20mm back in the day was a bit tight for fancy fuses so the USN deployed Phalanx with solid rounds. If you go up to 30mm you can install fuses and HE. That means your system only has to be close to the target not hit it for a kill.
I'm pretty sure the Russian 30mm ciws only has impact fuses. I know that the Chinese new 30mm CIWS has timed fuses, something like the gepard, they detonate and release Tungsten pellets/spheres
True stories or not, I enjoy the pretext/pretenses under which Cap and CH talk. "I was talking with CH about..." -what is wrong with my car's engine -state of governance in Venezuela -increasing cost of baby clothes in the UK -stocks and shares -having problems with baby nappies (or diapers)
Zircon does actually exist. It entered active service this year, however it will be another year until the ship they were fitted on will be out of refit. Supposedly, the rest of Russia's Destroyers and UKSK vessels will be able to fire them later on (IOC 2025)
to make a warship stealthy even the railings need to be designed with stealth in mind. If you look a detail pics of even early DDG51s the railings fold down in places and have angular stanchions rather than the simple round pipe style used on older ships. The later stealth ships take this further (like the T45) by getting rid of most of the railings and hiding anchor winches below deck
@@deadmeat8754 not necessarily. The Constellations will be packing 32 VLS Mark 41 cells each, plus the SPY-6 radar, and Aegis. So SM-6, SM-3, and quad-packed ESSMs are all available. It won't have as much defense as a Flight III Burke, but the Type 055s only carry so many missiles. 8 SM-6, 8 SM-3, 8 SM-2, and 32 ESSMs is a lot of defensive firepower. In previous battles we've seen the Burke's stalemate against the 055s long before the Burkes ran out of missiles. So the Connies might actually have a chance at living. The Type 045 British destroyers would probably live if they had SM series missiles instead of Aster 30s, which kinda suck. Plus the Connies are going to have 16-pack canisters of anti-ship missiles, either NSM or LRASM. We've already seen how the type 055 does against stealth missiles. I think, worst case scenario, it's mutual annihilation. The Connies run out of ammo and go down, and the 055s can't stop the LRASMs and go down as well.
Carnival should make a cruise ship with 5000 vls cells in place of the a couple of the swimming pools. Should get through into the Black Sea with ease.
small ships are a neglected asset, We're definately missing them for more low end battles, ie: litoral warfare. I know the LCS is in the game but I've never seen you guys use them, and it would be nice to see a type 056a put into the game too, since theres like 70 of them.
To my knowledge LRASM is the only AShM that manage allocation to targets by themself (likely a reverse auto CEC capabilities), even re-routing to avoid air-defense systems if possible, using multi-sensors (at begining with an AESA radar to be shared on AIM-120D missile too, but now is denied on both to be installed) ESM and optical mix. At 5 millions tag price against only one of Tomahawk I believe it have active radar too along a strong AI capabilities and stealthiness! regards
the P-1000/P-500 does ima coppy this from the wiki. "The missiles were intended to be used in salvos - a submarine could launch eight in rapid succession, maintaining control of each through a separate datalink. In flight the group could co-ordinate their actions. One would fly to a higher altitude and use its active radar to search for targets, forwarding this data to the other missiles which remained at low altitude.[3] The missiles were programmed so that half of a salvo would head for a carrier target, with the rest dividing between other ships. If the high-flying missile was shot down, another from the salvo would automatically pop up to take its place. All of the missiles would switch to active radar for the terminal phase of the attack.[4]" Insane for the time but each missile does weight 10,000 lbs so plenty of room for the best 1970s technology.
Are there any plans to make the Halifax class frigate? I am Canadian and I would like to see one of our ships represented. It could be used in combined fleet operations with NATO fleets. Would be cool.
I'd appreciate it as a Canadian too, but they wouldn't shine in DCS. They're strongest at anti-submarine warfare which is just starting to be modded into DCS but isn't used very often.
