Very well said. In India the CPI(M), SUCI (C), CPI, CPI (M-L) are all representative of the Menshevik faction of the old RSDLP. This is why inspite of the fact that there exists a strong proletarian class, the betrayal of these Mensheviks by collaborating with Bourgeois Parties, is acting as a gas chamber for the working class. They are asphyxiating the revolution.
Buddy, u have appeared n disappeared Lenin n the n bolsheviks several times in ur more than dishonest0 n 😅twisted presentation. If we follow ur line of thinking we might as well call it Marxism troskyism. If not for the danger n harm u present to our class, it'd be laughable.
In Socialism4All's newest video, he denounces the RCA for being trotskyite. I see this sentiment online and it almost seems like a meme at this point. Why does this have a stigma towards it and how does this get mended to avoid infighting and progress toward the common goal?
there are two main reasons for the online Stigma of Trotskyism: 1. The Stalinists, after the death of Lenin, did everything in their power to utilize Lenin as an Icon to justify every twist and turn in their politics that was meant exclusively to preserve the existence of the bureaucracy. Trotsky represented the real continuation of the ideas of revolution (i.e. world revolution and internationalism vs socialism in one country and the narrow national interests of the Russian bureaucracy) and so he had to be mercilessly attacked and persecuted. 2. After the death of Trotsky, the 4th international, which was filled with very few people who understood the ideas Marxism, degenerated into a myriad of sects, many of which had a number of incorrect ideas, such as thinking that the USSR was "state capitalism" rather then a degenerated workers state and that the USSR was not worth defending during the second world war (which was not Trotsky's position, he defended the gains of the revolution until the day he died) and that the 3rd world war was just around the corner.
Because Trotsky misrepresents himself, the Bolsheviks, & history. Because Trotskyists do those things as well. Because Troysky's project of castigating the first attempts at socialism was in the interest of the national bourgeoisie of imperialist countries. Because Trotskyism is euro-centric and irrelevant to 20th century-to-present anti-imperialist class struggle. Because Trotskyism is idealist and purist. Because every child growing up in the imperialist nations "knows" communism is impossible because "Snowball was the good pig".
Wake up comrade. All these Bolshevik Revolutionaries were doing the work of the corporate globalists, e.g. the Rothchilds, the Warburg's, the Rockefellers, etc. Are you aware that Leon Trotsky was living in New York City when the Russian Revolution broke out and that he quickly travelled over to Petrograd, Russia with a U.S. passport given to him by the Woodrow Wilson Administration/Colonel House and several million dollars given to him by Jacob Schiff of the Kuhn-Loeb Bank in New York. My friend, now how in the heck is that a grassroots revolution by the masses??? Do not be fooled. Anything that impedes man's individual freedom and prosperity, like Bolshevik collectivism, is NOT grassroots!!
ruclips.net/video/IUieTHMu--U/видео.html Very important to watch this presentation on Trotskyism - both the theory of permanent revolution, Trotsky’s anti-soviet history, and the activity of Trotskyites in the west (in particular) today.
I appreciate the work of this organisation, especially its pro-Palestine activity, but this is disappointing. Trotsky, an opportunist who was condemned as such by Lenin, and one who collaborated with Nazi Germany against the USSR- what a shame that you defend him and his erroneous ideas
Let me guess: You've got this from some other left, or you've read furr. Read and look for yourself. Furr was already debunked a million times. And saying that Trotsky, who was a jew and whose face was used as THE anti-semitic propaganda as a bolshevik jew, was a collaborator? The one who defended the ussr till his death? It would be nice if you could research yourself and check the info.
