There's nothing more controversial or rich in discussion than _whether_ something's art or not. Vaporwave is just....man, it's got so much to it, both seriously and ironically.
Slowed and chopped versions of 80s and 90s songs that not all too many people listen to: Vaporwave Video of Bart Simpson with a VHS effect while slowed down XXTENTACION Plays: Not vaporwave, but normies think it is.
As someone who loves sound collages (Revolution 9 by the Beatles, Montage of Heck by Kurt Cobain, etc.) I love the concept of Floral Shoppe 2 and Liberated. Vapor-collage is a subgenre I wanna see more tbh.
Floral Shoppe was the peak of artsy sample-based vaporwave. It wasn't unique (John Oswald was doing stuff exactly like this in the late 80s-early 90s) But it still sounds unique and entertaining.
UNKNOWNGAM3r that album isn’t the actual Montage of Heck. (It’s named after it. Here’s the actual Montage of Heck: ruclips.net/video/3cwotPLa_Jk/видео.html )
So Vaporwave has entered the realm of Modern Classical music? Those have become so experimental and obscure, some people question if it is just noise. One performance I had the privilege of attending was just a guy rubbing 15 different cowbells with rubber for 20 minutes. It was loud chaos. Another was sextet where everyone played random notes at random time signatures.
I don't know if most vapour wave is composed, per se, in same way Avant Garde classical composers write music. I'm only well-informed about LP's released in the 1950's-70's(Stockhausen, Xenakis, P. Henry, J. Cage, Luc Ferrari, E. Varese, Ligeti, etc.); many of them are more bugged out than anything I could envisage in the vapour genres. There is to me an overlap of Aesthetics between them, imo.
@@shannonm.townsend1232 Ligeti is possibly my fave composer. You know there's a version of his opera "The Grand Macabre" on youtube? It's in my top 5 operas, and it's definitely the funniest I've ever seen,
contemporary classical music is more than just post-tonal, performance art and avant garde stuff Minimalism has some amazing melodic work (check out Glassworks by Phillip Glass or In C by Terry Riley) and continues to influence film scores. guys like John Luther Adams are creating gorgeous soundscapes (check out Become Ocean). David Bruce (who has a YT channel) makes amazing, listenable music firmly in the tonal world (check out Gumboots). Hate this "LOLDAE CLASSIKUL MUSIK IS STUCKHOZEN" myth that goes around in some circles,
P o o p e r S c o o p e r ' 9 9 That's why I love it so much. It's constantly being reinvented. If only we could get rid of the vaporwave police who love to say "that's not real vaporwave" as if that means anything.
That's my favorite vaporwave album, it feels very sincere and exhibits far more restraint than people give it credit for. I don't think its very "ironic" as you say, it just uses unpredictability to give a sense of unease combined with the normal vaporwave nostalgia.
Is it honestly you favorite? If so that's interesting. It may not be made ironically, but the bandcamp page exhibits nothing else than a careless and ironic vibe to me. I will agree it shows more restraint than it's credited for, it could easily be even more absurd and surreal, but I get no nostalgic or other tangible feelings at all, just poignant disappointment.
"Sincere"? in what way... how? this was probably made in an hour in audacity. just because something sounds "sincere" doesn't instantly make it good. it should have atleast some form of effort or anything that gives it objective worth to go along with it.
with all due respect, is this really that harsh, noisy, or weird, though? we've been doing even weirder shit since the 70s and 80s - throbbing gristle in the 70s and early 80s, coil at some of their weird moments - and then the entire power electronics and harsh noise scene that sprung up afterwards? that's all music, even if people think fans are "pretentious" - they aren't; not necessarily. For example, I like feedback. by itself. its ecstatic. I have no pretensions about it, I just /like it./ This sort of vaporwave - broken transmission type stuff - isn't really new or that avantgarde in comparison to what I just suggested, but it's good. it's wonderful. Everything has the potential to be music if we experience it that way. nothing is "just noise." You cannot go too far. (that said, I think Infinity Frequencies does this sound better
It goes back farther than that. The tape music of the 40s is something of a spiritual ancestor, and that stuff makes this album sound like top 40 radio
I actually do enjoy this album sometimes, especially when i go to sleep. I put the album on low volume and than it becomes pretty relaxing. The sub genre for this is Broken transmission and there are some more albums associated with this sound
Yes, saw Amuro and clicked. Recognizing images and wanting to find the original music of samples used is the only reason I have a passing interest in Vaporware.
This discussion reminds me of an unusual album called :Most Unwanted Music." It was composed in 1997 based on a survey stating the repsondant's favorite and least favorite types of music. I listened to it about a dozen times; it is so crazy and chaotic it may as well be a spiritual predecessor to the vaporwave genre.
No, wait, I think it might actually be from when Lalah dies and Amuro sees her Newtype ghost. The reflections in his eyes look kinda like her floating away.
1:02 Using Amuro Ray as the cover art for that album may be one of the most fitting things considering how the narrative of Mobile Suit Gundam follows a 14 year old boy thrown into war to pilot a giant war robot that his father build. Not to mention all of the themes in that series that have to do with mental manipulation and human experimentation, which continues into Zeta Gundam. A particular character, Four Murasame, was an artificial newtype that suffered from migraines for the majority we saw her on screen in Zeta Gundam. I now know the anguish she must of felt because even listening to a smidgen of that album made me feel like I would need to drown in a bottle of excedrin. I have a friend who puts out music under the title of Vomitronic, and I have to say that ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░ has easily gone to another level of indescribable structure or lack there of. It's not to say it's a heaping pile of absolute garbage, because music is ultimately subjective (except country music, which should be removed from Earth). I don't think most people are ready for the Cyber-Newtype music. Though some may be...
