You made my day today Michael!! I'm a die-hard Metallica fan and this album was one of my first CD purchases as a teen. Now I also collect vinyl so when I heard Bob Ludwig mastered it, it was an instant no-brainer. Which you just confirmed! So stoked.
I’m glad to see you reviewing some metal! I have the Blackened reissue from a few years ago and it sounds great. I’ve heard nothing but great things about this remaster. Great video as always
I’m usually against 90s remasters because I don’t like the sound changing, but after comparing the 90s version to the newly remastered version I’m shocked to say the newer version is improved immensely. It sounds so crisp and clear. I love it.
I got all the boxes from the beginning, they keep getting better and the black was no exception. Great work with music and collectibles. Their series of podcasts about the album that have been released weekly and a very necessary and great complement
The gem in this one for me is the year and a half out takes dvd. My only gripes are: I wish a dvd of the famous moscow show was included, and I wish there were pin ups of the pus head art work (sad but true, burning flower, executioner, don't tread on me) instead of teh magazine covers. I am guessing Binge and purge is next, and I would not be surprised if load and reload are in the same box set together.
I own an orginal UK pressing since 1991 and it sounds amazing and also has great separation of the instruments. By the way, the was not originally isssue as a gatefold, so I guess they wanted to faithfully reproduce it in this boxset.
That is a whole lot of Metallica!! I bet if someone's a die-hard fan this is going to be absolutely amazing for them, but for me I just stick with the single album. Thank you so much for showing us and breaking it down great presentation 🎸⚡
These remaster box sets are great. Its like here is the album...and EVERYTHING about it. Its like each boxset is a yearbook for every era of Metallica.
I was not thinking of getting the deluxe box set, but now I'm thinking about it. Maybe I'll keep the 2 LPs. In any case, this release is a proof that they can make very famous albums in the right way (in terms of sound quality).
The boxes are expansive but what you get as Metallica fan is amazing and let's you really dig into the making process and following tour. I only missed the Master box which is now too expansive bt love these boxes.
I don’t have any metal record in my collection. But i preordered this one. Because i like it so much as a young boy. I had a cassette and listened it nonstop. Sound is very good. No need to search for an original in my opinion. 1991 was an incredible year. So much unbelievably good albums. This could be a long video. Just talking about 1991.
Any comparison between earlier pressings? I have the 2015 and had decided not to replace it since Chris Bellman cut the lacquers for both… until I watched your review. Now I’m kind of salivating.
A great review: lots of stuff in that boxed set, looks like buyers will get their money's worth! I have the 45-RPM version of the Black Album. Have you heard that version,. Michael? I'd be curious to know how it compares with the version in this set.
Looks like a bad azz set. I'll likely get it as a birthday present next month. The band chose the number 2 pressing plant in the world to press this fabulous remaster. Micheal does the remastered record have sybilance on Nothing Else Matters i know all previous pressings on vinyl have that little issue. I grew up listening to this album so it's very special for me. Great video!
I have the black marble wal mart exclusive version which is just a re pressing of the Bellman cut as far as I know. Isn’t the version in this box set the same Bellman one?
Interested Review, thanks! Do you own the Boxsets of the first four Metallica records? Thinking about to get them,but i heard the Sound of the Vinyl isn't that great....
In deinem Review, gehst du vorrangig auf die Schallplatten ein, die wären für mich auch der Hauptgrund diese Box zu kaufen. Doch nun frage ich mich ob ich stattdessen nicht lieber zu dem normalen Album greifen sollte in der remastered Version. Konntest du denn vom Sound einen Unterschied zu der Original Version feststellen, sprich der Erstpressung feststellen? Ist denn das andere Zeug sprich die DVDs und die CD ist lohnenswert? Oder ist es eher nur schmuckloses Beiwerk?
@@Michael45RPM Habe ich mir fast schon gedacht denn wenn man sich deine Mediathek anschaut, dann ist Metal eher nicht ganz so dein Musikgeschmack. Trotzdem danke für deine Antwort.
the big question is: 2015 and 2021 both mastered and cut for vinyl by Chris Bellman at BG Mastering and pressed at Pallas. Is this the same mastering and cut as 2015 version? Deadwax is a bit different, but not much. Can be the same stampers but they changed the deadwax a bit. Does anyone know more or has a decent set up to compare. thx
The 2021 cut is completely different from the 2015 both cut by CB but much different to my ear. The 2015 is cut louder and has more bass slam and feel at least through my Klipsch fortes.
I didn’t have any plans to get this even though I like the album week enough, until I saw it was cut by Bob Ludwig. Became a no-brained after that. Nice review.
