Howard Lau Yeah in 2001 Hainan Island incident a Shenyang J-8 Strike Fighter collided with the US navy EP-3E Aircraft. The reason was the Chinese J-8 jet bumped the wing of the larger, slower, and less maneuverable EP-3E. Talks a lot about their quality of Planes and Pilots. It reminds me of the Soviet Tactic of colliding planes if the guns and Missiles of the Aircraft don't work. Kinda like the Japanese Kamikazes of WW2. They really haven't changed much.
@@actisac wtf was a EP3E doing in Hainan island??? firing on it would have caused war, so no its different to Kamikazes or USSR, WangWei used his life to defend his country's sovereignty with no other options, plus that EP3 got disassembled and "for ease of shipping", thanks america for sending a gift like that
China should still maintain the F-7/J-7 fighter. These are good durable and proven fighters which can still play a significant role in safeguarding China's airspace. With the introduction of the modern J-10 and Sukhoi fighters, the F-7 can play a supportive role to these new chinese fighters.
Bangladesh Airforce still has 36 of these. All operational.
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It made me watch again the youtube video "Evaluation of MiG-21 By USAF". And there you can see how biased is the information told of the video here shown.
The Chinese have redesigned and rebuilt an airframe that was the pinnicle of performance. There's nothing wrong with that. They have built factory fresh machines called the Chengdu J-7. This video is misleading.
+AugustusLarch No matter how many upgrades you add to the Fishbed, it's still a design that first flew before Sputnik. The short legs of the design, lack of truly state-of-the-art avionics and weapon systems, and lack of stealth makes me think that even with a 25:1 or even 100:1 ratio, they're going to be outmatched by modern fighters. Modern fighters can shoot BVR, which can thin a swarm significantly and then plant doubts in the minds of those who survive the initial wave of Slammers. Seeing a bunch of your regiment explode into greasy black fireballs can snap any fighter-jock back to cold reality pretty quick. That being said, I have no desire to see the PRC ever have to go against any other air force. I don't like war at all.
The initial commentator is wrong look at the J-20. --- This video is highly dated from the Cold War period. They type of Mig 21 shown is the old type not the type for example that the Bangladesh or Pakistani Airforce use.
***** An A-6 is no easy meat. After they drop their bomb load the A-6 can out turn most fighters. They can duck missiles as well and have chaff and decoy flares.
***** The Intruder was a tremendously successful aircraft. The only reason they didn't order more is the economy required multi-use aircraft. F-14's were the crap. Designed around a weapons system that was only fired once in combat(by Iran) and missed.
AugustusLarch You imbecile the F-14 was the most feared aircraft for Iran. They lost ONE and scored over 80 kills. The F-14 is one of the "special" aircraft while most aircrafts lock up on high speed and maneuver like a brick the F-14 got more maneuverable with speed. The Combat record of the F-14 is spotless and it has many kills. It was undefeated in South korea and red flag war games. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_aerial_victories_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war There are other links to show how good it was in Bosina serbia us iraq war AND Israel. The F-14 blew the intruder out of the water. Pilots HATED the intruder it was slow cumbersome and could not climb. It wasn't even good at ground attack thats why the navy wanted to fit F-14s for naval ships. The pilots HATED the "dogfish"
ehhhhhh boiiiii. The best bet would be to put latest generation air-air infrared/UV missiles and shoot them defensively (they track the first thing they see.)
It makes me chuckle when I think of these going up against an F-15C, an F-18F or, if I dare, an F-22 Raptor. The Chinese still fly this thing in active service! So do several other air forces. I suppose they would make decent target drones for us to use. The only advantage they would have would be sheer numbers. We couldn't reload quick enough. I think there are like 5k of these things. An Aegis cruiser could empty her magazines and still not get them all. Be fun to fly though
you do realize that this plane with modern radar can be very hard to kill according to the Us air force pilots indians flying updated mig 21s were far harder to kill than the su 27.