Hey Pad, great video so far! I've found out about the album in "top 50 vaporwave albums" which lists it as the third best after Vaporwave is Dead and Vaporwave Is Dead Again. I definitely didn't like it (just as the other two) but i found it quite interesting as a musical critique and "thinkpiece" i guess, idk if the dude was ironic or he genuinely liked it. It's too abrasive for me i think. Cheers my dude!
awf dwa yeah, that's a great list. I'm diggin most of the albums there and i'm finding more and more nice artists, but there also are some pretty crappy (imo) releases there
Alright, so we're discussing an album birthed and made for the idea of not only deconstruction, but destruction of a genre. It's like an active sabotage of what vaporwave is meant to be, trying to throw noise around for anyone trying to find any sight of meaning. It's something I've seen in my times of playing video games or reading books to know that artists love to mess with their audience. The creator of this album though, feels like he has to put anything that comes to mind is there. From utter nonsense noise to a sad, droning effect, it's meant to be a Rorschach Test to anyone in vaporwave. It's whatever you feel the music is, and it's a test of the phenomenology. It's predatory even. It WANTS you to, DARES you to come up with reasons to why this even would begin to make sense. It's Finnegan's Wake in audio form. Whereas vaporwave is processed and created nostalgia, Released from the World is about destroying any conception of finding that connection. As for where to go with what to do for vaporwave, there will be limits to be sure. It'll loop back around to where classic is the lost art, and whatever the future is will be it. We will be in a time like what there was before blues or jazz. Something that seems so utterly futuristic or complex to us that we just can't understand it. Smashed samples as well as a blitz of noise until you somehow force yourself to find a pattern in the insanity. it's like listening to some sort of auditory Old God that breaks your very soul just listening to it. It's a true test of musical desire or willingness to find meaning even in the most meaningless things. Just as vaporwave started out as finding meaning in the endless wash of cheaply-produced music.
Well said. The entire subculture of music that aims to ridicule, memeify and destroy the genre is just a part of it that makes it what it is, but I ignore it and I don't see the appeal.
Man, I love the comments under this video. The comparison to Joyce's Finnegan's Wake is very accurate; I fully agree with your text for these reasons, even after Joyce made this, there are still new books playing with the limits of literature, and as I said under another comment, it's not only about making pure gibberish (in literature or music), it's always related to meaning; a conceptual one of course. It seems that we are leading to a more formal vaporwave, where the richness is in the deconstruction of how the album presents itself. Released from the World (as you said) has a message, pushing us to think about the genre as a whole, even though the result might sound like pure non-sensical noise. I can't wait to see the future in this specific part of this genre, my friend.
I'd probably just call it "industrial" or "experimental" instead of "vaporwave" at this point. A lot of the more extreme artists of the genre have a lot more similarity to artists like Throbbing Gristle, Nurse With Wound, or The Caretaker.
Great video, I watched this video in the morning, listened to the album, and now I'm hooked. TBH, it isn't as Avant Garde as I thought it would be, it has a hypnagogic dreamy feel to it, much like Eccojams Vol. 1. I thought the album was going to be weirder going in, but I left with a calm head bob. This is something you have to be in the mood for. I can't listen to this unless it's later in the day, I'm resting alone, and it's room temperature. If it's too hot, cold, or early I would probably find something else. I think you scared me into thinking this was gonna be some industrial non-sense, but really, I've heard weirder. Thanks for the introduction though.
there’s a lot to unpack here and i could write a whole essay about the things that i am thinking in response to this but i’m going to try and keep it brief: 1. this album, in my mind, is very obviously and unquestionably music, from a philosophical and aesthetic standpoint. there has been too much exploration and progression in the modern classical worlds-from John Cage’s entirely silent work “4’33” to Folke Rabe’s 25-minute drone “Was??”- that have recontextualized and redefined the modern definition of music. so for an album that very clearly pulls compositional elements from past plunderphonic works (as well as literal unadulterated samples from musical works of the past) to not be also considered inherently musical would be to just write off the work of other envelope pushers who make us rethink what the definition of music is. i think the easiest way to think of this record is that it’s essentially the vaporwave equivalent of Trout Mask Replica, in that it takes the fundamental elements of the genre and deconstructs and scrambles them until it becomes a disorienting experience for anyone who has a passing familiarity with the original genre. it’s still very musical-there are tones, notes, melodies, rhythms, and intentional structures-but its artistic goal is just different from other albums in the genre. 2. i think attempting to justify enjoying this album as “irony” is overthinking things. my enjoyment of this album, as well as pretty much all the vaporwave i like, is post-ironic and sincere. for me, the genre serves as a way of separating the source material (smooth jazz, soft rock, elevator music, etc) from an environment that would normally make us cringe and, in bringing it into a digital context, helps us enjoy it for its own sake. are the techniques used to make records like Floral Shoppe and D r e a m and Computer Death revolutionary? no of course not; anyone could take an 80s song and chop it up a few times. there isn’t any sort of pretentious convoluted way to interpret these albums: we like it because it just sounds cool! Liberated From The World is one of my favorite vaporwave albums simply because the sounds that Internet Club has found and picked out are interesting and unique, and the way they are arranged is fun for me to listen to. that’s it! it doesn’t need to run that deep. i made an album under my own vaporwave project called QUONDAM VISION that is directly inspired by this record, and i believe is arranged in a similar way. i took samples from places like japanese television commercials and foreign bootleg cartoons and scrambled them in ways that i found to be interesting. it’s one of my favorite works and i enjoy it in the same way i love Liberated From The World’s fun and frantic energy.
Interesting points, but I think you are overthinking it yourself as well. Personally, I don't "like" it and I wouldn't call it music. To refer to your first point, I wouldn't call your examples music either. It's noise. There is structure, sure, but the structure is incoherent and doesn't support itself. There are two options the way I see it; It's either deliberate ironic noise, or a raw vaporwave "broken transmissions" masterpiece. I don't know. It was interesting to experience, but I will never do it again.
duodot a completely legitimate opinion for you to have. imo all music (and all art for that matter) is completely subjective and everyone’s opinion is dependent on context and their own experience. idk why but i personally go crazy for all the avant-garde post-modern stuff so i find albums like this as well as the classical stuff i cited and even the works of noise artists like merzbow and prurient to be extremely valuable in a musical and aesthetic sense. but i can totally understand if you don’t get down with it; it’s not exactly pleasurable to the ear by the conventional definition i’m sorry if it sounds like i’m talking down to you i don’t mean to be i’m just trying to get my thoughts out as clearly as i can
@nightridehome - "It’s conceptual art at best." *All* music is "conceptual art". Every piece of music is, deep down, just a concept. To say that 4'33'' is "not music" just because it has no notes is the same as saying an empty set is not a set. it's a logical absurdity, so much so that your only "argument" in its defence is an ad hominem fallacy.
