical moments of this flight, developing lift under load at 1200 - 1500 ft they appear to have gotten flipped over in a snap.
    I can tell this is seriously impacting you. They never had a chance. You are a good man, and a great !!!! teacher. I don't fly anything but from your teaching I learned within limits of course, so much. Thank you for caring so much, the world needs more men like you. 👍👍

    • @RingingResonance
      @RingingResonance Месяц назад +1

      Yes, looks like a textbook roll from being below VMCA and loosing a critical engine (left most engine on non counter-rotating props).
      They shouldn't be flying these airplanes loaded up like that. You need more power for that kind of weight in case an engine fails at least you've already climbed up to a safer altitude and your much more likely to be above VMCA by then.
      They may have been able to save it if they pulled the power out, pointed the nose down to try and get the plane above VMCA, and then put power back in. Maybe, maybe not. Will have to see what the investigation says.

  • @WillaHerrera
    @WillaHerrera Месяц назад +62

    KCIC is my home. I've seen this aircraft many times.
    Rest in peace 2 pilots. ❤

  • @larumpole
    @larumpole Месяц назад +24

    I felt uneasy clicking 'Like' for this video. I don't like the tragic loss of the two pilots, and my heart goes out to their family and friends. I did appreciate your Joe Friday 'Just the facts m'am' summary of what happened. Thank you and may the crew of N3054V R.I.P.

  • @Fyrpylit
    @Fyrpylit Месяц назад +37

    This was a former Airtanker owned by Aeroflight out of Kingman by my friend Matt.
    I used to fly out of Fairbanks fighting fires.
    These planes are crucial to the remote communities. Hard work, high risk, not exactly great pay, but adventure and a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day were worth the risk to me.
    Been there
    Godspeed brothers.

    • @emergencylowmaneuvering7350
      @emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Месяц назад

      Former DC3 cargo pilot. I loved those engine sounds but.. too oldie..

    • @maryl923
      @maryl923 Месяц назад

      Matt is a good guy, Used to fly lead for you all. Yes, a lot of loss in those days. This one made me cry too

    • @Fyrpylit
      @Fyrpylit Месяц назад

      @@maryl923
      By any chance does your last name end in a “y”? If so you know me.

    • @maryl923
      @maryl923 Месяц назад

      I'm not the one that starts with a V

    • @Fyrpylit
      @Fyrpylit Месяц назад

      @@maryl923
      😉 She is an old friend

  • @Kyzyl_Tuva
    @Kyzyl_Tuva Месяц назад +81

    Sad day up there. Thank you for this update Juan

  • @iain3411
    @iain3411 Месяц назад +81

    From that far away that was pretty big boom. RIP to the pilot & 1st officer.

  • @sledheadjd
    @sledheadjd Месяц назад +19

    Seen the smoke when i left for work. I live 17 miles away. As i got closer to work (about a mile from the airport) started to think the smoke wasn't from airport fire fighers training. Even thought "man, i hope that's not a plane, nah, just a house fire". Know a few people that work for the company. Has hit the members of the flying community hard. Prayers to the families.

  • @craigmiller332
    @craigmiller332 Месяц назад +69

    That's so terrible to watch 😢
    Condolences to the crew's family.

    • @davef.2329
      @davef.2329 Месяц назад +5

      And, listen to those guy's last words. Condolences to friends and family.

    • @Avgeek1564
      @Avgeek1564 Месяц назад

      Don't watch it then!

  • @RMR1
    @RMR1 Месяц назад +26

    The plane had 3,200 gallons of home heating oil on board, bound for Kobuk, an Iñupiat village 300 miles northwest of Fairbanks. Not that the outcome would have been any different with no cargo. The drag of that engine hanging off the wing would doom any plane, regardless. RIP to the two pilots on board.

    • @JR-jw3px
      @JR-jw3px Месяц назад +1

      RIP, sad day for Alaska, condolences to all affected by the loss of these hero airmen. the four C97 STC tank system & R2000-7M2

  • @DWBurns
    @DWBurns Месяц назад +23

    Once again, you did a stellar job explaining a difficult situation. I feel bad giving this a thumbs up because of the loss of life but thank you very much for the in-depth and respectful analysis. You once again showed respect for the efforts that the crew put in attempting to save this aircraft.
    Keep up the good work

  • @herbbutler9580
    @herbbutler9580 Месяц назад +52

    I was in the Air Force from 1961- 1965 and was an aircraft instrument and electrical technician. I acquired my A&P license as a civilian and worked for Northern Air Cargo based out of Anchorage which flew DC 6s. The R2000 radial engine on the C54 (DC4) has fuel carburetor on each engine. I have never heard of a radial recip engine exploding. The video in my opinion shows a massive fuel leak (high octane gasoline) which lit off explosively and wiped out the left aileron control. IMHO

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, they throw heads and barrels but tend to keep running.

