Essential first track day tip: JUST GO ALREADY
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2016
- You can spend thousands on your car preparing for your first track day and install loads of parts from superchargers to calipers, but being “ready” is a state of mind. No experts or race cars here, just a guy who finally got over himself and out to a race track at SCCA’s track night in America.
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Great video. Most people don't realize that seat time and experience is the best mod you can do/have. You will learn exponentially more driving a slow car 10/10ths rather than driving a fast car 3/10ths. I have been tracking my car for years, and wished that I would have started off that way. Don't let your ego get the best of you, play by the rules, and most importantly have fun.
I've been wanting to get to a track for 3 years now but have been super intimidated. This video definitely helped alleviate some of that. Thanks for taking us along with you.
The most nervous was when I entered the track facilities and saw/heard cars flying past on the straight, but once I got to driving I was still alert but not nervous at all
The title is good advice! And a well produced video with some valid thoughts on your first track day. I would suggest some others, though. You don't NEED a high HP, modded car for your first, second, or 100th track day. Modding the driver is the #1 most important thing. Get an instructor or at least a ride-along from someone in the advanced group to truly understand the lines, braking and acceleration points, and limits of your car. It is SO different from driving on the street. Don't think that a motorcycle helmet is suitable protection - it's meant for a single impact, not bouncing around against objects in the cabin. That said, at the speeds you would be going, your street legal car with good belts and airbags should really be sufficient. Don't drive with your window half open - full up or full down (your passenger window was part open in one session). Sunroof should really be closed as body parts which go out that way in a crash will probably get amputated. And if you got flagged for a bogus fuel leak, the clowns doing the unsafe passing should have been black flagged immediately. Not really impressed with the running of the event. But I'm glad you had a good experience. Hope you went back (in another car)!
It was a loose ship event. All good points and important for other drivers to hear, thanks for writing it all out!
Great vid, enjoyed it and learned quite a but too!
My first track day is in three days! Stock AF '12 Honda Fit here we go!
Keep it under 100 👌
It was a blast, and there was not enough room to go past 75 in my case!
Thanks to you I’m going to my first track day in December. It’ll be a cold one but hopefully it goes well. Thanks for the motivation and sorry about the car
great video! I can tell a lot of work went into editing it. can't believe I'm just seeing this now !
Thanks! I do spend about 3x the time editing than shooting generally!
Glad I found this video. I want to get into the track as I'm getting bored just driving my car. Thank you for sharing your experience. Now I know what to expect. Thanks again!
Awesome! Glad you're gonna get out there and drive! I'll be taking my Evo X in August finally!
PIR. Cool, always curious how track looked while on the track. Thank you for posting. Now I need to get my Vette back together.
Thanks for the tips. Hoping to take my R to the track this year
You were so right. I was building my car and had same thoughts , its not ready yet... Then I was looking for tips for my first track day, car setup, track rules and how to behave on a race track, and I came across this video of yours. All I can say is... you were so right and thank you :), you gave me confidence to go and drive.
Also, doing only essential mods on your car for a first track day leaves you bunch of other mods you can try out on other track days.
I had 4 track days so far, and I am keen on having more :P
Its just like you said, we have nothing to prove, just drive, behave and have fun.
How the hell does a video of this quality have so very views
What...
@@cupcakeo7705 you know what he's saying, stop being a jackass
Thanks for the kind words, I haven't promoted this piece anywhere just yet. Once I post it up a few places I'm hoping to get some more views on it. Gotta work for every view and every sub!
Glad I ran across this. Been stalling on that first track day too though I'm perfectly happy to run my car stock for now. No money lost.
Yeah honestly running a car stock and running it as you modify it seems like it's probably a better idea than just diving in and driving a souped up one. Way less to worry about on stock tunes with stock parts. What car are you running?
Love the vid fella! keep up the good work, thoroughly fun video to watch and great for anyone going on there first trackday.
This channel is far more superior than channels with 10, even 100 times the subscribers. Well done dude, well done.
It always makes me feel good hearing that stuff from viewers, I appreciate the support and I'm glad you're enjoying what I'm making!
Quality Video and narration work! Still surprised you don't have 10x the views by now. Now a subscriber. And BTW, you'r vid helped kick my ass and am now signed up for my WRX's first track day at Lime Rock next month. Peace.
Dude what an amazing video, truly underappreciated.
