“What do I want? To live and not to suffer," he answered. And again he listened with such concentrated attention that even his pain did not distract him. "To live? How?" asked his inner voice. "Why, to live as I used to-well and pleasantly." "As you lived before, well and pleasantly?" the voice repeated. And in imagination he began to recall the best moments of his pleasant life. But strange to say none of those best moments of his pleasant life now seemed at all what they had then seemed-none of them except the first recollections of childhood. There, in childhood, there had been something really pleasant with which it would be possible to live if it could return. But the child who had experienced that happiness existed no longer, it was like a reminiscence of somebody else.”
I disagree, Ivan in the end found his answer. He finally understood his question: What is death? He finally understood in the end that he's been living a death-like existence, a moral death. When he understood this and accepted death, his pain stops and he said "Death is finished......it is no more!"
Given the the pace of life, it is difficult to always remember know important it is to leave a fulfilling one. The importance of doing so only completely occupies a person's mind when the imminence of their own death hits them like a freight train. It was too late for Ivan Ilyich, but it's not to late for us.
"Maybe I did not live as I ought to have done," it suddenly occured to him. "But how could that be, when I did everything properly?' he replied, and immediately dismissed from his mind this,the sole solution of all the riddles of life and death, as something quite impossible.
I like the interpretation of the disease, and how Tolstoj does not in detail describe the origins of this disease, so as to bring the reader in Ivan Ilitsj' place :) very good interpretation
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“What do I want? To live and not to suffer," he answered.
And again he listened with such concentrated attention that even his pain did not distract him. "To live? How?" asked his inner voice.
"Why, to live as I used to-well and pleasantly."
"As you lived before, well and pleasantly?" the voice repeated.
And in imagination he began to recall the best moments of his pleasant life. But strange to say none of those best moments of his pleasant life now seemed at all what they had then seemed-none of them except the first recollections of childhood. There, in childhood, there had been something really pleasant with which it would be possible to live if it could return. But the child who had experienced that happiness existed no longer, it was like a reminiscence of somebody else.”
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An incredible passage of this book. Just finished it. Am amazed. Jesus what a great man Tolstoy is.
I disagree, Ivan in the end found his answer. He finally understood his question: What is death? He finally understood in the end that he's been living a death-like existence, a moral death. When he understood this and accepted death, his pain stops and he said "Death is finished......it is no more!"
Agreed, Ivan found the answer of life's true meaning through compassion for his family.
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Given the the pace of life, it is difficult to always remember know important it is to leave a fulfilling one. The importance of doing so only completely occupies a person's mind when the imminence of their own death hits them like a freight train. It was too late for Ivan Ilyich, but it's not to late for us.
this book made a scar on my sould...really touching!
omg!!!! mine too
"Maybe I did not live as I ought to have done," it suddenly occured to him. "But how could that be, when I did everything properly?' he replied, and immediately dismissed from his mind this,the sole solution of all the riddles of life and death, as something quite impossible.
The novel gives an insight into what death is, and what one is supposed to do in the face of imminent death. A great experience.
Every word is important, when reading such a book (The least example: the hit was in the left side of the stomach, so the appendix cannot be involved)
Really moving book. Great lecture as well. I now want to read the book again.
In Russian: it = оно ; she = она ; he = он. But anyways - a profound analysis. Well told.
I like the interpretation of the disease, and how Tolstoj does not in detail describe the origins of this disease, so as to bring the reader in Ivan Ilitsj' place :) very good interpretation
Very interesting and illuminating talk. Thank you.
Kaufman isn't lecturing-he's preaching. Straight dope.
This story was set in the present
He didnt question his existence or purpose
His description is the experience of un remitting pain and sufferring
Where can I find the rest of this lecture?
Andrew Edling It's on RUclips. Just search for "Death of Ivan Illych"
Fascinating!
i highly encourage you to read "What I Believe" by Tolstoy and you will understand how Tolstoy thought Ivan Illyich ought to have lived.
fascinating about "it" also meaning "she" in Russian.
that is incorrect. russian native speaker
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Does it have the same sound? Like a play on words?
@@Shiro642 No, not at all. Nothing in common.
"it" in russian can also mean "he" not just "she"
it can't. russian native speaker
no he didnt