That is NOT cut bei BL. he did the digital version and this is cut bei Chris Bellman, same as the 2015 Edition. Fist Press ist STERLING SOUND Cut and the 1st press does sound amazing.
What are those outer sleeves for gatefolds that you are using? Do you clean every new record before first time listening to it? Sorry if this has been discussed already. Have not seen all your videos.
Great channel keep the posts coming. I have been following your storage ideas for vinyl. When you open a box set and cover the vinyls in storage plastic solutions do you keep the vinyls back in the box for shelf storage? or keep them outside to make accessing them easier? BTW also if you don't mind me asking do you by analogue production box sets direct from acoustic sounds? I love these but hard to get hold of . Thanks
Sorry, I commented before I played the video (bad habit)! I deleted that one! Fantastic release by metallica! Most metallica and heavy metal fans don't like it, but I love it!
Good to know that this turned out well. I remember feeling similar regarding the U2 Box set. I thought here's one of the biggest bands in the world and how do they put out something so flat?
I don't like metal either, but I do like Metallica and the black album is a masterpiece. I was just going to stick to my old cd but now you made me doubt: should I buy the vinyl?
I think there's quite a bit of noise on the vinyl remaster when you listen closely. It's not audiophile, or Tone Poet etc. quality. Although the album was recorded analogue, this seems to be a digital remaster, especially for vinyl, with all the limitations when you do that. I don't get why you would do that when it was recorded in analogue.
52.000 mag nicht viel klingen aber ist mehr als doppelt so viel wie es von der Master Of Puppets Box (25.000) gibt. Von den anderen 3 Boxen gab es 30.000 Exemplare und bis auf die Puppets Box kann sie immer noch alle bekommen.
Great presentation but definitely a pass -don’t need 10 plus live gigs! Too many better sets out in the market ! Yes this will sell out I won’t be picking it up!
@@Michael45RPM Thanks! But when I look at Discogs it says the normal edition from 2021 is mastered by Chris Bellman and has CB in the deadwax and no RL from Bob Ludwig?
@@Michael45RPM Ok. Thanks! Then I'm just getting the normal vinyl. Would be nice to know what people consider the best sounding pressing of this album. An original or one of the reissues.
I know that now you are going to secretly obtain a gorgeous CD (Multi disc - CD, SACD, DVD-A & Blu-ray capable?) player. Do not be ashamed - embrace the ones and zeros! LOL.
Truth is that EU and US pressing bar codes are different, so there are probably 2 pressings of the same cut. Which one did you review Michael? I presume the German one, thanks!!!
So Michael - Have you compared it to an OG Vertigo copy? It's interesting to hear the opinion of another non metal guy like myself. It was always a 2LP, so the running length was never a problem for the low end but the records were pretty thin and vinyl was on the way out in those days. I'm spinning mine now for what must be the first time in 25 years. Larger than life drums are certainly there by design! I'd really like to know if the remaster is an upgrade on what was already a very artificially big sounding album.
Thanks Michael. I read the following on Steve Hoffman’s forum: “[TBA] was an analog recording mixed through an analog console. The only thing digital was the two track recorder... and I think they also mixed this to analog tape but obviously preferred the sound of the digital tape.” I have no idea if this is true or not, but I’d also be surprised if an 80s band recorded by Bob Rock would record only in digital. Would be cool to hear the analogue tapes if they, in fact, exist. I think the issue is maybe none of the Metallica guys are really vinyl fans. Supposedly Tool are, by contrast, and so they’re supposedly working on a AAA release of their catalog. Here’s to hoping.
Michael it’s a tempting set. I have just the remastered LP and I ordered the Blacklist CD. I would end up being completely burned out on Metallica if I even went halfway through all that. A discography maybe. One album of that much submersion would drown most of us. Looks cool just too much. Do you intend to listen to and view all the media? You may get more grey by the time you do! Ha! Thx. I appreciate your videos. Peace.
Did you say.....wait......I HAD to have miss-heard.......nope........$52.....THOUSAND? Who in the F&%@ has.......wait.......5000 albums behind collector at $25 to $2000 a pop.........never mind..........
I've got this box and must say DVDs are big disappointed (the past ones were also bad). I wonder why they decided to put so many shows in poor quality instead of one in good quality.
I have to admit, I'm not a fan of metal rock. For me, such monster box sets are only for the hardcore fans. A lot of material doesn't mean a lot of quality, but often the opposite.