Taking my vette on Daytona tomorrow for my first track in a car. Great vid buddy you’re funny! After a few laps I realize that’s PIR around my motorcycle wide open there a few times lol now I live in Florida
Have fun out there! I'm finally getting on the track again this season and looking forward to the thrills again! Have a little Fiesta ST while the Evo project slogs along!
@@MinuteRiceChannel LFG! Have fun
Congratulations on finally making it to the track! Love the video! One suggestion I would make while you are still early in the process is to find an organization to run with that has proper instruction. Having an in-car coach as well as classroom time will help you to not solidify bad habits. NASA and BMW club have excellent programs.
Wow... great video bro. Felt like I was watching a movie with naration
Dude I really enjoyed this.
2:38 lmao. I'm about to have my first track day on my bike in about 3 weeks. Glad you had fun!
Great video, I wish more people had your attitude towards track days. Too many drive aggressively and inconsiderately.
Just get out there and do it! Any car is fun on the track! :D
Man, thought I was watching a major youtube channel before I checked the Sub count. GREAT video man, keep it up!
+Christian Jones Thank you kindly! I'm trying to keep the professionalism on my channel high. I'm not making any money on this, but it has been GREAT practice!
Great video. Hope to make it back to P.I.R soon. See ya there 😊
Turn Off Your AC! Condensate from you ac system was probably dripping out
definitely didn't have that on, I don't even tend to use it in traffic in the summer much. Only theory anyone had that made sense was that it was most likely was a crack in the evap canister from being positively pressurized by the supercharger for years. I had evap related codes come up after the kraftwerks kit went on, and my gas mileage plummeted from my previous supercharger kit (cte).
Awesome video man! Great job with it.
Ciao from Italy! After having a wonderful integra typeR back in 1999 and always regretting to have never brought it to a track… I’ve just booked my first track session for the 17th of September. Just hope the other drivers will be as gentleman as you, Italians have the tendency to over do it when it comes to driving.😂😂😂
Very well put together!
watching and i see PIR. Fellow oregonian. I will be hitting the track starting next year! nice video
Hey, that's my local track! I'd love to head out to it once I get some cash saved up.
94tegLSatMSC Nailed it! Having an instructor really makes things so much easier. They help you learn the track, follow up on what you learn in class and get you up to speed very quickly IF YOU LISTEN! Yes, I said class. Even as an Advanced Driver, I ALWAYS get an instructor when I go to a new track. DE's are for FUN and LEARNING. By the way, you also get to run the crap out of your car if so desired:)
Nice track day session..
great video. true inspiration and insight.
this is the greatest video i have ever seen on youtube.. on this account.. but still very informative
Awesome video !!! Thanks for that . and nice kamera pipe mount trick :) you just make may day happyer :)))
Glad it helped you! They are cheap and versatile, enjoy!
I'm going on my first track day next winter, that's my goal. Apart from getting a new daily I will be buying a 350Z for my first ever track car. I'm probably on going to get new seats and an exhaust before the first track day but more will definitely come In the future
This is weird. It took this long for me to find see this vid? Odd. Your vid is excellent quality. Enjoyable. Witty. But it never comes up on any searches? Any case, i subbed u bro.
Thanks for watching! SEO has never been my strong suit! If you know anyplace people would like to watch it please repost!
Hey I love the video. Hell of an editing job. I want to make my 61 ford falcon track ready. The only thing left I can think of that I would need is a true seatbelt. I only have a lap belt, but considering it's age it is "road worthy". since I have never been in contact with a track i don't know the set rules and I don't want to show up and pay and then not be able to race. Thanks again man!
That sounds like a rad car to take to a track, I hope you get to take it out soon! Also I'm sure even if the rules didn't formally state you needed more than a lap belt you'd be much safer working out a harness setup, without airbags you would be in for a nasty crash if you had one!
Minute Rice Channel thank you for the response! I'll definitely Get a full seatbelt/harness setup.
Really cool video, but there is one thing i noticed:
I have never been on a track myself but having watched a lot of onboard videos of pro drivers I would suggest you to keep your hand at 3 and 9 o' clock for better control over your car.
Tough to do with power steering and a low ratio rack and pinion.
Great video, reminds me of my first time at the track.
Thanks for the vid. Even though we are from different camps...can you please share how you limit boost on your car per gear? I (think) I have a similar supercharger on my supercharged Z06 and that sounds like a great feature. Thanks!
wonderful video! definitely subscribing.
good vid. iam also finally going to my first track day this weeked..finally after building cars forever..
