“Drug Decriminalisation Doesn’t Work” | Peter Hitchens' Half Hour

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  • @Emc2-n2t
    @Emc2-n2t Год назад +3

    Drugs are a medical issue not a criminal one. Empathy and humanity please.

  • @anthonywilliams6764
    @anthonywilliams6764 Год назад +61

    The Amstredam drug problem is the tourists, NOT the locals. The dregs of humanity from many cities around the world get to Amsterdam, and make trouble, and rarely is the trouble caused by Dutch people, this does not validate the argument that legalisation of drugs is bad, it reinforces the argument that drug tourists who step out of line should be mopped up, and banned from re-entry into Holland under penalty of imprisonment.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank Год назад +6

      Yeah, drugs are definitely not the problem at all, are they?!

    • @paulsmith1981
      @paulsmith1981 Год назад

      Amsterdam is a slim balls theme park.

    • @johnhalpin1
      @johnhalpin1 Год назад +1

      ​@@SagaciousFrankI think the problem is that people would want to do drugs over having a successful life, I think that's a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.

    • @edwardcatt2399
      @edwardcatt2399 Год назад +2

      Anything, _ANYTHING,_ just so long as we can maintain the myth that recreational drug use isn’t bad in and of itself! ‘Oh that’s just a symptom of the problem it doesn’t mean that there’s _actually_ a problem, correlation doesn’t mean causation _blah blah blah!’_ 🤣

    • @johnhalpin1
      @johnhalpin1 Год назад

      @@edwardcatt2399 you are correct , correlation does not mean causation. What drugs do you do or have you done?
      Since alcohol is a recreational drug, it is bad in and of itself?
      Just because you have a problem with something, does that mean it is a problem objectively?

  • @nickpll
    @nickpll 11 месяцев назад +6

    I respect Hitchens greatly for standing up for the freedoms of individuals during the COVID lockdowns so it is disappointing to see him be so against it when it comes to this issue.

    • @kamilziemian995
      @kamilziemian995 11 месяцев назад +2

      He was against it long before Covid-19 appears on the scene.

    • @colonelsmith7757
      @colonelsmith7757 11 месяцев назад +2

      You're clearly clueless then

    • @RomaniaDeAzi
      @RomaniaDeAzi 9 месяцев назад

      Peter Hitchens is a horrible human for being such a dumbass. While he promotes the Idea that we should think and approach things logically. Hitchens prompotes the idea of MARIJUANA IS THE DEVIL with the same religious conviction of those that promotes that GOD exists. He is old and he's mind is gone. he is simply a failed intelect.

  • @superfurrygaz1
    @superfurrygaz1 Год назад +32

    Neither does criminalizing them, but its better people dont have their futures ruined because of a little bit of weed when they were young etc.

    • @wendywolfman
      @wendywolfman Год назад +8

      Have a look at South Korea and Japan 😉

    • @Alv11269
      @Alv11269 Год назад +4

      @@wendywolfman as well as Singapore.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад +6

      @@wendywolfman
      There’s still a major drug scene in Japan, it’s just underground because of their culture.
      You can literally read up on it if you wanted to use your brain, y’know?

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад +3

      @@Alv11269
      Singapore has a massive gambling addiction problem.
      So, say it with me, DRACONIAN LAWS DO NOT SOLVE ADDICTION.

    • @PrivateSi
      @PrivateSi Год назад

      @@wendywolfman .. But they have a Fascistic streak and we have a libertarian and liberal streak. Different cultures. Maybe you should move to a more oppressive society. The justice system is Japan is a sick joke half the time as no corruption cases are ever brought no matter how obviously corrupt the case is. Singapore is run by Butchers (ie. Ultra Conservatives) that believe in hanging people, even for supplying recreational substances people actually want to take. If you support Collective Insanity, Move East, you'll love it... I'd recommend Islam for you Wendy.

  • @MrDanbowz
    @MrDanbowz Год назад +4

    What nonsense are you talking about? First of all, if you were to buy it from the shop you would know exactly what's inside it since it is labelled. You also most likely be able to buy a range of flavours and strengths.
    Secondly, gangs would need to massively undercut shop prices to attract customers which would put pressure on gangs and some might just give up in this area due to financial costs. Inculde severe penalties and gangs might turn round and say enough with playing chicken with the law and police and just go down the legal route.
    The amount of tax that could be collected would be insane and some ring fenced to provide support to those who want to stop. That's not even counting the cost saving effects such as police time,prison,courts etc.

  • @andybud1983
    @andybud1983 Год назад +4

    It's hard to say, because it's decriminalised in one place, rather than everywhere, so you get all the scumbags going to just a couple of places.

  • @pauljermyn5909
    @pauljermyn5909 Год назад +3

    I have a great deal of respect for Mr Hitchens and agree with most things he says, but he's talking out of his arse on this, drugs have been criminalised for all of my 58 years on the planet, I have always (if I had wanted to) been able to get drugs in any city in UK within 2 hours of arriving there, criminals make the money and control quality, prohibition and criminalisation in Britain hasn't affected supply or demand, in fact demand has increased, prohibition of alcohol or drugs hasn't worked anywhere on the planet ever, you can get alcohol and drugs in Saudi Arabia, Peter is very good at talking about things he understands, he doesn't understand this subject at all.

  • @beachcaster56
    @beachcaster56 Год назад +7

    50% of what he spouts is interesting but his views on drugs belong in the other 50% that are rubbish.I get the feeling he likes the sound of his own voice.

  • @chriswest2290
    @chriswest2290 Год назад +6

    Its decriminalisated in thailand too. Theyre trying to bring the tourist back since covid.

    • @barbarahalkyard1901
      @barbarahalkyard1901 Год назад

      Since when.

    • @chriswest2290
      @chriswest2290 Год назад

      @@barbarahalkyard1901 what do you mean ?