@segregator236 Sure it is. Anything Chinese in the air is nothing more than target drones for US military fighters. It's not only hardware, but tactics and support as well. I will grant the strength of the ground forces. The ChiCom main battle tank is as fine as any in the world. And it's not just me. Ask any competent military specialist, and they will all say the same thing. I know, your going to say "ignorant, arrogant American" , but it's true, and deep down you know it.
“Well, thats the general idea”
I’d like to be this pilots friend lmao
He actually said "well, that's about it." Not everyone is a sarcastic American
@@we-ok4vididn’t ask
This TV program was boardcasted by BBC in 1989, so this scene was filmed could be 87, or 88!
1970s, still using soviet jets. MiG-21...
2013, J-10, J-11, J-16, JL-9, Q-5. So much have changed. Wow.
Howard Lau Yeah in 2001 Hainan Island incident a Shenyang J-8 Strike Fighter collided with the US navy EP-3E Aircraft. The reason was the Chinese J-8 jet bumped the wing of the larger, slower, and less maneuverable EP-3E. Talks a lot about their quality of Planes and Pilots. It reminds me of the Soviet Tactic of colliding planes if the guns and Missiles of the Aircraft don't work. Kinda like the Japanese Kamikazes of WW2. They really haven't changed much.
Howard Lau J-7 is still in service.
@@actisac wtf was a EP3E doing in Hainan island??? firing on it would have caused war, so no its different to Kamikazes or USSR, WangWei used his life to defend his country's sovereignty with no other options, plus that EP3 got disassembled and "for ease of shipping", thanks america for sending a gift like that
@@dendrov brainwashing much?
Astra developed decades ago yet j8 has a higher top speed than any American fighter jet in service.
China should still maintain the F-7/J-7 fighter. These are good durable and proven fighters which can still play a significant role in safeguarding China's airspace. With the introduction of the modern J-10 and Sukhoi fighters, the F-7 can play a supportive role to these new chinese fighters.
We have 3 Squadrons of these in our Asian country no issue super aircrafts
Thanks.. we have a Mig 21 here im NZ👍✈️🇳🇿
Gotta respect the pilots tho. Atleast they happy by their own accords. That’s something that matters more now
Look at the canopy lid and delta wing, this is most likely a J-7I, the straight copy of MiG-21F-13.
I saw 3 J-7I and 1 J-7II，the latter one has an improved ejection seat which is more suitable for Asians.
Nice video of useful data such as old uniform of the pilots was shown here. Thanks for your upload
and look at them now, since this was made
Still the most beautiful plane ever built ..
Production started in Shenyang then was moved to Chengdu in the 1970s
Bangladesh Airforce still has 36 of these. All operational.
It made me watch again the youtube video "Evaluation of MiG-21 By USAF".
And there you can see how biased is the information told of the video here shown.
They wearing the helmet of tank crew.
He said 5300 figter jets and the year is about 1985... since then they fall to 1000 jets, but most of them 4th generation.
@nusld Yep, it's a durable legacy fighter, equally as reliable as their Soviet-built counterparts.
Very interesting video, havent seen this in a long time
Is complete documentry available? If yes, please share the link....
Can’t believe how far the Chinese have gotten
The Chinese have redesigned and rebuilt an airframe that was the pinnicle of performance. There's nothing wrong with that. They have built factory fresh machines called the Chengdu J-7. This video is misleading.
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+AugustusLarch No matter how many upgrades you add to the Fishbed, it's still a design that first flew before Sputnik. The short legs of the design, lack of truly state-of-the-art avionics and weapon systems, and lack of stealth makes me think that even with a 25:1 or even 100:1 ratio, they're going to be outmatched by modern fighters. Modern fighters can shoot BVR, which can thin a swarm significantly and then plant doubts in the minds of those who survive the initial wave of Slammers. Seeing a bunch of your regiment explode into greasy black fireballs can snap any fighter-jock back to cold reality pretty quick.
That being said, I have no desire to see the PRC ever have to go against any other air force. I don't like war at all.
Luka Preradović haha nice joke; try dealing with BVR missiles.
The initial commentator is wrong look at the J-20. --- This video is highly dated from the Cold War period. They type of Mig 21 shown is the old type not the type for example that the Bangladesh or Pakistani Airforce use.