As I've said in your earlier version of this is this. Naval ships are never, ever unmanned. There is ALWAYS a skeleton crew which is capable of switching on ships self defense systems, at minimum. Totally agree with you over the airfleet not always being on duty, unless at sea. I'm surprised however there are no Patriot batteries protecting the Harbour.
Great battle as always, and well done for CH for making these mods for us!!! Can you do UK Naval Assets(4xType 45, 4xType 26) vs Russian Naval Assets(2x11356R Frigate, 2x22800 Corvette, 2x22350 Frigate, 2x20831 Corvette). So far you done UK vs China(Ships only) USA vs China(Ships only) Russia vs USA(Ships only) Russia vs China(Ships only) but never done a UK vs Russia(Ships only). :(
CH needs to make some Zeroes!! I watched a video of the canoe looking drone boats attacking. I'd like to think Uncle Sam's misguided children and sailors would do a better job at hitting them than Ivan did. Since, you know, they actually shoot real ammunition at real targets regularly.
The Yamato mod has 18" naval guns, and I think the Bismarck mod has big guns too. Edit I know it's not modern, but ya know. I'm pretty sure there are mods of most American ships, these days.
@@DJSockmonkeyMusic I don’t have or never used DCS personally… probably should though. I just think a crazy balls to the wall super unrealistic ship with the large guns of the old days with all the modern protection and radar equipment. Could only imagine how terrifying that would be
@@zingzong5 I think the Zumwalt says a lot about what the US navy thought would be necessary for a quasi battleship. 1. Long range: Being far from shore in an unpredictable place is the best defense against mines, speedboats, and land based ASMs. (Arguably an important thing vs subs). 2. Being difficult to detect. Low RCS and low accoustic signature (obviously, afraid of subs). Measures were also taken to reduce IR signature. 3. Big AESA array and lots of VLS cells for air defense. The Russian quasi battleship, Kirov class, is also designed with a heavy long range armament. Its protection scheme seems to rely on the threat of a nuclear disaster if hit and being usually in disrepair. If the moskva says anything, the layered air defense is broken and its primary armament is prone to catastrophic secondary explosions.
Can you revisit the Grigorovich soon? There is a Steregushiy class corvette Rezkiy and the Admiral Grigorovich proper based in Syria, as well as a single Karakurt. I think it would be interesting to see this fleet against a smaller NATO task force, like an Italian CSG?
What Hypersonic Weapons? The US hasn’t finished development of a single hypersonic missile. Th only nations with finished hypersonic missiles are China and Russia*
@@grimreapers Well, the Grigorovich will be much more vulnerable to the ADM-160s due to the smaller SAM batteries. Also, one thing I saw in the previous sims is that the Krivak class Frigates were represented as Gorshkovs. I think there is a core game Krivak, so just a heads up if you haven't seen that.
I have watched Burke and Tico in dealing with 055, would you mind doing a match between Russian and Chinese escort ship (055, 054B, 052D vs 22350, 11356 etc) battle, please? They carry more offensive weapons on destroyers than American does.
well, the "world's best" american aegis system destroyers also successfully shot down civilian airplane and rammed into civilian ships multiple times, are they working?
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Yeah the YJ-21 isn't really built for small ships, they have a dedicated role of being carrier killers, I very much doubt the YJ-21 would be used in such engagement. Although at YJ-21's speed, it probably makes no difference if the target was moving or not. The ship's speed is negotiable compared to the missile's. And US carriers which it was designed to kill travel at 30+ knots which are no slower than these ships. It is the ship's small size that will present a bigger issue. And the YJ-21 uses a very complex kill-chain (the 055 only serves as a launch platform, the kill chain sensors are mostly airborne or in space) and in real life these small ships will never be targets of such kill chain, and won't be tracked.
