Interesting fact I learned not long ago. Even though Denmark has some of the best abort laws regarding the choice for the women, not many women are taking it. Why? Experts point to the fact that Denmark are really good at educate teenagers at schools of different kind of protection and risks, but also have an easy acces to prevent pregnancy in the first place.
I’m danish and I have chosen abortion at one point because that was the only right thing for me at that point in my life. The key here is…MY LIFE. In Denmark you don’t have to justify your choice with anything up until week 12 of your pregnancy. You go to the doctor and get referred to the hospital. Here you get a scan to ensure that the pregnancy is in the right place. Then you are asked to chose between a medical solution with pills our an operation under full anaesthesia. You as a women are treated with full respect and care at all time from absolutely everyone. Between week 12-20 you can get an abortion approved if the baby is to sick to survive, you become to sick, you where raped and haven’t told it to anyone before now etc. An other important thing is that sex is something we talk about. Both parents, kids and teachers. They are thought in school how to protect them self and girls will in many cases get birth control pills from an early age. 1. To protect her from being a young mum. A kid should be a kid as long as possible, 2 because sex is not shameful! You just have to protect your self! I have 3 kids now! With my boys i talk about they why they have to treat women and be aware of there body language. An no don’t have to be said out loud to be a now. We also discuss condoms as an natural thing. 2 with me girl we discuss how to say no and to protect them self. We teach them and show them a way as a responsible parent. If my kids gets pregnant ant any point in there life and wants an abortion then I will be right at there sides all the way.
I completely agree. And I think most would agree it just doesn’t make the mainstream media on either side. Too bad we can’t say my body my choice for experimental forced jabs where you must show your papers of being fully vaccinated.
@@patchworklove totally agree. I also think some people that simply don’t want abortion used as birth control get misrepresented as thinking all abortions are evil and unjustified period, and on the flip side people that aren’t pro life get made out to love abortion as if they are advocating to use it as birth control.
I am from sweden. Scandinavia does a good job of giving education about sex and protecting yourself. Also birth control is free or almost free. So easier to protect yourself. We also aren't as religious.
In 2018 I had a septic pregnancy . God knows how but the baby was inside me not alive for 2 whole months and no one from the hospital called me back in to sort it out . Even though they had told me that the baby’s heart beat was gone . They told me to wait and then come back . One night I became unresponsive and luckily my neighbour found me and called the ambulance. If I wouldn’t of gone in that night I would of been dead . It took two surgeries and two weeks in hospital to recover 😔
A septic pregnancy infamously killed Savita Halappanavar in 2012. She was denied legal access to a safe abortion even though her child, which she _wanted,_ was already dead inside of her. One of the _many_ reasons why this medical procedure should remain _legal_ and _safe._ Thank goodness you're still alive, Sophie! I'm tremendously sorry for you loss, _honestly,_ but I'm _happy_ you're okay in the very least and I hope you _safely_ have some beautiful children in the future! Take care!
i am pro choice, and one thing i always say to pro life people whom i am debating with is that YOU don’t have to get abortion if you don’t want to/don’t agree with it. but you shouldn’t 1. have the right to make decisions over someone else’s life or body and 2. make someone feel horrible or disgusting because they had an abortion. nobody WANTS an abortion. but when they decide to do so, they shouldn’t be treated like criminals. it’s a very difficult thing to experience.
I think it's interesting you think people don't have a say over someone else's life or body. But your fine with them having a say on whether the child gets to have a life or body.... Double standard. Abortion is murder. You can't justify it
@@courtneycarlisle182 Taking the life of a fully grown adult who already has a life, family, friends, etc. is COMPLETELY different from terminating the pregnancy of an underdeveloped fetus. Stabbing someone to death is murder. You can call abortion murder all you want, but it really just doesn’t make sense. You don’t have to agree with abortion, but stop making people feel like sh*t because they had one.
@@halebopp4747 If i understand your question correctly, i don’t think people who have been raped and impregnated should be forced to have that baby. They shouldn’t have that forced upon them and should have the option for abortion if wanted.
My wife got so much abuse for going to a clinic where they perform abortions. She was picking ME up after I had had a vasectomy performed at the clinic (Marie Stopes Manchester)
I’m from the city where Savita lived. We hold vigils for her every year. I can’t put into words how moving it is every single time. I don’t think Ireland hasn’t been the same since her passing
I live in Dublin as well, I remember that case. That poor woman died in absolute agony for the sake of draconian Catholic belief. It was awful and utterly embarrassing for the Irish government and hse. It's a shame that's what it took for people to wake up and get the clergy out of medicine and state.
I’m Pro-life but her case is different because she was already having a miscarriage and her life was in danger, in those circumstances I think an abortion is ethical.
@@nate2759 There's nothing different, she requested a medical procedure for herself and a government & a religion denied her the right to save herself. There's nothing ethical about that situation.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g if men had to carry the child abortion wouldn't even be a question. You want to control women's bodies. If you don't want a parasite in your body growing you get medicine to prevent and take care of curing it. A fetus is no different. We are overpopulated with millions if not billions in poverty, starving and unloved. If you believe it's murder, go sign up to adopt thousands of unwanted babies being born. Pay for their care. Oh no? Don't want to? Then shut the fuck up and keep your opinion to yourself.
I live in Poland, where the anti-abortion law is insanely restrictive, to the point you pretty much can't get it at all. Just a couple of months ago a lady died at the hospital because her water broke prematurely, the fetus was dying but its heart was still beating so the hospital did nothing and she died of sepsis. They did nothing, they left her to die in the hospital bed. Her name was Izabela and she was from Pszczyna. It's heartbreaking and scary to think that you can go to the emergency room, your life is in danger but you're not given the help you need because... what? Why?
Its terrible. No woman needs to be pregnant if she doesnt want to, like no woman needs to be forced to abort if she dont want to. Women's bodies are NOT public property!
How often is this, and ahould abortion be easy access because of this? I have horror stories about abortions but should they be illegal because of those?
@@WHATISUTUBE Abortion is a human right - to make decisions about your own health and body. That's why it has to be accessable. And what kind of question is "how often is this"? How often does a person who's life is in danger go to a hospital and is denied help and left to die? It doesn't matter how often, this should never happen, ever. If someone went to a hospital with a heart attack and wasn't given any help and just died there, wouldn't that be ridiculous and outrageous? It's the exact same situation.
@@WHATISUTUBE The point is, it should be up to the pregnant person. They should be able to access the information about the risks of abortion and make their own choice. They should be able to go to a hospital in distress and choose their existing life over the potential life of a fetus.
@@skyethebard Im not entirely against abortion, Im just telling you that depending on what you consider "life", there is an incredibly strong legal argument that abortions are infanticide.
I live in the South, in Northern Florida to be exact. My healthcare provider refused me an abortion and I had to drive HOURS to find a facility that would provide one. The provider my original OB referred me to still hasn’t returned my calls (over a year later). As well, the OB refused to provide me birth control. Yes, in the USA there are still OBGYNs that can refuse you birth control. I had to drive to the next major city to get birth control, thankfully not as far. However, what about the women who don’t have transportation or the money to go to another city for healthcare? It’s such a strange world.
@@freddiehandley278 if they are raped, if the conditions of the fetus are really bad, if the mother cannot face a pregnancy, if she cannot provide, and the list goes on...
It's unfortunate that it took a woman dying before they changed the law. No matter anyone's personal beliefs, her life and her health should be the priority.
Irish people voted in the 90s that an abortion is allowed in cases that would be necessary to save the mother's own life. The government just hadn't written the law.
@@lindacosgrove7918 I don't think I understand what you're asking/saying. Are you saying we should not allow abortions because we're all going to die someday?
@@VanessaMarieBooks no one should murder another person. Not to long ago democrats used to say “abortion should be rare” now it’s going as far as abortion on demand even past birth (baby is not wanted can be left to die 28 days later) this is murder. Colorado has passed this, Maryland is considering this. This is not science; life begins at conception, no excuses. Please don’t give me “gray areas” we all will die and no one is guaranteed tomorrow. Ruth Ginsburg a pro- abortion justice even said Roe v Wade was very weak, this will be overturned and will go back to states, so women can drive to states that perform baby killing.
@@lindacosgrove7918 It's impossible to "abort" a baby once it's born, so yes I'd agree with you at that point it is murder. You said Colorado passed this and Maryland is considering it, do you have any sources to show this? "We all will die and no one is guaranteed tomorrow," you're right about this as well, but my question is why does a fetus get more rights than the women that are already here? Also, the primary goal of abortions is not to "kill a baby," the goal is to terminate the pregnancy. Usually this is done early in pregnancy which means unfortunately the embryo/fetus will die as it is unable to survive outside of the womb at that stage. If it's possible to terminate the pregnancy WITHOUT the fetus dying (meaning they are viable outside of the womb), then that's what they'll do. This is about a women's bodily autonomy and NO ONE gets to use her body without consent, even if it is her child. Let me ask this, if a child has a terminal illness and needs an organ to survive, are we going to force their parents to donate their organ to them? Sure a lot of parents may happily give their child their organ (depending on the organ), but no one is going to FORCE that parent to donate their organ to the child EVEN if it means the child will end up dying. So again, why are we giving a fetus more rights than someone who is already here?