@twistedcrazywildzany "Trotsky, however, possesses no ideological and political definiteness, for his patent for “non-factionalism”, as we shall soon see in greater detail, is merely a patent to flit freely to and fro, from one group to another.” “Trotsky’s “non-factionalism” is, actually, splitting tactics” “Under cover of “non-factionalism” Trotsky is championing the interests of a group abroad which particularly lacks definite principles, and has no basis in the working-class movement in Russia” "Trotsky was an ardent Iskrist in 1901-03, and Ryazanov described his role at the Congress of 1903 as “Lenin’s cudgel”. At the end of 1903, Trotsky was an ardent Menshevik, i. e., he deserted from the Iskrists to the Economists. He said that “between the old Iskra and the new lies a gulf”. In 1904-05, he deserted the Mensheviks and occupied a vacillating position, now co-operating with Martynov . . . In 1906-07, he approached the Bolsheviks, and in the spring of 1907 he declared that he was in agreement with Rosa Luxemburg.” (Disruption of Unity Under Cover of Outcries for Unity - Lenin, 1914)
I see a problem in here with conflating "socialism in one country" with "bourgeois revolutions". I really thought I had heard once that Lenin had already considered socialism in one country, but now I see: Lenin explained the idea that one or two countries would inspire the others to revolution only over a while, but didn't necessarily say it couldn't be a combined revolution. But I think there is an error here in trying to tie things like the KMT debacle to positions of "Western" parties back to "Stalinism" as if it's all just one thing
I expect to be skewered on a stick for posting this comment, but here it goes. I never wanted children for a lot of reasons, never had them, and never regretted my decision for one minute and I'm decades past menopause. When I was a teenager, I saw my mother's pendulous breasts, flabby belly and my grandmother's prolapsed uterus, quickly figured out the reason, and decided I wanted no part of that. Humans are in no danger of dying out. There will always be women who, for some unfathomable reason, lust after the idea of getting pregnant and giving birth -- I'm just not one of them. And if humanity doesn't succeed in doing self in, within a few decades the artificial womb will have been perfected, and articles like this one will be a historical curiosity and a moot point. (Letter to the Editor, NYT, "Opinion: After Birth: How Motherhood Changed My Relationship With My Body", +2019.01.19)
It's all very correct, but it's also a bit of a drawing-room intellectual lecture. Where is your revolution? Your organisation could get the revolution going (if it wanted to), but of course, how do you know you are not infiltrated? What steps have you taken to detect infiltrators? Are you using technology in this regard? Or are you 'Luddites'?
forestsoceansmusic thank god they have no chance. I went to a few meetings of this Cult with my dad, who is a paid up member. as soon as I was old enough, about 14, i realised what a crock of shit it all was, especially when they started talking about how many gullible students they’d managed to recruit to the cause, and the “political education” sessions, where they all read Alan Woods and said how great it was. Occasionally they’d “analyse” a book from a member of another party, and “critique” it. I had by this point started to get interested in “bourgeoise” philosophers like Jean Paul-Sartre, himself an avowed communist, just a rather idiosyncratic one. When I told the leader of the group, he asked me “why would you want to read that?” Needless to say, that was the end of my relationship with communism in general. So in short, yes I would rather they where more vocal about their “revolution”, or as normal society puts it: wish to execute the political opposition. Being more vocal about it would give the police an excuse to arrest the fuckers.
What a stupid platitude. Of course there has been progress in gradually improving the condition of the mass of humanity, not negated by the fact that as each originally-new and originally-progressive system falls into decline and decay, things get bad for the majority again. But we're still better off than serfs. The first Bolsheviks were the Calvinists, who stopped 'turning the other cheek' and rose up in armed struggle against the feudal Roman Catholic Empire, which was the main ideological Form of the initial bourgeois-democratic revolutionary Content throughout Northern Europe.
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Very well said. In India the CPI(M), SUCI (C), CPI, CPI (M-L) are all representative of the Menshevik faction of the old RSDLP. This is why inspite of the fact that there exists a strong proletarian class, the betrayal of these Mensheviks by collaborating with Bourgeois Parties, is acting as a gas chamber for the working class. They are asphyxiating the revolution.
@@Dibyajit1917 Communism had failed
Great speech! Thank you for such interesting explanation!
