Raising Sails - Part 5 - Adding Parrels to a Junk Rig
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- I think we are all born with the desire to try new things. How else would we learn to walk? And at some point school, work, colleagues, and even church and family press us into a mold that we did not select. People ask me why I choose Junk Sails, I tell them they lend themselves well to DIY construction, and single handed sailing. But maybe it's also because there are so few and they are so strange, and they fit the mold of my choosing.
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"Trickin Pickin" preformed by Doug Waterman
First time i find Sw Seeker on RUclips. You were about to pull the steelplates together in your yard to form the hull. And I think. This guy is insane. But you were so calm and relaxed about learning all new things to build a boat. And now you have this beautiful ship. I have followed Seeker on RUclips since then. All cred to you and all the people that helped create this piece of art! Best wishes to all of you!
Seriously, I thought the same thing. Nobody builds a 75 foot, origami, junk rigged sailboat in Tulsa.
Nobody but Doug.
The first time I came across this guy he was just starting to weld the steel of the hull and I had to look up a map to confirm that Tulsa was where I thought it was! Funny enough I thought he might do it and we might both live long enough to see it get to the ocean, well for the moment we are both still alive and Doug is getting closer to the ocean every day! Chance a fart after a dose of salts but a great engineer the same Doug the more I watched his progress the more I respected him and his ability.
I've been watching him that long also, I love it
Same
Doug's montra:
We the willing, led by the unknowing, acomplish the impossible for the very grateful. we've done so much with so little for so long, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.😂
Man she is a beauty! Cannot wait to see her underway under Full Sail.
Just had to stop and take a moment and reflect a bit. I remember finding your channels years and years ago. To see this boat in the water and sails going up is just so cool! Well done, looking forward to what's to come.
Been here for the whole ride and Doug doesn't know it yet but I hope to bring my Chef skills and flexible "can do" attitude along and become a part of the Seeker once my daughter goes off to college... 🙏
You look incredibly happy. Lovely to see.
I know I keep saying it but I can’t help it. I just love the sails. They are the perfect fit for this boat.
It’s just beautiful. I can’t picture it any other way.
Best
Tim
I've had that exact vacuum for 3 years now. Use it everyday to get all the goat poo. Then empty it in the compost bin. Then grow some decent veggies, :) The filter is washable. Sails are looking great.
In this ever present world of s**t, doom & gloom, it’s so awesome (and needed) to get a little temporary relief in the form of hope & happiness in your project & community of incredible people!
At the end of the day we all need something to refresh & renew our spirits! I truly believe that channels like yours (and crew) & Sampson boat Co. (Leo & crew) & Sailing Zatara (and crew), there’s so many others but I think y’all get the point. Thank you Doug, you give us all a little respite from the world collapsing around us & give some joy & inspiration to carry on another day! 👍🙂
Acorn to Arabella!
As soon as you mentioned using golf-balls for bearings, I knew what was coming! they're fun sometimes (the old ones were worse!). You may find that the hard shell bites into your ropes and frays them over time, it's a pretty hard plastic. while a length of delrin or hdpe round bar might be a little more expensive, it'll give you a more reliable result.
I agree... I grew up on schooners... Wooden balls soaked in linseed oil is what we did .. we used a hard wood...
@@donnakawana The RUclips channel Salt and Tar the builders made their own wooden balls. BTW it's a lot like Doug's as they have done virtually the whole build. Just the Wife and Hudand team, check it out.
I love the Golf Ball Trick, will take note of that one. The only thing we ever did with used/found Golf balls, was to hit them with a baseball bat towards the nearby Grain Silo, and watch the 2 guys come out to see what just happened, lol...... Park and Rec employees with a little time on their hands :)
Keep the videos coming Doug the more you get done the more I'm getting excited from the other side of the world 👍 horseshoe bay on the southern end of Australia been watching you build this from the first day
i remember that ratcheting sound. reminds me of my parent's pop up camper. They always let me crank it up. I now understand why.
We had one of those too.
I love this channel, I always learn something whether I want to or not.
Glad to hear it!
To eliminate most of the friction of the rope on the mast, get appropriately sized some Sch 40 PVC sprinkler pipe and cut it into 1" sections and run the rope thru them and position them where the the rope will run up the mast.