I had to have an abortion due to an ectopic pregnancy last year. As heartbreaking and devastating as it was for me as we really wanted our baby, I am so glad that I was able to access the healthcare I needed so that I didn’t rupture my Fallopian tube and need emergency surgery or die from internal bleeding. As much as I believe that babies lives are valuable and precious, mothers lives are valuable and precious too.
Uhm there are no laws restricting treatment for ectopic pregnancy. Even with strict abortion laws doctors have to treat you. Baby cannot survive outside of the uterus. If Fallopian tube ruptures baby dies and mother is at risk of dying. Doctors cannot refuse to treat a woman with a molar pregnancy as well. These are unviable pregnancies that directly put the mother in danger. Anti- Abortion laws will never affect these.
@@winkblue6851 It’s there, otherwise there would be no need to “remove” (murder) the individual in the womb. And believe it or not the ideological fabric of the society around me does very much affect me
Totally agree, and when she said she didn't have a second thought about working in the "industry" of abortion it shows how important this work is to her.
GOD WILL JUDGE THIS HE HEARS THE CRIES OF THE SHEDDING OF INNOCENT BLOOD. I beg of anyone of you who have done this act of abortion to REPENT AND ASK forgiveness to JESUS CHRIST. He still loves you but don’t read this message without asking Jesus to Forgive you of that sin. Matthew 18:6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
I just feel like I need to mention just because someone is pro-choice, doesn't mean they are going to get an abortion every time they are pregnant! They might just be pro-choice for everyone else, but are pro-life with their body.
Thank you, as a pro-choice person I’m fine with anyone else getting an abortion since it doesn’t affect me , but I would personally not get one unless it’s needed
We actually had a poll about this in class and fyi I attend a Christian school, almost everyone voted against abortion including our teacher. I think people just don’t know what it’s like in certain situations and they’re quick to judge which is frequently the case in discussions like these. I never understood why “because it could’ve been a LIVING child” was a ‘good’ argument. And I never will.
This woman...is an absolute gem of a human being. Savita's death gave me my unwavering opinion on abortion needing to always be an option. I put myself in the place of her husband, and decided I would never be able to forgive the doctors who's inaction led to the death of Savita.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g You are not pro life. Ever watched handmaids tale? Maybe you should give it a try. The woman in this story is brave and strong and will continue her path;if you like it or you don't.
Removing a miscarried baby is not an abortion. Much like having an ectopic pregnancy removed. An abortion is when a child, who is thriving in the womb, is killed. Every means of abortion is torture. The pill basically starves the baby to death. Surgically, they are ripped apart while alive. If people are going to support barbaric procedures, they need to look into exactly what they are. And it has been proven time and again that the child can feel it and often they are seen fighting for their lives.
The bravery this woman showed sitting down for this, when so many people will say she m*rders babies. She is a healthcare provider, she is a woman, she is so strong and beautiful. Bless you and thank you ma’am for having this conversation with us today. ❤️
J Kozy it’s a termination of a pregnancy, for any given reason. But it doesn’t make somebody a m*rderer. Health care providers, helping a patient through what is always a difficult decision. Not somebody killing another person out of hate, greed, or any other malicious intent.
Strong? For what killing innocent babies who can't defend themselves?,some strength👍and she does murder babies, the vagina doesn't grant a child their humanity, they are no different from us,the women might say she's not financially ready for the baby which her and her partner should've been well before having sexual intercourse so don't kill the baby for that,and they're not stupid there is plenty of adoption centre being opened everyday,just because the women does not want it,doesn't mean that baby does not want to live,and a woman has full choice over body I agree just like anybody on this planet and so should that child,that child should be able to cherish and grow up and enjoy life like any other human being
I'm not pro-“murdering babies”. I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs. I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later. I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child. I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal. I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her. I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child. I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses. I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail. I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child. I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat. I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager. I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding. You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is: I'm pro-life. Their lives. Women's lives. You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted. Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
I’m very anti abortion because I feel compassion for the fetus and can’t conceive the thought of it being dismembered for birth control reasons alone, but these are pretty strong arguments here.
@@nancym.jaramillo43 I don’t think it is about having abortion legal or illegal. If you make it illegal women will literally die, abortion is sometimes what is needed. I think it is about where we draw the line. What should be the restrictions and so on. In what situations is it okay.
@@dicksmashermicrocock7984 if abortion is legal human babies will literally die. If it’s illegal women trying to murder babies will die. I choose the second choice
Incredible human!? For what taking life away,why,we don't have the right to take life away,that child has the right to life just like you and me and everyone on this planet,just because it's in the womb they think it's not human or its just a fetus it's not a baby yet,they think the vagina grants he or she their humanity,and fetus means offspring and offspring means small child so they kill small innocent children just because they're not financially stable,which her and he roadtner should've been, even before sexual intercourse and there is plenty of adoption centres being open every single day,and there is nothing incredible about taking away human life if anything if a woman is financially unstable and feels like she's not ready but still delivers and takes care of that baby no matter what, that incredible!
@Jenny Ghosh it's her fault she should've been financially ready well before her and her partner decided to have sexual intercourse,there is no excuse for it,it's not the babies fault they decided to create him/her when they weren't financially ready so if they can't take care of it there is plenty of adoption agency's out there
I love how 90% of the comments that are against abortion bring up religion. Fucking accept that not everyone believes your religion, and doesn't fucking have to. Leave the poor woman alone.
It’s even worse when not all religious people even agree on abortion, it makes their argument even weaker I unfortunately had to have an abortion done when I was 18 (for reasons I don’t wish to get into). I’m now with a man that is incredibly religious, probably the most religious person I’ve met, but full heartedly stands with my decision for an abortion and the reasons why I got one
The fact that you are not religious doesn't give you the right to spew profane words in the comments of a serious public discussion. Or you have no morals, maybe because you are not religious. Still you don't have the right. bad words or even passionate words are not arguments. We can hear about your feelings too but we don't want to hear about your dirty boundless anger. RUclips should censor people like you not people who have a religion. Shame on you, RUclips.
@Jenny Ghosh Stop using that terrible argument. Most abortions are not because the mother is unable to take care of the child, but that she doesn't want the child. Nowadays people talk like unless you have a perfect life with a large income, then having a child will be too difficult or something; mothers throughout history have gone through hell and back with their children, having little money or bad living conditions, but they kept going, because they were selfless, and loving. You telling the other poster to take care of other people's children is ridiculous, you're actually saying "take care of this child, otherwise we'll kill it"; parents have a responsibility to raise their own children, not anyone else. look at yourself Jenny, this is evil and twisted.
@Jenny Ghosh see,sexism you trip over your words,women tend to blame men and say men can't say this or that because it's their body,it takes two to create life,not one!,I think most women tend to "forget" that
@Jenny Ghosh and can't "trans males" give childbirth?,I think you forgot that aswell,so don't give that excuse either that men can't give childbirth,because in today's sick world men can have children too
I wish more people around the world had the compassion of this wonderful human. You’re welcome to have a difference of opinion, you are not welcome to attempt to destroy the lives of people who’s situations you know nothing about. What a beautiful example of humanity.
As an RN who has worked labor and delivery, post natal, ICU, psych, and med surg… I feel so hard for my sister here. In America the accessibility of healthcare in general is abysmal. Let alone having those fortunate enough to receive healthcare also be in a state with reasonable abortion laws and regulations? If you like the lottery you’ll absolutely LOVE our new game called reproductive rights roulette!
Thank you for your service to the female healthcare industry. Repealing the 8th was such a powerful moment for us women. I've been a patient of maternity services 4 times, only 1 was joyous, I left with my beautiful child. The three other times I sadly miscarried. Despite my tragic losses I will never ever judge another woman who choses to terminate her pregnancy. No woman happily skips into an abortion clinic. Raise each other up, don't tear each other down.
Wow what a story. The sad part about this is we all aparrently live in a pro choice world. until that choice is against what someone else believes then pro choice no longer exists? If it wasnt for services like this i may have lost my wife and we may have never been able to have the beautiful family that we now have.
Well where's the choice of the baby? What happens when an attempt at abortion fails because the baby is struggling for life? Or when they end up being born but severely injured because of what has been done to them? That doesn't really take into account this young person's choice to live does it? You can clearly see when a baby is born that they have all the necessary functions and drive to live, one might call that a choice to live, to experience the world around them... But when they are inside the womb it is ok to take away that choice? To make it so the baby never gets the opportunity to make any choice ever again? I'm glad you have your wife and a lovely family, but make no mistake, loss of human life is always a sad thing, no matter how young that life is. It's not something that should be celebrated.