    • @chriswest2290
      @chriswest2290 Год назад

      @@barbarahalkyard1901 since 9th june 2022. I was living there at the time when it got discriminalise

    • @seandrew7837
      @seandrew7837 Год назад

      @@chriswest2290 I bet you smell like a bunch of flowers 🙄

    • @PickleThePig
      @PickleThePig Год назад +1

      It means you can buy weed in Thailand legally from shops. You can’t smoke vapes in Thailand though.

  • @leonardgibney2997
    @leonardgibney2997 Год назад +28

    What was the result of alcohol decriminalization? Some say the forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest.

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 Год назад +4

      Alcohol has never been illegal in the UK so has therefore never been decriminalised.

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 Год назад +1

      @@firefly0073 Here in the UK where we have never had prohibition, we still see the production, distribution and consumption of illegally produced and often dangerous alcohol.

    • @MrTaytersDeep
      @MrTaytersDeep Год назад

      50 percent of all murders in the west have alcohol as a contributing factor
      I.e either the murder or victim is intoxicated

    • @markjohnson188
      @markjohnson188 Год назад

      Prohibition made a lot of gangsters rich in the US. Unfortunately weed is only one of the substances being sold by these shysters. Wait until you see what Fentanyl does to the vulnerable.

    • @baileycharlesworth7651
      @baileycharlesworth7651 Год назад +5

      Alcohol should’ve been banned years and years ago, usually the type of people that tell me I can’t have a joint have a fridge full of beer

  • @rs5001988
    @rs5001988 Год назад +6

    But alcohol is fine ?

    • @petersmith2522
      @petersmith2522 Год назад

      And look at the misery and carnage that causes these backward politicians have to go they should be illegal for holding us all back in life and funding criminal gangs in the process

    • @MasalaMan
      @MasalaMan Год назад +1

      In moderation is fine. But can you say the same for cocaine and heroin.

    • @petersmith2522
      @petersmith2522 Год назад +1

      @@MasalaMan you can for cannabis get legalized 🙂

    • @colonelsmith7757
      @colonelsmith7757 11 месяцев назад +1

      Hitchens doesn't like alcohol or tobacco either, he has said multiple times that it would be a very bad idea to introduce a third legal poison into our societies.

    • @VinnyCarwash-js8op
      @VinnyCarwash-js8op 3 месяца назад

      this same question from morons...

  • @Kingrichardtheturd780
    @Kingrichardtheturd780 Год назад +8

    The problem is people under the age of 21 taken it when their brain hasn't fully developed. if u go to a mental health unit you'll see all under 21's . legalise it and make it harder for under 21's to get hold of it .

    • @beachcaster56
      @beachcaster56 Год назад +3

      Why would legalising it make it more difficult for under 21s to get hold of it ? That statement doesn't make any sense.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад +6

      @@beachcaster56
      Because drug dealers don’t care who they sell to.
      But if it was legal you could restrict who gets it - like with gambling, cigarettes, alcohol etc.

    • @lone8869
      @lone8869 Год назад

      ​@beachcaster56 it doesn't make any sense because there is no sense in it. Anyone who thinks 21 and under won't get their hands on it is deluded.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад +3

      @@lone8869
      Yes, but there’s more safeguards in place (ID checks), and if they do get their hands on it the drugs will be safer because they’re regulated.
      On top of that, because it will be normalised it will be less taboo and exciting - so will have less of an appeal to kids.
      Mate, all you have to do is use your brain rationally, like an adult. Just put it into gear rather than being scared 😂

    • @Kingrichardtheturd780
      @Kingrichardtheturd780 Год назад

      @@lone8869 Half of the appeal to these young adults is that its illegal. i dont ever remember growing up feeling the same way about alcohol because there is boundaries in place.

  • @Adamb87
    @Adamb87 Год назад +14

    Legalisation and decriminalisation is the way to go , it's been decriminalised by society which is way ahead of the out of touch government

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 Год назад +7

      It's almost as if you didn't watch the video.

    • @Adamb87
      @Adamb87 Год назад +1

      @@kevinb9830ve heard Hitchens arguments on this a few times before, I also saw the vid Kevin, for me it's an issue Hitchens is out of touch with, which is rather unlike his critique of the Ukraine war which is on point

    • @benphilips7235
      @benphilips7235 Год назад

      Mad, mad. 😲😲

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 Год назад +3

      @@Adamb87 So you're just going to ignore the evidence presented?

    • @Adamb87
      @Adamb87 Год назад

      @@kevinb9830s evidence is a selective set , but when I listen to multiple others give their own evidence scientists, psychologists, and most importantly based on my own or experiences of people , I support legalising and decriminalising most drugs . The quality drug tests & added safety for any user anytime is a massive plus of decriminalisation on its own along with a long list of others for society

  • @johnnicol64
    @johnnicol64 5 месяцев назад +1

    Having worked in Amsterdam for years , it works. Simple.

    • @scoon2117
      @scoon2117 2 месяца назад

      Amsterdam is a den of hedonism and weakness.

    • @Innerlight320
      @Innerlight320 Месяц назад

      Plenty of drug related harm and serious health problems. What works in your opinion

  • @chriswest2290
    @chriswest2290 Год назад +4

    Legal weed is taxed, therfore its expensive. Black market will always undercut the price.

    • @greentroll9326
      @greentroll9326 Год назад

      so answer to that i allow ppl to grow there own

    • @chriswest2290
      @chriswest2290 Год назад

      @@greentroll9326 it's allowed in thailand. I'm not sure everyone has the time or want to put the effort in to grow. They just want the end product and will pay

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      “Legal alcohol is taxed, therefore expensive. Black market will always undercut the price.”
      That’s how much of a fucking moron you sound for just trotting out talking points you can barely comprehend.
      How about you think and research for yourself rather than lazily following what someone is telling you to think 😂

    • @jamesirvine9541
      @jamesirvine9541 Год назад

      Leagle 😂😂😂

    • @jamesirvine9541
      @jamesirvine9541 Год назад

      @@koalaeinstein-y7r 🤣🤣🤣

  • @billysmith6284
    @billysmith6284 Год назад +1

    I voted to legalize cannabis in Colorado and regret it.. pot smokers I know smoke all day every day.. horrible and foolish..

