Thoughts after Dallas Open
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Dallas is Hot
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Sometimes the apple, sometimes the core....you got this Lionel! Great analysis of your performance....your the professor of Triathlon! You make Canada proud!!!!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
"Sometimes the apple, sometimes the core" I have never heard this before, what does that mean?
Lionel! I feel this on every level, I had two super hot races this summer where I’m pretty sure I was borderline heat exhaustion (shivering/chills) while running. Hearing your struggle and the realities of hot weather racing gives me so much motivation for next year. Thank you for this. Cheering for you in kona 🇨🇦
Why would you be even remotely similar to an elite athlete?
13:00 - I’m liking what I am hearing at this point of this video. It sounds like you are going to use the ‘disciplined and patient’ approach that put you on the podium at St George earlier this year. In my view - hopefully - a repeat of this approach will see you repeat what you achieved in 2017 at Kona and at St George earlier this year. Unlike 2017, you should even finish as strongly as you did in St George.
Lionel, I've lived in Texas the past 25 years, but when I saw that there was a heat advisory on race day, I didn't hesitate to withdraw. Never mess with Texas heat and humidity.
Rooting for u Lionel! such humility and total dedication! truly an inspiration!
Lionel your such an inspiration I would follow you no matter how well you performed just due to two things, your work ethic and your transparency I’m 67 raised 4 successful children watched my wife suffer for 12 years and pass from cancer so take it from me like you giving up is not an option. You will be a wonderful parent. You don’t need luck in Kona you have everyone’s admiration.
Fully understood the Dallas issue. Let's focus on the next one.
Lionel, I'll watch Kona IM exactly until you cross the finish line, no matter if you are in front or last place. Even in the best case, this will be deep, deep in the night here in Germany. So I'm gonna "destroy" my weekend in a way. However you give so much inspiration for the upcoming 52 weeks, so I assume this is a good investment for me personally. Keep up your spirit. 💪
nicest open thoughts post race, that's what we are waiting for every race, GO LS!
Lionel you will rock at Kona 💪
To me that's what effort looks like..... Go Lionel, your the man!
Lionel you have a real champion mindset!! We never doubted you and you should never doubt yourself, take the lesson and run with it! Good luck at Kona!
How lucky we are to have Mr no Limits sharing his journey and experience. KONA Baby you got this!!
Love what you’re doing, LS. You’re an inspiration. Your candor, vulnerability and your pursuit of knowledge is remarkable. Thank you for sharing.
I raced at the same venue in April for the multisport nationals. Absolutely died on the course and underperformed.
Keeping grinding LS, the education is in the lessons! 👍🏽
I totally understand the frustration… but I have a long way to go for 3’57” on a good day. Just shows what kind of beast you are! 😳
As a person that trains in Houston and Colorado. Dry latitude kills heat adaptation. Also track dewpoint rather than %humidity. Dewpoint should be your skin temp on the bike. hunt shade. Also about altitude I agree with all the data points you shared, but I have a different conclusion. For me altitude is a good shock to the cardio system. And a way to push lactic threshold. It is bad for power, and form. Personally 2 weeks and over is too long. But that's just me a guy without a lactate meter.
As soon as I heard on the vid "heat wont be a factor" I was like nooo Lionel dont jinx it lol. Gotta respect Lionel's dedication to these videos, its must be insanely hard to come in to races with this huge reputation, huge expectations and then have a bad day and then have to go and sit there and explain it to 1000s of people.
Loved watching you race in Dallas in person, regardless. Missed my flight waiting for you to finish, lol, actually, just my bad planning. I love geeking out on data and really appreciate how you do the same! All the best for Kona, wish I were there.
Great, by himself as always, told chapter about Lionels journey again! Best time to recalibrate for the heat. I guess the thing to ask for, is the right power output on the bike, maybe its a bit too huge in some moments, BUT you will know it better by yourself! In the end Kona is all about the run. GO FOR IT! And - like always - thanks for sharing! :-)
super excited for the VLOGs !!! 🤩
U the Best Man!! I want to see You win kona Even more than yourself haha.. such an inspiration how You are so clear to tell everything. Big fan from Argentina. Crush it
Lionel and Paula way under performed in Dallas. Shocking that Canadians would struggle in the heat? 😂 Would love to see how a cool spring race would tip the scales for some of these athletes.