So you mean you'd rather his wife dead for the child to be born? Obviously the life of an adult person is more valuable than an unbotn baby. I'm not saying the baby's life is not worth saving but when you have to make a choice you'd know which is more important. Do you think he and his wife are not sad and depressed that their child had died? And you have to rub salt on their wounds and call them murderers. I bet you don't care about every single babies in the world. Why don't you go and help those who are orphans instead of being on the internet calling people this and that.
Wonderful in what sense? Killing innocent babies,or stopping them from enjoying life like you and me,what do wonderful about sticking a needul into that baby full of poisonous chemicals or ripping it's limbs off slowly,yet the have the audacity to say oh it's just cells, well all of us are just cells are bones and organs are made up of cells everything about us is made up of cells,they think just becaus sits inside the womb "oh it's a parasite" or "it's a fetus" yet fetus means offspring and offspring means small child so they basically kill small children,yet they could easily just put them into an adoption agency or centre,but no they simply just want to kill it like it does not feel it!
@@QuantumRngd nah I'll get a life when all those lives been taking away will stop being taking away just because you can't face facts,don't get frustrated mate
@Jenny Ghosh ignorant,I'm the ignorant one when I'm trying to save those innocent lives out there that have arms and legs and a head but all you can do is get ignorant or not listen,that's ignorant!,me trying to make sure those poor little children have the right to cherish and enjoy life just like you and me and everyone on this planet,that's me contributing to help save life,so what do you do,contribute to murdering it?,just shows people like you will bring humanity down to the ground;
@@ryanscaggs1674 it isn't an unborn child, it's a fertilised egg or fetus. Use of the term 'murder' is just overly emotionally charged and sensationalist. Women have the right to determine what happens to their bodies. It's as simple as that. You wouldn't forcibly remove someone else's blood in order to save a newborn baby's life, for the exact same reason.
@@darcymr353 life starts at conception, 96% of biologists agree. It is a baby with different DNA and oftentimes has a beating heart. I'm sorry you've been lied to and indoctrinated into this thinking that its justified to murder your unborn child that you voluntarily conceived. Only in cases of rape or incest, which make up less than 1% of abortions, would it be justified and even then i would strongly suggest that that child should be given an opportunity at life regardless of how they were conceived. God bless you, and i pray you see how grotesque arguing in defense of the genocide of 60+ million innocent lives is. 🙏
@@ryanscaggs1674 you're just repeating yourself. I know you think it's murder. Are you trying to imply that you would therefore condone forced blood removal in order to save lives? If you disregard a woman's bodily autonomy, your logic could be used to justify removing anyone's bodily autonomy to save the lives of others.
When the abortions rights bill came up in New Zealand for amendment to make access to abortion services for women to be easier, i was asked "What will you be voting?" my answer was always the same, "I am Pro Life and Pro Choice. To bring life into this world is an amazing thing, and should be celebrated, and a joyful thing, but, we as women should have final say over what happens to OUR bodies, not the government, not the religious institutions, and certainly not someone who is not involved in the making of that choice." I was told that i was supporting the murder of babies and that i was a monster, my response has always been the same, "You have asked me for my opinion on this subject. This is my body, this is my life, this is my Choice, and i would thank you to remember and respect that, just as i respect your opinions and choices."
i have no respect for your stance whatsoever and i find the pro choice movement disgusting. by the very definition pro life implies that you are opposed to the other side which advocates for the option or “choice” to take life. you are not pro life. you are pro choice but would not have an abortion. and maybe you’ll bend on that when it becomes convenient for you. you either believe abortion is unjustifiable murder or you do not and you clearly do not despise abortion or believe it to be morally wrong. be honest with yourself. i cannot imagine you’re able to take yourself seriously saying that life is to be celebrated but only when it’s wanted to be celebrated. what is your standard for anything?? just your feelings in that moment?
@@jaidensprout I cannot imagine that you're able to take yourself seriously saying that life is to be celebrated but a woman should be left to die rather than terminate her pregnancy.
@@cheyennestirling2365 right. that was my point. she said we should just respect each other’s viewpoints but we have opposing stances because we find the other to disregard human rights(whether that be the right to life or the right to a “woman’s choice”)
@@user-bm3un3ct2g what would you rather happen for the unwanted baby? To be born when the mother might not be in a good living condition or the baby go into foster care with a chance of being abused? I was born to drug addicted parents and then got adopted at 5yrs old and I've had trauma of sexual abuse, I'd rather of been aborted to not go through all the bs I went through which still affects my life everyday.
Incredible woman. We need more people to hear her. Especially in POLAND where our government recently prohibited even abortions of fatally ill foetuses, unable to live after birth.
@@dankus.memeokus4192 No. Abortion is the mother's choice, and her choice alone. You are not the patient, and you are not her doctor. You do not decide what is best for the patient. Limiting access to healthcare under _any_ circumstances is _never_ ok.
As a midwife practising in the England I commend Caoilfhionn for educating the public and sharing her experiences. The public notion of what a midwife is is only part of the picture. We are advocates for women and their informed choices. For those strongly against abortion all I ask is that you consider the outcome of unwanted pregnancies that are not terminated. As a midwife I have seen that this can be very negative for the baby/child as well as the woman
You're advocating the killing of babies unless there is an risk to the health of the mother it should not be a choice to kill it, This world is falling deeper and darker.
@@johndouglas4826 The duty of a midwife is to advocate for a woman's choice. That is what I signed up for and will forever uphold. I am not saying it is an easy decision but it should be theirs. There is also evidence and research as to why abortions are only legal in the early stages of pregnancy. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. My duty to women remains unwavering
She is helping so many people. Good for her. We have enough unwanted children living on the system and on the streets. We don't need more. I'm glad they have the choice. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. Just don't try and stop someone else for their choices.
And just look at all the children sent to the Catholic homes because they were "illegitimate" and allowed to die from neglect and malnutrition and lack of healthcare. The Catholic church is not pro life, it is pro birth.
@@countdamoney8128 It's not her problem that you interpreted her comment that way. She was not implying that the children are the problem. She's talking about how these children were forced to live these miserable lives in the streets and the system when it could of easily been avoided if their parent just had the choice. It's so sad seeing these kids suffer. They don't deserve to suffer. Why not stop it before the suffering can even commence? These anti-choice people care about a person not going through with their pregnancy but you don't see them caring about the children who are a production of these unwanted pregnancies.
Unilad should really have someone sitting monitoring comment sections on videos like this. A healthy debate and a personal attack are two different things
@@oOoJeeoOo exactly. If someone wants to use their body to place a sharp object inside someone else's body in a fit of rage then that's their business and noone else's.
Before I went into nursing I was anti choice. Reality and science and humanity changed my false views. I am now both pro-life and pro-choice and have been for decades. I was raised Catholic and was indoctrinated by the Church and by 12 years of Catholic school education. Thank God that education rescued me.
I'd agree with the life saving kind of Abortion, but lets be real here- most abortions are done by perfectly healthy women who rather avoid the inconvenience. And this is where most of the sin lies. No body is saying you can't have one if your life is TRULY on the line, by all means save the woman- but don't hide mounds of sin under this one act of mercy and say it is right. Have you not heard, that It is better for a person to tie a millstone around their legs and dropped into the abyss than to hurt these little ones? Reality? Science? Is progress so important ? I would rather we all ride horse and buggy than kill babies.
@@dwolfe2907 A pregnancy should not be used ad a punishment. Pregnancy has very real, material risks for the person that is pregnant. In many countries, no maternity leave exists, meaning women have to give up months and months of pay to give birth. You would rather go back to the 1800's and give up 150 years of progress in medicine and equality and better living for people, than allow people to have control their bodies? Not everyone is religious - not everyone believes in sin. Not all religions consider abortion a sin.