Did you end up going? I wanted to go before anything was added on my 8th gen! To feel the difference..thinking tires, suspension and weight reduction first, then idk after that
Please guys, read some articles about seating position, how to hold the wheel, etc...
Absolutely. This guy has terrible driving habits. Should have gone and got some instruction before going out to track.
And _all_ those power mods he obsessively did should have waited until he sorted out brakes, tyres, driving skill and suspension in that order
SCCA Track night is the best
I have a 2016 Mustang GT performance pack that handles track time very well! Ford did a great job with the brakes and cooling. Only issue was the rear diff. Oil gets too hot, and the only wait to solve that is to remove the 2 plugs on the cover, and install a cooler. Like the GT350 has (same diff cover)
Thats too bad on the rear diff, but every car has it's weak point. I test drove a 2015 gt contemplating one before i bought my evo x last year, the modern GTs are very cool cars but in my rainy climate i was concerned about getting my money's worth in traction. You have any videos of your car? Thanks for watching!
Best track day experience video on RUclips
That's quite a compliment and I appreciated it! Thanks for watching!
It not only encouraged me but my wife as well. She wants to get into a track day with her 2013 Honda Accord Sport and she is always saying its not "ready" for the track. National Corvette Motorpark is less than an hour from our home and they have beginner days and classes that we can take together and your video gave her encouragement she needed.
Awesome! That's why I made this video! I think that the "never good enough" mentality drives the aftermarket in cars, but is detrimental to everyday enthusiasts like us!
1: Shade: via a tent or Sportbrella XL (Big hat is great too). 2: Rags: A terry cloth rag you can dip in your cooler to wipe your face etc to cool down. 3: Extra Lug Nuts: Because they strip sometimes 4: Extra Belt(s) Because they break 4: Extra Axle: Because Torque 5: Gloves: Because race cars make everything hot! 6: First Aid Kit for the clumbsy people 7: Bikini Model: To stand on the side of the track and distract the other drivers and mess up their lap times.
I brought a tub with a torque wrench, a full socket set, rags, oil, coolant, traction fluid (for the rotrex charger), some prybars, water, water and water, a few snacks, a hoodie, gloves, zip ties, stainless steel zip ties, and an electric impact driver with a full charge. The track night was only 3-4 hours, but for a full track day a canopy would have been a very good idea! Thanks for watching!
THANK YOU, YOU HAVE INSPIRED ME ;) I'M GOING ON THE NEXT SESSION ON BUTTON WILLOW RACEWAY CALIFORNIA
Awesome! Be safe and have fun out there!
Bye the time you reAched the end you realize its a sad but beautiful story 😢👏👌
Thanks for the video man
Absolutely! I just felt like there must be a lot of people like me second guessing themselves to death and avoiding a great time / learning experience just because like they weren't feeling "ready"...
With covid restrictions doing my first trackday has been delayed a year, my biggest worry at the moment is my car has front disc & *rear drum* brakes ("warm hatch" life) so I'm worried whether the brakes will just crap the bed on the outlap let alone in a multi lap stint...
it's my daily too and one that I plan to sell not too long from now so i'm not about to upgrade the entire braking system... (other than pads and fluid of course), i'll get into that when I get my mx-5 or brz :P
So is it ok to do a track day on the standard brakes? I assume I should do small stints, literally one fast lap and then come in to cooldown (out-fast-in) or do I just feel it out and im not going to cause any lasting damage as long as I slow down the moment I feel the brakes start going spongy and pit to cool down for a while? (i expect somewhere in the middle is the answer so if anyone has some tips ill be greatful ^_^)
it's hard to find info like this in my research as everyone just says "get a big brake kit!" but surely you can track a car with normal brakes so long as you know your limits right?...
Well done ✔. Great video.
this guy needs more subs!
I have been in the same situation with the black flags (UK) "dropping fuel or oil on track" me jumping out to check! Didn't find anything after the 3rd time i went looking for the guy that reported it. I found him "its get a haze when going down the track". I told him it will its a Diesel. "Can't be!" Apparently you can't have a 280hp Golf TDi :)
Great video, I'm deffo that guy.... Who puts it off till I'm ready so thanks bro 100% doin one in a few weeks now
Enjoy yourself out there! I think I'm finally going to get myself another one for my birthday personally. I've bought and modded a new car since this video but haven't done a real track day in it, just some instructed laps on a private track when i was on a shoot.
Glad you finally made it to the track, but running with an organization that doesn’t require point bys on straights the entire time means you should find a better group that is far more safety conscious. Also, try to learn to always keep your hands at 9-3 on the steering wheel. This quickly becomes essential if you need to recover from a spin. I would also highly recommend you do some autocrossing to learn car control under extremely safe conditions. Good luck.