The creative tendency is what I really love about vapour. In fact, it’s this fearless drive to make anything possible that is sorely missing in “Big Music”, which now - more than ever - relies largely on safe bets and “well the chart says”. It also reminds me of what I like about artists like Autechre (speaking of pushing boundaries and pissing people off). It can be off putting at first but once you get into it, you can unlock its hidden secrets. I honestly think that as long as that creative drive remains, vapour will never die.
The first audition is the unique, real shock experience. A second try and it won't sound that awful. From the third time on, you'll start to genuinely enjoy it... or not, maybe. But indeed this album was as revolutionary as the rise of Vaporwave through _Ecco Jams Vol. 1_ and _Floral Shoppe,_ the rise of Hardvapour with _Vaporwave is Dead_ or the bloom of Vapor Ambient/Dreampunk with _The Birth of a New Day._ There's nothing as good as an artist that has nothing to lose, so he/she takes the step forward.
This music genre both ironically and unironically helped me through some hard times. I look forward to seeing how far it can go. Visuals are so influential on how someone experiences music. I find myself endlessly searching for the "next".
never actually got round to listening to this , just did after this video and its great, and your review was amazing as always , please reveiw Nmesh- Pharma from 2017 a very different side to experimental vaporwave !!!
This is fairly tame in comparison to the musique Concrète avant-garde experimental electronic stuff of the 1960s and 70s, not to mention 1980s Throbbing Gristle, The Residents, and countless industrial artists. If you're looking for something weird and challenging and beautiful, may I direct your attention to Lovesliescrushing from the 1990s.
Interesting video, however I expected a slightly more general discussion and not a review of a specific album, but if it serves as the best example for your point then by all means. I have not listened to this yet. I will though, but as far as these albums that only aim to ridicule the genre or try to be thought provoking or be otherwise critical or overly experimental; I have mostly ignored them. Vaporwave was and still is a highly experimental genre, but it has found itself in the past years and is settling into a, in my opinion, neat little spot between futuristic societal commentary and nostalgic escapism. Some styles within the genre are droney, some are trappy, some are groovy and some are just straight up noise. All music relies on prediction, and in my humble opinion, the best music is music that is predictable, yet surprising. A good beat never deviates too far from itself, but sprinkles interesting soundbites and effects at regular intervals. When you can make music that scratches this need for prediction, but takes us by surprise and amazes us with a twist that somehow works, that's good music. We like rhythm. Vaporwave is no different, and it's especially easy to be predictive due to the heavy use of samples which makes the music repetitive, the solution to which was chopping, screwing and drizzling it with effects and more samples. All fine and dandy. But to make something that is arguably interesting and may surprise you, but has absolutely no prediction, is not music. It is the equivalent to avant-garde, post-modern art installations that anyone in their right mind would never come back and view regularly or buy and put in their living room, but rather exists only to shock and express some crazy idea about something probably not even the creator can grasp. So has vaporwave gone too far? No, there will never be a hard cap on what can be made musically or what will be accepted or liked and there will always be innovation. And the existence of these albums do not take that away from the rest of the genre, they're allowed to be expressive in their own right, but given that it's not music anyone would listen to for any other reason than to see how weird and crazy we can make timelines of sound, then yes, it has gone too far. It's not music any more, it's noise. Vaporwave is dead, long live vaporwave EDIT: Now having listened to this, my previous comment seems a tad prejudiced, and one could argue that this is the most raw form of vaporwave. Not me, but someone could. I expected a lot more freaky and ear-rape like music. Instead it's just badly sampled (for effect probably) loops with different speed and pitch. It adds nothing. I'd maybe be able to strech myself so far as to say track 5 and 7 are the only I'd classify as vaporwave, the rest is just noise from a broken record played through a bad AM radio. It does invoke feelings I can't explain, which is interesting, but this is not something I will ever listen to again, so my points stand.
when i listen to the internet club record i imagine aliens landed on earth decades after a terrible conflict that effectively killed all life and destroyed much of the evidence of our life and culture. the alien scientists, piecing together what they can of our instruments and any other evidence they can find, create an album meant to emulate the kind of music that humans listened and danced to when they were still around
I clicked on this specifically because of Amuro Ray's expression. I assume he's using his 'newtype' abilities and responding to a mobile-suit (mech) attack.
I remember the first time I heard it 3 years ago. I going to listen to it while going for a run, which was the usual way I'd listen to vaporwave albums. I began running, and it play. It took a second to buffer, but after a few seconds, it began. "ORUP ORUP ORUP ORUP" I turned it off almost immediately. One of the most fascinating things however, despite the fact that it's a bizarre sound collage that might even be called, "lazy," is that it keeps drawing me back in. This harsh, lo-fi, trashy album that barely resembles anything artistic is addicting.
I think it would be cool if someone would make a new genre of music called Classic Vaporwave, or something along those lines. The goal would be to have Vaporwave music that sounds like the early Vaporwave albums.
Since the earliest beginnings of the vaporware genre we've had album pushing the sound further beyond and creating sub genres, experimenting with the aesthetic. Vaporware was always this extremely ironic genre with no real bounds, I feel like this album encapsulates that to the core. But this definitely isn't as far as a genre can be pushed.
Blank Banshee is hands down the most phenomenal vaporwave artist out there. The more you listen to his songs, the more dynamic expressions you pick up.
Great video Pad! I'm so happy you covered this album, as it is definitely one of the most interesting and thought provoking releases that have come out of this genre. For me personally, this album is one of the bleakest, loneliest and darkest experiences you can have with vaporwave. I find it relaxing to listen to while studying, traveling or doing anything else really. This is how I imagine a future sentient android's mind would sound if it was completely corrupted and broken beyond any reparations. I would highly recommend anyone to listen to this thing at least once, and also read the Sunbleach article about it.
Love you Chad but have you ever listened to Stockhausen or Xenakis? Vaporwave can never be that kind of modernist 'too much' when those boundaries are already drawn
Vaporwave comment sections are always the most positive. It's like everyone is on E. It's cool, guess it's the vibe. But it just chills everyone out. I like the music at work.
Love the videos man. You should do a video on shimma33 museum. I feel like that one has gone under radar. The backstory that was originally posted on Dreamcat was really something. Anyways, keep making these.
An album that only so many people have been able to listen to? Catsystem Corp's Consumer Recreation Services seems to fit that bill. I can't find it anywhere.
