Nigeria vs South Africa: Amapiano Mystery I Pulse Facts Only
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2023
- On this episode of #PulseFactsOnly, Adeayo discusses the controversy happening between South African fans and the Nigerian Afrobeats’ artists.
He uses the recent #Smada and #DeepLondon case that is trending to enlighten #Afrobeats’ fans on the reasons why South Africans are trying to gatekeep #Amapiano.
Adeayo also talks about how Nigerian artists have contributed globally to the success of the South African genre.
Is it possible for South African artists to gatekeep Amapiano? Watch the full episode and find out.
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Music might originate somewhere, but it will always spread around the world and people will start experimenting with that style. This is the nature of music. The same has happened to rock 'n roll, blues, country music, gospel, Indian bollywood music, etc. Nothing wrong with other people trying out the different styles. That's exactly what makes so great, as it can cross borders very easily.
SA dominate music in Africa and always been
@@Diva-julie Afrricans are copying Amapiano and you will never see South Africans copying any sound from other African countries
Amapiano is a South African genre. Has been there for years, y'all probably knew it post covid.
As a South African let me correct you brother. South Africa is a nation of rhythm, just like Nigeria. You speak of Nigerians being superstars and having the means to take Amapiano further. Lol. One of the main reasons South Africans are not 'international superstars' is not many of us are hellbent on English. As a result, our music, no matter how good, will not gain traction internationally. Amapiano is a genre rooted in SA dance and groove inspired culture and its popularity beyond SA was actually a surprise and unintentional. I think people actually caught feelings not because a popular Nigerian artist is exploiting the genre but more that Nigerians didn't acknowledge its origin before they began bragging about how they took Amapiano to the "next level", whatever that means. But as said, we South Africans exist in our own league of rhythm and are not in competition with Nigeria or any country. Nigerians are more than welcome to adopt Amapiano sounds since music is a universal language, just don't drag us into it or feel like you're upgrading something you didn't even invent without crediting the originator.
How many South Africans give credit to Jamaicans for using reggae? I never hear or read Lucky Dube gave credit to Jamaicans. SA insecurities is to say the least petty. Do Nigeria have to roll over like puppies to SA just because we incorporated logdrums to our beats? I don't hear SA calling out Diamond Platinumz or other Africans infusing or adopting amapiano. SA obsession with Nigerians is astounding. We owe SA nothing . We have done enough for the genre already and if SA makes another one and we like it we will use it too. All this noise is because we are successful. Ego without substances and false sense of entitlement is the bane of most South Africans.
@@anthonygodwininyadu254 You make a great example with reggae. You never heard South Africans or Lucky Dube arrogantly say we'll take reggae to the next level or some petty nonsense like that. But with you Nigerians it's a whole different ball game. The fact that you brazenly say even if SA innovates another genre you'll take it just proves the point. How can true innovators argue with mere merchants and middle men???? 😂😂😂😂
@@SparxSenyorayea you can brag about what you can or have done, Nigeria bragging about it isn't misplaced, lucky dupe or SA couldn't push reggae so can't brag or you would look foolish
@@Jean-tz7ft But you'll did not push Amapaino you joined international Amapinao and nobody invited you guys. you saw a sound that will make your Afrobeats disappear because is trash then you jumped on Amapiano because you wanted to be relevant. Amapinao is international by itself and it needs no bloody Nigerian
You go explain tire Smada ehh Smada ahhh😂😂😂😂😂
As a South African, I don't have any issues with Nigeria's involvement in the AmaPiano movement. Problems start when they claim that AmaPiano are nothing without them. That if it wasn't for them, no one would know AmaPiano therefore AmaPiano are their creation. That is where the issues start.
amapiano is nothing without us, if you don't like to hear it, go kiss a live wire
@@mrmike1582 Lol funny because there's a growing sentiment that Nigerian made Yanos are trash. The only Nigerian Yanos that people kinda liked are the ones produced by South Africans. Davido and Burnaboy, your biggest artists needed South African producers and vocalists.
Davido had to feature Youngstana in Unavailable.
Burnaboy did a remix of Ke Star, a song that was already big at the time and he messed it up. To us, it was trash. But to y'all, it was one of your best.
But you right, AmaPiano is nothing without you. What a joke 😂😂😂😂.
@@NEMESIS_10proofread before posting. Now the joke is on you.
@@kenalimele5283 You go around telling strangers online what to do? Must be fun!
I don't have time for idiots... Move along.
@@NEMESIS_10 your try to demean a people because of the hatred you harbour. But unfortunately for you , your brain and your fingers are not in sync. Get lost with your xenophobic mindset. People like you are detrimental to our unity.
Amapiano from SA actually sounds quite different to the Amapiano inspired Nigerian songs.
They can try to steal the sound but the smoothness and rhythm we have theu can never steal.
Don't steal and try to dress it up with fancy words!
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Steal what? what Nigerians are making is not amapiano
This is completely lost cause nobody can make amapiano like the rightful owners
They're imposters trying to steal SAn music because they have no talent and no idea of their own to make a name for themselves out in the world.
Wrong!There was Fela Anikulapo Kuti, Onyeka Onwenu, KSA , Lagbaja and other well known musicians. This jealousy and beef are totally despicable among Africans.