Buddy, u have appeared n disappeared Lenin n the n bolsheviks several times in ur more than dishonest0 n 😅twisted presentation. If we follow ur line of thinking we might as well call it Marxism troskyism. If not for the danger n harm u present to our class, it'd be laughable.
In Socialism4All's newest video, he denounces the RCA for being trotskyite. I see this sentiment online and it almost seems like a meme at this point. Why does this have a stigma towards it and how does this get mended to avoid infighting and progress toward the common goal?
there are two main reasons for the online Stigma of Trotskyism:
1. The Stalinists, after the death of Lenin, did everything in their power to utilize Lenin as an Icon to justify every twist and turn in their politics that was meant exclusively to preserve the existence of the bureaucracy. Trotsky represented the real continuation of the ideas of revolution (i.e. world revolution and internationalism vs socialism in one country and the narrow national interests of the Russian bureaucracy) and so he had to be mercilessly attacked and persecuted.
2. After the death of Trotsky, the 4th international, which was filled with very few people who understood the ideas Marxism, degenerated into a myriad of sects, many of which had a number of incorrect ideas, such as thinking that the USSR was "state capitalism" rather then a degenerated workers state and that the USSR was not worth defending during the second world war (which was not Trotsky's position, he defended the gains of the revolution until the day he died) and that the 3rd world war was just around the corner.
Because Trotsky misrepresents himself, the Bolsheviks, & history. Because Trotskyists do those things as well. Because Troysky's project of castigating the first attempts at socialism was in the interest of the national bourgeoisie of imperialist countries. Because Trotskyism is euro-centric and irrelevant to 20th century-to-present anti-imperialist class struggle. Because Trotskyism is idealist and purist. Because every child growing up in the imperialist nations "knows" communism is impossible because "Snowball was the good pig".
Well done, comrade.
Wake up comrade. All these Bolshevik Revolutionaries were doing the work of the corporate globalists, e.g. the Rothchilds, the Warburg's, the Rockefellers, etc.
Are you aware that Leon Trotsky was living in New York City when the Russian Revolution broke out and that he quickly travelled over to Petrograd, Russia with a U.S. passport given to him by the Woodrow Wilson Administration/Colonel House and several million dollars given to him by Jacob Schiff of the Kuhn-Loeb Bank in New York. My friend, now how in the heck is that a grassroots revolution by the masses??? Do not be fooled. Anything that impedes man's individual freedom and prosperity, like Bolshevik collectivism, is NOT grassroots!!
@@isismccain915 what exactly is this "cooperate globalist" agenda.
Who's building the flat pack garden shed in the background?
ruclips.net/video/IUieTHMu--U/видео.html Very important to watch this presentation on Trotskyism - both the theory of permanent revolution, Trotsky’s anti-soviet history, and the activity of Trotskyites in the west (in particular) today.
It is one of the thesis of marxism,it was not also Trotsky's primary theory
I appreciate the work of this organisation, especially its pro-Palestine activity, but this is disappointing. Trotsky, an opportunist who was condemned as such by Lenin, and one who collaborated with Nazi Germany against the USSR- what a shame that you defend him and his erroneous ideas
Let me guess: You've got this from some other left, or you've read furr. Read and look for yourself. Furr was already debunked a million times. And saying that Trotsky, who was a jew and whose face was used as THE anti-semitic propaganda as a bolshevik jew, was a collaborator? The one who defended the ussr till his death? It would be nice if you could research yourself and check the info.
when was Trotsky condemned by Lenin?
@twistedcrazywildzany "Trotsky, however, possesses no ideological and political definiteness, for his patent for “non-factionalism”, as we shall soon see in greater detail, is merely a patent to flit freely to and fro, from one group to another.”