I'm pro abortion. It was 1987 and I was 28. One refused because of his religion the second didn't. The nurse who was supposed to explain the procedure decided to lecture me until I stopped her about adoption. I told her in no uncertain terms that her job was to explain the procedure and keep her politics out of it. It shocked her how determined I was. She explained it. It's interesting how the misled think abortion is a form of birth control but never say that about a man with a vasectomy that prevents conception as a form of birth control. It's also amazing how some men are against abortion until they don't want to be saddled with an unwanted kid and suddenly abortion is fine. My boyfriend at the time had a kid he refused to raise or give financial help to saying the mother didn't want it. He should've done it anyway. He was outraged that I didn't discuss my decision with him. He said because you refused to discuss it with me I'm not paying for it. Talk about confusion! I was 28, an adult, my decision, why on earth would I want him to pay for it! Mr. how Dare You Not Discuss It With Me wound up in prison for 8 years the following year. Not exactly father material. My medical decisions are mine and it's ridiculous to me that you don't pay for them yourself. Making the decision was easy. Going through it wasn't as I'd never had an operation of any kind. But I got garbage from the doctor with the are you sure? Are you sure? I told him it wasn't his place to question my decision. It took 3 years to find a doctor to sterilize me. Same garbage. Why! Are you sure? I got that done. Neither decision was hard. The doctor gave me too much anesthesia and I almost didn't wake up. Scared the nurse silly who was watching over me. Choice is choice! We don't need to explain, defend, justify or apologize for our decisions for any procedure! At 12 weeks it was small enough to be suctioned out by a tube. None of this tearing anything limb from limb. I'm fed up with pro lifers who want to decide for others be they men OR women. They're real big on telling you not to abort but do they bring the woman to their home? Pay for all medical expenses? Be there during labor? Be there at birth? Literally be a relative to help raise the kid? Of course not! Nor do they adopt all the unwanted kids in Children's Services. Legal or illegal we'll still do it. It's safer the legal way. To this day I feel no guilt. No regret. And no one will make me feel that way. And those who do abortions don't have to explain, defend, justify or apologize for giving a woman this health care need! If one doesn't believe in abortion great! Don't have one! No one asks your permission nor need your approval be it a woman having an abortion or from the one doing the abortion. The funniest complaint about abortion is the idea that you're paying for it. When you personally get the bill which you don't, you're not paying for it. It's no one else's business!
@@Cha4k actually the fetus at 12 weeks was sucked out by a tube. And the father who already had a daughter refused to be part of her life or give money for her raising and a year later put himself in prison for 8 years on a gun charge. He was a shit father. And you're right. I would've been a shit mother because I despise human kids. I'm wonderful with my pet kids. I and my brother had a shit mother who was an alcoholic narcissist. How many kids by the way in Children's Services have YOU adopted lately! How many pregnant moms you think should give birth have YOU taken in until birth and helped raise her kid for the rest of your life! NONE, you self-righteous hypocrite!
@@user-bm3un3ct2g LOL! Better lock your doors and windows! BOO! Seriously though how many pregnant women have YOU taken in! How many throwaway unaborted kids have YOU adopted! NONE! Hypocrite!
Amen! I see no difference in nature, as we are part of it. In nature, if the animal doesn't have the resources for the young, the young don't make it. We are still in the animal kingdom. Just higher functioning. Hell, some mammals eat their young. Obviously this is extreme but there are reasons for everything is the point. People think women go out getting abortions like candy. It's ridiculous.
I want to say thank you to Caoilfhionn Morris because her passion for her job, her beliefs, her hard work have saved so much grief and pain from so many women. It is amazing to witness that. Thank you Caoilfhionn Morris.
Amazing This one of the most Frank and real Conversations I've seen on abortion. Found myself crying with her And applauding at her statement when she said women don't Need to give a reason. I am so glad people like her exist And out there fighting every day for women's choice
@@user-bm3un3ct2g If you despise the killing of fetuses so much. How about you do something about the foster homes that are treated like dumpster bins for children because their mothers were forced to give birth? But of course not, because in real life pro life just means pro birth and thus gives no crap about the living children after the birth.
@@KL-ki8db the babies who were ripped limb from limb and their skulls crushed and vacuumed away are all clamoring for justice. The genocide of millions must end.
@@etiblmca9267 There are withered bodies of those children who have wasted away from hunger and dehydration most common amongst those who have been brought into this world as no one wanted them after birth. There are abused and bruised children who still live in horror with irreversible brain damage and trauma since they are only seen as punching bags or sex toys after birth by adults who are usually their own parents, unwanted to begin with. Also, you say skulls are crushed when some abortions are done before the second trimester as in the fetus is still a lump of cells. Same damage as having a bloody miscarriage. You may scream genocide, but you still have no intent or plan for those children who were in this world whose parents only allowed them to be born because they know that hypocrites such as yourself only care about the birth and not the rearing of a child.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Neglecting and ignoring the choices or rights of raped women isn’t justice nor is the consideration of lethal genetic diseases a child may have like Tay Sachs, being born is even moderately helpful.
It's insane that men think it's their right to force women to go through nine month of pregnancy which can be very traumatic and damaging to their body, then through birth it self, because the man raped them, or has left them, and the man themselves will likely have no consequences for the pregnancy. I think it's also important to remember that doctors can't force people to be organ donors to save someone's life, or to donate blood, so why do people think it's okay to force women to go through 9 months of pregnancy and birth (let along the 18+ years of rasing the child if they don't want to put it up for adoption) to save the 'life' of a clump of cells. It is literally proposing that dead people have more rights then women, even if you consider life to begin at conception and a clump of cells to be equivalent to a fully grown adult. And even after all of that you say the children can just go to foster care and a loving family, I would like to remind you that currently 120,000 children are waiting to be adopted at the moment, so there is simply too many for them all to live a happy ever after, it is not ethical
are there no female doctors where you live? who exactly are these 'men' you are talking about? (well, condemning rather) or is perhaps another agenda that you have? I'l have to ask my dad if he forced my mum through 9 months of torture just so he could have me - or I might ask my mum the same question -the other way round!!
The foster care system and group homes are often inadequate to say the least. Children often end up being severely abused in every way and end up with severe mental and physical health issues, not uncommonly reenacting the exact abuse they suffered. Children suffering and being lost in a broken system is not a good alternative to abortion and it never will be.
yeah ill mail any girl in the world the abortion pills who needs them especially over some shit like that , hell no , not on my time , not while im alive.
@@NaNa-re3wc Yeah I work in a grouphome and as a PCA. Love the job, love my facility - but these kids have all been in horrible placements. Our foster care system and adoption system is a joke. Like if I got pregnant and couldn't afford to have a kid, I wouldn't even think about putting them up for adoption - I'd abort. There's not a single kid in the system who hasn't been abused.
When is the rapture so we can be free of these religious fanatics once and for all? Please go be with Jesus and leave us alone with our science, logic, and freedom.
One day, religion will become a distant memory, and its extemely rare remaining cases will be treated as a mental disorder it really is. Sad that none of us will live long enough to see it.
My husband and I planned a pregnancy. We were so happy when I got pregnant and it was the happiest time of my life. Sadly, due to actions outside of my control, we lost this much wanted pregnancy. I had to have a D and C for the sake of my life. I am glad I had the procedure because if the laws were different I could have ended up like Savita Halappanar
I was 7 months pregnant with pre-eclampsia. I was admitted to a CATHOLIC hospital. They took many ultrasounds & never told me that the infant would die before, or shortly after being born. There were obvious defects that could've been seen by ultrasounds. None of his organs were normal, his eyes didn't develop, his brain was severely damaged, a big hole in his heart, the deformities go on & on. It was Trisomy 13. Because this was a CATHOLIC hospital, they didn't let me know anything. After the baby was born by emergency caesarean at 8 months, (I had general anesthesia, so I was asleep), they sent the baby to a non-catholic hospital. Three days later I finally saw him & was told about all the deformities & prognosis. My husband & I put a Do Not Resuscitate on him. He was gone when he was 12 days old. Yes I would've aborted, had I known.
That's sad. His life was worth a lot even if it was a short life. Saying it would have been better to kill him in the womb is horrific and selfish because you are valuing your feelings of uncomfortableness (because you didn't want a baby who would have major health problems) over a life. A human life.
@@meredithc4735 that's a fucked up thing to say. Having an abortion in this case would have been the right thing to do. That baby was in agony for it's entire life. People like you just prove that "pro-lifers" don't care about the babies, you care about the fetuses, you care about controlling women. You are an absolute psychopath for saying these things to a mother who had to see her baby suffer for 12 days. Shame on you.
@@meredithc4735 She would've known for sure that the child was going to die, if she had been informed properly, so why prolong the suffering of the child? Getting an abortion in such a case is not selfish at all.
@@jamiececilielange5249 yes it is. There is a big difference between the child dying naturally from medical reasons and killing an innocent child. The difference between you and me is that when you see suffering, you want to run and make it go away. For you, if someone suffers, it is ok to do whatever moral decision one wants. For me, I believe in Jesus Christ and life and suffering have meaning. I do not kill others or want others killed so their suffering can go away. I prefer to help the person who is suffering. In this case, that means if the baby is born and going to die, I am going to wrap that baby up in my arms, feed that baby with my body and hold him in my arms until his last breathe. I believe the pain of loving and losing is worth it and that killing that baby is a very selfish act to spare the parent's broken heart.
@@meredithc4735 Both choices would've been hard. I see no meaning in children suffering. My dad had multiple sclerosis, and I didn't see any meaning in his suffering either - and he suffered a lot the last 5 years of his life until his natural death. If you had a cat or dog that was suffering and would eventually die, would you euthanize it? I'm asking out of curiousity.