I have some ABS to try. I think it will do better with the UV.
Electrical PVC conduit should work as well and is UV stabilized. ABS is harder to find in smaller diameters.
In the UK there is black plastic pipe that is used for mains water buried under ground.. there's also blue .. and yellow for mains gas..
All very wear resistant..
Very hot water and a pipe roller to make into rings..
Alternatively make rope quoits.. that's what they use on square rigs..
@@SVSeeker This is what I use, yea the PVC breaks but there is always more PVC, We did make fancy ones out of lignum vitae for the main but the PVC works great and is less money and less time. I use well oversized pipe. I am sure you will find what works.... you always do.
Happy sailing
The grey conduit for electric is UV resistant.
Put the the lines trough the wooden blocks so the rope loops go trough each other.That way if the block fails they will still be connected.They won't fail because the timber will be under compression not tension
That would cause the block to rotate and a broken sheet is not a big deal.
Working out the length and placement of the parels is quite a process. Every junk sail needs to be tailored to each boat uniquely. I am just finishing rigging a new JS on my 16' Michalak Blobster and it has been quite a process even for my small boat.
Fun fact about the rubber bands in golf balls. They are acutally the more expensive kind as when you hit them they impart more back spin to the ball in flight (they are softer and deform more) which allows you to stop it quicker when it hits the green. All the top pros use those kind of balls. The solid core balls spin much less but fly much farther as more energy from the swing is converted to kinetic energy.
Pros havent used rubber band golf balls since the 90's. In fact I dont think theyve been in production at all for at least 20 years. Crazy he found a ball that old.
@@jhreels874 Ha! 20 years ago was about the last time I played golf. Good ole Titlest Balata balls. Nick Faldo was my idol back then and that what he used. ⛳️
@@jhreels874 I feel like those were the old proV1 before they moved to the better core. Not sure if they were worth much though.
@@dylanzrim3635 yeah I've seen some crazy videos Cutting old balls open.
Dough, you are getting giddy as you get closer to sailing the boat. God Bless...
Rooting for you Doug, and am confident that you’ll become a master sailor soon.
Or just hard woden balls... You can buy them made... This vessel is beautiful just stunningly beautiful... An can't wait to see her sailing beautifully... Can not wait to see azure blue water below her hull.... Excited for future journey!!! Tractor seat is beautiful!!! ✌🏼💗😊❣️
Finally sir.. cool waters and that perfect wind ..hopefully by next week.. cheers to your resilience sir!
I love watching these so much man. Thanks for taking us along the ride!
Sailed on an old wooden ( leaky) junk off Hong Kong in my youth and even by my inexperienced standards she was very tender in port but once she got wind in her sails she leaned to and slipped along nicely and surprisingly solidly very little rolling even in a rough passage but then again she always had a bilge of water to keep her weight up no matter how the poor little lister engine pumped, but that engine is a whole new story!
Golf balls, great idea. I would bet that the local boat shop would sell something like that for three times the price complete with fancy packeging to boot. Good idea Doug and crew....
I saw them on someone else’s boat. Wood seems to work well too.
6:52 I love what you did with your nails Doug. 💅
Why thank you.
We built a gaff rigged ketch. We found parrel beads worked well, made ours out of hard wood.
There's a lot of old sailing things that still work. Lizards are another.
Love from France.
I remember cutting open golf balls when I was kid just to see the rubber bands expand and go all over the place. Do they still have liquid centers on the ball with the rubber bands like they did 60 years ago? Have a good week Doug and Seeker crew.
I did not find any with liquid centers. And fortunately only six of so were bands.
Haha! I remember doing that too!! Brilliant fun 😂
@@richwaight Sad they don't make them anymore. It was lots of fun throwing those in the air and letting them unwind.
Back in school days one of the kids drilled through a few balls for a project. He got unlucky enough to hit a liquid filled one once the bit got hot, and it sprayed hot liquid all over everyone nearby 😂
Well, I had to subscribe it, I was reading Annie Hill's book, except I didn't have photos to show, they were in my brain.
They need to find the negative people innthe world and put them around this guy, he flows optimism, hes got solutions for everything
Nooooooo. : ) My optimism comes from not allowing negative people to stay around any longer that absolutely necessary. Being optimistic around negative people might be a super human.