    • @chrisjohnson4666
      @chrisjohnson4666 Месяц назад +2

      Looks more like an engine mount let go and the engine flipped loose... I recall seeing a video years ago a video of an R 3350 from like the 50s broke a mount fell down wards was like 30deg down.... The prop would shred the wing....

    • @user-nx6qr1mt6f
      @user-nx6qr1mt6f Месяц назад +1

      Seems right, I’ve never seen catastrophic explosions of radials resulting in wing damage so severe it’s not flyable.
      A&P/IA.

    • @chrisjohnson4666
      @chrisjohnson4666 Месяц назад

      @user-nx6qr1mt6f id be curious on two points one was the engine recently reinstalled a d two when were the engine mounts last checked... Seems to me the top mount would fail sag engine prop could cut control cables then the last two mounts (I think it's a 3 mounts system on the DC4 but I could be wrong???)

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +1

      @@chrisjohnson4666 engine would have to rotate more than 90 degrees, to cut cables.

  • @joncox9719
    @joncox9719 Месяц назад +67

    Use to see these guy's in Illiamna AK, Bettles and Nome all the time! RIP Brothers! 🙏🙏😪😪

  • @donallan6396
    @donallan6396 Месяц назад +49

    It's such a sad event.Condolences to family and friends of the two pilots.

  • @pirahna432
    @pirahna432 Месяц назад +115

    I watched one of their airplanes take off from Dutch Harbor one day and lose altitude off the end of 31. So much so that we lost sight of all but the vertical stab until they staggered back upwards. They must have been just about skimming the surface, because the runway isn’t high above the water. My station manager and I were speechless. Never seen anything like it.
    Godspeed, gentlemen. Tragic.

    • @leonartac8722
      @leonartac8722 Месяц назад +1

      Appears the DC4 turned left where they lost the engine, then stalled. Turning might have helped?

    • @leonartac8722
      @leonartac8722 Месяц назад +1

      Turning right.

    • @tymcfadden8496
      @tymcfadden8496 Месяц назад +31

      Flying into Dutch in a 737 in a storm was the single scariest thing I've ever experienced. The pilots brought her down to about 50 feet off the deck for the last several miles of the approach to stay visual, he actually gave us passengers the option to abort the attempt and return to Anchorage with a show of hands, he said it was a 60/40 situation. Almost no one put their hand up because most of us had been stuck in Anchorage for a week or more waiting for the weather to break so we could get to our ships and start making some money, so in we went. He slammed it down on the runway, hit full reversers and brakes and we were all thrown forward into our seatbelts as we skidded to a stop at the far end of the runway. I spoke with the pilot later in the terminal, I wanted to tell him what an awesome job of aviating he did. He told me he gets nervous flying into Dutch even in good weather because, and he said this in a hushed tone, "the runway isn't long enough for a 737, even when it's dry". Probably isn't even long enough for a fully loaded C-54 to get takeoff airspeed without a strong headwind. I hate that airport, lol

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@tymcfadden8496 I would have loved to have been on that flight.
      Regular aviating is boring.

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Месяц назад +4

      @@tymcfadden8496 Dutch Harbor Airport has a runway length of 1189 metres - usable only for Turboprops and definetely not long enough for a 737 - with light weight, in good weather conditions, full Breaks and Reversers and very much Good Luck maybe just enough to stop inside the Runway - but taking off again: nearly impossible. Openly said, I´m wondering if this Flight really took place. It would have been a negligent Breach of Standard Operating Procedures.

  • @Knee-ko
    @Knee-ko Месяц назад +10

    Thanks Juan. Appreciate how you only show the minimal amount of footage required to describe what you see. No need for too many replays when souls are lost. RIP to the crew.

  • @gregparkslive
    @gregparkslive Месяц назад +55

    Juan, I can see and hear in your voice how sad you feel for these Cargo pilots.