  • @Cornz38
    @Cornz38 Год назад +15

    Of course, Hitchens conveniently neglects the 2 biggest LEGAL TAXABLE drugs that causes MUCH more harm than weed, namely tobacco and alcohol. His rhetoric is tedious, easily disproven and repetative.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      He’s mentioned them prior - he doesn’t like them, but considers it pointless to try and illegalise them. He sees them as bad and doesn’t want the same thing happening with drugs.

    • @Cornz38
      @Cornz38 Год назад +3

      @@MrChristyCree THC could be found to be the cure to cancer and Hitchens would still sound off against it. He is like a child having a tantrum, refusing to accquiese despite the evidence in front of him. He is the literal South Park Mr Mackey, drugs are bad, m'kay?

    • @Nuggruk
      @Nuggruk Год назад

      So why dont you disprove his rhetoric, if its so tedious and repetitive it should take you no time at all... or is it possibly that you actually can't make any reasoned arguement that addresses the points he makes?

    • @Cornz38
      @Cornz38 Год назад +1

      @@Nuggruk Becaue, i. like you , am a nobody with no platform, no fame (which Hitchens merely inherited from his far more talented brother) or any need. You only have to look at models where drugs have been decriminalised and PLEASE don't point at California. Their problem is bad governence, not drug laws.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      @@Nuggruk
      What would you like addressed, specifically?

  • @r4vr4c
    @r4vr4c Год назад +5

    A conservative journalist doesn't like drugs? who would have guessed

    • @scoon2117
      @scoon2117 2 месяца назад

      And I'll bet he passes away from a liquor hardened liver.

  • @fredhair
    @fredhair Год назад +10

    Hold up, everything Hitchens is saying about decriminilisation is very little to do with the decriminilisation of drugs; the UK has all the problems and more. I've looked at this from various angles over the years and keep finding that decriminilisation is far better than criminalisation but the solution is not simply to just stop sentencing. I think the problem is that the money that was previously going into policing, sentencing, prisons etc does NOT get routed into education, safety, and health.
    I didn't see a single statistic quoted here, no studies, no investigations into the finances of funding criminalisation etc. I think Hitchens broadly has his head screwed on correctly about a lot of cultural issues but is letting himself get derailed here. This whole point he seems to be making here is if you don't get it right first time with virtually no effort at all, it must be flawed? No there's so many systems that are crap because they're corrupted; I mean the lawmakers of Canada and New York are not the brightest sparks, everything they touch turns to crap, they've never been in the least bit conservative in anything they do and it's no surprise that the problems they had before have continued much along the same lines. Drug users don't really care they're breaking the law so if you just change the law it really makes no difference at all. I think Hitchens rather goes onto totally prove the points that legalisation is indistinguishable from criminalisation and yet he still pinpoints the legalisation as the issue?

  • @alanzee_
    @alanzee_ Год назад +3

    It should be remembered that it is only cannabis that has been partly decriminalised - all the other stronger,more harmful and more addictive drugs are still as illegal as they ever where and still have all the associated violence and crime attached to their production and distribution.

  • @AntonHu
    @AntonHu Год назад +3

    Portugal seems to have just stopped enforcing, but didn't actually enable commercial sales, while NL just has a drug tourism problem. In California, it's only marijuana that has been legalised, so gangs still have a monopoly on the hard stuff.

  • @zamiadams4343
    @zamiadams4343 Год назад +3

    C'mon Peter! Chill out and smoke a big one, you need it.

    • @seandrew7837
      @seandrew7837 Год назад +2

      Business struggling? 🤔

    • @jerribee1
      @jerribee1 Год назад

      ​@@seandrew7837😂😂😂

  • @whooptydoo6256
    @whooptydoo6256 10 месяцев назад

    Coloradoan here. This city is destroyed since legalizing marijuana. Crime has gone up every year since and every degenerate has moved here for it. 😢 .

  • @clorofilaazul
    @clorofilaazul 11 месяцев назад +2

    "Drug Decriminalization doesn't work" hmm... ok... but wait... Drug criminalization also doesn't work!
    This guy is so full of hard core inquisitions morals :D

  • @morwennamorrison5180
    @morwennamorrison5180 10 месяцев назад

    Portugals drug policy is now failing due to lack of money 82 million down to 17 million. The elimination of gov assistance for the employment of recovering addicts. Etc etc. Also drug traffickers use Portugal as an entry point into Europe

  • @alexanderbrown8498
    @alexanderbrown8498 9 дней назад

    The apostrophe in "Hitchen's Half Hour" is in the wrong place 🤦‍♂️

  • @MrScottskiuk
    @MrScottskiuk Год назад +2

    I love Peter, but almost every week I hear him say the same thing about drugs. It is not true that the police do not enforce the law, it's also not true that the CPS don't prosecute for that matter. The issue is the sentencing guidelines which are set under the direction of the government. These tie the hands of the courts and make clear that save for the most serious of cases, custody will not be imposed. As always, the conservative government is to blame and must be held accountable.

    • @stealthblox3057
      @stealthblox3057 Год назад +2

      America had some very harsh sentences for crack cocaine and they were used heavily. However, people still continued to smoke crack. Sorry but punishing addicts does not work.

  • @ReformSaba
    @ReformSaba Год назад +19

    Hitchens has really changed the way I think about decriminalising weed, I’m no longer so sure it’s a good idea

    • @GregQchi
      @GregQchi Год назад +4

      There’s zero evidence that criminalisation of it achieves anything.