Your comment about them hitting the same target doesn't really apply to Western missiles at least, the LRASM for example is a networked missile, they communicate with each other and the aircraft and ships that launched them. They can divide targets up between themselves or via humans to take out ships efficiently. They can target different sections of the ship to mission kill it effectively. Unsure about Chinese and Russian missiles having this capability.
they are putting the RBU-6000 on APC's and using them as ground attack shoot and skoot artillery with some of the Russian naval land forces fighting in Ukraine I saw footage of it on a military news site. it's not just an anti sub weapon to the Russians they are being just as innovative with the weapons they have as the Ukrainian forces are. don't underestimate them.
I still think a fascinating scenario (or set of scenarios) would be related to the Senkaku Islands north of Taiwan. The area is almost exactly equidistant from Kadena and the Chinese bases on the mainland (approximately 450km). The northern air base in Taiwan is a bit closer but the southern base in Taiwan is again almost exactly the same distance. AND...in the real world, it is ACTUALLY disputed territory between Japan, the PRC, and the RoC (aka Taiwan). It's absolutely conceivable (oil, symbilosm, strategic location, hurtful statements and bad feelings, etc.) that significantly interesting things could happen in that area that could make multiple countries be motivated to do some interesting things.
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You forgot one simple thing: this is not real battle, and whole outcome of such videos are pure speculations made out of assumptions known on public - which can be far from reality. Any military would lie about their equipment and weapons, especially at time before conflict. And only real combat shows all the truth - like hopeless, burning Leopards, Challengers, Strikers and Bradleys at the real battlefield.
I really wonder about China's ability in warfare. Have they built all of their boats and planes in the same way they've built their houses? I mean, is it all just meant to LOOK real, but actually it's cardboard surrounded by concrete that's crumbling from within?
@@hughmungus2760 Are you comparing a shipping vessel to a war vessel? That's like comparing a tee-shirt and bathing suit to a business suit, briefcase and cell phone.
@@yeeeehaaawbuddy they're both built in the same shipyards by the same companies. The level of worksmanship carries across. Plus its more relevant than comparing warships to apartment buildings.
Judging from the proportion of China's construction manufacturing volume and problems, China's construction quality is also very high, even the best in the world.
24:40, i hate when there is such stupid combo, what the hell these patrol boats are doing here, everyone know type 055 has way more missiles than any small frigate but still you doing a 2v2, why at least you could have taken 1 055 instead of 2 or could have increase the number of frigates to 4. edit> 26:00 you got a second chance to correct this or make the battle somewhat even but you still :( 28:18, 055 has so many defensive missiles there is no way few onix can get through specially when they can see them from soo far away, they got all the time, enough defensive missiles and seems like infinite radar coverage.
Not a single of thsse 22160 was sunk in real life, they are actually doing great and they protected against all attacks. Ukraine claims to have damaged Sergey Kotov ship, but their claims without proof are as sure as their claim of taking out the admiral.
This is, perhaps, a more likely scenario than seems possible. As Russia spends a generation of its increasingly smaller pool of young people and massive amounts of equipment in Ukraine, the Russian Far east is denuded of experienced defense forces. at some point, the Peoples republic of China will make a move to reclaim asian territories stolen by the Russian Empire. The Sino-Soviet (Russian) border conflict of 1969 was the result of one such long standing territorial dispute.
No no. It will be really difficult for the Chinese to defend their billion dollar ships in real life. Cheap drones,Lightweight torpedoes,UUV's etc will rip it apart.
Everything you mentioned have a range of less than 100km. The torpedoes even less. The missiles these large capital ships have have ranges of several hundred Kms to thousands of Kms.... And the 055 has one of the best sensor suits in the world today. How on earth are you going to get close to them alive to fire your shots? The times Ukraine succeeded against Russian ships were all situations in which the Russians either never expected attacks or when ships were docked at port (i.e. not on duty). It was more of a indication of Russian negligence than capability of these systems. They should be seen as sabotage missions than naval combat. Even if you by miracle got within range to launch your suicide drones, do you think the CIWS which are designed to shoot down missiles flying at supersonic speeds will have any issues dealing with the slow moving drones?