Nigerian Music industry has learned how to package the raw musical talent for world entertainment. For example SA music in the Lion King film was appreciated worldwide because it was packaged properly for appreciation worldwide. Each tribe in Africa has its own traditional music , but it is not trending in the raw form, just as I may not appreciate European classical music or jazz or pop music if the sounds do not resonate with me.
Nigeria style is more of a fusion and not pure original Amapiano.
We are afro beats not whatever amapiano your brain is telling you
Very Arrogant!!! It is giving who has the coolest chain on the plantation vibez...
Nigerians and capping, I give up. This video is screaming obsession about SA.
In your wild dreams
Dey play!
@@jamesyankins6429 serious play😂😂😂😂
It’s the other way around I guess
Respect bro cause he really broke this down really well and he also had a lot of respect for the South African’s aswell🔥🔥
This man is dizzy... Nijerians make terrible Amapiano... Theyre ruining the sound
Nigerians know nothing about amapiano,for the fact that you are saying Nigerian piano,shows you know nothing about it's origins, disappointing
Amapiano is a lifestyle and the way Nigerians carry themselves they will never understand amapiano
Guys, am I the only person on the face of planet earth that has never heard a single nigerian amapiano song
I’m reading the comment section and majority are saying water ain’t Afrobeat 😅 are your ears paining y’ll 💀
You can take amapiano but alot of people are not going to listen to it........sad truth
Best episode so far because the host really knew about a lot of what he is talking about
But he lied and said DBN Gogo and Major league djz enjoy Asakes music... Nobody plays Nijerian music at events.... Only Nijerian Diaspora
@@mightyrsa9772cry harder😂
@@mightyrsa9772 and say what makes you happy
I was expecting an unintelligent and bias narrative. Here's why. Unhealthy competition and big brother mentally by Nigerians when it comes to South Africa.
Nice analysis
South Africa Amapiano saved Nigerian artists, without SA amapiano today Nigerian music would be a huge fail.
Really? Lol. Mad men everywhere.
But the biggest hit songs from Nigeria such as Calm down, love nwantiti, Last Last, On the Low, Essence, etc have no Amapiano in them.
@@okiemute7744 you named a few afrobeat songs as opposed to the majority of infused amapiano songs by Nigerians in the last 3-4 years.
@@kamogelobobo3651 well if top Nigerian songs in the World that are most popular and doing the numbers are not Amapiano, then it goes to show Afrobeats is the real deal and contrary to earlier assertion, Nigeria doesn't need Amapiano to go viral anymore than Nigeria needs Ghanaian highlife or Jamaican reggae to do that.
Ignorance talking. You that have theblogdrum beat did it make you half as good as Nigerians. Is rema's calm down logdrums beats? Is wiz kid essence logdrums beats. Nigerians should stop call the sound ama... Because SA is just using us to make it trend . I propose we start calling it logdrums beats let see if you guys can open you mouth again. Make una dey play
South Africans will not have a problem if it's another person from the west or Asia that is making amapiano. It's just because it's Nigerians, another African country, that's why they're angry and bitter. I have seen a song on this app called Chinese amapiano and I went under the comments waiting to see south Africans coming for her but it's just all praise from the comments stating how they love the music.
South Africans just hate that Nigerians are successful with the genre. They don't care if other countries do amapiano music as long as the country is not in Africa because I think they believe they're better than other Africans since white people and people from other nationality all call South Africa home. They're suffering from neo-colonial mindset. That's all
Thank you for listening to my Ted talk
I checked that same comment section hoping to see their usual bitterness and was shocked....now I see them for what they are
Lol ofcourse, why didn't we have an issue with Diamond Platinums from Tanzania? Or Uncle Waffles from Swaziland? Or Miraa from Algeria??? It's because they didn't grow a big mouth like Nigerians... Talking about dominating stuff.
@@kelvincyprian1237The main issue South Africans have with Nigeria. Is that Nigerians on platforms like Twitter, Instagram, RUclips, etc. Are claiming AmaPiano as their creation. That is what is sparking all of this. Not that Nigeria is doing AmaPiano.
Awww shame the nations of thefts is ready to steal something
Actually you are wrong. Diamond Platinum made an Amapiano song. Though one can argue that there are elements that sounds plagiarised from SA songs, SA fans never complained why? Because Tanzanians aren’t going around arrogantly claiming that they make better Amapiano music, unlike some Nigerians
Nijerian Burna Boy couldn't fill up FNB stadium... He only filled 6%..
SA has the most Grammys in Africa
SA artists ate the most booked artists from Africa, in tye international market
Burna just filled up a venue in Germany! 😂😂😂 Waiting for your Artist to do same 🌚
You are not even ashamed to claim that Amapiano originated from Nigeria. Even the name Amapiano is South African name. You don’t say Ama in your languages. You are stealing period. Why don’t you have your own genre.
Who told you we don't say ama in our language......AMA is also an Igbo word which means road......and again..... show me the link or sources or interview that a Nigerian claimed that amapiano originated from Nigeria......and if there is no such claims........you and your country will never succeed in anything.......mark my words.....