    • @MadHatter1980
      @MadHatter1980 Год назад

      Skin up Charva..

    • @kyleklukas4808
      @kyleklukas4808 11 месяцев назад

      The squalor and every else he equates with cannabis... is all because the war China is having on the west

  • @paulkeable2941
    @paulkeable2941 Год назад

    Its the tourists not locals and sex trade also the red light district.
    Being a Criminal for cannabis is the worst violation of human rights.
    The amount of years people have served. The amounts of black people have been put away for abit of weed.
    Prison time for weed is wrong for 1 simple reason.
    The UK government has been producing and selling weed since the 1980s.
    The UK was one of the worlds biggest weed farm.
    The NHS has been using it for years.
    Are you telling me that the NHS has been giving out illegal weed ?
    While pharmaceutical have been making weed since 1980s but normal people serves time.
    The Cannabis laws in the UK are racist and unlawful.

  • @chejones6058
    @chejones6058 2 месяца назад

    Prohibition doesn't work either. People like getting high. You won't change that.

  • @mikedowning4869
    @mikedowning4869 Год назад +8

    Isn't legalisation just indicative of the complete moral bankruptcy of our modern pleasure-seeking societies?

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      No.
      Morality doesn’t come into it.
      Getting high is found in a range of animals - it’s a natural part of our psyche.
      We even alter our mental state when we’re kids when we spin around.

    • @stealthblox3057
      @stealthblox3057 Год назад +5

      No. It is a response to the fact that prohibition of drugs has created a situation where nasty men are abusing children and threatening their families to get them to smuggle drugs around countries to make them a lot of money. It is the response to the fact that prohibition has caused a situation where young children are being targeted by drug dealers pushing drugs on them. Legalisation is the obvious counter to a war that has failed for 50 years.

    • @colonelsmith7757
      @colonelsmith7757 11 месяцев назад

      @@stealthblox3057 Oh yeah I'm sure introducing a third legal poison into our society, alongside alcohol and tobacco, will simply work wonders.
      The drug movers aren't going anywhere, they're simply undercutting the "legal" businesses and selling far stronger stuff for far less of a price, nobody legal can compete with that, so the end-result, as Hitchens said, is more people end up smoking weed.

    • @VinnyCarwash-js8op
      @VinnyCarwash-js8op 3 месяца назад

      Yes, it absolutely is. Bring back personal responsibility.

    • @ehaaron
      @ehaaron 2 месяца назад

      no, availability in spite of being illegal is indicative of the complete moral bankruptcy.

  • @Ian-gw2vx
    @Ian-gw2vx Год назад

    Just look at Manchester. I haven't been for years because of the way it has declined in the city centre.

  • @stutoon2755
    @stutoon2755 Год назад

    This is a bloke who obviously whited out after 1 puff in front of some girls when he was younger and he has never and will never get over it.

  • @BV-co7hy
    @BV-co7hy Год назад +4

    Mr Hitchens needs a THC Enema😮
    Or maybe a cup of mushroom tea 😉

    • @petersmith2522
      @petersmith2522 Год назад +3

      We all naturally produce thc in our bodies but i agree we need more its good for us in allsorts of ways

    • @BV-co7hy
      @BV-co7hy Год назад +2

      @@petersmith2522 so is Psilocybin, saved me from depressive lows ✌️

    • @seandrew7837
      @seandrew7837 Год назад

      @@BV-co7hy but you’re a dog 🤔

    • @BV-co7hy
      @BV-co7hy Год назад +3

      @@seandrew7837 🤧 not only am I a dog, I’m a retired sniffer dog 🫵

  • @lunatunauk3100
    @lunatunauk3100 Год назад +4

    It did in Russia, Asia. If you apply the right amount of consequence for drugs then de-criminalizing it DOES WORK.

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 Год назад +1

      what does 'the right amount of consequence' mean if it's decriminalised?

  • @free..to..air..
    @free..to..air.. Год назад +1

    Doesnt surprise me...half the local population are off their heads most of the time...its not canals that attract tourists..its the smack..

    • @MattieGroves
      @MattieGroves Год назад +1

      Now that's a typical answer from a man that seems to know nothing about the subject 😂

  • @sophisticatedmammal1826
    @sophisticatedmammal1826 Год назад +1

    Cannabis users that have had brutal encounters with police and have served time are due compensation. Criminalizing a cannabis user for using cannabis is no different than criminalizing Jews or Muslims for being Jews and Muslims. Should Mr Hitchins be criminalized for believing in an invisible poltergeist that only exists in his infantile mental delusional? No he should not, but he should be made to pay the compensation...personally.

    • @philgriff586
      @philgriff586 Год назад

      Why? Many cannabis users are prone to violence. Why do you assume the violence was one way?

  • @martinpidhany8278
    @martinpidhany8278 6 месяцев назад

    Watch vancouver is dying to see what liberal drug policies have created.

  • @WernerKruger-jm6vl
    @WernerKruger-jm6vl 9 месяцев назад

    Alcohol is legal and it's sales are through the roof

  • @kyleklukas4808
    @kyleklukas4808 11 месяцев назад

    Drug use and squalor has increased in all countries...UK too

  • @jonathanshauf9191
    @jonathanshauf9191 Год назад +1

    watching this high af

  • @davidelliot7834
    @davidelliot7834 Год назад +3

    Drugs are for mugs.

    • @HCP5
      @HCP5 Год назад +1

      Yes, and beers are for queers.
      Because it rimes, it’s true is it?

    • @beachcaster56
      @beachcaster56 Год назад

      I agree....but sadly there are a lot of mugs around. 90% of drug taking is self-medication.