I kind of see this as a continued version of the experiments Oval was doing with glitch in the mid 90s but with a more contemporary base. Familiar noises are being altered to fuel enigmatic and hypnagogic soundscapes and loops that challenge what was previously held as dominant. It can absolutely be considered music in the sense that it's blatantly trying to subvert and forward music through absurd practices.
Idk I feel like it could get to a very high level to the point where you actually can’t listen to it . One question tho I really liked this type of vaporwave does it really count as “music” because I find myself to enjoy it for some reason ??
▣世界から解放され▣ - ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░ has been my favorite vaporwave album since it was originally free to download on the old Internet Club website (which is no longer available.) Even though you hated it, it's still great to hear someone mention it. No publicity is bad publicity as they say ; )
"Subconsciously pretentious music goers" Never before have a single phrase defined so precisely such a large number of people from so many different communities and backgrounds. Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not a subconsciously pretentious music goer myself, I actually do everything in my power to be as consciously pretentious as possible.
Looking for Vaperwave Tapes and Records - sold out... sold out.... sold out.... sold out.... :O Maybe Vaporwave has been caught up in its own Consumerism?
I listen to stuff like this unironically and I generally show nobody because I know it will not go over well, but I don’t care. I grew up during the dawn of music streaming, social media, and RUclips stardom. I first heard of this album on /mu/ back in 2012, so I was 14 years old, the age when music is usually not consumed ironically or purposefully, but actually does inform the personality legitimately and wholeheartedly. It’s a very strange situation.
Sun, Sea and Surfing/Late Night Delight etc are pretty much the kind of catchy vaporwave I'm obsessed with I can't get into the really experimental basically vapornoise stuff
Speaking of a song that is in pieces and has to be built up, have you heard of the Flaming Lips’ parking lot experiments? Before they started working on The Soft Bulletin, when they were struggling to find their sound, they hosted some events where they’d have a song that was split up onto dozens of tapes. They’d have a bunch of people come together in a parking lot and play the tapes in their cars’ tape decks, hoping to sync them up. They then released a home version, Zaireeka, that was a handful of songs split up across 4 CDs, meant to be played simultaneously on four different CD players.
I was kinda curious as to why this style sounded so familiar to me, but upon remembering this after relistening to a lot of what we have of the band again, it reminds me a fair bit of Five Starcle Men, or at least some parts remind me of their music lol
After watching this video I went into this album expecting some sort of disturbing hard to grasp arca mutant sort of piece. I Was a bit disappointed to find out it felt like each song was a 5 second loop played at different speeds, the first and last song just reminded me of old RUclips poops where people would take that one clip from the Mario cartoon and play it over and over again just at different speeds and filters
This video helped me discover this album and I just mindlessly listened to it 3 times through. Its so bad and weird yet so replayable to my ears and can’t explain why. urap urap urap urap urap urap urap
I just listened to a little bit of Liberated From the World and it's basically like a Merzbow album but without the white noise, distortion, and feedback.
Hey, your link in the description to the "I'll Try Living Like This" video goes to the video editor, not the watch page. This is pretty cool album, one of my favourites in the Vaporwave genre. If you're interested in even weirder music then check out stuff like electroacoustic music, harsh noise, and free improvisation music. That's the stuff that really blasted apart my conception of what music is.
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Mr. Ocean that's exactly what I thought of lol
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There's nothing more controversial or rich in discussion than _whether_ something's art or not.
Vaporwave is just....man, it's got so much to it, both seriously and ironically.
i say vaporwave should go FARTHER
it should go the FARTHEST
IT SHOULD GO FARTHER THAN THE FARTHEST
IT SHOULD GO ALL THE WAY
AND THEN SOME
YES
No, it hasn’t gone far enough.
preaccchhh
how about now
4 years later
@@cptnmochi need more
@@VeeeeeryDisturbing understandable, in that case we'll have to continue the experiment 🫡
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I love how weird this genre is, it only makes me want to explore further.
Slowed and chopped versions of 80s and 90s songs that not all too many people listen to: Vaporwave
Video of Bart Simpson with a VHS effect while slowed down XXTENTACION Plays: Not vaporwave, but normies think it is.
Exactly
As someone who loves sound collages (Revolution 9 by the Beatles, Montage of Heck by Kurt Cobain, etc.) I love the concept of Floral Shoppe 2 and Liberated. Vapor-collage is a subgenre I wanna see more tbh.
Floral Shoppe was the peak of artsy sample-based vaporwave. It wasn't unique (John Oswald was doing stuff exactly like this in the late 80s-early 90s) But it still sounds unique and entertaining.
I think Montage of Heck is the only sound collage type thing I could ever listen to, I really only bought it for the demos though.
UNKNOWNGAM3r that album isn’t the actual Montage of Heck. (It’s named after it. Here’s the actual Montage of Heck: ruclips.net/video/3cwotPLa_Jk/видео.html )
Uncle Squiddz
Oh yeah, that one. I have a bootleg of that. It's only the first half of the tape, the other half also has demos on it.
UNKNOWNGAM3r nice
So Vaporwave has entered the realm of Modern Classical music? Those have become so experimental and obscure, some people question if it is just noise. One performance I had the privilege of attending was just a guy rubbing 15 different cowbells with rubber for 20 minutes. It was loud chaos. Another was sextet where everyone played random notes at random time signatures.
I don't know if most vapour wave is composed, per se, in same way Avant Garde classical composers write music. I'm only well-informed about LP's released in the 1950's-70's(Stockhausen, Xenakis, P. Henry, J. Cage, Luc Ferrari, E. Varese, Ligeti, etc.); many of them are more bugged out than anything I could envisage in the vapour genres.
There is to me an overlap of Aesthetics between them, imo.
@@shannonm.townsend1232 Ligeti is possibly my fave composer. You know there's a version of his opera "The Grand Macabre" on youtube? It's in my top 5 operas, and it's definitely the funniest I've ever seen,
contemporary classical music is more than just post-tonal, performance art and avant garde stuff Minimalism has some amazing melodic work (check out Glassworks by Phillip Glass or In C by Terry Riley) and continues to influence film scores. guys like John Luther Adams are creating gorgeous soundscapes (check out Become Ocean). David Bruce (who has a YT channel) makes amazing, listenable music firmly in the tonal world (check out Gumboots). Hate this "LOLDAE CLASSIKUL MUSIK IS STUCKHOZEN" myth that goes around in some circles,
I hope vapor-wave never dies
P o o p e r S c o o p e r ' 9 9 Death is rebirth. I hope it dies many times only to be risen from the ashes.