“Trotsky’s “non-factionalism” is, actually, splitting tactics”
“Under cover of “non-factionalism” Trotsky is championing the interests of a group abroad which particularly lacks definite principles, and has no basis in the working-class movement in Russia”
"Trotsky was an ardent Iskrist in 1901-03, and Ryazanov described his role at the Congress of 1903 as “Lenin’s cudgel”. At the end of 1903, Trotsky was an ardent Menshevik, i. e., he deserted from the Iskrists to the Economists. He said that “between the old Iskra and the new lies a gulf”. In 1904-05, he deserted the Mensheviks and occupied a vacillating position, now co-operating with Martynov . . . In 1906-07, he approached the Bolsheviks, and in the spring of 1907 he declared that he was in agreement with Rosa Luxemburg.”
(Disruption of Unity Under Cover of Outcries for Unity - Lenin, 1914)
Taping a guy standing in a room shouldn't be that hard. WTF.
These are communists bro... everything is a struggle.
@@stinkfinga4918 that's a great pun. feel proud of yourself.
I see a problem in here with conflating "socialism in one country" with "bourgeois revolutions".
I really thought I had heard once that Lenin had already considered socialism in one country,
but now I see: Lenin explained the idea that one or two countries would inspire the others to revolution only over a while, but didn't necessarily say it couldn't be a combined revolution.
But I think there is an error here in trying to tie things like the KMT debacle to positions of "Western" parties back to "Stalinism" as if it's all just one thing
Trotskyists won’t let me comment here. Hmm.
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I really want an american passport and 10k dollars like Trotsky 😇
I expect to be skewered on a stick for posting this comment, but here it goes. I never wanted children for a lot of reasons, never had them, and never regretted my decision for one minute and I'm decades past menopause. When I was a teenager, I saw my mother's pendulous breasts, flabby belly and my grandmother's prolapsed uterus, quickly figured out the reason, and decided I wanted no part of that. Humans are in no danger of dying out. There will always be women who, for some unfathomable reason, lust after the idea of getting pregnant and giving birth -- I'm just not one of them. And if humanity doesn't succeed in doing self in, within a few decades the artificial womb will have been perfected, and articles like this one will be a historical curiosity and a moot point. (Letter to the Editor, NYT, "Opinion: After Birth: How Motherhood Changed My Relationship With My Body", +2019.01.19)
It's all very correct, but it's also a bit of a drawing-room intellectual lecture. Where is your revolution? Your organisation could get the revolution going (if it wanted to), but of course, how do you know you are not infiltrated? What steps have you taken to detect infiltrators? Are you using technology in this regard? Or are you 'Luddites'?
Infiltrators could not stop a revolution anyway. It did nt in 1917 with the zarist infiltrators
forestsoceansmusic thank god they have no chance. I went to a few meetings of this Cult with my dad, who is a paid up member. as soon as I was old enough, about 14, i realised what a crock of shit it all was, especially when they started talking about how many gullible students they’d managed to recruit to the cause, and the “political education” sessions, where they all read Alan Woods and said how great it was. Occasionally they’d “analyse” a book from a member of another party, and “critique” it.
I had by this point started to get interested in “bourgeoise” philosophers like Jean Paul-Sartre, himself an avowed communist, just a rather idiosyncratic one. When I told the leader of the group, he asked me “why would you want to read that?” Needless to say, that was the end of my relationship with communism in general.
So in short, yes I would rather they where more vocal about their “revolution”, or as normal society puts it: wish to execute the political opposition. Being more vocal about it would give the police an excuse to arrest the fuckers.
"The point is not merely to understand the world, but to change it." -- Karl Marx
forestsoceansmusic the end result of trying to change the world is to make it worse.
What a stupid platitude. Of course there has been progress in gradually improving the condition of the mass of humanity, not negated by the fact that as each originally-new and originally-progressive system falls into decline and decay, things get bad for the majority again. But we're still better off than serfs. The first Bolsheviks were the Calvinists, who stopped 'turning the other cheek' and rose up in armed struggle against the feudal Roman Catholic Empire, which was the main ideological Form of the initial bourgeois-democratic revolutionary Content throughout Northern Europe.
He sounds like Desi Arnaz.
"Loocy, I'm home from De club "