  • @billsellwood3280
    @billsellwood3280 Год назад +1

    We've had illegal drugs universally for 50 years. A few places have legalised recreational drugs sporadically in the last few years. Of course these liberal places will attract the dregs of humanity. But give it a chance ! We have the same situation as the prohibition in the U.S.A. in the 1920's and have not learned the lesson. We pay a high price to be able to say "Thou shalt not".

  • @michealkelliher8428
    @michealkelliher8428 Год назад +4

    I have leftwing beliefs, and I absolutely fully concur on Peter Hitchens, actually on many things. He speaks a lot of sense.
    I'm completely against the decriminalisation of drugs, as we decriminalised alcohol, and look how that's worked out here in Ireland, cost our health service over €3 billion per year in treating it. That worked out well. Not.

    • @LiveFromLondon2
      @LiveFromLondon2 Год назад

      the irish make stunning whiskey. And im sure the tax on alcolhol comes to more than 3bill. Do you realise that thanks to drinkers and smokers, liver and respitory diseases have been investigated far more than anything else in the body? So all you tee-total do-gooding twats have benefited massively.

    • @michealkelliher8428
      @michealkelliher8428 Год назад

      @Peterbrendanalbert I can not speak for other countries, but here in Ireland, we've had a serious cultural problem with it.

    • @stealthblox3057
      @stealthblox3057 Год назад +4

      Sorry but people are going to drink and take drugs whether illegal or not. If making drugs illegal had any effect on drug consumption we wouldn't even be listening to Peter right now. There wouldn't be a drug problem. Prohibition doesn't work. Look at the USA with the prohibition of alcohol and all that caused. We need to look at other methods to deal with the inevitable fact that people will take drugs, even if it means they could go to prison.

    • @michealkelliher8428
      @michealkelliher8428 Год назад

      @stealthblox3057 I agree to a degree. Prohibition does work actually, depending on the country and society, religious values, Singapore is a case in point. You bring drugs in there, you're dead. If alcohol was invented today, it would be against thd law, it would be banned, that's a fact, for all the trouble it has caused. So that's why Peter is still talking about this. We need to find a new way.
      I agree with you in that wee need to find other alternatives to prison.

    • @johnhalpin1
      @johnhalpin1 Год назад +1

      For me, I don't get to dictate what you ingest or what risks you take with your own body. I can only seek to help inform people's decisions as much as possible.
      Any attempt for me to impose what I believe, is wrong, in my opinion. Like telling a fat person they shouldn't eat as much or do some exercise. I mean, you can advise them, but should your advice become a lawful order?
      I think there's a discussion to be had about whether everyone should pay financially for the choices/mistakes of others.

  • @notboring0
    @notboring0 Год назад +1

    Wrong.

  • @neilmcdonnell2964
    @neilmcdonnell2964 Год назад +21

    It works when you put in mechanisms properly treating mental health, rehabilitation and addiction. You also put these services in place and have them running successfully before you decriminalise. You can't just go, "OK drugs are free now"

    • @benphilips7235
      @benphilips7235 Год назад +7

      Prevention is better than cure.

    • @ganndeber1621
      @ganndeber1621 Год назад +4

      @@benphilips7235 Imprisonment is better than either

    • @Rebelconformist82
      @Rebelconformist82 Год назад +2

      ​@ganndeber1621 no its not.

    • @ganndeber1621
      @ganndeber1621 Год назад

      @@Rebelconformist82 Oh yes it is

    • @ganndeber1621
      @ganndeber1621 Год назад

      @@MrDarkraver79 My heart pumps purple piss for them, send them to prison for a very long time and stop crying about it. They have been educated and ignored it, they have had every chance and chose to take drugs ok now take the consequences. Dont waste any more money on education spend it on prisons for very very long sentences. Cry more sweetie

  • @richierich7609
    @richierich7609 Год назад

    I've been visiting Amsterdam since the 90's
    Back then it was considerably rougher and considerably wilder. What's happened since is a lot of rich kids from around Europe have bought and moved in to multimillion dollar houses from the 1600's and 1700's and they upsacled it, and they don't want the party atmosphere there anymore. So they've brought the curtain down on what it had been since the 1960's.

  • @stevecamm9733
    @stevecamm9733 Год назад

    So, is Peter Hitchens saying that more people are taking drugs or that there is simply more crime through drug use because it's legal? Is the average person affected, or just a minority who are drug addicts?

  • @Cannonstroke
    @Cannonstroke Год назад +1

    Sounds like 1984

  • @Emc2-n2t
    @Emc2-n2t Год назад

    Everything happens for a reason.
    Shoplifting...Poverty. let's look at that.

  • @webbo9798
    @webbo9798 Год назад +10

    If you make drugs legal, the gangs will persist by either or both "undercutting" official prices and by offering much "stronger" thereby unregulated strains giving them a unique selling point to buyers. This just increases the black market and the profits for the gangsters proving it would never work. It has to be outlawed altogether by stopping to " normalise" it.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      What a dumb fucking statement.
      Here’s why legalisation and regulation is important.
      Drugs become safer - they’re not cut with shite, they’re not made too strong. Users will choose the legal route, over the black market route - as we have with alcohol and tobacco.
      Billions of tax revenue can be put into the mental health services (and more) meaning less cases of addiction.
      Heroin addicts can get prescribed, free heroin - meaning drug-related crime (old grannies being robbed) will drop.
      Violent crime will drop, as gangs won’t be having turf wars over drugs.
      Alcohol related crime will effectively drop as people will move towards weed.
      More police resources to investigate serious crime.
      Prisons will be less cramped.
      More money into the country as the black marketers put their money into banks.
      All you have to do is think rationally.

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 Год назад +1

      @@MrChristyCree Many people feel it is morally wrong to give heroin addicts "free" heroin. It would be like giving dieting pills to people suffering from anorexia.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад +3

      @@bw1376
      Not quite the same.
      Addiction is often self-medication for mental health issues.
      Giving addicts free heroin, that’s clean, with clean needles and a safe space to use will - reduce disease, reduce deaths.
      If, whilst you do this, you then offer them mental health support when they’re ready - you give them a path to walk which will ultimately help them fight against addiction and create other coping mechanisms.