@@tonglianheng Not true. 1. RUSSIAN nuclear powered torpedoes can circle the globe. 2. How many missiles can these Capital ships carry?. A land based unit can cary a hundred times that number. 3. Sensor suites are active and passive. Active sensors invite the enemy. 4. The newest UAV's UUV's and Surface drones have hundreds of kilometers of autonomous range. 5. A late 2000 glide bomb has a range of around 150 kms. Imagine that weapon carrying a cluster of Submunitions dispersed well before an intercept by a sea based HQ9 or HQ16 system. 5. The purpose of the 055 054A 052C 052D is to ensure a Zero Sum Game. It ensures China's adversaries are either sunk or left with heavy bleeding so that it prevents the enemy from ever attempting a misadventure. China knows it cannot always emerge a Victor.
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20mm back in the day was a bit tight for fancy fuses so the USN deployed Phalanx with solid rounds. If you go up to 30mm you can install fuses and HE. That means your system only has to be close to the target not hit it for a kill.
I'm pretty sure the Russian 30mm ciws only has impact fuses.
I know that the Chinese new 30mm CIWS has timed fuses, something like the gepard, they detonate and release Tungsten pellets/spheres
I like the bigger bore rounds coming out these days. The modern 35, 40 & 50mm airburst rounds are epic.
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Nice work CH. Great review Cap!
True stories or not, I enjoy the pretext/pretenses under which Cap and CH talk.
"I was talking with CH about..."
-what is wrong with my car's engine
-state of governance in Venezuela
-increasing cost of baby clothes in the UK
-stocks and shares
-having problems with baby nappies (or diapers)
Yup, exactly! I came here to say just this 💯
These all seems like important topics to me.
Love this kind of battle cap, keep up the great work ❤
Love all the work you , CH and the GR crew do #SuperCap .
There’s so much footage of the patrol ships destroying the naval drones though
Roger, I've only seen a few snippets TBH.
Zircon does actually exist. It entered active service this year, however it will be another year until the ship they were fitted on will be out of refit. Supposedly, the rest of Russia's Destroyers and UKSK vessels will be able to fire them later on (IOC 2025)
I love this kind of Smashy BOOM BOOM video! CH and GR are made in heaven 😊😊😊😊
My favorite mod maker and favorite DCS tester. Best of the best.
30:50 a shame that such damage is rarely simulated/implemented to a good degree
nice to see some russia vs china
Give it a year or 2, it will be for real...hint* Manchuria
@@Milleniumlance haha
to make a warship stealthy even the railings need to be designed with stealth in mind. If you look a detail pics of even early DDG51s the railings fold down in places and have angular stanchions rather than the simple round pipe style used on older ships. The later stealth ships take this further (like the T45) by getting rid of most of the railings and hiding anchor winches below deck
Would love to see the CH version of a Constellation class frigate.
We also would like a Zumwalt ship too
Yeah, nah, because cap would run it against the Type 55 and it would meet a similar fate to these over-matched Russian punching bags.
@@deadmeat8754 true can wait for the updated Kirov cruiser to come out, that has insane amount of weapons on it
@@deadmeat8754 not necessarily. The Constellations will be packing 32 VLS Mark 41 cells each, plus the SPY-6 radar, and Aegis. So SM-6, SM-3, and quad-packed ESSMs are all available. It won't have as much defense as a Flight III Burke, but the Type 055s only carry so many missiles. 8 SM-6, 8 SM-3, 8 SM-2, and 32 ESSMs is a lot of defensive firepower. In previous battles we've seen the Burke's stalemate against the 055s long before the Burkes ran out of missiles. So the Connies might actually have a chance at living. The Type 045 British destroyers would probably live if they had SM series missiles instead of Aster 30s, which kinda suck. Plus the Connies are going to have 16-pack canisters of anti-ship missiles, either NSM or LRASM. We've already seen how the type 055 does against stealth missiles. I think, worst case scenario, it's mutual annihilation. The Connies run out of ammo and go down, and the 055s can't stop the LRASMs and go down as well.
@@danraj23ful a Zumwalt would be cool as well. Especially if they futurize it and it's got the hypersonic missiles that are going to be added to it.