I can't phantom how badly people want to control someone else's uterus. Pregnancy has made me extremely sick to where I could not function. I had to leave my job, because I couldn't get out of bed. Throwing my guts out multiple times a day. The pain was unreal that I don't even wish that upon my worst enemy. Im sure women who go through these experience like myself are told to just deal with it or wait it out. It's the most pain and discomfort I've been in my whole life, yet a man is suppose to tell me to just deal with it? I think it's sick that these choices are made for women when no body has any idea how it feels or what a person is going through. My husband watched how weak I became and even though he does not like abortions he sat down with me and said he totally understands if I need to make that decision, because he saw how bad off I was. My mom almost died from the same thing which is HG. It has gotten a little better, but still awful. This pregnancy will leave me traumatized & to never do this to myself again. Like she said, a women should not have to even explain why she is getting an abortion. Imagine you feel like you're dying inside so much that it feels like torture and everyone around you is telling you just to deal with it, because they have no idea how it feels. Thats how ignorant people are. Some people can't afford a child, some people had everything going for them when they became pregnant and then boom their partner leaves. So, many reasons and no one should have a say. It is actually very weird for someone to care so much about what someone does to their body. People love to say that "Oh, but the baby isn't her body." Well, yes it very much is, because without her there would not be a fetus therefore her decision comes 1st no matter what. If you can't cure a women's illness, if you can't take away that pain for her, if you can't pay the bills she no longer can afford for having a child, and if you can't support her through whatever is holding her back from having a child, then the decision does not and will never concern you. People have a lot of opinions &
Nobody wants to tell you what to do with your uterus but you should learn about how your uterus works so you can make educated decisions that don't involve killing children in the womb.
I had an MTOP in March earlier this year which is a medical termination of pregnancy due to foetal anomaly which in our case was anencephaly which is a neural tube defect where the skull had not fully formed so my baby girls brain was exposed - this is a fatal condition and is not compatible with life. I was told my baby could not survive, I would be lucky to get to full term and if I did she would most likely be still born or may live a few hours. I bled out after delivering my little girl and was rushed for emergency surgery and several blood transfusions I’m very lucky to be here today. This was a very much wanted pregnancy which unfortunately had no happy ending. RIP my beautiful little Angel ❤️ x
Nah mate so what killing and taking away life is a positive impact? If they do not want it,give it to an adoption centre,there's plenty being open every single day,just because they're not financially stable,which is their faults they should've tought about that well before sexual intercourse,but no instead they don't want to take any effort to take responsibility of that child and instead kill it
@@risevision1080 If they didn't want the child in the first place, they'd have to give up their body for 9 months and go through the pain of child birth just to instantly give the child away. Women should have control over their body. Also, a foetus has no right to be born, and human rights only apply at the point of birth, therefore the wishes of the mother should always take priority over an unborn child. Also if you are the child who has been adopted, your quality of life is going to be a shit show - they're probably going to wonder why their mother didn't want them, and they'll spend a great portion of their life feeling isolated. Even if the mother did decide to keep the child, didn't put it up for adoption but were still struggling to raise it, the quality of life for both the mother and the child would suffer. Not only that, but if the mother's life is in danger then there's no question that an abortion should always be allowed, and abortions are offered if it is suspected that the child will be born with a disability that will significantly affect their quality of life. I just don't believe that in this day in age, people don't want to show women respect and allow them to have full control over their body
@@risevision1080 You do realise that not all women have the choice of deciding during sexual intercourse?? What if a woman is raped, it is by no means a choice and she should not be forced to go through such a life changing decision through no fault of her own.
@@Jack-xv6ec when consenting individuals engage in sex they enter into a contract, they give both implied, and informed consent. As pregnancy is a side effect of having sex. The equivalent would be; getting side effects from taking prescription drugs, getting into a car accident Bc they are in a car, etc… it’s also a separate individual deciding the quality of life for someone else. Which is actually determined by each individual human being. Ppl who get cancer typically have a worse quality of life, should we kill them to spare them? Do we kill ppl Bc they may be poor, may get raped, may lose a limb? No that’s crazy. Also, Raped individuals which makes up less than 1% of abortions, and don’t give that consent. Which mean there isn’t a contract. And an abortion has never unraped someone. In regards to disabilities. It’s illegal to use an individuals disabilities against them. You aren’t allowed to kill disabled ppl who are alive, why? Bc they are still human beings who have the right to life.
literally you call killing a child "health care" you might aswell walk up to your 20 year old child and stab them to death with a kitchen knife cause it is literally the same abortion is just murder without concequences and without having to see what you have done not "healthcare" or a "human right" literally you call killing a child "healthcare" death is apparently "healthcare" and wow she is so "amazing" literally she loves children and pregnancy so much she mutalates a child inside of the womb blindly what a wonderfull job an "amazing" woman
No MAN because let's be honest here, the majority of laws etc are passed by men, or religion, has the right to dictate the bodily autonomy of another human. There are so many reasons for a pregnancy being ended, not just because it was an accident. Health of the mother, incest, rape, health of the fetus, accidents, all of these also contribute to decisions made by adults who find themselves in situations where they have to make a horrific decision. Don't think for one second anyone considering pregnancy termination thought this was the route they would be going down, it's not always so black and white. It truly is the greyist of grey areas. A woman should have the right to choose for herself, no one else should dictate her actions.
@BigMacWeeb 🙄 Every single person on this earth was born "without consent". So now all of a sudden consent is needed in order to not be born? Dumb. How tf is a clump of cells supposed to have any "choice" in anything? And why TF should that trump the wants, needs, and autonomy of a fully formed, living, breathing human?
@BigMacWeeb No one is aborting an 8 month old baby in the womb. Abortions occur early on for a reason. Pregnancies can be risky and harmful to the woman. Having a child is a massive responsibility, even if you give them up for adoption. In this instance, we should prioritize the lives of the women, who have friends and families, who feel pain and emotions, and most importantly can make an informed decision about their life. Abortions will still happen even if it is illegal. Home abortions kill women. (Also as an aside, If I had been able to consent in the womb I would have asked to be aborted. I never wanted to be alive. It would have been better if I had never existed to form thoughts.)
@BigMacWeeb actually there have been studies that say foetus’s aren’t capable of feeling pain until the third trimester which is 27 weeks. Abortions usually take place before 24 weeks which means they don’t feel pain. Plus until 22 weeks the foetus isn’t considered viable, which mean it can survive outside the womb, so even if it is considered alive inside the womb, without the mother it wouldn’t survive. That means it’s completely the mother’s choice what happens to it.
Has anyone ever found that a man pretended to use a condom and the next day you realize that he didn’t? He made u think that he did. Didn’t get pregnant but somehow felt violated. He took away my safety without my knowledge. Blame myself for not making sure. But what is this? I’ve never seen a case like that before publicly, but it must happen a lot. Young women please keep your guards up always. Double check for your safety. What if I had gotten pregnant? I’ve never told anyone this before. Guess I need to talk to someone about it. I do support all women to choose what happens to them. It’s not my business or my place. We have lost the sense of mind your own business big time. You never know what someone else feels unless you’ve felt it yourself. So you would know what that feels like. You would know that they were suffering. And then you would support them. We all hurt. Life is so hard sometimes. Don’t make it harder on anyone. That’s not your job or your place. Chins up ladies♥️
Just so you know, deceiving someone like this is considered statutory rape in some places as you did not consent to unprotected sex. It's totally understandable that you felt violated. It can even be traumatic and leave you with trust issues n future relationships, I hope if you are dealing with anything like that you're able to speak to someone about it and receive support
@@Rick_Sanchez_G420 obviously. Some people don’t have access to them though, and some women can’t actually take them. There are so many different factors that need to be taken into consideration in situations like these. It’s not just about “morning after pills exist” or “you shouldn’t have had sex then”, “you weren’t being safe enough”...there’s so much more to it than that
I am from Kazakhstan. Country that is so way behind of Ireland in so many ways. But when i had to do my abortion, i was treated with whole respect and support by the medicals. It's woman's body, it's her choice. Really.
You act as if another human wasn't involved lmao. Did the dead fetus have a choice or...? Man I wish I could murder people because they inconvenienced me.
I am SO unbelievably privileged to live in Scotland. A message with a link literally comes up for the NHS on this page. Thank you for these interviews!
@@user-bm3un3ct2g It is not a sentient human being, it's conscious like a plant in the first 12 weeks. Stop with your nonsense and get educated please.
In the dark ages son/daughters were obligated to pay for the crimes of their parents. It isn't different with abortion, the son/daughter is obligated to pay (with his/her life) for the crime of their fathers. In addition, some women rape, some female rappers become preganant of their victims. It's real, it's happens, what do we do with these cases? Can male victims decide...or... are you going to allow the women who rape them decide?
This woman is a hero. The approach, the responsibility she carries, the love for people in her eyes, the way she talks about people. Even the seemingly tiny things like mentioning that not all pregnant people that need care are women. She is a treasure, protect her.
@@TheBigMclargehuge so you don't have to get one if you don't want one but why is always bottom feeders that think they can force their beliefs down people's throat
Whether or not you agree abortion is right is irrelevant to the fact that it is more than prevalent enough to necessitate regulation. Keep it legal to keep it safe
@@KingPingviini then let god sort it out down here. Stop using this fictional character to weaponize your stance. If there was a god, he does a shitty job of caring for people.