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 Год назад +1

      @@MrChristyCree It isn't free heroin. We as taxpayers would be paying for the drugs, the equipment and the facilities. A fast overdose would be most financially beneficial to taxpayers.

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 Год назад +1

      @@giraffe-neck2068 Five Lithuanian men died in an explosion, fire and smoke inhalation in Lincolnshire in 2011 at a makeshift illegal vodka factory. Just this year there are reports of illegal alcohol in many cities across the UK, like Leeds, Bolton, Glasgow, etc. It happens!

  • @gthang1157
    @gthang1157 Год назад +12

    Canada’s violence problem down to marijuana 😂😂 good one Peter,It’s virtually impossible to be violent when your stoned.

    • @dadaniel2467
      @dadaniel2467 Год назад +2

      You can if you're driving

    • @MrTaytersDeep
      @MrTaytersDeep Год назад +4

      You can if your the kinda person it makes psychotic

    • @lottie4321
      @lottie4321 Год назад +4

      He means drug dealers and gangs

    • @ProfessorOFanthropology979
      @ProfessorOFanthropology979 Год назад +1

      More about what happens after you come down rather than being stoned

    • @coniferclose
      @coniferclose Год назад +2

      You four talk crap.😂😂😂

  • @tytzup5397
    @tytzup5397 Год назад

    The thing about drugs is. Theyre very enjoyable. Its why millions of people use them.

  • @ulrickennedy4920
    @ulrickennedy4920 Год назад +7

    Let's ask a guy who's never taken drugs, what we should do with them. It's an unarguable fact...that the countries with the most authoritarian measures against drugs, have the highest drug usage. The Phillipines will execute you for taking heroin in some cases...yet more of their population takes it than Britain's (once you adjust the population sizes...we take much less than countries who impose stricter measures against it). Decriminalisation does lead to lesser use.
    The Netherlands decriminalised prostitution...as a result they have lower amounts of pedophilia, incest, rape and beastiality than most other countries worldwide...doesn't take a genius to figure out how. Oppressing people and their choices...does nothing to prevent them making those choices. But tbh I expect nothing less from an authoritarian like Peter Hitchens...claims not to be a Marxist anymore, but hasn't stopped trying to impose his views on the rest of the world. The world would be a very unhappy place if we all listened to Peter Hitchens.
    Ironically the type of cancer that killed his brother Christopher...can be cured with Rick Simpson oil. Truly Ironic...I hope Peter reads this.

    • @saintdominicreview
      @saintdominicreview Год назад +2

      Peter Hitchens has been riding on his dead, alcoholic brother's coattails for 20 years.
      A sad, arrogant nobody...

    • @seandrew7837
      @seandrew7837 Год назад

      His brother was called, ‘Christopher’

    • @ulrickennedy4920
      @ulrickennedy4920 Год назад

      @@seandrew7837 my mistake

    • @stuartmc18
      @stuartmc18 Год назад +5

      I think you're getting cause and effect mixed up. The countries with the highest drug usage take more draconian steps to combat it. I will also add that we are over simplifying the issue here as there are a multitude of social factors that contribute to drug abuse. Peter is making the point that legalising drug use causes more problems and doesn't solve the problems that is claimed by it's proponents.

    • @MasalaMan
      @MasalaMan Год назад

      Japan also has crazy laws against drug use and yet I don't see them with a high rate of drug users.

  • @scorpiorob7986
    @scorpiorob7986 Год назад

    I don't care what 'Peter Hitchens' or any politician says, but NATURE (including 'Marijuanna' and 'Magic mushrooms' and all natural entheogens), really should NEVER be ILLEGAL.
    Education is the way forward, not prohibition.

  • @ianknealy2843
    @ianknealy2843 Год назад

    i think im going mad

  • @NightOwlGames
    @NightOwlGames Год назад +1

    gov needs to beat street prices theres no way street can afford to lower the price.

    • @petersmith2522
      @petersmith2522 Год назад +1

      The other countries arent as restrictive as us they are allowing people to grow up to 2 plants and have the option to buy it

    • @NightOwlGames
      @NightOwlGames Год назад

      @@petersmith2522 if coffee shops charged 10 euros for 2grams beating the 10 euro for 1 gram street price people will go to the coffee shop instead of the shady street dealer this will put the street guys out of business theres no way they can compete with that. however its not like that is it? its the coffee shops charging 10 euros for 0.5 grams while street dealers sell it for 10 euro per gram its pretty obvious whos getting business.

  • @MartinGreen932
    @MartinGreen932 Год назад

    People the world over will take drugs of all sorts until there are no humans left. You can do 1) Have the supply and regulation controlled by organised crime groups or 2) Have the supply and regulation controlled by government. I am usually against government intervention in anything. But on this subject it is simply a no brainer.

  • @Digibeatle09
    @Digibeatle09 Год назад +1

    As regards cannabis - some are of the opinion (particularly long term users - I don’t touch the stuff) that the average “weed” on the market today is “stronger” than the type of stuff available back in the 1970s - like the stuff smoked by university lecturers (as they pronounced that the only way forward for Society was to embrace fully the teachings of K. Marx !)

  • @benphilips7235
    @benphilips7235 Год назад +9

    Not a fan of Peter's on some stuff, but on this I believe he is bang on. To hear liberal commentators extolling the virtues of legalising drugs is to watch the lunatics taking over the asylum. I cannot imagine how awful this country would feel if we did so. As if we aren't surrounded by enough squalor as it is!

    • @petersmith2522
      @petersmith2522 Год назад +4

      You have no knowlege on the subject

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад +1

      Spoken like someone with no education on the matter.

