Great episode. I did not miss the infected. I like the focus here in the series on the characters. "If you lost in the darkness, look for the light" If Ellie was the light in the darkness, there is not much left of it now. For Joel, it's still enough. He regains his light through her, at the same time she loses hers through this world. Another low point for Ellie and a turning point for her. Here the animal in Ellie came out with her overkill and the experience she had to make. Almost r*p*d and eaten. Here she experiences for the first time the worst abysses in man. I think if you've seen Ellie's past reactions to losses, there wasn't much anger involved. She swallowed Sam's and Henry's death completely. Here in her outburst really everything came out, which was not seen before. There is no way back for her. She will not be the same anymore. The episode is also important for the future. It shows what Ellie is capable of. A dark side in her that people like David recognize. We have already seen this in her. Her slightly morbid side when she tortured the stalker and then kills him (because of Riley). She gets very close to a dead man who has just committed suicide and then laughs as he breaks through the ground. She watches in fascination when Joel beats the soldier to death in episode 1. The constant asking for a gun. This side in her is not dominant but it is there. Another very good change to the game was to show that Joel didn't manage to interrupt Ellie's Overkill. So this scene ran much longer than in the game. Which shows that Ellie does not come to an end so easily when she has started something based on her emotions. Her emotions/charakter don't allow that. This wasn't just an overkill, this was an over-overkill. Of course, absolutely understandable. Btw. Ellie doesn't infect anyone unless tentacles grow out of her mouth. So she was just bluffing great. If you pay attention and listen at the beginning, you can see that the Hannah's mother keeps making "pssst pssst" while her daughter is crying. She does this out of fear, because her daughter is louder than David's voice and as we see later, he hates interruptions in his speeches. We learned that David and James use codes when they speak. So it is easy to imagine that they did not spoted a deer but humans. The conversation they had about how much rations they still have was certainly coded. Three human bodies were hanging there. That's what should last another week or two. Then they decided to go hunting after a "deer". The four men David sent out two episodes ago were certainly also on the hunt for people. That's why Joel was directly attacked. Even though David says that only a few people know and he certainly believes that, I think everyone there knows what they are eating. They are all afraid of David and he is their provider after all. No one asks questions because nobody wants to hear the answer, but everyone knows. If you say something, it becomes true. For them, David is God and every time David speaks of God or Father, he means himself. Even the banner in the steakhouse "when we are in need, he shall provides" is nothing more than a reminder to people that it is David who ensures their survival and not God. In the episode about religion and belief, David is the devil in human form. The devil seduces, the devil lies, and the devil loves fire. That's why he lets the steakhouse burn. This is a methapher. We're supposed to see who David is. The shot just before Ellie attacks David shows this very well. He stands in a wall of fire. The story David told Ellie by the campfire is certainly not true either. He said they were ambushed by raiders after they fled Pittsburgh. I'm sure they didn't escape them, they ate them and they certainly weren't raiders. He just wanted to have Ellie's trust. He wanted to be her good new pedodaddy. David is a pedo and he always has been. Until the apocalypse, he suppressed this and he used to be a teacher. One of the children taught. His entire fungus talk was nothing more than a parallel to it, so that he does not have to name his sick nature. The father of the girl Joel killed will always be with her. After all, mommy cooked him well. And of course, David has real penicillin for Ellie. They don't want to eat infected meat. It bothered me at first that none of the people of the city showed up at the end. But of course, the rest of the people didn't realize what was going on. The weather is shit and cold. They will sit in their houses and scrape the remains of the girls daddy out of their teeth. 😬 Okay, enough macabre. 😁 I also think it's cool and urgently needed that the torture scene actually showed us explicitly how Joel has proceeded over the last 20 years. This was the first time it was really shown why everyone was afraid of Joel in episode 1. This is Joel we know and he liked it. This is Joel when Ellie is not with him. Troy Baker (Game Joel) as James was sensationell good. I didn't think that one day I would have to see Ellie kill Joel. A nice Tess callback from Ellie in the conversation with David. "Your (our) luck had to run out sooner or later." were Tess's words shortly before she had shown Joel her bite. Ashley Johnson (Game Ellie) will appear in the finale in a flashback.
Thank you for sharing your detailed thoughts on the episode! And love how they are including game cast members into the show that's amazing! Can't wait to watch the finale later today!
Joel rammed a knife between the first guy's neck and shoulder. He didn't strangle him. The knife he got from Ellie. He then used the same knife during interrogation.
At what point did you realize what was really going with the meat 😳
They fed the girl her father.
@@red90rover98 yup so messed up!
Same as Ellie... seeing the ear.
I know the game so I already knew but in the game i think it was a hand on the floor
This part is so hilarious i love it:
4:40
"she's hurting man"
"I get it but like"
*kid gets slapped*
Both of you:
😮😮
Instantly subbed.