Second time watching this. She’s such a beautiful soul and I’m thankful women have her to go to. If ever in the circumstance, her care would be worth the flight. She speaks my heart. I’m pro-choice, which means have all the babies you want, but don’t tell me and my daughters what we “should” do. It was a heart wrenching conversation with my teenager when Roe was overturned. Not because she’s sexually active- but because she knows the fatal consequences of this decision. I didn’t say much except for what she needed to hear right then “If anything ever happens, I’ve got you. It’s between you, me and a doctor and we will fly to a different country if needed. I’ve got you.” She’s 15 and under 100 lbs. Rape is around every corner in the US. She’d be fortunate to survive the rape, much less carrying a baby. I doubt privileged white men have ever even considered this, yet they’re making all the decisions.
Pro life= anti choice perfectly put. To think some of these people stand outside of woman’s reproductive health clinics and push an opinion/ judge woman for their choice walking in. It’s hard enough going through an abortion let alone with signs/ people shouting at you. If I cant change your opinion what makes you think you could change mine? And why would you be more entitled to yours? Let woman be free to do what they feel best for their life, it’s not your business to control how people go about their lives.
At what point does a baby have a soul?? Is it 2 weeks? 12 weeks? 20 weeks? Many times in the bible it speaks of God knowing people while they were still in their mothers wombs. Why would we go against what God wants. It is murder. God hates murder. America is turning from God and it is a problem for us.
Instead of "pro-lifers" they should rightly be called "forced-birthers". They're not pro-life, because they don't care about the baby after it's born - go and ask anyone protesting abortion how many children they've adopted or fostered. The outcome of forcing someone to give birth often causes immense distress and suffering for all concerned, the child most of all.
Thank you for providing terminations to women who need and want them. You are doing a wonderful thing. Providing legal terminations also means that women can have safe terminations and they no longer need to go down backstreet alleyways. I thank you on behalf of all women in need and also for young girls who choose to terminate because they got pregnant through abuse, women who simply cannot or do not want to continue their pregnancy or for any other reason. You really are doing something value able. Be safe. Be happy. Feel rewarded for all the people you are helping
I know this woman means well but she should seek some therapy how u go from admiring birth to terminating pregnancies without a moments hesitation is very peculiar she’s naive confused and emotionally unstable
To all those people who are going to positive comments and replying there with their anti-choice opinions, hiding in the shadows, remember this: you are allowed to have this opinion. But you are NOT ALLOWED to FORCE it on other people, physically, verbally, or legally.
@@MiguelArcangel12 infanticide... okay. I'm sure you're up to date with the number of children who die from poverty, starvation, and abuse, right? And you're just as passionate about saving them as you are about saving a fetus?
The voice of a mature compassionate Ireland that I am so proud to come from an live in. We clearly have a way to go but we have come so far even in my lifetime. Thank you for speaking upand articulating yourself so well.
3:13 AGREE Pregnant people should not need to tell their reasons for wanting to end an unwanted pregnancy 10:21 I so agree with you, I am prolife too, the life of the pregnant person. 11:41 Your support towards women, pregnant person and their choices, is so vastly felt. Amazing interview!
@@layol7398 I agree yes if the woman's life is in danger that's definitely a choice as or for instance rape again it can mentally effect the woman again that's a choice but for no other reason than the argument i dont want it is murder if I wanted to kill someone for no reason and they say no is that denying my choice and anti pro choice they dont want the baby and the man does give it to the man they made the choice to have intercourse its ridiculous
@@layol7398 Well, the danger is not only present but future. It's psychological as well. How is she gonna be able to provide financially, and emotionally if she's not well or didn't want that baby.
Its absolutely devastating watching this only weeks after roe v wade was overturned in the US. Denying basic healthcare to women is absolutely abysmal, ignorant, and outright hatred for women. Ireland took steps forwards (thankfully) and America took leaps backwards. Thank you for this interview.
Should the government have the legal right to force people to use their bodies against their will to save the life of another person? Even at risk Of death, quality of life, physical damage to self, and financial ruin? Body autonomy is important. We even award it to our dead.
You have zero understanding between the difference of active and passive. Pregnancy is not an active, forcing people to use their bodies to save another person is (such as forced kidney/liver donations for example). Abortion is active, it is an action of deliberately butchering or suffocating an individual human being. “Body autonomy” is a euphemism. Nothing more. It is equivalent to referring to mass deportation and genocide of minorities as “ethnic autonomy”.
Its absurd that if you dont want a baby, cant afford a baby, cant afford to take months of unpaid leave, you can still be forced to have a baby in some states. Id rather take my chances with the wire coat hanger. And other women will too. And die from it
If you can't afford a baby, don't want a baby, and/or can't take months of unpaid leave don't have sex. A very small percentage of abortions are due to reported rape granted the number of rape-related abortions are probably higher and unreported, but your comment seems to be toward any cause of pregnancy.
@@savannahroserecipes telling people not to have sex, is like me telling you "don't want to be fat and don't want to look like a whale? want to look like a super model? just only eat cucumbers and water." or just saying that to every single person who is obese or overweight, it isn't a solution let alone a reasonable one.
@@savannahroserecipes birth control and condoms don’t work all the time. Just saying that doesn’t validate a woman not having the right to have the choice to get an abortion when she can just “not have sex” it happens even protected
Right, people do still get pregnant even when using protection, so the only guaranteed way to not get pregnant is to not have sex. If people choose to have sex even with protection knowing they can get pregnant "well, at least I tried to avoid pregnancy by using protection" doesn't make getting an abortion any better.
If roles were Reversed and Men had to carry an Unwanted Pregnancy or looked down due to a Pregnancy! It amazes me STILL that ALL these Pregnant Women are having ‘Immaculate Conceptions’ 🙄… Double standards get my Blood BOILING!! 😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😤😤😤😤
@@OldManGamer1985 that's not at all what OP was stating. The fact is a lot of decisions regarding a woman's body are made by men with little to no consultation of women. If a men were to carry children the battle for abortion and health care services wouldn't be as difficult and the stigma of abortion probably wouldn't exist.
@@ChargedWords again you are saying that politicians who make the laws and debate about abortions, women's right to chose are ALL men ? there are no female pro life politicians?
i remember in 'health' class at high school, the section about abortions was like 'none of you will never actually need to know about this, we're just trying to let promiscuous teen girls know what they might have to go through if they don't change their ways'. like, grown women won't need to know this? and forget about grown MARRIED women ever needing an abortion. i wonder if my teachers even thought about that for a minute.
Good. Probably the only positive thing about American public school is that they draw a small line from teaching their students to partake in one of the most horrific genocides in human history. Too bad this will probably change if it hasn’t already
@@halebopp4747 teaching children about sexual health and safe sex prevents unwanted pregnancy and lessens abortions. You obviously didn’t even absorb any of this video. Women die from not having access to abortion. It’s not a ‘genocide’ it’s basic health care.
@@sarahbennett7823 There is absolutely nothing in this video that I haven’t both already heard and already refuted years before watching this video. The fact that our schools should have to teach children about safe sex is already a symptom of 2 things: 1. That our society is promiscuous, something that shouldn’t be. (Especially when a common and poor criticism I receive in response to my anti-abortion position is the claim that the world is overpopulated). And 2. That there are 0 statutes in place that penalize this promiscuity and any murders that result from it. “Women die from not having access to abortion” unless you’re referring to septic pregnancies, this isn’t a problem. Murderers should not feel safe in their acts and any harm they receive is harm they have brought about themselves. It is very much a genocide, the murder of individuals isn’t basic healthcare. So much that it was forbidden in the original hippocratic oath. You obviously didn’t even absorb anything I have said this entire time, as you have never addressed any of my arguments with constructive criticism. You have only responded with multiple Proof by assertion fallacies. I personally suggest that you refrain from replying to any comments until you learn how to construct and articulate opposing arguments that don’t solely rely on multiple fallacies.