Beautiful work of art!
Thank you! Cheers!
Doug, I've been building my boat in much the same way. I did use a hull form plan loosely and extrapolated it a lot to a much larger size. Having been a project manager in a shipyard helps some....
Really like the nail polish 💅
Each batten should have about a fathom of line keeping it close to the mast, tight, but not so tight that you can't get your hand between mast and line. Then your yard hauling parrel is only hauled in once the sail is raised. The yard hauling parrel automatically slacks off when you let go the halyard. Give it a try, the junk rig is wonderfully easy to handle and to reef. Good luck!
I think the tension on the parrels is relative to the size of the sail and the ratio of how far aft it is set behind the mast. You'd not want you hand in there. I don't have a yard hauling parrel yet but I expect I'll add one.
@@SVSeeker My mistake, you are doing parrels. My eye picked out that the lines that will hold the batten close to the mast are not rigged yet. I totally admire your hands on dedication.
regardless - the winch will take ages to hoist any sail, you might want to pull it up manually so far as you can and then winch it up, a compromise is to put a garden hose over the rag band, there where you want the golf balls and by the way and maybe buy a hydraulic winch that you just use for hoisting! :) and one last thing. NEVER hoist a sail with the clutch on, you will ruin the mantel of the rope over a short period of time.
Yeah it wud be nice to see them actually talk to someone who does rigging... My friend was a rigger. He worked for the Dominos sail boat. The owner was christening the vessel but because his rich senseless self refused to listen to the Rigger(best in the biz at that time)who said don't rush me... His wife an young lil boys... Watched their father die falling to his death as the mast gave way as he rushed him thru the inspection... Cuz rich ppl with money don't care about you, they don't respect your years of experience an knowledge !! They think with money got a heart. To them everyone has a price.... But no everyone doesn't have a price.....
Sorry it's the 33rd anniversary of his death!!
Sailing is everything an this vessel is everything... I love the tractor chair up there... Isn't this vessel amazing....
I've been using that little yellow vacuum for about a year now, i kind of laughed it off when the shop first bought it but that thing has ended up being handy. its in the back seat of my car right now lol
I have two others for bigger jobs but it's great for working in the bilge.
A motto I ran across recently. We do it right because we do it twice.
She is going to be magnificent under full sail!
As a child I grew up down the street from the facility that made and tested Titleist golf balls. At night we would hunt the property down range from the test facility. We would cut the outer casings off of the balls we would find and run the elastic band around telephone poles across the road resulting in a lot of laughter for obvious reasons. Inside the balls wrapped in elastic there was a liquid filled inner ball and that was nice to chuck at your friend's. Today I imagine we would be in a bunch of trouble for being kids. Another golf story only I don't play golf. The sails look great its like the pictures are coming to life.
The golf balls with rubber bands usually have a liquid filled sac inside them, if you cut open one of those balls, the sack feels weird
I would have thought something like HDPE rollers with chamfered holes would be better, the shell of the golg balls may cut the rope.
a router 'round over bit' may help
We'll see.
This is the 2nd time I friend your videos.
@6:45 My Grandpa always used to say "Perfection is the enemy of good".
You learn more when you fail but it’s nice to win 😉
When do you expect first sea trials under sail in seeker? Or well when will you be making your first proper journey at least - put it that way?
You talking a matter of weeks till you hit the river then oceans or what’s the plan??
Can’t wait and have followed you since the start!
Tuesday
u a real one
That hose clamp is putting Mico tares on the line
That hose clamp is temporary.
I wouldn't worry about tenderness yet, yachts generally are a bit rocky but when the sails load up they fall over quickly to their favourite degrees of lean and stay there it takes allot to get to the point where its worrisome. You may however dread the direct perfect downwind runs and crave a few degrees off the stern breeze.
The tow boats with the hydraulic wheelhouse are designed to lower the whole top, wheelhouse, antennas, searchlights, all of it to go under bridges like those in Chicago.
8:07 some blocks in dire need of lubrication .... there are Your percentages of lost power making themselves audible.
First I saw You "work on Seeker" was when You explained how sand between the flat lying plates (still not yet cut for Origami pulling) made moving those on one another so much easier. What a bunch of human creation You gathered into that three masted Junk which SV Seeker is today! You, Sir, are an inspiring phenomenon. Just saying.