Nice video man. A+
What camera are you using. Looks good. I’m hitting the track for the first time soon. Would like to record the experience.
Hey there, this was shot a while ago with:
-Nikon D5200
-GoPro Hero 3+ Black x2
-Samsung Galaxy S6
-Rode VideoMic
-Blue Yeti microphone
All my videos have a gear list hidden down in the descriptions if you ever want to know what I used! Have fun out there and post up what you shoot!
Thank you
deserves more views than 9k!!
Great video and encouraged me to pull the trigger on a track day at VIR. Hopefully my car doesn't disintegrate while driving, well Yolo right?
Yeah I almost feel it's more sad to mod a car and never use it than to risk ruining it while using it! What are you taking out to run?
Totally true man! I drive a '16 focus ST it's a fun little minivan let me tell ya.
Oh that should put up with a track night with no problems at all! just do fluids (oil, maybe brake fluid) and if you're hard on your brakes or concerned about their longevity then buy another set of pads to cook on track. In a 2016 everything should be in pretty damn good shape though!
That's the most subdued driving I've ever seen you do.
laps that look slow tend to be faster
I have a question. Is it necessary to tune the car before entering the track? As I remember how much time, effort and money I have killed to prepare my Subaru for street races, I feel bad already.
You should millions of views for this video
is this actually PIR,,,,,,, ( portland ) my usual place for max fun each year at the ABFM.... Labor Day weekend usually....Art..
very well done... !!
These videos super cool!!!! :)
Thanks for the kind words!
Portland International Raceway -- My home track.
Great video intro to track days. A little ironic that a guy with a FI Civic is criticizing a BRZ for being nimble but underpowered. :D
Any chance (unlikely) you were running AC and flag guy saw condensate?
AC was definitely not on since I don't even use it during most of the year, I believe they were seeing an EVAP system leak, but my EVAP system was disable in flashpro so it wasn't throwing codes? Never found out for sure, but that was my best guess: the car has since been sold. I think the reason I point out that 86s are slow is just because they don't look slow and when you drive them in twisties they don't feel slow, but roll race someone and you remember... yeah they're slow as hell. The civics are sporty economy cars, the 86s are slow sports cars.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Perfect
Why did you have to sell the car? Thinking about trying to go to a track someday. Sounds like insuring it will be crazy expensive though.
My 24 year old daily driver is not ready at all for track day with work out suspension 😂🤣🤣♥️
Subscribed 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks for watching and supporting!
Damn this video was better than any thatdudeinblue has ever done. You got my sub.
haha thanks man, I'm trying to hold the work on this channel to a higher standard than the basic vlog format with a bunch of chatting in or near a car!
Please, never change that. Quality over quantity is exactly how MCM have gotten to where they are today. If you refuse to compromise your standards for any reason, your channel will grow at a steady pace. You've earned yourself a sub. I look forward to seeing more. :-)
Thanks for the support!
Great video, while there are a few things I may not agree with being a veteran to track days... the main point of the video was great. So many people think they need a racecar for they're first track day when in reality it only needs to be reliable. Just get out there and start tracking!
Also Track Night In America is known to be a shit show with no in car instructors. Basically newbs that have never done a track day all let loose at the same time with no real consequences of doing dumb shit on track. If you do another track day I recommend doing an event with NASA, they have in car instructors as well as classroom sessions. Much more structured and more emphasis on safety. Happy motoring
Thanks for commenting and watching! I have a friend that does Porsche and Audi club days that has told me the same thing. I definitely wasn't impressed with the organization of the event, but I really appreciated not having to take a full day off work and shell out $3-400 for an event. I'll be trying some other events here soon and posting up about those as well!
Well? What's up with the leak? Ever find it!?
Good video and I liked your approach to people saying their car is not "track ready". As far as your Track Night in America, yeah that is another reason I can't stand the SCCA, it's almost like the union. Anyway give Auto Interests a look see, they put together a nice program because this is what they specialize in. The also have a car control course at each event. Prices are what you'd expect for a normal track day, but if you sign up early you can get the days cheaper.
My struggle is supporting my channel or supporting my cars... I get a few grand to play with and it would almost always be better used on more gear than more parts and driving. I'm hopeful to get on track again in August this year with my Evo X but we'll see what life has in store for me!