@@promisebethel2226 . You very good at copying and claiming anything done by other Nationalities originates from you. You should use your traditional music or beat and that way it will be your own genre. Like Fella Kuti music was Nigerian beat and could identify your culture within his music. You must admit Amapiano South African genre has taken the world by storm. You can use it in your music but don’t claim that it originated from Nigeria 🇳🇬
Dude nobody did, amapiano is south African and nobody is arguing with you.
@@jamesyankins6429 this folks are emotionally traumatized......if you ask them to provide the source which nigerians are saying we invented amapiano....dey won't still provide the evidence......it's getting really boring and annoying at the same time.....
Did you watch the interview at all? No one is claiming amapiano. He literally said it's is clear who owns it.
Give that man a respect
I think Nigerian amapiano and South African amapiano are very different except if Musa Keys are involved in Nigerian amapiano
I didn’t even know the is Nigerian version of Amapiano
There is no Nigerian amapiano guys
Nigerians never claimed amanpiano, they simply jumped on it, which is allowed. South Africans do amanpiano best with d complementary dance moves. All over d world, people jump on reggae, hip hop etc. The south African legend, Lucky Dube, was a reggae artist, did u hear Jamaicans crying that SA is stealing or claiming reggae? Anybody in Africa or anywhere in d world can do afro beats n u won't hear Nigerians crying.
Actually, they do claim them. The Nigerian general public that is, pity RUclips doesn't allow links in the comment section anymore...
Atleast we didn't go around claiming raggae and saying we upgrading it and made it international 😂😅 this whole interview is clout chasing and that's all Nigerians know to steal
Growing up as kid I used to Google which country is the best in Africa, well SA alwsy popped up amongst others. But once came across report tht SA is the most influencial country in Africa well I didn't believe that was true. How can the so called "Xenophobic" country can't be the most influential in Africa untill so Recently i started to realise SA is Actually the most influential country in Africa, amapiano is great example. Coz seems like everything SA does they also want to do and claim.
Before Amapiano, what is the last SA genre that everybody copied? $50 for you right now if you can name one within the last 20 years.
There is no influential person that hates the people he influences. If you are influential you would not be so filled with jealousy, you would not hate Nigerians so much. The one you fear is the one you are jealous of, and you fear Nigerians to the trembling of your feet.
By the way South Africa is not a xenophobic country.
@@kamogelobobo3651 yeah you and I know that South Africans, especially the men, are very xenophobic towards other Africans. Let’s not tell lies please. Of course it’s not every single one of them but it’s a huge enough percentage of them that it even makes the news every few years.
@@kamogelobobo3651 that's why I put inverted commas on xenophobia
Point of Correction: Nigeria isnt the biggest market in Africa.
U are missing it up.
We have the biggest stars in thw continent bcos they are popping overseas but not the biggest market in Africa cos South Africa is still the biggest music market on the continent
Dude be quiet. Nigeria 🇳🇬 has the biggest market hence the biggest stars . How many south African artists do you know?. Mumu
WTH are you talking about? Nigeria has the biggest market in Africa, stop the cap.
I can see you just want People to hear you.😂
Fool😂
Guys I read that on some website too. I think they mean biggest including all genres. House music, Amarpiano and Afrobeats are all huge in SA. But mainly just Afrobeats in Naija. So cumulatively SA is the biggest music market. According to that website anyway.
Don't worry if is working for u nigerian go for it.we know amapiano is rsa genre.so is good sound is nice if u like it is good for us south sfrican u promote us
Tems new single me and you has similar elements with tyla water and their both afrofusion. If you doubt me, have a listen to both single right now.
They must do a balcony mix with Nigerian songs only and in a foreign country.
The first 6 minutes of the interview is relevant and the rest of the interview is just Ego, SA artist didn't even care wether the music goes international or not that just happened unintentionally, our problem is you thinking that you're producing the best Amapiano like... how do you brag about something you didn't invent and disregard the inventor? I'm giving you an assignment go listen to Kelvin Momo and the title of the song is sukakude then you'll hear what we're saying when we say no one comes close to the original inventors, yes Nigerians do their thing with SA's sound but stop comparing because we all know where the quality is.
They make Amapiano music now? I’ve never a heard a Nigerian Amapiano song without a South African feature
It would be interesting to hear that, but I don’t think they can pull it off Amapiano is rooted in the street culture of South Africa 🇿🇦 which is totally different from Nigeria
This guy answers these questions very honestly and professionally, the same can not be said to whoever was asking questions. Very insistance of calling it "Jealousy"... Bro Wtf!
Your infrastructure is one of the worst in the world amongst other problems but you want to discuss entertainment like that contributes to your decaying economy?, shame man.
And that same economy is the reason for the success of our entertainment and is bigger and better than your heavenly paradise economy built by your masters 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 but has nothing to show of.......don't change the topic
How is your entertainment being a success helping your economy tho ? 😂, you are in entertainment and you have 54 views in 2 years in a video you though would change your life 😂🤣, come correct
@@khosidladla-xe8uq bro ur biggest musician is who 😂😂😂😂😂😂Omo werey
@@aloziefavour6482mind you South African population is probably 4times smaller that Nigeria but you keep comparing yourselves to South Africa 🇿🇦
Black coffee has sold out O2 Major League have sold out 02
Have your black coffee sold out 02 Arena,the 20,000 capacity arena???dey play😂😂
You mean the DJ that plays other people songs? South Africans😀😀😆
@@anthonygodwininyadu254here go another uneducated person 😅😅😅 man go do ur research and come right next time
@@anthonygodwininyadu254 Black coffee is a an artists and a producer, he has his own music, your music lacks diversity hence you not educated about music in Nigeria
A South African wants to tell a Nigerian about diversity in music. Na wa oo. Dey play. Very soon Amapiano will become a subgenre of Afrobeats. Afrobeats has its name for a reason. Just they play😆😆😆.