Neither of them lives in Canada though
Where you grew up has some effect to your body’s adaptation efficiency. Moreover, one of the theories that Lionel referenced but didn’t spell out is that there is a difference in be acclimated to dry heat vs humidity. It’s quite different and he was obviously pretty ignorant to it, maybe even arrogant about living in Tucson.
@@drym3943 humans are no longer exposed to evolutionary pressure. Unless his "Canadian" ancestors are native Inuit, this plays no role.
Uberbiker staying at home of uberbiker, how appropriate!
he lives in the desert in Tucson. doesn't quite have close to the humidity of texas but it is still very hot where he lives
Always learning and inspiring! LFG 🔥. (Btw, daily kona vlogs?? Heck yeah! 😁)
You got this Lionel!
So many negative comments! Bad races happen . . . end of story. You are on the road with a new coach and training approach with (the best team going - Erin, Mikal, Justin [swim coach], and all of your sponsors)! You don’t almost win Kona and finish 2nd for no reason . . . you train hard, have loads of talent and everyone knows you go to the deep end whilst competing pushing yourself to places all the haters have no clue about! 99% of people will not experience what you experience.
Anyone who is a real supporter of you Lionel understands that you will prepare yourself over these days prior to Kona (clearly gathering data to use this year and beyond) and toe the line doing the best you can! You’ll get the result, go home to Tucson, keep training and enjoying the life you and Erin have created in triathlon and at home and then welcome a baby into the world in the coming months! Then we’ll see an even better Lionel next year in 2023! Eliud Kipchoge just ran 2:01:09 at 37 yrs of age . . . you got time! Support in Victoria, BC CANADA!
I love listening to this dude self-destruct
You’re going to figure it out and take over the heat 🔥🔥
Legendary as always and great insight. Thanks Lionel.
The heat can be a challenge, but as you say you only know what you know.
It was good that you did Dallas and found out that you need to know more there, then you have a bit of time to learn some more before Kona.
Good luck!
You guys will figure it out, can’t wait for the nerdy videos. Give me all the daily vlogs!
I love it how you stopped yourself before talking about walking on the run. Especially given what you said at the start of the video and not tempting fate. Did make me laugh 😂
No limits! Keep grinding
You never really know how the body will respond. Dew point got me one year. It’s good you went to Kona early. This will help your body adjust
So good to hear your experience been training with core temperature meter for last month to get data on what happens when overheating and what my nutrition and salt and fluids can do to regulate or not and you just need to reduce output to get lower heart rate. For me the differences nearly 15 beats more when working in heat and core above 38.3 vs below that. See you in Kona racing on Thursday so able to come and watch on Saturday best of luck on preparations you got this No limits ok yes there are but deal with them wisely and get the core data during the bike as when it climbs it keeps climbing so adjust early to stay in control joris
I was gutted to see how tough Dallas was for you. But seeing this, in a very selfish way, I’m glad I’m not the only athlete that this happens to. I had a breakout race, best bike leg of my damn life, at a small local race in early July-only to get my ass absolutely handed to me at Age-Group Nationals in Milwaukee. Missed my goal of sub-2 hours by less than a minute, and I’m 120% sure it was because of a lack of adequate heat acclimation. It’s…not *encouraging,* per se, but at least *reassuring* to know that the pros, the best of the best, sometimes have the same struggles, and it really IS encouraging to know that there’s something we can do about it-that we can learn to beat the conditions more than they beat us.
Do your best forget the rest! Time to get out of your head and grind this race with everything you got and when you're breaking, think about your kid and grind some more.
Oh Lionel i wish u the best race that u ever had in Kona. I will see u on the podium💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Such an inspiration.
You are amazing & such a talented & stellar athlete......thank you for all you do & best of luck in Kona.....you will beat the heat!!! Cheers!