I'm sorry man, 52.000 copies worldwide is laughable, especially considering the popularity of this album. Their most 'accessible release should have been made more easily available, if that means compromising on the packaging to do so they could have. Content wise they could have replaced all dvd content with a bluray disc and leave out the interview discs (for example)
meiner meinung nach das überbewerteste "Metal" album überhaupt. einige sehr gute songs, das muss ich zugeben, aber auchn haufen "füllmaterial" .... die 3 besten Metallica alben sind die 3 mit Cliff Burton.
You made my day today Michael!! I'm a die-hard Metallica fan and this album was one of my first CD purchases as a teen. Now I also collect vinyl so when I heard Bob Ludwig mastered it, it was an instant no-brainer. Which you just confirmed! So stoked.
I’m glad to see you reviewing some metal! I have the Blackened reissue from a few years ago and it sounds great. I’ve heard nothing but great things about this remaster. Great video as always
I’m usually against 90s remasters because I don’t like the sound changing, but after comparing the 90s version to the newly remastered version I’m shocked to say the newer version is improved immensely. It sounds so crisp and clear. I love it.
I've never owned a Metallica album before, but I just ordered the standard 2 album reissue based on your reviews.
You won't be disappointed. It's a fantastic album from start to finish....
I got all the boxes from the beginning, they keep getting better and the black was no exception. Great work with music and collectibles. Their series of podcasts about the album that have been released weekly and a very necessary and great complement
The gem in this one for me is the year and a half out takes dvd. My only gripes are: I wish a dvd of the famous moscow show was included, and I wish there were pin ups of the pus head art work (sad but true, burning flower, executioner, don't tread on me) instead of teh magazine covers. I am guessing Binge and purge is next, and I would not be surprised if load and reload are in the same box set together.
I own an orginal UK pressing since 1991 and it sounds amazing and also has great separation of the instruments.
By the way, the was not originally isssue as a gatefold, so I guess they wanted to faithfully reproduce it in this boxset.
That is a whole lot of Metallica!! I bet if someone's a die-hard fan this is going to be absolutely amazing for them, but for me I just stick with the single album. Thank you so much for showing us and breaking it down great presentation 🎸⚡
These remaster box sets are great. Its like here is the album...and EVERYTHING about it. Its like each boxset is a yearbook for every era of Metallica.
I was not thinking of getting the deluxe box set, but now I'm thinking about it. Maybe I'll keep the 2 LPs. In any case, this release is a proof that they can make very famous albums in the right way (in terms of sound quality).
Looks like a killer set. Thank you for sharing.
The boxes are expansive but what you get as Metallica fan is amazing and let's you really dig into the making process and following tour. I only missed the Master box which is now too expansive bt love these boxes.
ok got the video to work and as usual another Great Video
I think this is the first time I have seen metal on your channel. Really nice to see! Do you listen to it, or is for collecting only?
I don’t have any metal record in my collection. But i preordered this one. Because i like it so much as a young boy. I had a cassette and listened it nonstop. Sound is very good. No need to search for an original in my opinion.
1991 was an incredible year. So much unbelievably good albums. This could be a long video. Just talking about 1991.
Meant that I never heard this lp but because of you I will. Great review.
Loved the video, Micheal. I've never owned this in any format, but I may just dip my toe in for the 2LP set.
That is a lot of Metallica. My Wal Mart exclusive sounds great.
FYI. There was an ad for a "scrotom trimmer" before your video started. I guess RUclips doesn't know I'm Old School.
Great video! I’m not much of a heavy metal fan, but this is my favourite Metallica album. Do you own any other Metallica albums?
Not do far but that May change
Any comparison between earlier pressings? I have the 2015 and had decided not to replace it since Chris Bellman cut the lacquers for both… until I watched your review. Now I’m kind of salivating.
I have no other copies to compare sorry
Wow what a great review. Ive heard this album but Im going to listen to it now. That's what's great about you.
Blown away by this remaster, didnt know it was possible to improve from perfection by they did it! Amazing
A great review: lots of stuff in that boxed set, looks like buyers will get their money's worth!
I have the 45-RPM version of the Black Album. Have you heard that version,. Michael? I'd be curious to know how it compares with the version in this set.
Looks like a bad azz set. I'll likely get it as a birthday present next month.
The band chose the number 2 pressing plant in the world to press this fabulous remaster. Micheal does the remastered record have sybilance on Nothing Else Matters i know all previous pressings on vinyl have that little issue. I grew up listening to this album so it's very special for me. Great video!
I have the black marble wal mart exclusive version which is just a re pressing of the Bellman cut as far as I know. Isn’t the version in this box set the same Bellman one?
Also.....they're available from the band directly at their web store.
Interested Review, thanks!
Do you own the Boxsets of the first four Metallica records?