And how the situation changed
These are still being used O.o
Hopefully just as an intercepter and they are not relying on them
They don’t rely on them too much, they’re installing advanced ai systems to essentially turn them into drones that can swarm enemy with sheer numbers
J-7s are dedicated interceptors
Where can I find this vido? what is that called?
quantity is always better option to choose rather than quality
Aurobindo Ghosh nice joke man.
very old video
didn't production cese in 2013
Does anyone know what documentary this clip is from?
Interesting!
these are the same planes MM Alam made world record shooting superior indian jets so its the man behind the machine which factors more
当年飞歼7都是飞行员中的精英。
If they can't fly in the rain, how did they find Vancouver??????????
omg，14 years ago
@0Heavy0Metal0 Is my grammer that bad? lol I'm not chinese I just love the MiG-21's design ..
What BS we have flown them, and we hit targets without any issue in our war in Asia . We 3 Squadrons of the F7 fighters..
in the 80s when relations with the west was still good. Otherwise I doubt they'd allow a BBC crew to film their pilots
one A-6 intruder has shot down by Chicom j-6 in 1967!
The A-6 is a ground attack jet/
***** An A-6 is no easy meat. After they drop their bomb load the A-6 can out turn most fighters. They can duck missiles as well and have chaff and decoy flares.
AugustusLarch I doubt it could do anything its slow and it cant turn and it cant climb thats why th navy wanted to replace it with the F14.
***** The Intruder was a tremendously successful aircraft. The only reason they didn't order more is the economy required multi-use aircraft. F-14's were the crap. Designed around a weapons system that was only fired once in combat(by Iran) and missed.
AugustusLarch You imbecile the F-14 was the most feared aircraft for Iran. They lost ONE and scored over 80 kills. The F-14 is one of the "special" aircraft while most aircrafts lock up on high speed and maneuver like a brick the F-14 got more maneuverable with speed.
The Combat record of the F-14 is spotless and it has many kills. It was undefeated in South korea and red flag war games.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_aerial_victories_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war
There are other links to show how good it was in Bosina serbia us iraq war AND Israel. The F-14 blew the intruder out of the water. Pilots HATED the intruder it was slow cumbersome and could not climb. It wasn't even good at ground attack thats why the navy wanted to fit F-14s for naval ships. The pilots HATED the "dogfish"
Wow reminds me of North Korea’s Air Force today.
Yeah xD
Still using MiG-15's
It's a display piece; it was decommissioned decades ago and would only ever be used in air shows.
@William Fuchs Many countries can hardly say they have an air force at all
ehhhhhh boiiiii. The best bet would be to put latest generation air-air infrared/UV missiles and shoot them defensively (they track the first thing they see.)
@segregator236 i think its called ftc-2000
@segregator236 ok, whatever you say. goodbye.
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this is an outdated video you haters!
today china has a very powerfull air force with 4.5 generation aircraft!
It makes me chuckle when I think of these going up against an F-15C, an F-18F or, if I dare, an F-22 Raptor. The Chinese still fly this thing in active service! So do several other air forces. I suppose they would make decent target drones for us to use. The only advantage they would have would be sheer numbers. We couldn't reload quick enough. I think there are like 5k of these things. An Aegis cruiser could empty her magazines and still not get them all. Be fun to fly though
you do realize that this plane with modern radar can be very hard to kill according to the Us air force pilots indians flying updated mig 21s were far harder to kill than the su 27.
mig 21 !! :D
What?
🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱Respekte..
@delta11434 Is good fighter cause is copy of mig-21 XD
Копия миг21ф13
@segregator236 Sure it is. Anything Chinese in the air is nothing more than target drones for US military fighters. It's not only hardware, but tactics and support as well. I will grant the strength of the ground forces. The ChiCom main battle tank is as fine as any in the world. And it's not just me. Ask any competent military specialist, and they will all say the same thing. I know, your going to say "ignorant, arrogant American" , but it's true, and deep down you know it.
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LOOOOOOOOOOONG LIVE CHINA ..
昔の中国空軍基地は、かなり古くさい
copy of MIG-21
gagz singh soviet and China r friends.