Every time Bungie says that SMGs are overpowered, and nerf something about them, the very same patch introduces a new overpowered option for SMGs. It's a running joke at this point O_o
@@squeebploozer it's hilarious, though, ifatfrost thinks he's a "pro" pvper, too, but, got ran in Halo and gets ran in apex...only to return to the safety of destiny lobbies. Lmaooo
my first drop of this was rangefinder, fragile focus, range masterwork, accurized rounds, and fluted barrel only problem is i just don't like smgs so this thing feels like complete trash in my hands, into the vault it goes
@Musmasi a 900 rpm smg with onslaught would be 1200 rpm or so on max. In theory is works but because you get a bigger magazine with 900s. But Idk that would be cool to see.
In the genetic slot, it's fairly decent....BUT... If you like SMG's (600rpm)... don't sleep on the one from NeoMuna .... If you have fairly decent aim... use THIS ROLL.. Full Bore Ricochet rounds Slick draw Target lock Range master work ... 100 handling 78 range (21.5m)
While I agree that this smg cooks and alot of people will use it, I don't think it's going to last that long with multimach returning. People will go back to their old ways and grind to get the best roll possible and stick with that smg for a long long time. Just my opinion
My Guardian and Ghost turning on Friendly Fire when I see the sweaty peacekeeper void titan empty half his mag to melt the first engagement as if he already didnt have an unfair advantage in Comp
Love how new .5ttk what about true immortal with .5 ttk? No one talked about. I need my target lock immortal….. no it’s kill clip immortal. Zk I played you in trials other week with it. You still rolled me.
I didn't even know this was happening, I went into prophecy for the wish quest. I have been farming it every week trying to get the hand cannon again because I deleted my characters outta anger a while back. Been wondering why it wouldn't drop lol... Got the surprise of Relentless (and old favorite from back when trials of the 9 was a thing) Also got this SMG, with target lock...
They do it's hard to close the gap in this game. But people watch trials on pc where 90% players are cheaters and the rest 10% is top 1% players who'd kill you with a wet noodle. Snipers are the problem with their free in built aimbot when arguing pk titans not yhe smgs.@@ponch2564
Every time Bungie says that SMGs are overpowered, and nerf something about them, the very same patch introduces a new overpowered option for SMGs.
It's a running joke at this point O_o
hand cannons are always the most usage and never get nerfed
how come bungie never says hand cannons are overpowered even though the most used primarys are always hand cannons?
@@cryengine_xcause they aren’t op. sounds like a skill issue
@@exstasia yes skill issue thats why so many use hand cannon
@@cryengine_x i was talking about your skill since you’re complaining about bungie never nerfing them
I LOVE when I hear PVP Pros, just gamers in general who have played this game consistently for years say, " Its so fun to use!". 9- 10 years later :)
Imagine thinking zk is an fps "pro." Lmaooooooop
@@simplylethul it's not that serious
@@squeebploozer it's hilarious, though, ifatfrost thinks he's a "pro" pvper, too, but, got ran in Halo and gets ran in apex...only to return to the safety of destiny lobbies. Lmaooo
@@simplylethulatleast we know that you are the pro in trashtalking
@@spacedoritos at least actual pro fps players, like, Lucid, know that there are no "pro" d2 pvpers.
There was no lag with that warlock bud. He used the electric slide and got you
my first drop of this was rangefinder, fragile focus, range masterwork, accurized rounds, and fluted barrel
only problem is i just don't like smgs so this thing feels like complete trash in my hands, into the vault it goes
zk when he uses anything other than a handcannon:
2:18 you didn't have devour or controlled demo proc'd yet. Even if you did you got melted.
Onslaught on a 900 rpm smg turns it into a trace rifle? Is there one? Would it even work?
This is the only smg with onslaught I think
It’s a 600 rpm into a 810 ish
@Musmasi a 900 rpm smg with onslaught would be 1200 rpm or so on max. In theory is works but because you get a bigger magazine with 900s. But Idk that would be cool to see.
@@GigaLadd yeah it would go Brrrrrr
I got the 2019 god-roll of Adjudicator last night. Rampage/Feeding Frenzy and I like it better than the Target lock/Perpetual motion roll I also got.
Recluse will be returning soon, if you havent noticed the ornaments returned for recluse / hammerhead.
In the exotic kiosk?
I've got perpetual, and target lock on mine and it feels so friggin good!
Does anybody know what the ornament for those arms are? I know it’s probably not attainable I’m just curious. Thank you
It's from one of the Leviathan raids I think
Dam! Just from the first 3 kills I already want this role. This things gonna slap thanks for the vid.