Thinking about to get them,but i heard the Sound of the Vinyl isn't that great....
I just got the album by itself...perfectly flat pressings and sounds better than before...
In deinem Review, gehst du vorrangig auf die Schallplatten ein, die wären für mich auch der Hauptgrund diese Box zu kaufen.
Doch nun frage ich mich ob ich stattdessen nicht lieber zu dem normalen Album greifen sollte in der remastered Version.
Konntest du denn vom Sound einen Unterschied zu der Original Version feststellen, sprich der Erstpressung feststellen?
Ist denn das andere Zeug sprich die DVDs und die CD ist lohnenswert? Oder ist es eher nur schmuckloses Beiwerk?
I habe die OP nicht gehört kann dazu leider nichts sagen
@@Michael45RPM Habe ich mir fast schon gedacht denn wenn man sich deine Mediathek anschaut, dann ist Metal eher nicht ganz so dein Musikgeschmack.
Trotzdem danke für deine Antwort.
the big question is: 2015 and 2021 both mastered and cut for vinyl by Chris Bellman at BG Mastering and pressed at Pallas. Is this the same mastering and cut as 2015 version? Deadwax is a bit different, but not much. Can be the same stampers but they changed the deadwax a bit. Does anyone know more or has a decent set up to compare. thx
The 2021 cut is completely different from the 2015 both cut by CB but much different to my ear. The 2015 is cut louder and has more bass slam and feel at least through my Klipsch fortes.
New camera looks fantastic.
After hearing 8:38 i just had to hit the 'BUY NOW' button! Played this album to death 1st year at Uni.
I didn’t have any plans to get this even though I like the album week enough, until I saw it was cut by Bob Ludwig. Became a no-brained after that. Nice review.
That is NOT cut bei BL. he did the digital version and this is cut bei Chris Bellman, same as the 2015 Edition. Fist Press ist STERLING SOUND Cut and the 1st press does sound amazing.
What are those outer sleeves for gatefolds that you are using? Do you clean every new record before first time listening to it? Sorry if this has been discussed already. Have not seen all your videos.
those are from the Vinyl storage solutions
Thank you for sharing this with us. I hope the main album remaster is available as a standalone. Love the new camera BTW !!
It is, so you don’t need to spend $$$ on the deluxe if you don’t need all the live concerts & demos & just want the remastered album
Damn you Michael, I was so certain that I’m not getting this. Now I want it 😬
LOL
Great channel keep the posts coming. I have been following your storage ideas for vinyl. When you open a box set and cover the vinyls in storage plastic solutions do you keep the vinyls back in the box for shelf storage? or keep them outside to make accessing them easier?
BTW also if you don't mind me asking do you by analogue production box sets direct from acoustic sounds? I love these but hard to get hold of . Thanks
i keep them next to the box
It looks so nice I like it
Sorry, I commented before I played the video (bad habit)! I deleted that one! Fantastic release by metallica! Most metallica and heavy metal fans don't like it, but I love it!
That LP has never been a "gatefold", but yes it would have been nice!
Good to know that this turned out well. I remember feeling similar regarding the U2 Box set. I thought here's one of the biggest bands in the world and how do they put out something so flat?
Hello, what do you use to protect your box sets? i.e. jacket covers..
I dont protect the outer Box so far
Great review Michael, how do you accommodate this type of double albums (non gatefold )to the vinyl storage solutions sleeves ?
imagine if every artist did this with their most famous album
I don't like metal either, but I do like Metallica and the black album is a masterpiece. I was just going to stick to my old cd but now you made me doubt: should I buy the vinyl?
YES
That is a huge boxset! Nice review.
I think there's quite a bit of noise on the vinyl remaster when you listen closely. It's not audiophile, or Tone Poet etc. quality. Although the album was recorded analogue, this seems to be a digital remaster, especially for vinyl, with all the limitations when you do that. I don't get why you would do that when it was recorded in analogue.
52.000 mag nicht viel klingen aber ist mehr als doppelt so viel wie es von der Master Of Puppets Box (25.000) gibt. Von den anderen 3 Boxen gab es 30.000 Exemplare und bis auf die Puppets Box kann sie immer noch alle bekommen.
Great presentation but definitely a pass -don’t need 10 plus live gigs! Too many better sets out in the market ! Yes this will sell out I won’t be picking it up!
I thought that the Black Album was an analogue recording, as the documentary shows them editing tape for the drum parts..
Is it also just available on vinyl or do you need to get the Deluxe Box?
You can get the Album also
@@Michael45RPM Thanks! But when I look at Discogs it says the normal edition from 2021 is mastered by Chris Bellman and has CB in the deadwax and no RL from Bob Ludwig?