  • @nzsaltflatsracer8054
    @nzsaltflatsracer8054 Месяц назад +10

    The copilots last words to his family right before impact is heartbreaking. RIP young man.

  • @pilots1015
    @pilots1015 Месяц назад +5

    My family was friends with the pilot of this plane….my mom texted me right away and I felt so bad….fly high guys 🕊️🕊️

  • @samb3706
    @samb3706 Месяц назад +8

    I flew as flight engineer on this aircraft when it was USN Buno 91994 in 1966-1969. This aircraft actually spent time in WW II as a lend lease item to the RAF. 91994 was one of the best C54s we had, and I flew hundreds of hours in her. Sad to see her go this way.

  • @spdaltid
    @spdaltid Месяц назад +146

    RIP. Tragic event. FWIW, After a Mayday call, told the tower to standby. Girl was trying to help, but not a thing she could do other than clear the runways and hit the alarm.

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf Месяц назад +18

      There was nothing anyone could do, including the pilots. When the engine blew, no power on earth could save them.

    • @jackielinde7568
      @jackielinde7568 Месяц назад +17

      Once the engine exploded, there was nothing anybody could do about it. Before that, the plane should have been able to fly back. I hope the NTSB can figure out why the engine exploded.

    • @jackielinde7568
      @jackielinde7568 Месяц назад +1

      @OfficialBlancolirio7 Hey Fake account. How about we report you to RUclips instead?

  • @bessarion1771
    @bessarion1771 Месяц назад +6

    The last "inaudible" transmission is : "Tell'em I love'em, ma'am, tell'em I love'em." It's very quick, but you can still hear it.

  • @guymerritt4860
    @guymerritt4860 Месяц назад +10

    You can hear the terror in that kid's voice....rough stuff. Rest in peace and my condolences to the families.

  • @williambush7971
    @williambush7971 Месяц назад +40

    In 1981 I was on a SecState visit to St. Lucia. The smaller airport was a few blocks from the hotel I was staying at. On the way to the hotel one evening I saw a DC-6 doing a runup just prior to takeoff. When I got to my hotel I heard a noise and look towards the airport where the smoke was coming from. I walked up and found the DC-6 in flames and a circus of firefighters trying to fight the fire. They kept spraying the engine that had a magnesium fire raging. It wasn't pretty. A couple of days later the NTSB showed up and I talked to them. The number one engine had failed on takeoff forcing them to circle back for a landing. They were coming up a bit short of the runway so they the pilot increased power to try to make the runway. The asymmetric thrust spun the pan around and into trees on the side of the runway. It was very sad watching the plane burn knowing the pilots did not make it out, even though the plane was pretty much intact with little damage to the cockpit. These old birds just can't make the power they used to with modern fuel so any engine failure leaves them in a bad spot.

    • @Paiadakine
      @Paiadakine Месяц назад

      Is the engines and payload reduced due to the engines not making full power?

    • @emergencylowmaneuvering7350
      @emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Месяц назад +10

      My friend Carlos Munoz flying from Miami died on that crash. Summer 1982. Was a cargo plane from Miami.

    • @davidlyon1899
      @davidlyon1899 Месяц назад

      Did not know they had ruined avgas as well.

    • @andrebello4191
      @andrebello4191 Месяц назад +1

      Assymetric thrust can be tricky sometimes

    • @williambush7971
      @williambush7971 Месяц назад +6

      @@davidlyon1899 The engines from the WWII era were designed to run 100/130 fuel.

  • @thomasfinnegan9793
    @thomasfinnegan9793 Месяц назад +10

    The Coast Guard R5D (C-54) was my first bird after getting my wings in 1960. Great aircraft, and ours had a folding seat for the flight engineer, who operated all the engine controls, gear and flap levers, without an engineer, the pilot not flying could operate them, but it must be a bit awkward. So sad for those fellows. RIP!!

  • @tedhammond3631
    @tedhammond3631 Месяц назад +22

    I have never experienced or seen any radial engine explode like the event we see in this video. I can't help but think that the No. 1 engine fire must have progressed to an empty or partially filled wing tank which would explain an explosion like that. As is evident, that situation was then unsurvivable . Prayers for all.

    • @bernieschiff5919
      @bernieschiff5919 Месяц назад +1

      It's been suggested here from a person with a maintenance background in this type that a fuel leak in the tapered section aft of the firewall became a fuel air explosion when it was triggered by fire or heat. Will be interesting to see if the NTSB can get the number 1 engine to run on a test stand.