Dylan C you're right, there can always be many sub generes of Vaporwave and new ones can be created
P o o p e r S c o o p e r ' 9 9 That's why I love it so much. It's constantly being reinvented. If only we could get rid of the vaporwave police who love to say "that's not real vaporwave" as if that means anything.
Dylan C yeah, I'm so glad I discovered it 2 years ago and I feel like it impacted my life as well
What is dead may never die
That's my favorite vaporwave album, it feels very sincere and exhibits far more restraint than people give it credit for. I don't think its very "ironic" as you say, it just uses unpredictability to give a sense of unease combined with the normal vaporwave nostalgia.
Is it honestly you favorite? If so that's interesting. It may not be made ironically, but the bandcamp page exhibits nothing else than a careless and ironic vibe to me. I will agree it shows more restraint than it's credited for, it could easily be even more absurd and surreal, but I get no nostalgic or other tangible feelings at all, just poignant disappointment.
i kinda like it too. im kinda sad that it was over in just 19 minuits. wonder if i brought it i would get more.
copy and pasting the same sample is sincere? more like sadistic.
"Sincere"? in what way... how? this was probably made in an hour in audacity. just because something sounds "sincere" doesn't instantly make it good. it should have atleast some form of effort or anything that gives it objective worth to go along with it.
objectivity is a sham
no.........
Maybe?
This just sounds like 90's DIgital Hardcore without the excessive breaks.
vaporware is a middle figure to musical theory, and that's why we love it.
with all due respect, is this really that harsh, noisy, or weird, though? we've been doing even weirder shit since the 70s and 80s - throbbing gristle in the 70s and early 80s, coil at some of their weird moments - and then the entire power electronics and harsh noise scene that sprung up afterwards? that's all music, even if people think fans are "pretentious" - they aren't; not necessarily. For example, I like feedback. by itself. its ecstatic. I have no pretensions about it, I just /like it./
This sort of vaporwave - broken transmission type stuff - isn't really new or that avantgarde in comparison to what I just suggested, but it's good. it's wonderful.
Everything has the potential to be music if we experience it that way. nothing is "just noise." You cannot go too far.
(that said, I think Infinity Frequencies does this sound better
Pandable “coil at their weird moments” hahahah I didn’t know those two ever had normal moments
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah lol
I guess I meant "horse rotorvator" as normal and "gold is the metal" as weird :p
I said gold is the metal but I meant constant shallowness leads to evil. i'm tired
It goes back farther than that. The tape music of the 40s is something of a spiritual ancestor, and that stuff makes this album sound like top 40 radio
musique concrete? I love what i've heard but it hasn't been a lot
I actually do enjoy this album sometimes, especially when i go to sleep. I put the album on low volume and than it becomes pretty relaxing. The sub genre for this is Broken transmission and there are some more albums associated with this sound
Anyone else just come here because they recognized a screenshot from Mobile Suit Gundam?
Calvin_Coolage yeah 😂😂
Yes, saw Amuro and clicked. Recognizing images and wanting to find the original music of samples used is the only reason I have a passing interest in Vaporware.
That's why I'm here too
I thought it was Speed Racer.
Because vaporwave album cover art
This discussion reminds me of an unusual album called :Most Unwanted Music." It was composed in 1997 based on a survey stating the repsondant's favorite and least favorite types of music.
I listened to it about a dozen times; it is so crazy and chaotic it may as well be a spiritual predecessor to the vaporwave genre.
Sounds interesting. gotta check it out.
Came for Amuro on the cover. Stayed for commentary. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but that might have been Amuro's berserk scene.....not sure now.
seki108 Same. I can't remember where precisely that screen comes from.
No, wait, I think it might actually be from when Lalah dies and Amuro sees her Newtype ghost. The reflections in his eyes look kinda like her floating away.
1:02 Using Amuro Ray as the cover art for that album may be one of the most fitting things considering how the narrative of Mobile Suit Gundam follows a 14 year old boy thrown into war to pilot a giant war robot that his father build. Not to mention all of the themes in that series that have to do with mental manipulation and human experimentation, which continues into Zeta Gundam. A particular character, Four Murasame, was an artificial newtype that suffered from migraines for the majority we saw her on screen in Zeta Gundam. I now know the anguish she must of felt because even listening to a smidgen of that album made me feel like I would need to drown in a bottle of excedrin. I have a friend who puts out music under the title of Vomitronic, and I have to say that ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░ has easily gone to another level of indescribable structure or lack there of. It's not to say it's a heaping pile of absolute garbage, because music is ultimately subjective (except country music, which should be removed from Earth).
I don't think most people are ready for the Cyber-Newtype music.
Though some may be...
This album is no Zaku boy, NO ZAKU!
This is only the beginning
I unironically love this album, its my favorite Vaporwave album.
Who would win?
An entire underground genre loved and supported by millions?
Or
Exactly one vaporwave artist boi?
Hey Pad, great video so far! I've found out about the album in "top 50 vaporwave albums" which lists it as the third best after Vaporwave is Dead and Vaporwave Is Dead Again. I definitely didn't like it (just as the other two) but i found it quite interesting as a musical critique and "thinkpiece" i guess, idk if the dude was ironic or he genuinely liked it. It's too abrasive for me i think. Cheers my dude!
Yokai it should be "top 100 vaporwave albums"
awf dwa yeah, that's a great list. I'm diggin most of the albums there and i'm finding more and more nice artists, but there also are some pretty crappy (imo) releases there
Alright, so we're discussing an album birthed and made for the idea of not only deconstruction, but destruction of a genre. It's like an active sabotage of what vaporwave is meant to be, trying to throw noise around for anyone trying to find any sight of meaning. It's something I've seen in my times of playing video games or reading books to know that artists love to mess with their audience. The creator of this album though, feels like he has to put anything that comes to mind is there. From utter nonsense noise to a sad, droning effect, it's meant to be a Rorschach Test to anyone in vaporwave. It's whatever you feel the music is, and it's a test of the phenomenology. It's predatory even. It WANTS you to, DARES you to come up with reasons to why this even would begin to make sense. It's Finnegan's Wake in audio form. Whereas vaporwave is processed and created nostalgia, Released from the World is about destroying any conception of finding that connection.