Extremely poor analysis. Copyright laws exist for a reason, that publishing money has to go to the right person. We pay royalties in SA in case you didn't know, so artists cannot keep quiet when their work is stolen.
As for this "analyst" neh, words fail me. 🤦🏾♀️
Of course u will tag it poor because he didn't say what u wanted to hear🤣🤣🤣we good,no problem
@chisomokeke9951 Not even. This channel used to have Motolani as an analyst, he loved music and knew his music, his analysis was not Twitter comments bundled into one. I appreciate knowledgeable analysts.
This is mediocre.
@@lebo5281 now i get the angle u are coming from,truly analysis shouldn't be based on Twitter happenings and i agree with u on this,some emotional people sometimes stir up things on Twitter and meanwhile in real life it's a different story,i personally miss Motolani too
@chisomokeke9951 Thank you. There really should be a distinction between the ordinary man's opinion and a specialist opinion. Throwing words like "jealousy" in a debate about ethics, is not helpful and does not help up and coming artists to never rely on the public court of opinion, instead of clearing those samples and protecting their own work and themselves from being exploited.
@@lebo5281 one love brother,Naija loves SA
We have proved that love in big collaborations and recently the Big Brother Titans,it can only be Naija and SA
But Nigerians do not do Amapiano, having log drum or any instruments used in Amapiano song doesn't make a song Amapiano.
I think SAs are saying you can do whatever song but stop calling things Amapiano which are not Amapiano. Afrobeats is Afrobeats, Amapiano is Amapiano.
But South African comedian has filled the O2 arena stop lying.
Black Coffee has filled bigger venues in the Americas and Europe
K.O never said his song was Amapiano, It was Afrobeats
Tyla's said her song is popiano not Amapiano
Saying South Africans are gatekeeping Amapiano I think you are deliberately misinterpreting people. I don't know if you are doing it intentionally or if you didn't get the memo.
You think Asake calls his genre Amapano?
@@oloyindeolaseni1491 what Is Amapano?
What does he call it? And under which category is contesting for awards ?
Enlighten us
The biggest venure filled by your black coffee is Madison Square Garden and Burna Boy was the 1st African to even do it🤣🤣🤣tell me any other popular big venue that your black coffee or any other south african artists sold out?
Focalistic was the 1st ever south African artist to perform on the 02 Arena because Davido put him on
Black coffee is almost 50yrs of age and an OG,let's talk about your new generation artists achievements🤣because we are no more sleeping on the achievements of our OGs like 2Face,Dbanj,Psquare etc because they all performed on bigger venues too,we are talking about the new generation of artists making huge impact all over the world and creating history,our young stars are even beginning to rise to the occasion too,Asake,Rema,Ayra etc are already creating their own history too
So stop being biased or emotional with your analysis,be more factual
@@chisomokeke9951 I was commenting on the lie that non of their artist can fill something like O2 arena, Maddison square and O2 Arena are of the same capacity . I didn't know that we were talking about age and young artists.
We do have young artists filling venues triple size of venues here at home.
Also I didn't know that we were comparing Nigerian artists with south african artists.
@@chisomokeke9951 and instead of answering questions you just keep on deviating
The black man has a fundamental problem. The African will borrow jazz, hip pop, r&b, reggae, dance hall, rap etc and fuse these genres into their local music and sees no problem with that but if a fellow African takes their genre and adds it to their music it becomes an issue. Music is universal whether it’s created by a people or individual and can’t be gated.
Nijerians are ruining amapiano
No one has an issue with Nigerians doing Amapiano. Infact we are happy that they are doing them, even though we dont think its a pure version. The problem starts when people make certain claims which are unfounded, like "we made Amapiano popular" or "we are the original creators of Amapiano" now that is problematic. Give credit to where credit is due and everyone will be happy.
Nigerians are so obsessed about South Africa.
It’s the other way around, don’t give a shit about what y’all think
SA is heaven on earth to those ungrateful creatures
Very intelligent analytical breakdown by this dude. Just brilliant 👏🏿 👌🏿.
He lies though when he says Tyla' water is an Afrobeat song. He is spewing lies. Tyla's water is a mixture of American pop and Amapiano and she called it Popiano.
Nijerians are ruining Amapiano... That's why we must gatekeep it... Nobody listens to Nijerian music at events
They will claim it, thereafter dent they stole it.
Davido wiz and burna's networth combined is equal to black coffes networth
ishuuuuu!!!!!
No its not, when combined they have close to $55million
@@Ayo-kr4kf He is doing Afro house, yes house music is from chicago by black americans but if you listen to black coffee sound, please send me a link were black americans have created any sound that sounds like black coffee sound
But when was the last time they made a hit... When Last time they were relavant???
Keep arguing about Amapiano while we are now grooving to 3 step in SA.