    • @p930racer
      @p930racer Месяц назад +1

      @@bernieschiff5919, chances are high that the engine completely self destructed, which led to this disaster.

  • @thebanksfilms4426
    @thebanksfilms4426 Месяц назад +13

    I used to work at FAI for years and have watched that exact bird take off so many times. They are always loaded super heavy and barely clear the tree line as others have said. Condolences to the families 😔

  • @id10t98
    @id10t98 Месяц назад +7

    I was hoping JB would go over this. Having flown to and from work hundreds of times every year on floatplanes, helicopters and being dependent on these guys to deliver fuel so I could work, makes one appreciate how remote Alaska still is today. RIP to all🙏🙏

  • @savearhino369
    @savearhino369 Месяц назад +11

    thanks so much for the update.

  • @AKRover77
    @AKRover77 Месяц назад +28

    You are correct that the first officer was speaking with ATC. Both crew members were highly experienced pilots. I knew both of them and they will be missed

    • @carmeloneill
      @carmeloneill Месяц назад +1

      I’m in Texas and I hurt with you for this great loss of two incredible pilots. 9 seconds. A fiery end. SO tragic!!

  • @goaliemedic37
    @goaliemedic37 Месяц назад +51

    At 7:22, if you zoom in, it definitely looks like the #1 is no longer on the wing. You can make out the silhouettes of the #2, 3, and 4, but seems like a missing place where #1 should be.

    • @nancychace8619
      @nancychace8619 Месяц назад +3

      I don't know. I'm only on a little cell, but how much closer could that fire have been to the fuselage for the engine to have been the number 2? Granted, I'm only on an Android.

    • @seaskimmer9071
      @seaskimmer9071 Месяц назад +5

      That's 100% apparent at 7:31 - good catch.

    • @tymcfadden8496
      @tymcfadden8496 Месяц назад +1

      I see something there, but what I see looks very damaged, maybe dangling from the wing. It's definitely not where it should be.

    • @M1903a4
      @M1903a4 Месяц назад +5

      @@tymcfadden8496 You can actually see it changing position and finally fall completely away before the a/c goes behind the trees. Sadly, they never had any chance at all.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Месяц назад +2

      @@M1903a4 they will find the parts that fell off, probably the only recognizable pieces left.

  • @icare7151
    @icare7151 Месяц назад +27

    RIP 🙏to the lost and their families.

  • @defendyourclam1682
    @defendyourclam1682 Месяц назад +71

    It’s no longer a wing, just pieces of metal sticking off the left side of the fuselage. Zero lift. RIP

  • @Cowman37
    @Cowman37 Месяц назад +5

    I used to live in Fairbanks and it was a relatively common occurrence to see these old planes coming in operating on an odd number of engines. Those crews are incredible.

  • @Slonge92
    @Slonge92 Месяц назад +35

    Thank you! I spent quite a bit of time in the Fairbanks area supporting Air Force and Army programs in the 90s and 00s. I even flew our company King Air 200 from San Diego to Fairbanks round trip (it was faster than flying commercial) to prevent our Army customer from having a meltdown.
    One thing that I noticed in Alaska was the wide assortment of sketchy aircraft that were somehow still airworthy.
    I flew on the mail delivery plane out of Fairbanks on its route inside the arctic circle. I regretted it immediately, but counted on the self preservation instincts of the flight crew and tried to ignore the amount of duct tape.
    Senator Ted Stevens funded our programs which involved precision live training for high activity aircraft and Army weapons systems. It was a sad day when he was killed in a plane crash in Alaska.
    I often wondered if the plane he was flying in was airworthy.
    I grew up around airplanes at the Van Nuys airport, served in the USAF, and worked for Rockwell and Northrop on the B-1 and B-2 programs. In my experience, Alaskan’s have a somewhat different perspective of aircraft and flying.

    • @frankhuber9912
      @frankhuber9912 Месяц назад +7

      Normalization of deviancy. It creeps in silently on little cat feet, bit by bit, until something goes boom.

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Месяц назад +4

      A very good point, yes! According to what Juan said this Aircraft was 82 years old!

  • @grenfellroad8394
    @grenfellroad8394 Месяц назад +21

    So sad. Thanks for the update Juan. Thoughts with the families of the crew.