Carnival should make a cruise ship with 5000 vls cells in place of the a couple of the swimming pools.
Should get through into the Black Sea with ease.
It would be quite festive;-) Have a great day.
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Not rreally, GR1 is heavily restricted, won't be able to do it for much longer sadly.
small ships are a neglected asset, We're definately missing them for more low end battles, ie: litoral warfare. I know the LCS is in the game but I've never seen you guys use them, and it would be nice to see a type 056a put into the game too, since theres like 70 of them.
I think the LCS is a bit buggy in multiplayer, so Cap often leaves them out (but does mention why he left them out when he does)
To my knowledge LRASM is the only AShM that manage allocation to targets by themself (likely a reverse auto CEC capabilities), even re-routing to avoid air-defense systems if possible, using multi-sensors (at begining with an AESA radar to be shared on AIM-120D missile too, but now is denied on both to be installed) ESM and optical mix. At 5 millions tag price against only one of Tomahawk I believe it have active radar too along a strong AI capabilities and stealthiness!
regards
the P-1000/P-500 does ima coppy this from the wiki.
"The missiles were intended to be used in salvos - a submarine could launch eight in rapid succession, maintaining control of each through a separate datalink. In flight the group could co-ordinate their actions. One would fly to a higher altitude and use its active radar to search for targets, forwarding this data to the other missiles which remained at low altitude.[3]
The missiles were programmed so that half of a salvo would head for a carrier target, with the rest dividing between other ships. If the high-flying missile was shot down, another from the salvo would automatically pop up to take its place. All of the missiles would switch to active radar for the terminal phase of the attack.[4]"
Insane for the time but each missile does weight 10,000 lbs so plenty of room for the best 1970s technology.
"That's the best CWIS I've ever see-" BOOM! 😜
“Danger Mouse” LOL - used to watch that 40 years ago in US! Great fun
Are there any plans to make the Halifax class frigate? I am Canadian and I would like to see one of our ships represented. It could be used in combined fleet operations with NATO fleets.
Would be cool.
I'd appreciate it as a Canadian too, but they wouldn't shine in DCS. They're strongest at anti-submarine warfare which is just starting to be modded into DCS but isn't used very often.
you probably don't want to see that lol. I'm Canadian and I know those things would be absolutely useless.
Great Graphics CH; You Can Even See The Shock Waves From Missile Impacts...
As I've said in your earlier version of this is this. Naval ships are never, ever unmanned.
There is ALWAYS a skeleton crew which is capable of switching on ships self defense systems, at minimum.
Totally agree with you over the airfleet not always being on duty, unless at sea.
I'm surprised however there are no Patriot batteries protecting the Harbour.
Wrong video I think? You're talking about the Chinese attack on San Diego vid, yeah?
Rheinmetal Skynex ;)CH you've made air burst before!?
HHQ9B's seem to perfrom a little bit bad.
The 9M317M missile is known as the Shtil air defense system.
I was so wanting you to shoot the birds flying around the harbor with the smaller boat guns....
That would be just rude :)
THANK YOU !!! Finally the grigorovich.
Please try to do the krivak class
Great battle as always, and well done for CH for making these mods for us!!! Can you do UK Naval Assets(4xType 45, 4xType 26) vs Russian Naval Assets(2x11356R Frigate, 2x22800 Corvette, 2x22350 Frigate, 2x20831 Corvette). So far you done UK vs China(Ships only) USA vs China(Ships only) Russia vs USA(Ships only) Russia vs China(Ships only) but never done a UK vs Russia(Ships only). :(
OK
Animated sailors. At last! Great work!
Thanks Cap and CH!
CH needs to make some Zeroes!! I watched a video of the canoe looking drone boats attacking. I'd like to think Uncle Sam's misguided children and sailors would do a better job at hitting them than Ivan did. Since, you know, they actually shoot real ammunition at real targets regularly.
