Flag Smashers are straight up Villains
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2022
- Flashback to Sam still trying to reason Karli after Death threats, Theft, Kidnapping, murder, terrorism..
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"You have to stop calling them terrorists" he said after they had committed several acts of terrorism
That's the problem with Falcon. Now the refugees I get because they're technically not part of the Flag Smashers, even though they support them. And I get why he's reluctant to kill Karli because she's just a kid (19 but still). But denying that the Flag Smashers are terrorists is just plain ridiculous especially since he has seen first hand how they're willing to use violence, corruption, and use hostages to get what they want but Falcon repeatedly insists they aren't terrorists which is way too damn annoying.
People were angry at Walker for what he did to the flag smasher but I guarantee if it was Wolverine who would have done much worse people wouldn't bat an eye
Wolverine is not federally sanctioned.
John Walker was the real hero of Falcon and Winter Soldier.
You can't change my freakin mind
And we don’t want to
I won't
Falcon’s acting like the flag smashers were misunderstood ._. No no they were not they were straight up terrorists, kidnapping/bombing people, killing Lemar (god rest his soul) and literally attempted murder on Falcon and Bucky a few times. And they are not terrorists why? I don’t know it’s not even an assumption it’s factual.
Woke writers 🤷🏻
Because we’ve got lousy writers who are gonna butcher everything Captain America stands for.
Obviously I understand that Walker killing that guy was not good, but how are we expected to antagonize John when we've spent years watching Sam and Steven kill people too? people who didn't just murder their best friend in front of them???
it's such a shame cause walker could've had such a wonderful arc of trying to be the best Captain America he can be, learning that while his rage in that moment was justified, that isn't the Captain America the world needed. oh I would've died for that
Yeah, it really didn't feel like his redemption arc was earned, and concluded too quickly when they really could've expanded on his character development. Also as much I respect Sam and love his character and progression to becoming Captian America, I have to disagree when it comes to him saying they weren't terrorists as Karli literally blew up a supply shelter full of tied-up soldiers as well as held an entire United Nation meeting hostage, while visibly attempting to kill other elected officials. I greatly respect the moral/ethical perspective of this situation from Sam's point of view, but at the end of the day they were in fact terrorists, and committed murders, regardless of a, in retrospect, pretty unclear/unfocused motivation. I still enjoyed the show regardless and just my critiques. l really
@@milkiassamuel780 what redemption arc
@@themindeclectic9821 When John decides to save the truck full of hostages instead of going after Karli for revenge, and by doing that he is suddenly redeemed and active, sure not officially as Captain America, but as US Agent for the Thunderbolts.
It just feels very quickly resolved and makes his character less interesting, and less of a counterpart to Steve.
I just feel like it could've been more interesting if he did in fact go after Karli instead of attempting to save the truck of hostages, cemented how much of a juxtaposition he is for Steve and Sam.
There is a great video by @NandovMovies that covers this discussion in further detail:
ruclips.net/video/W4zijGlt5dM/видео.html
@@milkiassamuel780 I don't see how that's a redemption arc at all. What was he redeeming?
Yeah, he could’ve learned that he’s not Steve (i.e.- What America can be). He’s a good soldier, a good agent, first. He’s what America IS.
And people hate on walker lol
Steve Rogers fanboys
Yeah fr why is that. I kinda feel like John Walker was the real hero of this show
@@warsthemarvel8608 I’m a Steve Rogers fan and I also like John Walker.
John Walker and Lamar were the only likable heroes. Bucky and Sam were turned into narcissistic obnoxious douchebags
I don't
0:06 - 0:12
When she later said, “Not to my fight. I just want the people on that truck.”, I literally said, “B***H PLEASE!!!”.
A bold show that dares to ask the question; "but what if we DID negotiate with terrorists?"
Bold??
"yOu' vE gOttA dO bEtTer sEnatoR"
I prefer good guys that don’t take half measures 🤷♂️
People call them anti-heroes these days.
Whyyy man whyy just why. The writer's aren't getting paid enough it looks like
flag smashers get victimized like they haven't done terrible things
“You have to stop calling them terrorists.”
Meanwhile a list of all the horrible crimes Karli has committed throughout the show:
Murder
TERRORISM
Conspiracy
Hijacking
Hostage taking
Breaking and Entering
Bombings
Trespassing
Theft
Obstruction of Justice
If that’s not terrorism in “Captain America’s” eyes, Steve should take that fucking shield back from SAMN Lmfaoooo💀.
If you have a reason that YOU think is sad enough, it's okay to terrorize people, you're only gonna be seen as a misguided kid, got it.
Was wondering for a while, what do u think about upcoming phase 5 and 6 of mcu?
Doesn't look good. But I'll keep watching just cause it feeds my content.
I hate this character so much I just want bad things happen to her.
And yet you say Thanos was right...
I really like this show but my GOD the flagsmashers sucked
Innocent because they sit at the high table and commands death of millions
You think they don't try to efficiently use the resources they have? Maybe flagsmashers shouldn't blow up trucks with those resources?