Hilarious. Best content on triathlon by far. Lionel is THE BEST
I live and train everyday in it, south Louisiana, heat and humidity zap the life out you. I even forget sometimes as I find myself struggling with disappointment regarding my training sessions. Hope you can find works for you, best of luck!!
Thanks!
The thing is, Lionel has raced well in Kona with a 2nd; I wonder if it was low humidity that day! Maybe opting for a more ventilated helmet might help, like Crowie has done before; just a thought.
Your weight all good bro? You look more ripped that normal. You are an inspiration!
Keep showing up champion. She'll turn. 👍
Holistically, you are the best male Tri athlete in the world. Hands down. Thank you for sharing ALL you share and I hope you keep doing it for a long time and maybe one day get you to coach us. Go crush Kona.
Dont be mad Lionel, you cant always shine like a star
Yes!!!
Vlogs are taking us to school Lionel! We should call you the scientist! Get ‘R Dun Captain Canada!!! Keep smiling!
Being real with yourself is one of the most humble things you can do.
Sounds like you have a plan - looking forward to seeing how that pans out. 🤞Either way, you might have to accept high LOE in the heat isn’t your thing - hopefully there’s a fix. I’ve felt / shared your pain after some races - definitely think you should invest in some scientific lab testing under heat conditions. You might find a solution but you might not. Best of luck for Kona!💪👍🏻
looking forward to the daily vlogs
No Limits! Maybe the PTO and Ironman could introduce the Core sensor as a requirement across the field in night temp races. You’ll hopefully not see anyone lying down for a delirium induced sleep mid race.
Having done many swims in the heat and humidity of the tropics I can assure you, you are getting cooked and dehydrated (and you don’t necessarily feel it) and it’s exhausting. Especially at midday. Also the swim caps hold on the heat and make it worse, take it off if possible. I really can’t believe the US Open start time of 2:45pm. You won’t have that problem swimming in the morning at Kona.
Also, I’ve used those WynnRepublic trisuits in the heat (the ones Collin Chartier used) they are excellent at helping staying cool. Just keep them wet with water through the aid stations.
Tapering is so important going into a hot race. You are best if peaking because any exhaustion will just get amplified in heat and humidity.
As well as your nutrition leading up to race day. Avoid, as the Chinese call them, warming or hot foods (fried foods, oily foods, wheat, beef, breads), any inflammatory food really, and take in many of the cooling foods (bananas, apples, lemon, spinach, green beans, peas, purple cabbage, watercress, avocado, kidney beans, adzuki beans…many others) and most importantly watermelon and some coconut water
Very good advice.
Keep it simple and don’t overthink everything LS. That race was too hot and perhaps not Safe. I was there and it sucked!! They should have never had that race that late. 2:45. Really !!!! I’m just glad that no one got really injured! keep your head up and chase after CB #nolimits
Hey Lionel, Dry heat is not at all the same as Humid heat.....OMG....i go to Vegas i have zero sweat at 45 Celcius and up here in Canada, 29 Celcius with 70% humidity i sweat like a pig you will figure it out... sooner or later
For me, "racing" is only against myself and to finish.. but heat (especially with humidity) zaps me physically and mentally.. and wonder if I could even drink/absorb enough to keep up. I also agree with the comment about Collin.. I mean how does someone finish that race in that heat and barely look like he worked up a sweat???
I just raced a mountain race in Flagstaff this past weekend, and had to pass through Phoenix on the way. Phoenix was 105 degrees and basically no humidity. In the past I have lived on the East coast and dealt with 90 degree days with 50% + humidity. there is no comparison between dry heat and humid heat. humid heat will suck the life out of you. I would rather race in 105 degree heat with 5% humidity vs 85 degrees and 50% + humidity .
No limits! You’ll crush the nutrition this year.
been waiting on this for a week!
No frills, just guts: "It sucked. I want to learn. I will observe data and take lessons from that." Friggin legend, go Lionel!
300W for a 2:00 70.3 bike split if you calculate 45km/hr suggests to me you're power meter was reading off that day.
You are a beast 👍
let's go!!!