As for where to go with what to do for vaporwave, there will be limits to be sure. It'll loop back around to where classic is the lost art, and whatever the future is will be it. We will be in a time like what there was before blues or jazz. Something that seems so utterly futuristic or complex to us that we just can't understand it. Smashed samples as well as a blitz of noise until you somehow force yourself to find a pattern in the insanity. it's like listening to some sort of auditory Old God that breaks your very soul just listening to it. It's a true test of musical desire or willingness to find meaning even in the most meaningless things. Just as vaporwave started out as finding meaning in the endless wash of cheaply-produced music.
Well said. The entire subculture of music that aims to ridicule, memeify and destroy the genre is just a part of it that makes it what it is, but I ignore it and I don't see the appeal.
Man, I love the comments under this video. The comparison to Joyce's Finnegan's Wake is very accurate; I fully agree with your text for these reasons, even after Joyce made this, there are still new books playing with the limits of literature, and as I said under another comment, it's not only about making pure gibberish (in literature or music), it's always related to meaning; a conceptual one of course. It seems that we are leading to a more formal vaporwave, where the richness is in the deconstruction of how the album presents itself. Released from the World (as you said) has a message, pushing us to think about the genre as a whole, even though the result might sound like pure non-sensical noise. I can't wait to see the future in this specific part of this genre, my friend.
I'd probably just call it "industrial" or "experimental" instead of "vaporwave" at this point.
A lot of the more extreme artists of the genre have a lot more similarity to artists like Throbbing Gristle, Nurse With Wound, or The Caretaker.
Great video, I watched this video in the morning, listened to the album, and now I'm hooked. TBH, it isn't as Avant Garde as I thought it would be, it has a hypnagogic dreamy feel to it, much like Eccojams Vol. 1. I thought the album was going to be weirder going in, but I left with a calm head bob. This is something you have to be in the mood for. I can't listen to this unless it's later in the day, I'm resting alone, and it's room temperature. If it's too hot, cold, or early I would probably find something else.
I think you scared me into thinking this was gonna be some industrial non-sense, but really, I've heard weirder. Thanks for the introduction though.
Is that a vaporwave cover with Amuro From Gundam on the album or did he just use that as a thumbnail?
I’m 2 years late but yeah that’s the album cover.. and he talks about it in the video
there’s a lot to unpack here and i could write a whole essay about the things that i am thinking in response to this but i’m going to try and keep it brief:
1. this album, in my mind, is very obviously and unquestionably music, from a philosophical and aesthetic standpoint. there has been too much exploration and progression in the modern classical worlds-from John Cage’s entirely silent work “4’33” to Folke Rabe’s 25-minute drone “Was??”- that have recontextualized and redefined the modern definition of music. so for an album that very clearly pulls compositional elements from past plunderphonic works (as well as literal unadulterated samples from musical works of the past) to not be also considered inherently musical would be to just write off the work of other envelope pushers who make us rethink what the definition of music is. i think the easiest way to think of this record is that it’s essentially the vaporwave equivalent of Trout Mask Replica, in that it takes the fundamental elements of the genre and deconstructs and scrambles them until it becomes a disorienting experience for anyone who has a passing familiarity with the original genre. it’s still very musical-there are tones, notes, melodies, rhythms, and intentional structures-but its artistic goal is just different from other albums in the genre.
2. i think attempting to justify enjoying this album as “irony” is overthinking things. my enjoyment of this album, as well as pretty much all the vaporwave i like, is post-ironic and sincere. for me, the genre serves as a way of separating the source material (smooth jazz, soft rock, elevator music, etc) from an environment that would normally make us cringe and, in bringing it into a digital context, helps us enjoy it for its own sake. are the techniques used to make records like Floral Shoppe and D r e a m and Computer Death revolutionary? no of course not; anyone could take an 80s song and chop it up a few times. there isn’t any sort of pretentious convoluted way to interpret these albums: we like it because it just sounds cool! Liberated From The World is one of my favorite vaporwave albums simply because the sounds that Internet Club has found and picked out are interesting and unique, and the way they are arranged is fun for me to listen to. that’s it! it doesn’t need to run that deep.
i made an album under my own vaporwave project called QUONDAM VISION that is directly inspired by this record, and i believe is arranged in a similar way. i took samples from places like japanese television commercials and foreign bootleg cartoons and scrambled them in ways that i found to be interesting. it’s one of my favorite works and i enjoy it in the same way i love Liberated From The World’s fun and frantic energy.
Interesting points, but I think you are overthinking it yourself as well. Personally, I don't "like" it and I wouldn't call it music. To refer to your first point, I wouldn't call your examples music either. It's noise. There is structure, sure, but the structure is incoherent and doesn't support itself.
There are two options the way I see it; It's either deliberate ironic noise, or a raw vaporwave "broken transmissions" masterpiece. I don't know. It was interesting to experience, but I will never do it again.
duodot a completely legitimate opinion for you to have. imo all music (and all art for that matter) is completely subjective and everyone’s opinion is dependent on context and their own experience. idk why but i personally go crazy for all the avant-garde post-modern stuff so i find albums like this as well as the classical stuff i cited and even the works of noise artists like merzbow and prurient to be extremely valuable in a musical and aesthetic sense. but i can totally understand if you don’t get down with it; it’s not exactly pleasurable to the ear by the conventional definition
i’m sorry if it sounds like i’m talking down to you i don’t mean to be i’m just trying to get my thoughts out as clearly as i can
@nightridehome - "It’s conceptual art at best."
*All* music is "conceptual art". Every piece of music is, deep down, just a concept. To say that 4'33'' is "not music" just because it has no notes is the same as saying an empty set is not a set. it's a logical absurdity, so much so that your only "argument" in its defence is an ad hominem fallacy.
THIS ALBUM NEEDS A VINYL RELEASE
How would you know if the record is stuck and when it's playing normally?
duodot That's half the fun
The record should not be stuck unless you are handling your records wrong.
goes great with a pulse demon vinyl!