We were shook 😂
Great episode. I did not miss the infected. I like the focus here in the series on the characters.
"If you lost in the darkness, look for the light"
If Ellie was the light in the darkness, there is not much left of it now. For Joel, it's still enough. He regains his light through her, at the same time she loses hers through this world.
Another low point for Ellie and a turning point for her. Here the animal in Ellie came out with her overkill and the experience she had to make. Almost r*p*d and eaten. Here she experiences for the first time the worst abysses in man. I think if you've seen Ellie's past reactions to losses, there wasn't much anger involved. She swallowed Sam's and Henry's death completely. Here in her outburst really everything came out, which was not seen before.
There is no way back for her. She will not be the same anymore. The episode is also important for the future. It shows what Ellie is capable of. A dark side in her that people like David recognize.
We have already seen this in her. Her slightly morbid side when she tortured the stalker and then kills him (because of Riley). She gets very close to a dead man who has just committed suicide and then laughs as he breaks through the ground. She watches in fascination when Joel beats the soldier to death in episode 1. The constant asking for a gun. This side in her is not dominant but it is there.
Another very good change to the game was to show that Joel didn't manage to interrupt Ellie's Overkill. So this scene ran much longer than in the game. Which shows that Ellie does not come to an end so easily when she has started something based on her emotions. Her emotions/charakter don't allow that. This wasn't just an overkill, this was an over-overkill. Of course, absolutely understandable.
Btw. Ellie doesn't infect anyone unless tentacles grow out of her mouth. So she was just bluffing great.
If you pay attention and listen at the beginning, you can see that the Hannah's mother keeps making "pssst pssst" while her daughter is crying. She does this out of fear, because her daughter is louder than David's voice and as we see later, he hates interruptions in his speeches.
We learned that David and James use codes when they speak. So it is easy to imagine that they did not spoted a deer but humans. The conversation they had about how much rations they still have was certainly coded. Three human bodies were hanging there. That's what should last another week or two. Then they decided to go hunting after a "deer". The four men David sent out two episodes ago were certainly also on the hunt for people. That's why Joel was directly attacked.
Even though David says that only a few people know and he certainly believes that, I think everyone there knows what they are eating. They are all afraid of David and he is their provider after all. No one asks questions because nobody wants to hear the answer, but everyone knows. If you say something, it becomes true. For them, David is God and every time David speaks of God or Father, he means himself. Even the banner in the steakhouse "when we are in need, he shall provides" is nothing more than a reminder to people that it is David who ensures their survival and not God. In the episode about religion and belief, David is the devil in human form. The devil seduces, the devil lies, and the devil loves fire. That's why he lets the steakhouse burn. This is a methapher. We're supposed to see who David is. The shot just before Ellie attacks David shows this very well. He stands in a wall of fire.
The story David told Ellie by the campfire is certainly not true either. He said they were ambushed by raiders after they fled Pittsburgh. I'm sure they didn't escape them, they ate them and they certainly weren't raiders. He just wanted to have Ellie's trust. He wanted to be her good new pedodaddy.
David is a pedo and he always has been. Until the apocalypse, he suppressed this and he used to be a teacher. One of the children taught. His entire fungus talk was nothing more than a parallel to it, so that he does not have to name his sick nature.
The father of the girl Joel killed will always be with her. After all, mommy cooked him well. And of course, David has real penicillin for Ellie. They don't want to eat infected meat.
It bothered me at first that none of the people of the city showed up at the end. But of course, the rest of the people didn't realize what was going on. The weather is shit and cold. They will sit in their houses and scrape the remains of the girls daddy out of their teeth. 😬
Okay, enough macabre. 😁
I also think it's cool and urgently needed that the torture scene actually showed us explicitly how Joel has proceeded over the last 20 years. This was the first time it was really shown why everyone was afraid of Joel in episode 1.
This is Joel we know and he liked it. This is Joel when Ellie is not with him.
Troy Baker (Game Joel) as James was sensationell good. I didn't think that one day I would have to see Ellie kill Joel.
A nice Tess callback from Ellie in the conversation with David.
"Your (our) luck had to run out sooner or later." were Tess's words shortly before she had shown Joel her bite.
Ashley Johnson (Game Ellie) will appear in the finale in a flashback.
Thank you for sharing your detailed thoughts on the episode! And love how they are including game cast members into the show that's amazing! Can't wait to watch the finale later today!
Interesting reaction.
Joel garroted the first guy. Quiet and all he needed was to fall backwards using his weight and a cord to strangle the guy.
No. He put the knife into his corotid.
Thank you! This was Ellie's episode but Joel was amazing in it as well!
Joel rammed a knife between the first guy's neck and shoulder. He didn't strangle him. The knife he got from Ellie. He then used the same knife during interrogation.
@@TomTomson81 same technique different weapon. Joel didn't need to expend as much energy as a frontal attack would take.