I’m South African and to tell you the truth, when i think about Amapiano, Nigerian musicians are no where near top of the agenda when I think about the genre. It’s not a South Africa vs Nigeria thing. The real argument is about preserving our cultural artifacts. I think you’re overstating our sentiments about continental fusion and contributing negatively towards social cohesion for views, there is zero considerations of that in your broadcasting even with the very real and catastrophic consequences that this has on people. Very unAfrican.
What are u guys preserving and who is dragging ur culture music with u guys. Over the years the world jam to jazz, pop, reggae and hip pop. Those who own it have they ever critize or deprive anyone for using their genre to be made know globally.
The only thing I can fathom my head around this whole noise making is inferiority complex. You guys should be proud Nigeria artist made it global and stop all this hate or else u guys we stick to ur so-called gate keeping why Nigeria artist will be cashing out..
It’s hilarious to me that we’re the one’s being charged with an inferiority complex about something that we should have free rein to contribute towards. You’ve placed yourself at the centre of an argument about history, IP, pioneering, platforming,creating metrics of what constitutes good/bad, international orientation ect.
The general consensus is that people are free to fuse amapiano into their sounds, that is not our main concern. Our concern is the integrity and longevity of the sound, just like all the genres you named do. Our concerns are not the same and that’s okay. Good for you guys for jumping on to our sound, all the best 🤷🏾♀️.
May you reap what you sow in your commentary
@@nwabisamancotywa6001😂😂😂😂so who are the reason why you are not reaping what you sold.....are we nigerians stoping you 😂😂😂😂😂....abeg rest
If weren’t doing well they’d be nothing to talk about. So I’ll let you answer that question for yourself.
It is Not about jealousy but. Stealing .. You Steal and claim as yours .. thats shameful ..
Stealing how.. the whole world can tell the music is from South Africa. Calm down
Who is claiming it lol
😂😂😂😂😂 see this babalawo. My guy go face your work
Yes, just the same way Lucky Dude stole raggae and Casper stole hip hop. Stealing na stealing
@@anthonygodwininyadu254with this kind of thinking no wonder your government is so corrupt.
Why are these people always willing to steal what doesn't belong to them?
Because we can. And we make it better than what we steal. The hip hop and reggae you stole how far? You local amapiano we are helping you to take global you are complaining. The East African that use the genre why are SA not accusing them of stealing. Tyla's water that is essentially Afrobeats you don't hear us crying wolf.
Did Lucky Dube steal Reggae from Jamaica....its a free world bro, one love
My point exactly. Did Nigeria stole amapiano?
@@donaldodens1451No . Did he ever claim to be its vanguard and pioneer?
Why will say still, those South Africans not rap, have they stolen it from Jamaicans ?
The problem here is claiming the music.. If you can check social media you will some of my Nigerian brothers and sisters are keep pushing that narrative.
@@dustydustymelody3867 I haven't seen a Nigerian who claims Amapiano originated from Nigeria. Infact they don't have to do so because Nigeria's biggest hit songs are Afrobeats not Amapiano.
@@okiemute7744 Lots of them do, we see them everyday
That's what I keep telling people, Tyla's style of music is Afrobeats not Amapiano. She has some authentic Amapiano songs, but water and truth and dare are pure Afrobeats. And that's cool, just give credit instead of claiming it's amapiano
Another instance of Afrikans (or rather Black People) fighting needlessly.
These days l just come to observe with my popcorn 🍿
WORD🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
😂😂😂
This guy is factual, knowledgeable, honest, impartial, I have huge respect for him. As for this other one who keeps saying South Africans are jealous, I have no words for him.
Peace: from South Africa...
South African I mean a large of South Africans are millions because of Amapiano.
Nigeria can never do better than us in amapiano. Even our beats is just evident enough that we will forever be the originals of Amapaino. These days even new sub genres of amapiano are coming up like "Bique" or "Quantum sound". The soo called amapiano of Nigeria is in 2019 or pre covid sound while we already moved away from that sound to new fresher sound. Likes of Sizwe Nineteen, Nandipha808 and mellow and sleazy are great example of these new amapiano subgenres. It's great that everything we do Nigeria or Africa as whole copies, we are a special breed to be honest with you. We are bunch of creatives. Before amapiano there ws Gqom, before Gqom there was Kwaito etc... I'm proud of my people.
You can ask the Grammys. Lol
Yet we have a song nominated for the Grammys call amapiano and you don't. What an irony.
List the everything. South Africans are so deluded. They think they are better than other Africans. Guess what the days of Apartheid is over so get over that self pity and face the world.
@@mcdonald1821 we have more grammies than any african country lol💀💀😭check the stats. We the kings of Africa music.
@@anthonygodwininyadu254 there are 250 million Nigerians in Nigeria, exclude the ones outside of Nigeria. Of course ur will have more influence than anyone. Ur have the market we have the talent. Ur got the population we got the Quality. See the difference. We create what you do is copy and paste ur see?