@@halebopp4747 I highly hope someone you know has to experience an abortion and you act as supportive as you have demonstrated you are in these comments. You know absolutely nothing about why a woman might choose to have an abortion. People are allowed to have sex and feel pleasure. Just because you don’t personally believe it’s right doesn’t mean everyone has to live by that rule. Safe sex has accidents anyways even if doing it properly. “Promiscuity” has nothing to do with it. Women who are married for years might want an abortion. Women might not be able to afford an abortion. Pregnancy might pose a risk to the mother. The baby may have sever complications in which abortion would be the proper option. There are SO many reasons for abortion. You’re so “pro life” but you don’t even value the life that’s already here, the mother. But you’re the same kind of person to shame a mother who actually went through with the pregnancy and now can’t afford to properly care for a child, because they aren’t being responsible even the the responsible thing was to have an abortion. People get pregnant by mistake. It happens. And not everyone can or wants to carry a baby to term and give it up for adoption
@@sarahbennett7823 Majority of your reply is complete deflection and red herrings but I’ll respond anyways. I see you haven’t taken my advice of ceasing to reply until you figured out what you’re even typing. I know much about why a woman might choose an abortion, and I’ve already refuted the legitimacy of every instance you have mentioned and will proceed to do so again. People are allowed whatever the Lord God grants them. “Just because you don’t personally believe it’s right doesn’t mean everyone has to live by that rule”. I never said otherwise, I can’t stop people from doing what they want including mass murder unless I put myself at risk of death or torture. This isn’t vindication of your position, acts remain heinous and unjustified because I prove them as such in accordance to propositional logic and in accordance to the laws and statutes of God. I know that safe sex has accidents, accidents aren’t vindication of murder. If you decide to have sex one should be well aware of potential consequences or they shouldn’t do it. “Women who are married for years might want an abortion.” And it continues to be unjustified as the act of putting an innocent individual to death. “Women might not be able to afford the abortion.” I would say good, but rather I presume you didn’t mean what you typed as this statement is irrelevant and not an attempt at appeal to emotion or justification, I think you meant “some women may not afford to raise the child.” If this be the case, there are a multitude of solutions that don’t entail murder such as leaving the child in the care of someone else wether it be putting them up for adoption or leaving the child at a fire station. “Pregnancy might pose a risk to the mother” then the solution would be to monitor the pregnancy. The single and only valid complication I have heard is that of the septic pregnancy, which is mentioned in this video. From what I know, the child usually dies before the pregnancy becomes a risk to the mother. In this case it is not an abortion and instead a removal of the individual’s remains, which isn’t murder. There may also be the case in which both the woman and child may die, and if a serious risk is presented to the mother and the child’s death is guaranteed, then I remain neutral on the position. “The baby may have sever [sic] complications in which abortion would be the proper action” I’m not a utilitarian/eugenicist and killing innocent people on the basis of these philosophies is murder. There are SO many reasons for abortion, all of which you mentioned I have already known and refuted, and all of them with the sole exception of the septic pregnancy (which is neutral) are unjustified and invalid. “You’re so pro life but you don’t even value the life that’s already here, the mother” Both lives are already there. Both are living beings, and I care about all innocents. A mother should be cared for during and after her pregnancy for the sake of both lives, and if the mother is not innocent (such as conceiving the child from adultery or prostitution) then for the sake of the child. “But you’re the same kind of person to shame a mother who actually went through with the pregnancy and now can’t afford to properly care for a child, because they aren’t being responsible even the the [sic] responsible thing was to have an abortion.” On top of the blatant strawman fallacy, murder is never a responsible decision. “People get pregnant by mistake” I never said otherwise, and this is typically a part of most reasons to get an abortion. Once again not a source of vindication for your position. “And not everyone can or wants to carry a baby to term and give it up for adoption.” Elaborate, unless this is another one of your beloved proof by assertion fallacies. Now that I have responded to all of your deflections and red herrings, why don’t you address my refutations? Or better yet, refrain from commenting until you know what you’re talking about?
If you want to decrease the numbers of abortions teach your children. Tell them how one gets pregnant. Teach them how to avoid it. Give people free or cheap access to condoms, etc. And most importantly: Help parents. Give them a lot of paid leave after that they can go back to work in their old job. Give them a secure and free kindergarten stay for their children. Help women in abusive relationships more (educate, help, better laws) And less and less people will be forced to decide for a abortion.
Admirable. So clear-thinking, so humane, so sympathetic. 'Pro-lifers'? MIlitant 'pro-lifers'? Horrible people. Thank you for making this video, Ms Morris.
If it comes between abortion or abuse I’d pick abortion. I was abused as a child adult now and my spouse is a foster care kid. If your not adopting the foster care kids then you get no say. I’d rather see a termination then the alternative.
@@togocat1 yes if I could skip all the abuse and fiction on a level like everyone else yes. I wake up every single day and cry because I’m alive so yes I’d rather have never been on this earth had my parents used a condom I wouldn’t have had the unfortunate fate of finding out what kinds of cruelty humans are capable of. She tried to murder me any ways multiple times I was a mistake and I’ll be a mistake.
@@togocat1 no children of my own I am an adult now it still hurts. The images never go away the things I was subjected to don’t go away ever. You can get better at dealing with it and being “productive “ in life. But the actual trauma never leaves we just learn how to semi function in a scale that’s socially acceptable.
so you'd rather get the unborn to life on the price of a dead a married woman and hence her lover and other children's emotional capacity? Or you'd rather get an infant to life right to a shelter say u cant afford it and get the kid mental issues all his life? Plainly taking life out is pathetic i agree but theres priorities and choices that life puts u and u pick only from bad or worse
If you didn't notice it takes a man and a woman to make a baby. Last time I looked women don't get pregnant on their own. So yes the man should have a say in their unborn babies lives.
I can’t imagine splitting my week between bringing a new life into the world and ending one. This was painful for me to watch, but I know listening to conversations of those in opposite views of myself are the only way we can find ways to support our pregnant moms and make birth control accessible to every one at no cost to reduce the need to turn to abortion.
I really appreciate your willingness to listen to the other side of the argument, I also deeply appreciate you supporting contraceptives. As someone who is pro choice I try to do the same, some of the stories of people choosing to keep unplanned or difficult pregnancies are incredibly beautiful, I hope we can all live in a world where people can make the right choice for them and receive the support they need for the choice that is best for them.
I respect & admire this woman's stance on abortion. She's neither here nor there. She appreciates life yet also wholeheartedly & graciously respects each personal choice a woman must make for herself 🤍🕊🙏🏽
Love this woman. It's pretty important to note that abortion is not JUST ending and unwanted pregnancy. Medically, an abortion is ANY ending of a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth. Miscarriage, stillbirth, elective termination of an unwanted pregnancy, termination of a wanted but unviable pregnancy, etc.. There are dozens of complications and conditions that would make a pregnancy dangerous or impossible to carry to term, or the neonate would invariably suffer a very short painful life and, as a result, many very wanted pregnancies are aborted for the safety of the mother, or as a mercy to the child. Politicians (mostly American politicians) have hijacked the term to only mean ending an unwanted pregnancy and that's just inaccurate, which is another sign that medical decisions should be made by medical doctors, not politicians.
True. But i think one more remark is necessary. Even if 100% of abortions in the world happened because a woman just doesn't feel like it, that would not change anything from ethical point of view. Bodily autonomy is the basic human right, and anyone can exercise it however and whenever they fkin want.
How dare you equate miscarriage with abortion. I've had 3 miscarriages and all those babies were wanted by my partner and myself. Most women who have had miscarriages wanted their babies. And a baby being ripped apart in the womb is hardly merciful.
Could not imagine a better human for this type of health care service. She really does change the misconception & stigma around abortion. You are such a deserving human & I appreciate the respect & care you give to these women. Bless you & thank you! 🤎
@@mikeoakes747 well.. exactly. Also, murder is illegal, abortion isn't. AND the fetus isn't a person, being a person it's a social construct, being a baby it's a social construct. It's only a future human, a future person, a future baby.
"Si no te gusta el aborto no tengas uno"...¿entonces si no te gusta la violación no violes, si no te gusta asesinar no asesines, si no te gusta robar no robes...? Ese argumento no tiene sentido. Siempre habrá personas haciendo cosas malas, esa realidad no es motivo para hacer legal las cosas malas. "el asesinato es ilegal, el aborto no lo es"....¿entonces si en un pais la esclavitud es legal tenemos que estar de acuerdo con la esclavitud? El hecho de que algo esté permitido por ley no significa que sea bueno/correcto/ético/coherente ¿donde crees tú que está el valor? ¿un humano no tiene valor por si mismo? ¿una vida no tiene valor por si misma? ¿un ser sintiente no tiene valor por si mismo? ¿donde está el valor? esa es la cuestión principal, la segunda cuestión principal es ¿Donde empieza la vida?