    • @benphilips7235
      @benphilips7235 Год назад +3

      @@petersmith2522 How does legalising drugs help the health of the country? Any money raised will simply be spent on curing yet another group of patients in an NHS which is already overrun. Second,what do you say to the drugs charities which spend their time trying to wean people off them? 'Give up and do something else?'

    • @petersmith2522
      @petersmith2522 Год назад

      @@benphilips7235 but everyone does them drugs anyway have done for many years cannabis was even found in the holy temples and ancient china and the human body actually has a cannabis system built in these things being illegal just means people like you or me are taking all the money and not the country and people and it also means drugs are not as good and more dangerous look at australia mdma mushrooms cannabis all legal and alot more clean and effective

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      @@benphilips7235
      Addiction and mental health are intrinsically linked.
      You spend the billions made to fund mental health services across the board - thus making addiction levels drop, and helping those struggling.
      Then you have the money saved from police resources currently being wasted on a nonsense war on drugs.
      You free up prison spaces.
      Addicts can and used to function in society back when you could get heroin prescribed - the moment they illegalised it was when you got the issues with crime and disease.
      Drug-related crime would drop.
      Drug-related violence would drop.

  • @mikedowning4869
    @mikedowning4869 Год назад

    The pill was meant to reduce the number of abortions, but sexual mores changed in response, and the number of unwanted pregnancies went up instead.

  • @doasyoulikefawkes7127
    @doasyoulikefawkes7127 Год назад

    Peter Hitchens is a half way decent journo. But having such narrow knowledge on such a diverse subject is a bit underwhelming. The purpose of the 1971 misuse of drugs act was partly to protect the user from fraudulent fake substances. The discription of the substance needs to change, along with the narrative. This is a debate which will never end....

  • @StOrMmaGiiKz
    @StOrMmaGiiKz Год назад +1

    Another sun loving paper knowing nothing about nothing

  • @sensibill1
    @sensibill1 Год назад

    He needs to loosen up. He needs a doobie

  • @steveblease
    @steveblease Год назад

    It must smell permanently like arsenal there.

  • @jazztheglass6139
    @jazztheglass6139 Год назад +1

    Portugal is one of the cheapest places to buy heroin. You can buy a gram for £20, 10 good goes out of a gram, £2 a hit

  • @joerobinson1672
    @joerobinson1672 Год назад

    The people at the top are fine

  • @gerardgauthier4876
    @gerardgauthier4876 Год назад +1

    I rarely agree 'wholeheartedly' with Mr. Hitchens but on this topic I find myself cheering for his side.

  • @Metamorfues
    @Metamorfues Год назад

    oh please.

  • @3rdDogGhostband
    @3rdDogGhostband Год назад

    Nonsense, what a grim picture, not true😎

  • @rjflores438
    @rjflores438 Год назад +2

    Peter loses me when it comes to cannabis, prosecuting people for smoking cannabis is absurd. He should have the same views on alcohol as well but im sure he doesn't, since alcohol kills hundreds of thousands of people worldwide every year when it is abused, even caffiene is more deadly than weed, and the reason the weed today is so much stronger with a higher THC content is due to criminalization, at least in the Amsterdam coffeeshops you know the strength of the weed. I dont think weed should be smoked everyday but just something that is consumed now and again, it doesnt suit everyone and you can get paranoid and anxious if you are smoking it in the wrong settings and the THC is too high for your tolerance, but criminalizing a plant that has never killed anyone in human history is absurd.

  • @MattieGroves
    @MattieGroves Год назад +1

    Read Drug use for grownups by Dr Karl Hart you may be surprised.

  • @steadfastandyx4947
    @steadfastandyx4947 Год назад

    I agree with Mr Hitchens. I also have a nieve, simple, theory : allow the drug users, abusers, libertarians to proceed. Let us see what results. Perhaps drug addicts take over society. Perhaps non drug addicts are allowed to live as we wish.

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      You’re conflating drug users with drug addicts.
      Mate, all it takes is the bare minimum of life experience and research - then you won’t be sounding like a fucking idiot online.

  • @AM2024uk
    @AM2024uk Год назад

    If you legalised it, another curupt group will benifit, The government. This is the issue here they are not making cash (Tax) off it.

  • @PrincipledUncertainty
    @PrincipledUncertainty Год назад

    I lived on and of in the Nederlands, back in the day, and Amsterdam is a mess. I advise visiting the smaller towns and meeting the real dutch.

  • @stevo7163
    @stevo7163 Год назад +1

    What the hell does Hitchens know about drug use and the working class?

  • @bato2699
    @bato2699 Год назад

    Its like starving Peoples and then get angry that People eat. It was your fault starving People. Now when you made them a major problem. But you just close your eyes and forget that it was the state that made it wort big money. Its their fault.

  • @cameronidk2
    @cameronidk2 Год назад

    That was Test study wasn't it? I would say Portland Oregon is the second , San Francisco another example ..

  • @jumior
    @jumior Год назад

    Yea your right calling all cartel heads plz plz come back and run or drug trade ,

  • @samsonmcmuffin6022
    @samsonmcmuffin6022 Год назад +1

    It is extremely difficult to make any case that the war on drugs has worked. But yeah let’s carry on with that. Madness. Legalise and regulate them all.

    • @SgtAndrewM
      @SgtAndrewM Год назад

      You didn't listen to a word he said did you

    • @samsonmcmuffin6022
      @samsonmcmuffin6022 Год назад

      @@SgtAndrewM yeah I did. Some good points as there should be in any good debate. However when you weigh up the pros and cons of the war on drugs, it is not much of a contest in my opinion.

  • @fredhunter7129
    @fredhunter7129 Год назад

    Why not legalise gun carry as well. To me legalising drug use is just the way governments get rid of unwanted population

    • @MattieGroves
      @MattieGroves Год назад

      The percentage of people in the west that use illegal drugs is around 20%. The rest are the average man and woman in the street most of whom you would never know about their drug use .