That reticle is clean af!
In the genetic slot, it's fairly decent....BUT... If you like SMG's (600rpm)... don't sleep on the one from NeoMuna .... If you have fairly decent aim... use THIS ROLL..
Full Bore
Ricochet rounds
Slick draw
Target lock
Range master work ...
100 handling
78 range (21.5m)
I still haven’t got a decent one… just 50 shotguns I won’t use over matador 😂
Been running Last Word and Longarm, shit is so fun def recommend it.
Bro a very underrated I run it too it's so much fun especially with a solar build
@mysticz9046 I'm gonna rock this rest of the season, it's too fun. I've been rocking it with solar too
I got a max range roll with rangefinder rampage
Can be difficult to keep onlslaught going in 3v3
Another Smg with outrageous amount of range. Luckily it has low zoom
Zoom doesn’t affect anything too crazy anymore. In other words, it’s another smg similar to shayuras and unending tempest
it has 15 zoom with rf. that is more than other smg's. not sure what youre talking about
@@BombStars affects hit reg, very noticable.
@@diabolusabsconditus oh well I never really liked high zoom on guns that usually have low zoom. It makes me feel claustrophobic in hun fights
Gun*
The damage buff from the origin trait only shows up on the last 2 bullets in the magazine. No real damage buff in pvp.
The last half of the mag so you could proc target lock aswell.
*for the last 15 bullets. it says "dark" on the left of the screen when it triggers. you can see it in the video.
Smg don't bother me at all, I just hit em with a Jotuun and they switch their guns. Then I run the smg lol
While I agree that this smg cooks and alot of people will use it, I don't think it's going to last that long with multimach returning. People will go back to their old ways and grind to get the best roll possible and stick with that smg for a long long time. Just my opinion
Multimach is mid now..
Does not matter, it looks better than multimach, looks is more important
900s got nerfed you can't run the 0 stability max range rolls anymore and hope to compete with immortal and the stasis crucible one.
My Guardian and Ghost turning on Friendly Fire when I see the sweaty peacekeeper void titan empty half his mag to melt the first engagement as if he already didnt have an unfair advantage in Comp
Hot take i like low zooms better
Love how new .5ttk what about true immortal with .5 ttk? No one talked about. I need my target lock immortal….. no it’s kill clip immortal. Zk I played you in trials other week with it. You still rolled me.
Lmao this guy is so funny sometimes 😂 Rangefinder gives you no extra zoom since ages ago 😂😂😂😂
I believe it still does just that the zoom stat does not affect range anymore... But it's still visually there
Its def boosts zoom brother. Doesn't increase range tho
I didn't even know this was happening, I went into prophecy for the wish quest.
I have been farming it every week trying to get the hand cannon again because I deleted my characters outta anger a while back.
Been wondering why it wouldn't drop lol...
Got the surprise of Relentless (and old favorite from back when trials of the 9 was a thing)
Also got this SMG, with target lock...
Whoever at bungie thought this was a good idea. I would like to speak with them.
Merc thinks smgs have a high skill ceiling LOL
To be fair, the odds for the common player to hit this ttk is low. Possible but unless you hit all crits, you’re more likely to get punished.
They do it's hard to close the gap in this game.
But people watch trials on pc where 90% players are cheaters and the rest 10% is top 1% players who'd kill you with a wet noodle.
Snipers are the problem with their free in built aimbot when arguing pk titans not yhe smgs.@@ponch2564
Auto rifles are more Op
the reload speed on this is fucking abysmal.
It’s awesome
I love how people cry about smgs.
Legend
I got 2 g roll autos off the bat I definitely need this
So it’s just better tarrabah…
Oh look a so called pvp pro that doesn't playthe objective
I hate the sound of this gun
Trials is gonna be interesting this week….
omg someone is using something besides a hand cannon in destiny bungie do something....dead game
Well... it's a smg, so....
Haha what a hot take 😂
Hand cannon is what made destiny PvP good
@@BillyKidCOD hand cannons killed destiny due to lack of skill
@@rodrigo_tem7letras yeah and he's whining and complaining because someone can use something besides a hand cannon, so...but thats zk, he's a pos
First. Love you Zk!!!
Very average pvp player - playing meta too - yikes.
Upload videos of you
You mean very very good pvp player doing a video in one take on a mid roll of the new gun?
The pvp roll everyone should be getting is accurized rounds, threat detecter and fragile focus that gives you 100 range