The creative tendency is what I really love about vapour. In fact, it’s this fearless drive to make anything possible that is sorely missing in “Big Music”, which now - more than ever - relies largely on safe bets and “well the chart says”. It also reminds me of what I like about artists like Autechre (speaking of pushing boundaries and pissing people off). It can be off putting at first but once you get into it, you can unlock its hidden secrets. I honestly think that as long as that creative drive remains, vapour will never die.
have you reviewed the genre "progressive vegetarian grindcore ? definitely a personal favorite...
me: fuck, i should get some sleep its 1 in the morning
pad uploads:
me: well guess am staying up a little longer, fuck
Not as ironic as ひどく翻訳日本語の文字 by ░▒▓【ALL CAPS AND αւτ kεÿ CΘᕸEᔕ™】░▒▓
ベービー ベービー ベービー おおおおおおおおおぉぉぉぉぉぉぉ
The first audition is the unique, real shock experience. A second try and it won't sound that awful. From the third time on, you'll start to genuinely enjoy it... or not, maybe. But indeed this album was as revolutionary as the rise of Vaporwave through _Ecco Jams Vol. 1_ and _Floral Shoppe,_ the rise of Hardvapour with _Vaporwave is Dead_ or the bloom of Vapor Ambient/Dreampunk with _The Birth of a New Day._
There's nothing as good as an artist that has nothing to lose, so he/she takes the step forward.
This music genre both ironically and unironically helped me through some hard times. I look forward to seeing how far it can go. Visuals are so influential on how someone experiences music. I find myself endlessly searching for the "next".
never actually got round to listening to this , just did after this video and its great, and your review was amazing as always , please reveiw Nmesh- Pharma from 2017 a very different side to experimental vaporwave !!!
This is fairly tame in comparison to the musique Concrète avant-garde experimental electronic stuff of the 1960s and 70s, not to mention 1980s Throbbing Gristle, The Residents, and countless industrial artists. If you're looking for something weird and challenging and beautiful, may I direct your attention to Lovesliescrushing from the 1990s.
Interesting video, however I expected a slightly more general discussion and not a review of a specific album, but if it serves as the best example for your point then by all means. I have not listened to this yet. I will though, but as far as these albums that only aim to ridicule the genre or try to be thought provoking or be otherwise critical or overly experimental; I have mostly ignored them.
Vaporwave was and still is a highly experimental genre, but it has found itself in the past years and is settling into a, in my opinion, neat little spot between futuristic societal commentary and nostalgic escapism. Some styles within the genre are droney, some are trappy, some are groovy and some are just straight up noise.
All music relies on prediction, and in my humble opinion, the best music is music that is predictable, yet surprising. A good beat never deviates too far from itself, but sprinkles interesting soundbites and effects at regular intervals. When you can make music that scratches this need for prediction, but takes us by surprise and amazes us with a twist that somehow works, that's good music. We like rhythm.
Vaporwave is no different, and it's especially easy to be predictive due to the heavy use of samples which makes the music repetitive, the solution to which was chopping, screwing and drizzling it with effects and more samples. All fine and dandy.
But to make something that is arguably interesting and may surprise you, but has absolutely no prediction, is not music. It is the equivalent to avant-garde, post-modern art installations that anyone in their right mind would never come back and view regularly or buy and put in their living room, but rather exists only to shock and express some crazy idea about something probably not even the creator can grasp.
So has vaporwave gone too far? No, there will never be a hard cap on what can be made musically or what will be accepted or liked and there will always be innovation. And the existence of these albums do not take that away from the rest of the genre, they're allowed to be expressive in their own right, but given that it's not music anyone would listen to for any other reason than to see how weird and crazy we can make timelines of sound, then yes, it has gone too far. It's not music any more, it's noise.
Vaporwave is dead, long live vaporwave
EDIT:
Now having listened to this, my previous comment seems a tad prejudiced, and one could argue that this is the most raw form of vaporwave. Not me, but someone could. I expected a lot more freaky and ear-rape like music. Instead it's just badly sampled (for effect probably) loops with different speed and pitch. It adds nothing. I'd maybe be able to strech myself so far as to say track 5 and 7 are the only I'd classify as vaporwave, the rest is just noise from a broken record played through a bad AM radio. It does invoke feelings I can't explain, which is interesting, but this is not something I will ever listen to again, so my points stand.
when i listen to the internet club record i imagine aliens landed on earth decades after a terrible conflict that effectively killed all life and destroyed much of the evidence of our life and culture. the alien scientists, piecing together what they can of our instruments and any other evidence they can find, create an album meant to emulate the kind of music that humans listened and danced to when they were still around
I don’t even know if I’d categorize it as vapor but gorsh it’s exciting. Love the new thumbnails by the way!
2:56 - 3:01 was used in "Tutorial: How to Uninstall Finobe"
Has vaporwave gone too far?
No. It can go farther.
First song in that album just goes “brra” over and over again with some pitch changes
next up: hard vapor
Vaporcore
Noobs: Vaporwave - Floral Shop 2
Vets: Broken transmission///Signal wave
I clicked on this specifically because of Amuro Ray's expression. I assume he's using his 'newtype' abilities and responding to a mobile-suit (mech) attack.
It's December 2nd 2021
Remember, vaporwave will be a style of life
I remember the first time I heard it 3 years ago. I going to listen to it while going for a run, which was the usual way I'd listen to vaporwave albums. I began running, and it play. It took a second to buffer, but after a few seconds, it began.
"ORUP ORUP ORUP ORUP"
I turned it off almost immediately.
One of the most fascinating things however, despite the fact that it's a bizarre sound collage that might even be called, "lazy," is that it keeps drawing me back in. This harsh, lo-fi, trashy album that barely resembles anything artistic is addicting.
I think it would be cool if someone would make a new genre of music called Classic Vaporwave, or something along those lines. The goal would be to have Vaporwave music that sounds like the early Vaporwave albums.
Since the earliest beginnings of the vaporware genre we've had album pushing the sound further beyond and creating sub genres, experimenting with the aesthetic.
Vaporware was always this extremely ironic genre with no real bounds, I feel like this album encapsulates that to the core.
But this definitely isn't as far as a genre can be pushed.
Ride the spiral to the end, we may just go where no one's been.
A L O N E
This was the video you almost...almost understood Vaporwave. Good job, Pad!
SOMEONE HASNT LISTENED TO VAPORNOISE
What are some vapornoise albums
Blank Banshee is hands down the most phenomenal vaporwave artist out there. The more you listen to his songs, the more dynamic expressions you pick up.
Great video Pad! I'm so happy you covered this album, as it is definitely one of the most interesting and thought provoking releases that have come out of this genre.
For me personally, this album is one of the bleakest, loneliest and darkest experiences you can have with vaporwave. I find it relaxing to listen to while studying, traveling or doing anything else really. This is how I imagine a future sentient android's mind would sound if it was completely corrupted and broken beyond any reparations.