I mixd that up sorry the remaster is from Bellman my bad sorry again
@@Michael45RPM Ok. Thanks! Then I'm just getting the normal vinyl. Would be nice to know what people consider the best sounding pressing of this album. An original or one of the reissues.
Soooo….is this is a new cut or using the same cut done previously by Chris Bellman?
Great album. Preordered it as well. Strangely, EU gets it before US market.
maybe because it is pressed here in Germany?
Maybe? It says “release date on: 9/24/2021” on Rhino website.
Yup I pre-ordered mine early this summer and hasn't arrived.
Update. Arrived today.
I know that now you are going to secretly obtain a gorgeous CD (Multi disc - CD, SACD, DVD-A & Blu-ray capable?) player. Do not be ashamed - embrace the ones and zeros! LOL.
Maybe I’ll just pick up the vinyl
Thanks Michael..Please can you take a look at Joep Beving beautiful trilogy set.. something to get your Einstein gear singing!!!
This Set is on the way hope to get it soon. I will make a Video About it
What version is better, EU or US??
I think thee is only one Version David
@@Michael45RPM I said it because at Discogs appears two versions, EU and US for the only 2 vinyl set. Thanks.
@@AbrilClapton will be same cut
Truth is that EU and US pressing bar codes are different, so there are probably 2 pressings of the same cut. Which one did you review Michael? I presume the German one, thanks!!!
So Michael - Have you compared it to an OG Vertigo copy? It's interesting to hear the opinion of another non metal guy like myself. It was always a 2LP, so the running length was never a problem for the low end but the records were pretty thin and vinyl was on the way out in those days. I'm spinning mine now for what must be the first time in 25 years. Larger than life drums are certainly there by design! I'd really like to know if the remaster is an upgrade on what was already a very artificially big sounding album.
How come “we already know the vinyl remaster is digital?” It should be AAA!
They recorded it in 1990/91 this was for sure digital
Thanks Michael. I read the following on Steve Hoffman’s forum:
“[TBA] was an analog recording mixed through an analog console. The only thing digital was the two track recorder... and I think they also mixed this to analog tape but obviously preferred the sound of the digital tape.”
I have no idea if this is true or not, but I’d also be surprised if an 80s band recorded by Bob Rock would record only in digital. Would be cool to hear the analogue tapes if they, in fact, exist.
I think the issue is maybe none of the Metallica guys are really vinyl fans. Supposedly Tool are, by contrast, and so they’re supposedly working on a AAA release of their catalog. Here’s to hoping.
Wow those are interesting news i knew nothing about thx a lot for sharing this Austin
Very entertaining review!
Michael it’s a tempting set. I have just the remastered LP and I ordered the Blacklist CD. I would end up being completely burned out on Metallica if I even went halfway through all that. A discography maybe. One album of that much submersion would drown most of us. Looks cool just too much. Do you intend to listen to and view all the media? You may get more grey by the time you do! Ha! Thx. I appreciate your videos. Peace.
This thing is a monster
Another Great Video cept all I see is a spinny thing hmmm
Did you say.....wait......I HAD to have miss-heard.......nope........$52.....THOUSAND? Who in the F&%@ has.......wait.......5000 albums behind collector at $25 to $2000 a pop.........never mind..........
I can smell this guy
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Not a bad thing
I've got this box and must say DVDs are big disappointed (the past ones were also bad). I wonder why they decided to put so many shows in poor quality instead of one in good quality.
did you know that this album was recorded on DAT ?^
nope did not know that
@@Michael45RPM it should be written somewhere in the booklet of that 30th anniversary box set.
👌👌
I have to admit, I'm not a fan of metal rock. For me, such monster box sets are only for the hardcore fans. A lot of material doesn't mean a lot of quality, but often the opposite.
I'm sorry man, 52.000 copies worldwide is laughable, especially considering the popularity of this album. Their most 'accessible release should have been made more easily available, if that means compromising on the packaging to do so they could have. Content wise they could have replaced all dvd content with a bluray disc and leave out the interview discs (for example)
they Release the album too so it’s ok i think
I found terrible sibilance on the vocals of "Nothing Else Matters". Everything else was fine, so I'm assuming it's not my stylus.
Yes. Your stylus is good. That’s the problem on this record. Everything else is fine.
meiner meinung nach das überbewerteste "Metal" album überhaupt. einige sehr gute songs, das muss ich zugeben, aber auchn haufen "füllmaterial" ....
die 3 besten Metallica alben sind die 3 mit Cliff Burton.