Oh, and thank You for sharing with the bilge rats, of course.
They can just whine all they want. They’re only temporary blocks and they’re not intended for what we’re using them for. Like a millennial on their first day at hard work.
@@SVSeeker TBH, I thought so (not intended for that kinda use) but didn't want to interfere with Your material decision - these decisions make for very diverting content by times, and I still indulge in some of Your "we'll try it until running out of wrong ways to do it" videos. Cheers!
The most precisely drilled golf balls on the seven seas.
she's a beaut Clark👍
Love the video
Thank you.
Friction is the enemy it will wear out lines and sails . The time you're put into getting everything running freely will ensure your rigging holds up in the long run .
Used to unwind the old golf balls as a kid, if you grabbed an end it could unravel and bounce around. Simpler times, did get a nasty surprise one time the core was liquid covered in rubber under pressure, damn thing went off like a little bomb blue crap everywhere
Awesome work.. Doug brought a whole new meaning to hole-in-1 with those golf balls...
When I was in my youth I tried to cut a golfball open to find out what inside. I found out they were a bundle of rubberband. Then the knife slipped and I cut my hand badly. But I got to know what was inside. Seems like you should go for the Galloway balls in this case.
You should contact Selden Mast in Charleston and ask them to sponsor you with the big antifriction rings. Really good stuff for your sail handling.
Job looking really good!
I did that with a coconut as a kid. : ) And I have a diver friend that has hundreds of balls.
Looking good! Have you considered that the wood blocks might break the solar panels by accident, especially whn the sails flogging. Maybe a splice with a plastic eye/ thimble would be softer? .
Yes, but those are not that heavy and I think I can use bungy cord to keep them off.
Worked with 'osage orange ' wood cut down in the backyard when I was younger. Very dense, brittle wood. Also quite pretty for knife handle. We never called it by that name though
It was a horse apple tree for me. We had they in the woods next to my childhood home.
Congratulations absolutely beautiful.
Thank you so much!
Look up the Alpine Bowline. Ashley's Book on Knots describes the bowline as "loose in its guts". He is correct. I can tie many variations of the bowline but I do believe the alpine bowline is probably as good as you are going to get. It is a small procedure.
Can't wait to see her under full sail
Doug, folks along the river call towboats built like that "Shotgun pilot houses"
I prefer Jack Off Boats. ...or maybe it was Jack Up Boats.
Ooooh. How about golf balls with UHMW sleeves for the lines to ride in that are radius-ed at the edges? All nice and smooth, so they don't wear into the sheathe of the rope over time.
Hi Doug
I'll add I'm a little concerned with your double sheets for the mainsail.
Tacking could be interesting if you have to release one side and tighten the other where as if you use the same sheet for either tack you dont have to do anything when you tack.... time will tell I guess. .....enjoy Warren
Once it's adjusted I should not have to change the sheets at all. You just make the turn.
One of the big advantages of junk rig is that it is self-tacking, ie when you tack you just move the tiller the other side and don't have to touch a sheet.
Osage orange, one of the preferred woods for a homemade bow,. (as in bow and arrow)
dig it man
They use a system like what your talking about with the golf balls on flag poles.
Looking good with sail(s) raised. I am getting caught up on the build videos and one in my "To Watch" List is the cutting of the sails. Nice that on a lot of the videos I can time travel to see the finished product before I watch the creation. Thanks for sharing the journey so far. I've said it before but I find the whole thing very inspirational.
You want rings going up the poles. make them from HDPE STARBOARD, use the cnc machine. Its also self lubing. Golf balls will work but it would be wise then to use stainless wire in the golf balls and a pully going to your rope..
I think you mean stainless wire cable. I've never seen that done but it should last longer.
Yes I suggest rollers for the lines that go around the mast, also leave slack, fore and aft shifting does not impact sailing too much; well that is my view. For the Yufrows (heck I can barely pronounce it, spelling forget it) I suggest you plan to make the lines pass through them easily as this makes reefing less work and things then tend to balance themselves out. A good boiling in linseed makes for a happy Yufrow. I sail a Junk Rigged Colvin schooner.