Yes Ik this would never happen, but I’d love to see a modern version of a battle ship with 16” cannons
The Yamato mod has 18" naval guns, and I think the Bismarck mod has big guns too.
Edit I know it's not modern, but ya know. I'm pretty sure there are mods of most American ships, these days.
@@DJSockmonkeyMusic I don’t have or never used DCS personally… probably should though. I just think a crazy balls to the wall super unrealistic ship with the large guns of the old days with all the modern protection and radar equipment. Could only imagine how terrifying that would be
@@zingzong5 I think the Zumwalt says a lot about what the US navy thought would be necessary for a quasi battleship.
1. Long range: Being far from shore in an unpredictable place is the best defense against mines, speedboats, and land based ASMs. (Arguably an important thing vs subs).
2. Being difficult to detect. Low RCS and low accoustic signature (obviously, afraid of subs). Measures were also taken to reduce IR signature.
3. Big AESA array and lots of VLS cells for air defense.
The Russian quasi battleship, Kirov class, is also designed with a heavy long range armament. Its protection scheme seems to rely on the threat of a nuclear disaster if hit and being usually in disrepair. If the moskva says anything, the layered air defense is broken and its primary armament is prone to catastrophic secondary explosions.
Ty man
Can you revisit the Grigorovich soon? There is a Steregushiy class corvette Rezkiy and the Admiral Grigorovich proper based in Syria, as well as a single Karakurt. I think it would be interesting to see this fleet against a smaller NATO task force, like an Italian CSG?
The next step for anti missile defence against hypersonic missiles? An EM "Dazzler" that overwhelm the seeker head with electromagnetic radiation.
As the Zumwalt is now in Mississippi for refit with hypersonic weapons, it would be nice to see her in game. 😁
What Hypersonic Weapons? The US hasn’t finished development of a single hypersonic missile. Th only nations with finished hypersonic missiles are China and Russia*
@@tetraxis3011 IR-CPS
@@Dawnbandit1 Still under development. And is quite a long way off being finished. YJ21 and Zircon misiles are finished.
@@tetraxis3011 Ill let you do your own research.
@@MrNakedweasel Um. If you state something it is YOUR job to list the source, or at minimum give a general pointer to a source.
Love to hear CH’s humor 😂😂
They're having a mid-off
i hope a Zumwalt (with guns that have the ammo) could be made in DCS
Can you run any more simulations with an updated Black Sea Fleet now that you got these boats?
rgr, doubt it will change the results much though.
@@grimreapers Well, the Grigorovich will be much more vulnerable to the ADM-160s due to the smaller SAM batteries.
Also, one thing I saw in the previous sims is that the Krivak class Frigates were represented as Gorshkovs. I think there is a core game Krivak, so just a heads up if you haven't seen that.
Is there a Zumwalt model for DCS?
Don't think so.
Woohoo! more CH toys :)
I have watched Burke and Tico in dealing with 055, would you mind doing a match between Russian and Chinese escort ship (055, 054B, 052D vs 22350, 11356 etc) battle, please? They carry more offensive weapons on destroyers than American does.
Hedgehog
Very interesting video, this is all of course if Russian weapons are working.
well, the "world's best" american aegis system destroyers also successfully shot down civilian airplane and rammed into civilian ships multiple times, are they working?
@@timothy1949 It's almost like every system has flaws. Unlike Russia, the US likes to work out the flaws before a conflict.
Or manned.
@@timothy1949 You just said they are.
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22160 is a VERY sexy boat!
CH how about some Cold War era warships?? Give yourself a challenge!!
Can you add floating suicide drones into the DCS and see how they fare against those ships?
Trying.
The chance of a balistic YJ21 missile hitting a moving corvette is close to 0.
Several successful test launches have been conducted focusing on mobile target ships thousands of kilometers away
source ?@@XkMeng
Yeah the YJ-21 isn't really built for small ships, they have a dedicated role of being carrier killers, I very much doubt the YJ-21 would be used in such engagement.