Imagine putting out 300 watts or running 3:57 per km. For a middle distance race. Yep, I dream of that.
What was your hydration, electrolyte and salt intake like in Dallas?? Can you use anything from that to perform better in Kona??
Best of luck!!
Why doesn’t Lionel use the green bike anymore?
I don't think this will be your year but I think if you use this as a test and stick with Mikal, you are the favorite next year. Stick with it
I like heat but I grew up in south texas my entire life so this is my normal. But if you put me in cold weather I’m literally MISERABLE. It’s currently 60F and I’m sitting at the dog park at 6:30am in a nice jacket
Did he end up tapering or not? Plan apparently wasnt to. Doesnt that account for at least part of it?
Stop the over analyzing. Stop the over-thinking. Rest your mind in the next nine days or so, easy up on the killer workouts to an easy fun paces and you’ll be happy with your performance. Predictions…. If you relax, you’ll win.
Yep time to reread the Growth Mindset book.
simply win it. enough said.
Rip it in Kona!!
Sorry to be that guy.. if the heat is an issue, shouldn’t you be training almost solely in heat conditions? Both inside and outside? Then the cold races (which you are great in) will still be there.. anywho. Good luck at Kona. Hoping the best and I know you will bounce back. Heart of a lion.
New tooth!!!!!!
I believe in u , hugs and kisses
Can Lionel make a tee shirt that just says "Admittedly" ?
Lionel discovers you have to go easier in the heat. Classic.
The Kona heat and humidity can cut you down...Hoping for some clouds and light rain to throttle the sweat rate.
PS - See yuz in the douches!!!
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would like to see Lionel get rid of the TT bike and go back to Canyon Triathlon bike. can carry more nutrition, especially for the heat in Kona.
Maybe not eating enough Lionel? You definitely got a lot leaner!
Wear a different helmet? Less aero…but more ventilation. Maybe?
@Lionel Sanders listen to motivational podcasts | the mindset of a winner - Kobe Bryant Champions Advice.
Go to G.O.A.T mountain of triathlon
Want a higher heat tolerance….. better wear white just like blu!
Just ett enough carbs!!! Heats the problem!!!
Sounds like Lionel and heat do not get along....when he is soaked with sweat and others are dry , not going to happen. May be too late,
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with you or your training Lionel. Humans have wildly different endurance abilities in heat. There's actually not a lot of quality science on it. It is however a very real phenomenon. It's possible you are simply exceptional in lower temperature ranges. Personally, I'd confirm what temps I excelled in and target those events... if possible. Kona is basically a heat tolerance test. I feel it's a far from optimal or logical event. Hopefully, in years to come it will have vastly less significance.
The tooth is back 😊
Why the hell would the PTO schedule a race for the middle of the day in Dallas in September? There will be a lawsuit when someone dies, which won't be long if they don't change something. Just a very stupid move.
Got the tooth fixed on the bright side
What I really found ridiculous when wattching the video was how one can see how much Lionel sweats!
Best of luck for Big Island, for sure, Lionel!!
Lionel I am fan of you many years now but I feel some kind of disappointment. I mean I know the heat was cruel but it was for everyone. And it's not you' re in triathlon a couple of years not to know how to handle the heat. I think you have to admit that your fitness it's not solid and you have to work on that. Heat or cold, hydrated or not, tired or fresh.
looks like you overpronate on your right foot, do you dress that somehow, asking because I´m the same, much less pronounced on the left
I think you’re closer than you know. Although, I’m not as gifted as you are.
Teeth has growed, but ur mind and spirit getting lost.
You are far too hard on yourself
wishing u good luck!
Living and training my whole life in Dallas-Fort Worth is eye-opening. WKO5 software has a PDC curve at different temps in 10ºF buckets. My 100ºF is about 62 W lower at 4 hours vs. 50-60º. Happy to share that WKO5 dashboard with you where your info can fly in. So if I am doing a race in 100+ i know i need to back off 58-62 watts vs 50-60º F. No guessing. Grab the chart here. drive.google.com/file/d/1v9DnwhvTo5Nv0nA23eL6e0k1evDUrupm/view?usp=sharing