Not even about that… it’s all about selling the right info to the world. A lot of Nigerians who drop Amapiano songs don’t put them under the Amapiano genre, they say Afrobeat or Pop or R&B. Lojay’s Mona Lisa is listed as an R&B song on the streaming platforms 🤣 the world has stolen a lot from Africa without giving a single shout out so it’s crazy when we do that to each other. SA artists dropped Afrobeat songs too when it was taking over but they made sure that everybody knew those songs were Afrobeat. Very few Nigerian artists shamelessly introduced Amapiano to the world without trying to tie it to Naija and that was Burna, Wiz, Davido, Kiddo… This isn’t as big as you guys make it, but the fans always fuel unnecessary arguments 🤣🥴 all love 🤟
So because we borrow the log drum sounds and fuses it to Afrobeats....so it should be completely called amapiano......see your yam head😂😂😂😂
Misplaced sense of false entitlement is what will kill many South Africans. Get up, work yourself out there. The world is a global village now, SA didn't invent the log drum, so What is the fuse about? Tyla's water is 90% Afrobeats yet South Africans persistently denies this fact just because they don't want to credit Nigerians. And you want credit. Practice what you preach.We are better at making our version more melodious. We owe you guys nothing. I don't hear you demanding such from East African. Let Nigerians breathe.
Exactly bro.. I dunno how much you know about music but every song is allowed to belong to more than one genre when enlisting. The log drum is amapiano dna so if you're gonna use it and not mention the genre, how's the world ever gonna know about this new genre from Africa? It's all our story and we need to tell it right or the world with fabricate.. imagine drake dropping an afrobeat and calling it pop or something
@@lifeiseezzy6892 now you should put that blame on your artists.......now go and read the history of afropiano.....how did it the name came into existence.....,.the same of your artists was the ones that ruined the idea......now you are here crying........the reason for your situation is inferiority complex........you guys behave as if you don't do Afrobeats......but guess what we know a lot of your Afrobeats songs....... including Sete...... .
SA artist don't do Afrobeats stop it
Unavailable was produced by Musa Keys A south african dj
This competition especially using south africa is the one that annoying
See all of you acting as if you aren't the ones who started it. You found our trouble and now we're attacking back and you started acting as if you're the victim ?😂😂😂
Tyla song Water is not Afrobeat its is an R&B infused with Amapiano
Tyla’s song is 90% Afrobeats. If you argue it, please tell me one South African song that sounds like that other than Nigerian songs?
@@topcattc76 uyadkwa wena she explained her sound
That is what you say to make you feel better. It is no more Afrobeats as Davido's unavailable is amapiano.
@@anthonygodwininyadu254 maybe explain what makes it afrobeat, she doesn't sing pidgin English, Tyala herself call it PopPiano it's RNB and you can here piano logdrum that allow her Barcadi dance moves
@@afrikawewant5390but I hear pidgin English from Tyla's song like: "Give me waater"
Amapiano was already hot all over Southern Africa and Eastern Africa long before the Nigerian artists and audiences jumped on it. International doesn't just mean Europe or the USA, Africa itself is very large. Uncle Waffles and Sha Sha are not South African, they are from Eswatini and Zim respectively.
You lot act like Nigeran music has always outdone the rest of Africa, not true. There are 'superstars' from every region. SA has the most grammys in Africa. Nigerian music has always been relevant but Afrobeats only went next level globally around 2016. And even then, its not like SA was globally irrelevant before Nigerians jumped on Amapiano. South African music scene was gaining lots of international attention due to social media, i.e Jerusalema was bigger than almost any Nigerian hit song in the last decade and brought more global attention to the SA music scene.
Lets also make it clear that Nigerian artists do not make Amapiano, they make Afrobeats/Afropop fusion and introduced that to audiences that already familiar with Afrobeats. They deserve credit, for giving SA more exposure but saying Amapiano is nothing without them is false, and an insult. They jumped on it when it was already trending. The same way Latino, Jamican, American and UK artists also helped spread Afrobeats internationally through collabs when it was already trending. No different from saying Drake made Afrobeats.
Amapiano is a form of House music which was created in Chicago, America.
I honestly think u guys are just being deliberately provocative. Even the title is inflammatory n outlandish.
Just enjoy the limelight without starting another furore with yet another african country.
Stop instigating something that may fester n potentially extend to other issues.
Amapiano is to be shared with everyone globally. That's what our artists said n do. I don't know where this gatekeeping stuff comes from. It is ridiculous.
Where on the net do u find videos of SAns accusing Nigerian musicians of stealing amapiano?
Come on guys.
I can sense some deep-rooted envy, especially from the guy behind the camera. condescending tone too. I always knew that these people hated us.
@@juba9000we hate u and u love us right???u sound more hateful than the guy behind the camera😂bitter human being
@@juba9000nobody hates you, you hate everyone.
@@topcattc76 I'm not talking to you.
Trust Nigerians to have a podcast among themselfs gloryfy themselfs, Tyler's music is poppiano stop lying to people saying her water song is Afrobeat
Please don't steal somebody's talent makes money out of it and proud is wrong.is a shame.but don't worry south african we will go on legally routes
Do Nigerians knw wats the meaning of ampiano?
Amapiano was created by South African local language if Nigerians want to claim it whch means they speak South African language in their country no one can steal Amapiano from us,they can argue but nothing will change
Water is not afrobeats is a poppiano
Go and listen to the elements of the song, it is 90% Afrobeats.