  • @markjennings2315
    @markjennings2315 Месяц назад +33

    Bless the crew, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a total explosive radial engine failure. So powerful and structurally compromising the port wing and aileron unable to maintain lateral control. I can relate to those pilots who would have been full opposite rudder and starboard aileron but the port wings damage/drag and the engine asymmetry gave them no chance at such a low and relatively slow stage of the flight.
    Very sad day.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Месяц назад +2

      Recip engines rarely fail like that within themselves, what usually happens to cause a catastrophic failure is the props fail and detach, striking another engine or burying into the fuselage.

    • @Georgewilliamherbert
      @Georgewilliamherbert Месяц назад +1

      I saw a DC-3 fly by (towards an airport) with one engine. The other one had a bulkhead and nothing beyond.

    • @ValerieGriner
      @ValerieGriner Месяц назад

      @@Georgewilliamherbert Wow.

    • @hordboy
      @hordboy Месяц назад +3

      That was a crazy engine failure. Usually when it is said an engine “exploded” it’s an exaggeration, but in this case, something very, very catastrophic happened.

    • @mikebridges20
      @mikebridges20 Месяц назад +3

      I'm thinking the fuel tank was damaged from the initial engine failure/fire, and the fuel tank itself exploded.

  • @clicks59
    @clicks59 Месяц назад +4

    Thanks Juan. Condolences to family and friends…

  • @Chris-Nico
    @Chris-Nico Месяц назад +4

    My heart breaks every time you do these reviews Juan. This one is especially tough.
    As a maintenance guy, I will interested to review what the NTSB finds on their investigation what the Mx crews were doing. This operator serves a vital purpose within the state of Alaska.
    RIP to the young aviators and prayers for the families.

  • @artisteric
    @artisteric Месяц назад +20

    They had a good chance of saving it until #1 blew up and destroyed that wing section :(

  • @ericawollmuth5055
    @ericawollmuth5055 Месяц назад +2

    No possible way to second guess the crews actions at this point, but in the C-130 we were taught to decrease power on the operating symmetrical engine to maintain directional control. Bless the families.

  • @pablopeter3564
    @pablopeter3564 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks Mr. Juan Browne for your excellent explanation and reference.

  • @PN_48
    @PN_48 Месяц назад +13

    7:11 looks very much like the port aileron separates. RIP fellas.

  • @ChaiLatte13
    @ChaiLatte13 Месяц назад +3

    Oh man this is heartbreaking. I'm sorry to the families.

  • @jossy573
    @jossy573 Месяц назад +4

    Hi Juan...Good explanation from you as usual. We will hear more from this and I will look to you.
    Just curious how you were able to replay this without any monetization issues from YT.
    As always thanks

  • @hotttt28
    @hotttt28 Месяц назад +22

    Condolences to the family and friends. Your wings are now folded .God Speed on your next flight .

  • @lisasteimer5860
    @lisasteimer5860 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for your always great analysis. I am a big fan of the dc4 and dc3. So sorry for the loss of these gentlemen.

  • @peterredfern1174
    @peterredfern1174 Месяц назад +2

    Very sad ,condolences to both families .thanks Juan for this report,safe flights mate,🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺

  • @Zoeyqd
    @Zoeyqd Месяц назад +18

    R.I.P. crew condolences to loved ones 😿😿😿

  • @TheBullethead
    @TheBullethead Месяц назад +4

    Fair winds and following seas to the crew, and condolences to their friends and families. Very sad.

  • @BogWraith1
    @BogWraith1 Месяц назад +8

    They never had a chance!
    R.I.P. and condolences to their families and friends.

  • @ccpperrett7522
    @ccpperrett7522 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Juan. Sad day. Our condolences to family, friends and co-workers. RIP

  • @PotooBurd
    @PotooBurd Месяц назад +2

    This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌

  • @kari53
    @kari53 Месяц назад +2

    My heart goes out to the families and all the operators and folks at the airfield.
    Huge loss all around.
    💔

  • @redb.3885
    @redb.3885 Месяц назад +10

    So sad. I live under the three mile final to 31R in Chico. That aircraft has flown over my house many times.

  • @underdog2594
    @underdog2594 Месяц назад +7

    Thank you for the readout.