Although at YJ-21's speed, it probably makes no difference if the target was moving or not. The ship's speed is negotiable compared to the missile's. And US carriers which it was designed to kill travel at 30+ knots which are no slower than these ships. It is the ship's small size that will present a bigger issue. And the YJ-21 uses a very complex kill-chain (the 055 only serves as a launch platform, the kill chain sensors are mostly airborne or in space) and in real life these small ships will never be targets of such kill chain, and won't be tracked.
Your comment about them hitting the same target doesn't really apply to Western missiles at least, the LRASM for example is a networked missile, they communicate with each other and the aircraft and ships that launched them. They can divide targets up between themselves or via humans to take out ships efficiently. They can target different sections of the ship to mission kill it effectively. Unsure about Chinese and Russian missiles having this capability.
Roger, it's really just a problem in game.
Some Russian anti-ship missiles have such capability altleast from early 80's.
Hey CH, awesome work! Do you plan on doing a modernized version of the moscow?
Submarine version?
@@grimreapers 😜
This the one that got hit in the Black Sea a few days ago? The 11356R?
rgr
I think it would have been more interesting to see 11356R go against 054A or 054B. They are more comparable in class.
How Long it must take too make These models is freaking amazing in my opinion
Now we know
should have doubled the russian ships or use 1 055
HEY CAP. what about the Gremyashchiy class corvette.
they are putting the RBU-6000 on APC's and using them as ground attack shoot and skoot artillery with some of the Russian naval land forces fighting in Ukraine I saw footage of it on a military news site. it's not just an anti sub weapon to the Russians they are being just as innovative with the weapons they have as the Ukrainian forces are. don't underestimate them.
I still think a fascinating scenario (or set of scenarios) would be related to the Senkaku Islands north of Taiwan.
The area is almost exactly equidistant from Kadena and the Chinese bases on the mainland (approximately 450km). The northern air base in Taiwan is a bit closer but the southern base in Taiwan is again almost exactly the same distance.
AND...in the real world, it is ACTUALLY disputed territory between Japan, the PRC, and the RoC (aka Taiwan). It's absolutely conceivable (oil, symbilosm, strategic location, hurtful statements and bad feelings, etc.) that significantly interesting things could happen in that area that could make multiple countries be motivated to do some interesting things.
Are there any Indian ships in game?
Neg
Ask CH which software he uses to produce the 3D models of ships and missiles?
Im waiting for the Zircon hypersonic missile
The time you wish both sides loose ...
rgr
New vessel Coalition vs coalition Russia china vs Uk America cap?
Full strike groups readjusting everything
Yes I suppose we are due that aren't we.
CH Please create-- Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System NSM and Tomahawk! THAAD!* Modular SM-6 Launcher! Starstreak Thor! Stryker M-SHORAD! Hypersonic Blitzer Cannon! Strategic Long Range Cannon! Switchblade Drones! LOCUST Drone Launcher! BLU-129! AGM-129A! B 61 MOD 12! SM-6 Block 1B! San Antonio class and Zumwalt class!!🙏👍
Does anyone know if these makes work in the steam version thanks for the vid
could u build the zumwalts?
It's on CH's list.
@@grimreapers by 2025 they while carry the C-HGB might be cool to give them those
LOL those P800s are also known as Brahmos and according to some "the best in the world". None managed to penetrate through xd.
You forgot one simple thing: this is not real battle, and whole outcome of such videos are pure speculations made out of assumptions known on public - which can be far from reality.
Any military would lie about their equipment and weapons, especially at time before conflict.
And only real combat shows all the truth - like hopeless, burning Leopards, Challengers, Strikers and Bradleys at the real battlefield.
@@DobryakDobreyshiyyep like israeli tanks considered one of most advance but got destroyed by cheap drones
@@arceuslee7087 most military getting ready for past wars, but not for new ones.
navy vessels in dcs are selectable or just a addon dlc type?
Mod links in vid description.
Hi I am a Chinese YJ-18
And Hi I am a Russian P-800
Wait...
Why are we going in opposite direction?