God Bless
You must have a lot more sail forward of the mast, because if I slake the parrels it will greatly shift the sail forward. And if the yufrow acts more like a set of sheave then wouldn't the sail distort when reefed? What keeps the lowest batten above the pack from taking all the slack?
@@isickofit Ja, maar juffvrou in Nederlands :)
Euphroe. I'm an old junk rig hand, but with a Hasler designed rig. I sailed across the Pacific via the scenic route on Batwing of Seattle. Hasler's sheets are a block and tackle.
"You're doing more work using a pulley" Doug, if i was a little less confident in myself I'd be having a crisis right now because you have an incredible mind. However I am not going to let this one slide. You may be confusing a pulley for a block. Like on old ships. Please don't be that stupid. Pulleys are the next best thing to hydrolics
That consolidated sheet rig is really cool--looking forward to the first sail! And first bit of heel is a pretty nice milestone...
So my question is, How do you adjust the "Tender"? Cause she looks a might Tenderly to me. Also your design procedures are referred to as "As Built Engineering". And since you are under budget and on schedule....And she floats.... You get my Stamp of Approval. Goodenuff, takit. ;-)
We can reduce weight above the Center of Gravity to lower it. We can add more weight below to lower it, or we can ignore anything to stays south of 30 degrees under sail is fine by me. Others are not happy until they are one a dynamically stabilized cruise ship.
Doug have you done the math on whether it would have been cheaper to buy a project boat or build your own?
You don't need to do much math. You can buy cheaper if you pick up a project boat. That is not the reason I built from scratch.
What sort of night lighting have you set up?
Underwater lightning?
I got goggles and a flashlight. : )
use painters tape where you cut the rope so it wont spread, then burn the end to keep it that way.
Then sew the ends with waxed twine.
Skate board wheels up the pole mounted on a ring ?
Salt and Tar on youtube have a good setup for the mast rollers.
Yep, Garrett is a perfectionist when it comes to his rigging...,,loves the old school way of doing things.....love the channel!!
That's my Hand Carved boat and trailer I made few years ago when crafts was booming made few more log cabin last one when covid hit now can't buy wood to make them
The Osage orange in my local area doesn't float and has a more vivid color. I wonder if there are a bunch of kinds or if it just varies allot from tree to tree
Doug what are those side step looking pieces on the hull? I don’t remember seeing those before m.
Maybe the freeing ports is what you're seeing? They drain water off the deck.
skate board wheels could also work for the rope going up an down the mast .
Yup. Maybe
Garden hose sleeve might slide 🤔 along the mast
Might at that
Is that roar/hum sound in the background the powerplant?
Yes it is. The hotter it is the louder it gets.
where are you currently located? I am in north central Arkansas, want to catch you as you go through Arkansas.
Muskogee
Tractor seat😆
Ataboy on the golf balls, bet they outlast hardwood dowels cut and drilled.
We shall see.
hello it looks really nice saludos
If you aren’t failing you aren’t learning. Edison something to this effect.
How has the torque converter direct drive WWF worked out. Have you contacted brupeg
So far it’s doing fine.
F A I L means First Attemp In Learning
Headed for the Applegate Marina?
Yes, but outside the Marina. That one is a bit small for us.
so whats the safety mechanism for you so it doesnt sink if it heels strongy ? whyt if you roll it
are the compartments air and water tight enough that she will self rightwen with the kiel ballast before she takes on a lot if water?
also do you have clutches that release sail tention after some pull strenght?
Ha! : ) There is a lot of physics and common sense that needs to be ignored before you can rationally entertain that possibility. That's the kind of fear that keeps you on the couch.
bravo pierrot de paris f
Sail needs a counter balance ? , Maybe weoght down the mast ? I do not know much about sails
Kinda like a window weight
Most Junk sails have a portion of the sail that extends forward of the mast. It acts like a counterbalance to the wind.
If you don’t create some sort of rolling mechanism on the mast than you will have to replace that line more than you want to
Yup. That what the balls are for.
The VSA was tender too! Be wary!
We'll be carful not to stack 50 bronze cannon on deck.
Instead of golf balls could you use Small pieces of PVC pipe?
We’re going to test some ABS. It should take the UV a little better than PVC.
Where are you learning how to build and handle a Junk's sails? They seem so entangled with seemingly diverse purposes...
On my boat. : )