  • @jimbomac55
    @jimbomac55 Месяц назад +25

    I don’t see that as a turn as much as a destroyed wing with no lift

    • @1Long2Short
      @1Long2Short Месяц назад +1

      They were beginning a turn before the explosion took place, as they knew something was wrong.

  • @djgislertxwx6182
    @djgislertxwx6182 Месяц назад +40

    Sad situation

  • @JT-sz7xc
    @JT-sz7xc Месяц назад +3

    Chilling watching this video knowing there was nothing that could be done, my condolences to the family members for their loss.

  • @empireoflizards
    @empireoflizards Месяц назад +15

    These reports are tough to hear and sincere condolences to the pilots' families...but appreciate the briefings, Juan. Top quality channel.

  • @Don.Challenger
    @Don.Challenger Месяц назад +2

    Juan, a very valuable service you provide packaging your associates quality resources into an educational product and following it to the generally conclusive NTSB final report. Sometimes it may make you feel down but you are helping many others fly higher the longer.

  • @eddiehimself
    @eddiehimself Месяц назад +38

    On the same day, we also had a mid air collision in Malaysia that cost 10 people their lives. A sad day for aviation.

    • @RadChick
      @RadChick Месяц назад +7

      And the day before a collision in Japan, 8 lost, 1 rescued.

  • @WhereisAF
    @WhereisAF Месяц назад +4

    A C-54 with an engine fire was lost up here when the emergency landing had to be delayed due to kids on the village airstrip. The wing burned thru as they came around for a second try. Heroic crew..... Everts' museum pieces go over my house north of Fairbanks every day and I watch them every time. They have the last flying C-46 as well as some -6s; all of their -4s are retired in a boneyard at FAI.
    There is a good video onYT of a C-54 landing with an engine fire; the engine drops off the wing on rollout and the crew just barely got out before it was all gone.

    • @andrewalexander9492
      @andrewalexander9492 Месяц назад +4

      That was not a C-54 at a Russian Mission. It was a Northern Air Cargo DC-6. and the "kids on the runway" is a legend with no basis. I have listened to the Cockpit Voice Recorder of the entire accident sequence and there is nothing to suggest that they delayed because of anyone on the runway. In fact, the NTSB report contains a statement from a witness that " He stated there were no children or other
      people on the runway. He was the only one on the airport and he was standing on the parking
      ramp."

  • @plhebel1
    @plhebel1 Месяц назад +2

    Very sad about this loss,, Thank you for reporting about this even tho it hits close to home for you this is one of the places to get unblemished, expert knowledge about industry news, events and losses. RIP.

  • @neilmurgatroyd3197
    @neilmurgatroyd3197 Месяц назад +4

    So sad, thanks Juan

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy Месяц назад +4

    So sad to see another great aircraft and wonderful crew go down.
    And yes, the last transmission from the cockpit is the last thing a pilot ever wants to say, and at the same time HOPES he has time to say it…😢

  • @rossginn1171
    @rossginn1171 Месяц назад +8

    Thank you for always providing great content 👍🏻

  • @markhwirth7718
    @markhwirth7718 Месяц назад +1

    Thanx Juan sad accident !My Brother used to fly DC 3 out of Anchorage! And maintenance was a big issue on these old aircraft !
    Good old airplanes but need big bucks to maintain them properly !

  • @akfarmboy49
    @akfarmboy49 Месяц назад +1

    I live in Fairbanks thank you for the good information on this accident

  • @rrickk159
    @rrickk159 Месяц назад +4

    I love your informative videos! I hate to see the information in them. Keep up your good work.

  • @dananichols1816
    @dananichols1816 Месяц назад +19

    Thanks!

  • @paradoxicalcat7173
    @paradoxicalcat7173 Месяц назад +2

    I usually keep my composure and analytical mind when studying these events, but this one got me. RIP gentlemen.

  • @caledoniawarrior
    @caledoniawarrior Месяц назад +7

    I wish we had something like the maritime sailors cathedral for those lost in flight. A place where we all can visit, remember, and pray for the souls of all aviators no matter their position.

    • @maryl923
      @maryl923 Месяц назад +2

      Please check out the Wildland Firefighter Foundation in Boise, ID. Their walls are covered with all the pilots (and others) lost in the line of duty. It's both the saddest, and most inspirational, place you will ever encounter.

  • @wadem4955
    @wadem4955 Месяц назад +5

    Almost close to home. Did some work on another fuel hauler aircraft operator back in the early 90s whilst in the Army there at Fairbanks.
    Prayers for comfort for all those dealing with this tragic loss.