Can you make models of Taiwanese navy fleet ships? I really want to see how Taiwan's navy fares against one Type 055.
Lol Taiwan ‘s KIDD class would be flattened and last about 4 seconds
@@majingwei
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I really wonder about China's ability in warfare. Have they built all of their boats and planes in the same way they've built their houses? I mean, is it all just meant to LOOK real, but actually it's cardboard surrounded by concrete that's crumbling from within?
china is the world's largest commercial shipbuilder, if their ships were bad everyone would know about it by now.
@@hughmungus2760 Are you comparing a shipping vessel to a war vessel? That's like comparing a tee-shirt and bathing suit to a business suit, briefcase and cell phone.
@@yeeeehaaawbuddy they're both built in the same shipyards by the same companies.
The level of worksmanship carries across.
Plus its more relevant than comparing warships to apartment buildings.
Judging from the proportion of China's construction manufacturing volume and problems, China's construction quality is also very high, even the best in the world.
@@hughmungus2760 Warships what matter far more is the systems fitted to the hull. And for that we have no way to judge how good or bad they are.
24:40, i hate when there is such stupid combo, what the hell these patrol boats are doing here, everyone know type 055 has way more missiles than any small frigate but still you doing a 2v2, why
at least you could have taken 1 055 instead of 2 or could have increase the number of frigates to 4.
edit> 26:00
you got a second chance to correct this or make the battle somewhat even but you still :(
28:18, 055 has so many defensive missiles there is no way few onix can get through specially when they can see them from soo far away, they got all the time, enough defensive missiles and seems like infinite radar coverage.
who won?
Team 055 won
@@Chickenworm9394 thx
Not a single of thsse 22160 was sunk in real life, they are actually doing great and they protected against all attacks. Ukraine claims to have damaged Sergey Kotov ship, but their claims without proof are as sure as their claim of taking out the admiral.
This is, perhaps, a more likely scenario than seems possible. As Russia spends a generation of its increasingly smaller pool of young people and massive amounts of equipment in Ukraine, the Russian Far east is denuded of experienced defense forces. at some point, the Peoples republic of China will make a move to reclaim asian territories stolen by the Russian Empire. The Sino-Soviet (Russian) border conflict of 1969 was the result of one such long standing territorial dispute.
No no. It will be really difficult for the Chinese to defend their billion dollar ships in real life. Cheap drones,Lightweight torpedoes,UUV's etc will rip it apart.
So you're basically saying Iran can easily rip any US fleet apart.
@@robertlee6529 Iran and USA, not happening? Clean USA Victory
Everything you mentioned have a range of less than 100km. The torpedoes even less. The missiles these large capital ships have have ranges of several hundred Kms to thousands of Kms.... And the 055 has one of the best sensor suits in the world today. How on earth are you going to get close to them alive to fire your shots?
The times Ukraine succeeded against Russian ships were all situations in which the Russians either never expected attacks or when ships were docked at port (i.e. not on duty). It was more of a indication of Russian negligence than capability of these systems. They should be seen as sabotage missions than naval combat.
Even if you by miracle got within range to launch your suicide drones, do you think the CIWS which are designed to shoot down missiles flying at supersonic speeds will have any issues dealing with the slow moving drones?
@@tonglianheng Not true.
1. RUSSIAN nuclear powered torpedoes can circle the globe.
2. How many missiles can these Capital ships carry?. A land based unit can cary a hundred times that number.
3. Sensor suites are active and passive. Active sensors invite the enemy.
4. The newest UAV's UUV's and Surface drones have hundreds of kilometers of autonomous range.
5. A late 2000 glide bomb has a range of around 150 kms. Imagine that weapon carrying a cluster of Submunitions dispersed well before an intercept by a sea based HQ9 or HQ16 system.
5. The purpose of the 055 054A 052C 052D is to ensure a Zero Sum Game. It ensures China's adversaries are either sunk or left with heavy bleeding so that it prevents the enemy from ever attempting a misadventure. China knows it cannot always emerge a Victor.