Who you dey try whine? Water is afrobeats down to the bones of the song😂😂😂
Yet, Tyla song water is number 1 on the Billboard US Afrobeat chart and UK Billboard afrobeats chart, which Tyla and team celebrated. Well if it is poppiano...lol...tell Tyla and her team to write a letter to billboard telling them that Water should be removed from the Afrobeats list because it is not afrobeats 😂😂
@@topcattc76 There is no element of the song that is Afrobeats, youll like to force things
Dey play. Water is a typical Aftofusion style music. It's what Nigeria typically does with Amapiano...
Bruh we dont care what yall do with the genre. The problem is not giving credit where it is due, and claiming something that is not yours to be yours.
This guy is contradicting himself, as South Africans we are angry with what Nigerians exported to the world as amapiano, because whatever it is its not amapiano, they should have given it another name not amapiano because again its not amapiano that their making and its annoying.
Since you guys like experimenting with genres, can you please start experimenting with toilets, I wanna see something.
Regardless of whomever does Amapiano real ones will know it originates from South Africa. Just like real ones know Afrobeats originates from Ghana. Nigerians just know how to add extra sauce a popularise tingz. Whether it be food or music...etc we should be continuing to embrace our other African counterparts we all need each other
You go explain taya
Who told you that Afrobeat originated from Ghana?
Adam the first man was created in Ghana. shameless poor ghanaians
Just like your liar Stonebwoy who goes around the world lying to the world in interviews saying that he is the pioneer of Afrobeats and that Ghana creates everything. Please tell him that there is nothing like Afrodancehall. Tell him that DefJam Records is about to drop him because they have invested millions pf dollars on him promoting and organizing his tours that was a total failure.
DefJam has not turned in any profits from their investment on Stonebwoy. His streams are nothing to write home about, His shows t=did not attract even a bored donkey.
DeFJam has now realized that you can not bend a dried fish, no mater how much waster you pour on it. Stonebwoy is dried fish who wants to be the jack of all trade. Now the world have rejected what he is selling to them and they are not buying anything from his interviews to his music..
Afrobeat originated from Fela and even Afrobeats was mainly Nigerian in the early 2000's. Ghana contributed massively but it was a Nigerian thing.
To realise Amarpiano is from the UK. Go Listen to Calvin Harris - how deep is your love and MJ Cole - be sincere
😂😂😂Here is another lie, Amapaino is more than 10 years olds prolly 15vyears old but only blew up across SA in 2018 after ur demise of Gqom music. 2019 it started to take off. Yall keep claiming
😂😂😂😂😂 Amapiano from the UK????? Stop lying.
@trayway3014 Can you share a link of a SA Amarpiano song older these two examples?
@anelegwele7160 Just my observation. I'm open to education
@@brunoultra7215 these are the impacts of not being intuned with global music genres ur start confusing the them. This is one of the reasons SA is way ahead of Nigeria interms of diversity of music genres that we play and that we created.
They gnna claim everything that's invented in south africa lol
I blame Focalistic for inching Nigerians to the Amapiano - he created this mess... 😊
Yes we stole it same way artiste in thier country singing foreign genres stole thiers... mumu question.
The word Amapiano is a two language word. Ama is isizulu n piano England n where are u brothers from Nigerian learnt to speak isizulu?
Ey my Brother this is so shallow
When did Amapiano get lost to Nigerians ? One thing about us South Africans ,we don't try to copy what others are doing ,we forge our own way instead.
Is not about Nigeria and south African, it always been an issue with amapino before it got international. kabza and killer Kau had a biff on who started amapiano when it was just popping. So relex yourself my brother you no nothing bwt the history of amapiano
Point of correction Nigerians did not still anything, Nigeria only make better use of the amapiano
That’s impossible 😂 Nigeria could and will never produce Amapiano song that will even come close to SA
Afrobeats from Ghana by the way... u stole it too.
Superstar profile is delusional
You guys are not advancing anything even this podcast is irrelevant cause you don't even have bigger hits of amapiano.. This guy is clout chasing and that's all they know
No south african ever chased a Nigerian cos thy are successful....u ddnt beg them to make ur music international....Amapiano became famous by Kabza the small...
Look bro many artists in the world why they are jumping into amapiano is that one of this days the music the used to do is fading away if you don't make amapiano no gigs and if there's no gigs no money hunger crips in and to comment on this guy he speaks rubbish
What happened to your Afrobeat, why are you abonding it
Abandon it for who?
How are we abounding afrobeats? We’re open minded and ready to explore. Now there a fusion and a new wave to afrobeats.
Point of correction you are not taking you are stealing .
NIGERIA DON'T PLAY AMAPIANO BUT AFROPIANO OR NIJAPIANO.
THE ORIGINAL AMAPIANO U KNOW HAVE BEEN REENGINEERD WITH THE TRADITIONAL NIGERIA BEATS AND IT IS NO MORE AMAPIANO BUT THE AFROPIANO OR NIJAPIANO.
Why are you guys using clave 3/2 which originated in nigeria and part of afrobeats?
Buga also na amapiano
Smh. Una no tire for this nonsense instead of we all should be looking for money. Mtschew. Una get time.
This man is talking pure NONSENSE. Water by Tyla is not an AFROBEAT. It is a POPIANO, a mixture of American pop and Amapiano.