    • @wadem4955
      @wadem4955 Месяц назад

      @OfficialBlancolirio7 Not challenging... but What's the issue I thought it quite sterile and who remembers the 90s? :)

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 Месяц назад +7

    7:01 Just as you explain the piece of dirt on the screen, track your eyes 3/5 of the way between that and the large cloud to the right, and then straight down. There's a large piece fluttering in the air, descending straight down, which indicates a panel or cowling of some kind and not something with a lot of mass versus surface area.
    If the explosion degraded the efficiency of that left wing to any degree, in that performance envelope... it may as well have not even been there anymore.

  • @jeffwygum3032
    @jeffwygum3032 Месяц назад +2

    Sincere condolences to all of the families, friends and coworkers of the pilots.💔

  • @jadams3427
    @jadams3427 Месяц назад +15

    That's a sad one.

  • @skyepilotte11
    @skyepilotte11 Месяц назад +4

    RIP..captain and first officer...fate is the hunter.
    Thank you Juan

  • @PRC533
    @PRC533 Месяц назад +16

    This is one of those worst case scenario moments where an engine fails during the most vulnerable stage of flight, and with a fully loaded aircraft that's already working hard to climb, I'm not sure there was any saving this. Even if they managed a wings level, gear up landing in terrain, the cargo they are carrying likely would have killed them either just by sheer momentum or in a fire. Unfortunately, up here is where all the old aircraft go once nobody else wants to fly them. On one hand it's really cool to see them flying around, on the other they take a lot of work and skills that most pilots don't have anymore to keep flying.

  • @Tomsnothere
    @Tomsnothere Месяц назад +1

    Sincere condolences to all affected by this tragedy.
    Thanks for all you do to make aviation safer, Juan. I saw you mentioned in an Epoch Times article first thing this morning, calling out the factors contributing to ATC deviations lately. Now if only someone will listen.

  • @atinwoodsman
    @atinwoodsman Месяц назад +27

    Man that's an old airplane, prayers for their friends and families.

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings Месяц назад +1

      The DC-4 built in 1942.......makes it 82 years old

    • @charleshaggard4341
      @charleshaggard4341 Месяц назад +2

      @@pigdroppings My dad was a radio operator on a C-54 in the latter part of WWII. It is indeed an old plane.

    • @isabella-mk3fv
      @isabella-mk3fv Месяц назад +2

      @@pigdroppings When i heard "built in 1942" i literally thought did i hear that right???? Man that's unfathomably old

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Месяц назад

      82 years old.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Месяц назад

      @@isabella-mk3fv but the engines are basically kept nearly new. So many hours between maintenance and rebuilds.

  • @auntykriest
    @auntykriest Месяц назад +35

    You can see in the end how much thinner the left wing is. When that engine went it must have taken the aileron with it. It really looks more like they lost lift on that side and just rolled over stalled and nose dived. Must have been horrifying. RIP crew.

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Месяц назад

      Indeed, exactly.

  • @HeavyForge
    @HeavyForge Месяц назад +1

    That’s so sad! I’m born and raised in Alaska, live in Anchorage and currently working at Anchorage International and it’s just crazy how busy AIA is.

  • @bubblebus1
    @bubblebus1 Месяц назад +1

    I note you did not show the video frame of the aircraft impact. Quite right! You provide the necessary facts and avoid the needless drama. Many thanks

  • @danielmcneill13
    @danielmcneill13 Месяц назад +15

    God bless you guys.
    Praying for you and your families

  • @rusty41251
    @rusty41251 Месяц назад +37

    Flew that guy at Aero Union. The DC-4 is a wonderful flying airplane. When that engine went it must of rendered the airplane unflyable.

    • @PigFinn
      @PigFinn Месяц назад

      Tanker 162, right? Or is this the 54V that used to be 76AU? Tanker 16/76/18?

    • @Delatta1961
      @Delatta1961 Месяц назад

      Explosion probably caused not just a loss of components, leaving the CG off, but in a left turn and the left outboard engine quits, it’s going to roll. I’m wondering if he’d made it taking a right turn back to the airport

    • @stevea6722
      @stevea6722 Месяц назад

      @@Delatta1961 Doubtful, if they were in a left turn already they were woefully behind the power curve and very little time or altitude to get back ahead of it.