    • @MrChristyCree
      @MrChristyCree Год назад

      A bizarre, non-factual statement that relies on the trope that all drugs will kill you.
      Drugs don’t kill - misuse does.
      Why people like you feel confident enough to talk about a subject they’re dumb on I have no idea.
      Just on the internet, casually talking shite 😂

    • @colonelsmith7757
      @colonelsmith7757 11 месяцев назад

      @@MattieGroves Oh yeah like it's not patently obvious whenever someone is high, as if you can't smell it either. Piss off, normal people know a user when they see one.

  • @johnbuoy1401
    @johnbuoy1401 Год назад

    Wipe out any ties with heroin producing countries instead of having wars there to secure the trade? Just a thought 🙄

  • @Leo_Cameron
    @Leo_Cameron Год назад

    ban smoking

  • @MattieGroves
    @MattieGroves Год назад

    Why do people make comments with no knowledge of the subject whatsoever including Mr Hitchens it seems.

  • @timsyoutube6051
    @timsyoutube6051 Год назад

    Peter Hitchens has to be the most ill informed man on earth about this subject. Obviously gangs will find other ways to make money but why should i have to buy from gangsters if it can be sold in shops and regulated?

    • @celtspeaksgoth7251
      @celtspeaksgoth7251 Год назад +1

      because regulation of sales to people means addicted customers will be forced to return to street corner drug dealers to get more. Duh.

    • @timsyoutube6051
      @timsyoutube6051 Год назад

      @@celtspeaksgoth7251 regulation of the drug itself Mr genius. So we know how it's grown and what it contains. Not a restriction on how much people can buy.

  • @Leo_Cameron
    @Leo_Cameron Год назад

    The drug paradise is a boozer pub on every corner where people go hungry because they don’t have an electric oven at home and the bar staff can make you a sandwich with out giving you an std

  • @Indicasativa55
    @Indicasativa55 Год назад

    Weeds to expensive in Amsterdam and far cheaper to buy here but the shrooms are awesome

  • @The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth
    @The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth Год назад +2

    Peter for PM.

  • @Leo_Cameron
    @Leo_Cameron Год назад

    What drug paradise no one likes what is currently happening if they can see further than their own street

  • @MrDenzal27
    @MrDenzal27 Год назад

    Cannibis Peter, maijiwana is a propaganda name. Alcohol withdrawels can fucking kill u ffs. Its laughable.

  • @rjflores438
    @rjflores438 Год назад +1

    I agree with Peter that shoplifting should be illegal, but not sure why he is somehow putting this in the same conversation with marijuana possession for personal use.

  • @NathanJaneAndLouis
    @NathanJaneAndLouis Год назад +11

    How did one set of parents produce such polar opposite children? RIP the intellectual giant that was Christopher Hitchens.

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 Год назад +6

      Intellectual giant? If Christopher Hitchens hadn't been seriously addicted to alcohol and cigarettes he may still be alive.

    • @Alex-mj5dv
      @Alex-mj5dv Год назад +10

      Peter Hitchens doesn’t suffer from the sophistry Christopher did. Christopher was charismatic, a showman, an orator of some note.. and I agree with him on religion, but Peter is just as much of a sound debater and journalist. He changes his views based on garnered wisdom and lived experience. Peter was his father’s son, Christopher was his mummy’s boy.. yes the brothers are different, but both vociferous intellects.

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 Год назад

      @@Alex-mj5dv They are two very different characters. I much prefer Peter mostly because he's honest about the state of the country and he doesn't have to say very much to get some fragile minds very wound up indeed.

    • @NotDuncan
      @NotDuncan Год назад +2

      He was so smart he was a Marxist and thought Lenin was a great man worthy of admiration.

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 Год назад

      Peter is every bit as smart from the other direction.

  • @charlytaylor1748
    @charlytaylor1748 Год назад

    Free the weed

  • @nickkacures2304
    @nickkacures2304 Год назад

    Drug criminalization doesn’t work either so what’s the answer anyone that thought government run dispensaries would end the drug trade and fill the coffers with tax windfalls were smoking too much of their own supply . We needed fair laws without prejudice to the wealth of the user and all money made from legalization should have gone to health care for all substance abuse mental health issues.It’s all Bread and circuses anyway as Rome 🔥🚬goes 🔥🚬so goes the nation 🚬🔥state!!!

  • @hiriotapa1983
    @hiriotapa1983 7 месяцев назад

    I second the part about the Netherlands, since last year April I travelled to the Netherlands with my Thai-Dutch teenage son from Thailand, and he was appalled by the weed smoke in many places we went to in Amsterdam. I was kind of used to the smell, because I used to smoke some in my student days, but he never experienced it before. Open drug use in the streets, even though it's only soft drugs is really not beneficial to the image of Amsterdam and the Netherlands as a whole. It might turn people off from wanting to visit again.

  • @ianwarnes6197
    @ianwarnes6197 Год назад +2

    Hitchens ,, the bs brother .

  • @ChesterMeadows
    @ChesterMeadows Год назад +1

    Putin will never invade Ukraine Peter, never! Just like you said😂🤦‍♂️ i do miss your brother😢

  • @claraboomday
    @claraboomday Год назад

    Y

  • @alanhamilton9856
    @alanhamilton9856 Год назад

    Portland, Amsterdam and Portugal needed to give it more time. Bans don't work either. We're throwing money at groups to deal with the situation; they say thanks, put in their accounts and go on holiday.

  • @jean-pascalheynemand3271
    @jean-pascalheynemand3271 Год назад +1

    Therefore we need more repression. Let’s make caffein, alcohol and tobacco illegal as it would neither be rational nor fair to allow some but not others..

    • @MasalaMan
      @MasalaMan Год назад

      None of those are same as cocaine and heroin, druggie.