Go and tell Bill Board USA & UK to remove that useless song from our Afrobeat global chat 👍
What the fuck is pop piano, hear yourself man, pathetic. That song is pure afrobeats it’s also difficult for Tyla to accept I get it.
Y’all want to claim the fame but don’t want to admit that Nigerians infused amapiano with Afro pop and made a new sound out of it.
Tylas song water is fusion of predominantly amapiano and Pop music not Afrobeats.
why are you capping on public platform🤣🤣🤣. She even confirmed it herself.
Man dey play, u go explain tire😂😂😂😂 Nigerian don't care we all about the money
Pop where? You would never admit it that Nigeria has influenced you bcos of pride. Even Tyla doesn’t know her genre of music.
@@topcattc76She said herself that it's pop-piano.
Lol, u guys are just being delusional.
If water was a song by a Nigerian l, will u guys still call it Amapiano?
That song is majorly Afrobeats. It has elements of Pop & Amapiano, but it's more of afrobeats than any other genre
@@santusunuovoraye6886 why are we arguing with Nigerians who can't tell the difference between amapiano and afrobeats?
I like your confidence but you rude small sha😂
They feel inferior towards Nigerians, there is no point dragging Nigerians on the sound, cus they're into pop, R&B, reggae, and afrobeats they don't own any
In South Africa nobody mentions Nigeria when talking about Amapiano your celebrities are making it up no one can do the genre better than SA
And secondly we’re not into raggae I don’t know any South African raggae artist except for the legendary Lucky Dube who passed away as for Afrobeat I don’t know any South African artist who’s invested in it
@@duchesstyra then you don't know music many of your artistes make afrobeats sounds infused it with amapiano like the way Nigeria do good example water by tyla,
Your amapiano is good for y'all not globally, none of your amapiano artistes has been nominated for Grammy but Nigeria got three songs up there, we make it better than y'all with vocals
@@laylandstanley4992 the fact that you’re rude tells me something about your upbringing
And Amapiano is not nonsense if it is leave alone focus on your stupid village genres that nobody cares about
🤣🤣 also you guys are only been nominated for Grammies now I understand the excitement, we have so many Grammies in SA and our population is only a fraction to you
Goodnight you rest
@@laylandstanley4992 before you sleep 😴 water by Tyla is not Afrobeat 🤣
@@duchesstyra google is always your friend, she claimed to be a pop and R&B with amapiano artiste, but yet her songs is created with afrobeats infused it with amapiano, that how we Nigerians created our own amapiano it different from south Africa amapiano, that what tyla is doing and some of your artistes too
As a Ghanaian 🇬🇭 we WARNED y’all South Africans 🇿🇦 not to bring Nigerians into Amapiano. They start to claim it and feel entitled. Y’all told Ghanaians and others we are jealous and bitter. Fast forward a year later now y’all are complaining that they say they created and do it better 😅. This is how Nigerians are hope y’all learned from this canon event.
If you can show me where Nigerians have ever claimed to own Amapiano (or any other non-Nigerian African genre), I’ll send you money right now. And I’m not talking about trolls on twitter that are replying to banter, show me one Nigerian artist or media house that has alluded to it. Blame the international outlets for that. You don’t see Jamaicans complaining that Ghanaians stole dancehall/reggae from them. You know why? Because you guys do it worse than them and aren’t anywhere near as successful with it.
Stop lying villager, Nigeria is not claiming Amapiano, the world knows South Africa owes it. Ghanaians cannot do anything for themselves even if your lives depended on it…always relying on others. Afrobeat is NIgerian, Ghana is just jealous that nobody is vibing to their whack genre. All Ghanaian artists trying to sound NIgerian…😂😂, Ghana claim something it can’t replicate.. Didn’t Ghana form Ghanapiano…who is copying who? Ghana the African headquarters of bitterness and Jealousy….FACTS
Ghanapiano, stealing Amapiano from SA. Ghana the African headquarters of jealousy and bitterness..
Ghanian mumu,yet your people are doing Rap that belongs to USA,Drill that originated from UK,Raggae and Dancehall that belongs to Jamaica and yet u have a problem with Nigeria doing other people's genre of music like the South African Amapiano,envy and jealousy is your problem,what about the failed ghanapiano?🤣🤣🤣mumu
@@chisomokeke9951Afrobeat that belong to Nigeria
I like the guest that come here who understand music, but it's clear Nigerians stole Amapiano and they rub in our faces you damn right it's provocative , it's so confusing we watched ya'll do your thing with Afrobeats. So what Afrobeats now since ya'll Amapiano ?
Buga
Julle praat kak!
Amapiano wasn't even invented by south Africa, if u doubt me check, (Calvin Harris how deep is ur love) that was made 11 years ago; the so-called South Africans stole it then😂
Listened and it doesn't sound Amapiano just a shaker am hearing..
Hats house music with Lil bit of techno touch not the Yanos
@Moonfacts 🤣🤣🤣That's exactly where the problem is, zero knowledge of House music, some of you still think Niniola does Yanos
@@lebo5281it's the arrogance of thinking they piano when they know absolutely Nothing.
@kamogelobobo3651 No shem, they are in it for the money and popularity. Zero appreciation of the art, that's why they speed it up and have a hypeman shout chants throughout the song. We cannot even appreciate the odd wind and water drop effect in a song.