You got a sub from me simply because you seem more real than most of the car review videos I have watched. Keep up the good work and it will happen.
I appreciate the support and kind words. I'm trying to keep it real, I can't stand in your face BS Vlogging and I'm trying to keep that method of recording far far away from my channel. This isn't a channel about me as I view it, it's a channel about driving and cars!
I like how you used the o.g. metal gear solid sound effects.
It's the era I know, dude! Glad you caught it!
cool car, I really miss my FG2
So what was leaking!?
awesome advice people get all wrapped up in these parts they will need without even knowing what its really like at the limit. Just get the best tires and brakes you can afford and just fucking go
Love it 😆
My car makes 100 horses lol, I'm not visiting the track until I get my dreamed C6 Z06, it will be soon I'm working hard for it
Go drive now and learn, otherwise you're most likely to pack up your dream car once you get it.
wow dude! loved this video! love the civic! and you sold it!?!?! why ?
First of all thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed it! In short I sold the Civic because I make bad financial choices and always think the grass is greener on the other side! This Civic was for a short while in residence with my 07 WRX wagon AND a '13 Evo X I bought when I paid off the Civic, but I could barely afford to maintain all of them and it was defeating having all these great cars and not being able to maintain them. For a while I had the WRX and Evo but starting to freelance shoot video stole way too much money from me so now I have an Evo X and 2011 Scion xB to haul crap and drive to and from Seattle when I shoot for Stancewars Mike! I think if I could do it again I'd probably have kept this Si with the CT-E kit and a motorcycle on the side. It was a perfect mixture of quick and cheap! Oh well, I love the X, but damn it's spendy and keeps breaking left and right!
Should I go if I have a stock d16y8 (like 100hp to the wheels)?
There were dudes in everything from stock Miata's to 90s Neons, and even a big ass oldsmobile, I wouldn't go into the Intermediate or advanced driving groups since you'll be holding up trained drivers in 400+ whp cars, but the beginners group had a huge mix of cars from those to NSXs and Porsches.
Minute Rice Channel At the tracks near me I think you have to drive with noobs and an instructor for a while first.
Did you get any solution for the filler cap or tankn
The best reasoning I heard was from Vit Viper @ Vittuned (my tuner) he said he thought the pressure from the SC forced its way back to the Evap canister and had pressurized it, possibly causing a split that would throw the occasional gas cap CEL and maybe leak some gas under WOT. I have sold this car since, but that was the best explanation I ever heard of what might have been happening.
Minute Rice Channel
I have a Kw supercharged s2k on Aem ems. since aem cant control the evap system, our charcoal canister fills up with fuel.. might be the issue you were having.
do you ever get raw fuel smell on decel or in the garage after parking your car for a while?
This is by far the most viewed vid on your channel!!! Make more relatable track videos!!!!! And vlogs!!!!
Nice video. One bit of advice for your next track day. Don't shuffle steer so much.
Did you ever find what they called a fuel leak??
While I owned the car, no. A friend made a very valid suggestion after the fact though that my EVAP box may have been separating from being pressurized by the supercharger and been leaking drops of fuel under boost? That was the best explanation I ever formed, but I never witnessed it leaking anything and none of my friends or driving buddies ever did either!
Just wondering why the first time pulling you off the track is yellow flag instead of black?
I'm not honestly sure, could have been they were signalling people to beware of what they thought my car was leaking?
PIR? If so I knew the opening shots were Oregon's. If not....damn this looks like Oregon.
I have a question. Is it true that automakers of any kind would void your warranty if say you buy their brand new sports car (BMWs, Porsches, Subaru STIs, etc.) and then take it to the Track or AutoX it, even if you don't modify your car and keep it stock. Or would you take those claims as nothing more but a grain of salt? If this is true, then I feel that this is a rather sensitive topic that needs to give more insight and awareness of what consumers are going to experience, especially when they considered taking their brand new sports car to the track or autoX events for the first time when some of these track-ready cars are truly designed for which doesn't even make sense and it kind of concerns me.