I would highly recommend anyone to listen to this thing at least once, and also read the Sunbleach article about it.
Great video as always, but isn't New Deluxe Life an alias of Internet Club and The Darkest Future an alias of HKE?
Russell Kilpatrick Indeed it is.
Yeah, you're right.
god, i remember just a few months back, you have 400 subs. just goes to show how great your channel is honestly
Vaporwave is still in the beginning of his evolution!!!
Pad, you are doing gods work over here. You have no idea how happy I am that you adressed this album and the irony behind it !
Love you Chad but have you ever listened to Stockhausen or Xenakis? Vaporwave can never be that kind of modernist 'too much' when those boundaries are already drawn
I assure you that you put in more work in this video than the majority of producers have in their vaporwave tracks
My ears were begging to die after listening to this. Mostly because I had the volume all the way up.
That face is Amuro Ray from Mobile Suit Gundam
Good eye
Vaporwave comment sections are always the most positive. It's like everyone is on E. It's cool, guess it's the vibe. But it just chills everyone out. I like the music at work.
Love the videos man. You should do a video on shimma33 museum. I feel like that one has gone under radar. The backstory that was originally posted on Dreamcat was really something. Anyways, keep making these.
An album that only so many people have been able to listen to? Catsystem Corp's Consumer Recreation Services seems to fit that bill. I can't find it anywhere.
Please help me find it.
New to the channel and new to the vapor wave scene but I'm glad came across this video 👍
this might just be the vaporwave channel i didn't know i needed, thank you
I kind of see this as a continued version of the experiments Oval was doing with glitch in the mid 90s but with a more contemporary base. Familiar noises are being altered to fuel enigmatic and hypnagogic soundscapes and loops that challenge what was previously held as dominant. It can absolutely be considered music in the sense that it's blatantly trying to subvert and forward music through absurd practices.
Never too far I think vaporwave can take it even to a higher level !
w h a t s n e x t? ? ?
Idk I feel like it could get to a very high level to the point where you actually can’t listen to it . One question tho I really liked this type of vaporwave does it really count as “music” because I find myself to enjoy it for some reason ??
▣世界から解放され▣ - ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░ has been my favorite vaporwave album since it was originally free to download on the old Internet Club website (which is no longer available.) Even though you hated it, it's still great to hear someone mention it. No publicity is bad publicity as they say ; )
The weirdness and uniqueness of this album is being massively overstated in this video.
"Subconsciously pretentious music goers" Never before have a single phrase defined so precisely such a large number of people from so many different communities and backgrounds.
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not a subconsciously pretentious music goer myself, I actually do everything in my power to be as consciously pretentious as possible.
Looking for Vaperwave Tapes and Records - sold out... sold out.... sold out.... sold out.... :O Maybe Vaporwave has been caught up in its own Consumerism?
I listen to stuff like this unironically and I generally show nobody because I know it will not go over well, but I don’t care. I grew up during the dawn of music streaming, social media, and RUclips stardom. I first heard of this album on /mu/ back in 2012, so I was 14 years old, the age when music is usually not consumed ironically or purposefully, but actually does inform the personality legitimately and wholeheartedly. It’s a very strange situation.
Sun, Sea and Surfing/Late Night Delight etc are pretty much the kind of catchy vaporwave I'm obsessed with
I can't get into the really experimental basically vapornoise stuff
this is one of my favorite videos of yours.
Speaking of a song that is in pieces and has to be built up, have you heard of the Flaming Lips’ parking lot experiments? Before they started working on The Soft Bulletin, when they were struggling to find their sound, they hosted some events where they’d have a song that was split up onto dozens of tapes. They’d have a bunch of people come together in a parking lot and play the tapes in their cars’ tape decks, hoping to sync them up. They then released a home version, Zaireeka, that was a handful of songs split up across 4 CDs, meant to be played simultaneously on four different CD players.
It's the "Everywhere At The End Of Time" of vaporwave.
"5 years ago"
have you heard merzbow?
edit: I recommend his album Pulse Demon.
I was kinda curious as to why this style sounded so familiar to me, but upon remembering this after relistening to a lot of what we have of the band again, it reminds me a fair bit of Five Starcle Men, or at least some parts remind me of their music lol
After watching this video I went into this album expecting some sort of disturbing hard to grasp arca mutant sort of piece. I Was a bit disappointed to find out it felt like each song was a 5 second loop played at different speeds, the first and last song just reminded me of old RUclips poops where people would take that one clip from the Mario cartoon and play it over and over again just at different speeds and filters
Vaporwave: And this... This is to go, even, FURTHER *BEYOND*
Interesting video ! Love it !
Woo is that amaro ray from gundam in the cover
RadXL711 Reviews Sure is.
Amuro needs more love
Oh this is from 5 years ago...
And was behind the times then
It's like what Gabe Lewis says in The Office, "Maybe the filmmaker realized that even narrative is comforting."
This video helped me discover this album and I just mindlessly listened to it 3 times through. Its so bad and weird yet so replayable to my ears and can’t explain why.
urap urap urap urap urap urap urap
I just listened to a little bit of Liberated From the World and it's basically like a Merzbow album but without the white noise, distortion, and feedback.
1:08 i love the drum here.
Its so cool
The fact that internet club just disappeared after releasing this album makes it even more mysterious
they were liberated from the world
Music is all about expression. New Deluxe is the Trout Mask Replica of Vaporwave.
At this point vaporwave will never die. It'll just eat its own tail over and over.
I love how Amuro Ray's face is on the front cover of the album. Amuro Ray from Mobile Suit Gundam. I love this kind of art house kind of music.
6:41 hold up my boy, Pad. I think you mightve just found a sample of that track. 🤔
This is the sample: ruclips.net/video/MgDzmTj5tSM/видео.html
Hey, your link in the description to the "I'll Try Living Like This" video goes to the video editor, not the watch page.
This is pretty cool album, one of my favourites in the Vaporwave genre. If you're interested in even weirder music then check out stuff like electroacoustic music, harsh noise, and free improvisation music. That's the stuff that really blasted apart my conception of what music is.
I listen to a lot of obscure music like boards of Canada biosphere windows96 aphex twins
I love them
I remember when New Wave was actually new. Vaporwave is simply another wave on an ocean of music genres, generations and generations old.