Hey there, that's a very real concern, and I should preface my comment with the fact that I'm not expert and you shouldn't take any legal advice from me! I have heard of a warranty being voided for just about everything over the years, and I think that you always roll the dice when you use your car how you want to with one. I have heard of people being told their car failed from "abuse" and voiding a warranty claim when the driver swears they never do anything but drive it on the road, and gently at that. I think from what I've seen that buying your car form a reasonable dealership is more important than how you choose to use your vehicle. Some dealerships seem to avoid warranty work like the plague and fight virtually any warranty repair work with claims of abuse, which are especially easy to toss around on sports cars. My personal ethos has always been to just buy cheaper used cars with no warranty and expect to pay for repairs out of pocket, so my first hand experience is null. If anything I would recommend discussing your potential uses of your car with your dealership and, if possible get in writing that driving a car on a race track doesn't constitute "abuse" under your warranty. In all likelihood though, your warranty probably already has a section covering competition or off road use written into it somewhere. Good luck, and report back if you have any breakthroughs! I'm sure others would like to hear about it!
Hi, thanks for the reply! Unfortunately, I don't have a "sport/performance car" of any sort at this moment, hence why I'm asking these sort of questions first is not only due to monetary issue, but certain policies like the warranty claims that each automakers or dealerships have that worries me. I know I shouldn't take legal advice from you as you said. However, it doesn't hurt that I would tell one of the reps from the dealership or their service department about my potential use for the sports car, let's say I purchase the BMW M2, Subaru WRX STI, or the Toyota 86 and let them know that I'm interested in taking these cars to the track or AutoX and still honor my warranty and have some sort of legal consultant and negotiation skills or some kind of bargain to help me get through this to make those plans possible. Find ways to convince them on how the track is considered a safe and secure environment that let's people have their free-will to test their brand new sports car to the limits that they've earned hard-money on and how it's going to help promote their brand and products which could be a bonus. At least, that's how I think.
P.S I would also like to hear from others from experience as well about their warranty claims when taking their cars to the Track or AutoX. And if possible, can you make a video about warranty claims and track issues for everyone to hear and share? That would be appreciated.
Your post actually had me jotting down this subject as a potential episode, I'd like to try and compose something, but I'll have to work on gathering interviewees and of course scheduling all of it. I don't think I'll have time for it too soon, but I have added it to my list of episode ideas! As for convincing a dealership or service department I think you should probably just find one that doesn't disagree with you that the car you buy can be used on track with warranty. Convincing someone is difficult, and even if you did there's no guarantee that you'll be dealing with that exact same employee when you have to make a warranty claim, or that they even work there anymore!
PIR! Best city park in the lower 48!! I would add for the few other people seeing this for the first time, go to motorsportsreg.com, start with car control clinic in left side menu. Hopefully you have clubs near you that will give you basic instruction. Track insurance not necessary as with me( or my colleagues) in the right seat,we will keep you on track . Beware Track Nite in America doesn't always provide instructor, You have to ask. If no instructor, do basic car control clinic. That's all for now. Grandpa Bob
Why would you take a civic to a track or spend so much money on it?
did you ever figure out the fuel leak thing?
Thanks for asking, The best reasoning I heard was from Vit Viper @ Vittuned (my tuner) he said he thought the pressure from the SC forced its way back to the Evap canister and had pressurized it, possibly causing a split that would throw the occasional gas cap CEL and maybe leak some gas under WOT. I have sold this car since, but that was the best explanation I ever heard of what might have been happening. I've got a 2013 Evo X now that I'm hoping to visit a track with finally in 2018!
haha, getting the car "ready" huh... also side note, 16mpg on track is weak, I got my 150whp miata down to 8
Sheesh, yeah I'm expecting the Evo to absolutely throw back gasoline at a track day. Stock around town it was getting 15-20 mpg with a number of exhaust leaks, with an MHI 18k and full intake and exhaust it's actually improved, but only to 18-22. I'd love to get an E85 tune and a new clutch before trying to take it out on track, but we'll see. Buying camera gear absolutely cleaned my clock out this year!
I got about the same when I had my evo... shouldn't spit gas at the track though since with was designed from the factory with boost in mind
Yeah I've been enjoying tinkering with cars built with turbos a bit more than bolting them onto an N/A platform (my WRX or the Evo). I know there's plenty of great kits out there for Hondas and BRZs and stuff, but most kits are only as good as the installer, which was me, at like 22 y/o.... What you drive now?
also your two front windows should be 100% rolled down, so if you flip they can pull you out - seriously. That's not gaslighting or anything, just the truth.
My bets on the fuel leak.... rear window washer fluid.
It doesn't have a rear mount tank. After I sold the car my tuner and I had lunch and I mentioned it. He said he was pretty sure that the EVAP box had separated or cracked from the boost I was accidentally sending it via the supercharger, had I put a check valve it it might not have been a problem!
4:40 honestly, if it's your first time, you should have had an instructor riding shotgun. My events require instructors for the novice group