A commenter to me made an excellent point to me. Yeah I'd be a crappy mom to human kids. I'm not fond of them but good with my pet kids. The father I told her had a child from another, he never bothered to help raise the kid, had no contact with her, refused to send money to the mom and gave excuses and a year after my abortion that I don't have a problem with 35 years later, he ended up in prison for 8 years on a gun charge. His parents were good parents and he wound up in jail. Lots of crappy parents have kids in jail who never bothered to teach them right. The commenter was absolutely right with another observation of theirs. Kids deserve to be loved and wanted. So why in heck do pro lifers demand unwanted kids be born in the first place if they're gonna be treated like crap or end up in Children's Services unwanted! I keep asking pro lifers why don't they take in a pregnant mom take care of her until the birth and help raise the kid. And what response do I get each time I ask? NOTHING! Pro lifers love the pre born but notice how they don't shout unfair when this country won't provide what's needed for pre K? Or paid maternity leave? Care about a fetus not care when they're born! Unless you're a single dad there's no paternity leave and with mom around when married who looks for child care? HER! Who worries more about that? MOMS! Who takes care of baby mostly? MOM! My mother was a narcissistic alcoholic. She was verbally abusive and just an awful person. I asked her once if she had a choice would she have gotten married and had kids(my brother and I) and she said nope! So why did she? Well she got married in 1954, and was born in 1931. Why does that matter? Just what mom said. You got married and had kids as a woman because that's what you were "supposed" to do. Mom never stopped working and in those days when my brother and I were born in '56 and '59 you were "supposed" to stay home. Not mom! She worked and dad worked. But with these bans on abortion and the possible reversal of Roe, women are going to be back to being forced to do what you're "supposed" to do! The stereotype of a woman! Give birth! Be a mom! Things were different then in many things with babies in the 50's when my brother and I came. No such thing as special formula if your baby was allergic to cow's milk. No such thing as WIC then! No such thing as disposable diapers! Cloth diapers with safety pins none of this pansy Huggies. Diaper services who'd take your dirty diapers wash them and bring them back at a price of course. Nursery school was our child care! No such thing as bringing your baby to work and having a room where the tots were looked after like some today. Then as now no paid maternity leave! Back then no such thing as the Pill when my brother and I came in the 50's. I don't know if they had other birth control stuff for women and who knows when condoms were invented that most men refuse to wear thinking birth control is all on her! You didn't want a baby NEITHER did 'it'! Well legal or not women and girls should not be forced to give birth. Yell at her for getting pregnant not yelling at him for no condom. We don't need a reason for abortion! Possible banning of contraceptives to today for her but doesn't include condoms of course! Yell at her for an abortion but NOT for vasectomies? Rant we're all paying for her abortion NO rant over we're all paying for HIS vasectomy! Sexist hypocrisy at it's absurd finest! Abortion bad when she wants it abortion no reaction when HE demands she get one! It's our bodies! The irony is that when you dictate to most about their kids what do they say! "Don't tell me how to raise my kid!" So why are anti abortion people dictating whether you have one or not! Don't like abortion? Great! Don't have one! Legal or illegal abortion won't stop! We're not incubators! And if pro lifers are so into birth then you grab that pregnant mom, take her into YOUR home, be with her for 9 months, pay for her doctor visits, be there at birth and you be part of her family and help raise that kid! You baby sit, buy supplies, help pay for education, teach right from wrong. And judging from the no responses when I demand of pro lifers why you won't be there for that kid and mom, proves you don't care. You punt them off to some agency but YOU won't personally be a part of that kid's life and help raise them. One pro lifer said to me I have no resources to adopt but I donate to charity! Kinda selective! Have money to punt an unwanted kid on a charity but won't take care of the kid themselves! If it's that important you make it so you can adopt! And those kids weren't aborted! A lot less work for you to do in the womb. Once they're born you're all off on another tangent against abortion. Kids SHOULD be wanted and loved! Deadbeat dads should take care of their spawn but they won't! Giving to charity for kids is NOT personal care! Reminds me of an adoption case in my city years ago. She was a 5 year old Black girl. Given up! So a White couple wanted to adopt her. The Black community was outraged! You don't know our culture they said! But NONE of them adopted the girl. The White couple did. They loved her like their own. Lectured that couple how awful they were for adopting a kid not of their race who was ignored BY their own! Lecture against abortion but expect others to pick up the pieces! So pro lifers, since you're unwilling to 'adopt' so to speak that pregnant mom forcing her to give birth with all the anti abortion crap going on, being there for her and her kid for the rest of YOUR lives, pro lifers, punting them both onto someone else, you have NO say on abortion!
Interesting fact I learned not long ago. Even though Denmark has some of the best abort laws regarding the choice for the women, not many women are taking it. Why? Experts point to the fact that Denmark are really good at educate teenagers at schools of different kind of protection and risks, but also have an easy acces to prevent pregnancy in the first place.
I’m danish and I have chosen abortion at one point because that was the only right thing for me at that point in my life. The key here is…MY LIFE.
In Denmark you don’t have to justify your choice with anything up until week 12 of your pregnancy. You go to the doctor and get referred to the hospital. Here you get a scan to ensure that the pregnancy is in the right place. Then you are asked to chose between a medical solution with pills our an operation under full anaesthesia. You as a women are treated with full respect and care at all time from absolutely everyone. Between week 12-20 you can get an abortion approved if the baby is to sick to survive, you become to sick, you where raped and haven’t told it to anyone before now etc.
An other important thing is that sex is something we talk about. Both parents, kids and teachers. They are thought in school how to protect them self and girls will in many cases get birth control pills from an early age. 1. To protect her from being a young mum. A kid should be a kid as long as possible, 2 because sex is not shameful! You just have to protect your self!
I have 3 kids now! With my boys i talk about they why they have to treat women and be aware of there body language. An no don’t have to be said out loud to be a now. We also discuss condoms as an natural thing. 2 with me girl we discuss how to say no and to protect them self.
We teach them and show them a way as a responsible parent.
If my kids gets pregnant ant any point in there life and wants an abortion then I will be right at there sides all the way.
I completely agree. And I think most would agree it just doesn’t make the mainstream media on either side. Too bad we can’t say my body my choice for experimental forced jabs where you must show your papers of being fully vaccinated.
@@patchworklove totally agree. I also think some people that simply don’t want abortion used as birth control get misrepresented as thinking all abortions are evil and unjustified period, and on the flip side people that aren’t pro life get made out to love abortion as if they are advocating to use it as birth control.
@@lucasribeiro8475 and pro choice shouldn’t only apply to abortions. So many l pro choice leftists also want enforced vaccine mandates
I am from sweden. Scandinavia does a good job of giving education about sex and protecting yourself. Also birth control is free or almost free. So easier to protect yourself. We also aren't as religious.
In 2018 I had a septic pregnancy . God knows how but the baby was inside me not alive for 2 whole months and no one from the hospital called me back in to sort it out . Even though they had told me that the baby’s heart beat was gone . They told me to wait and then come back . One night I became unresponsive and luckily my neighbour found me and called the ambulance. If I wouldn’t of gone in that night I would of been dead . It took two surgeries and two weeks in hospital to recover 😔
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Omg so glad your ok and im so sorry u had to go through that ❤️❤️
So sorry to hear that, Sophie. Glad you're still here with us despite the tragedy of it all.
I had a serious infection and the doctor never looked at the test results. They should be held accountable for negligence but they aren't.
A septic pregnancy infamously killed Savita Halappanavar in 2012. She was denied legal access to a safe abortion even though her child, which she _wanted,_ was already dead inside of her. One of the _many_ reasons why this medical procedure should remain _legal_ and _safe._
Thank goodness you're still alive, Sophie! I'm tremendously sorry for you loss, _honestly,_ but I'm _happy_ you're okay in the very least and I hope you _safely_ have some beautiful children in the future! Take care!
i am pro choice, and one thing i always say to pro life people whom i am debating with is that YOU don’t have to get abortion if you don’t want to/don’t agree with it. but you shouldn’t 1. have the right to make decisions over someone else’s life or body and 2. make someone feel horrible or disgusting because they had an abortion. nobody WANTS an abortion. but when they decide to do so, they shouldn’t be treated like criminals. it’s a very difficult thing to experience.
Yes thats right, tell them Army! 💜
Interesting. Say, do you share this sentiment with rape?
I think it's interesting you think people don't have a say over someone else's life or body. But your fine with them having a say on whether the child gets to have a life or body.... Double standard. Abortion is murder. You can't justify it
@@courtneycarlisle182 Taking the life of a fully grown adult who already has a life, family, friends, etc. is COMPLETELY different from terminating the pregnancy of an underdeveloped fetus. Stabbing someone to death is murder. You can call abortion murder all you want, but it really just doesn’t make sense. You don’t have to agree with abortion, but stop making people feel like sh*t because they had one.
@@halebopp4747 If i understand your question correctly, i don’t think people who have been raped and impregnated should be forced to have that baby. They shouldn’t have that forced upon them and should have the option for abortion if wanted.
My wife got so much abuse for going to a clinic where they perform abortions.
She was picking ME up after I had had a vasectomy performed at the clinic (Marie Stopes Manchester)
Ouch!
Seriously? I'm a manc and now I'm totally ashamed. Workds gone mad.
@@crankypantsmcduff Don't be ashamed. Feel sorry for them 👍🏻
That sucks that your wife got abuse for going to a clinic where they do so many other things besides abortion
Hope you two are doing alright
@@Ax-xo4ux it is down to sheer ignorance.
I’m from the city where Savita lived. We hold vigils for her every year. I can’t put into words how moving it is every single time. I don’t think Ireland hasn’t been the same since her passing
I live in Dublin as well, I remember that case. That poor woman died in absolute agony for the sake of draconian Catholic belief. It was awful and utterly embarrassing for the Irish government and hse. It's a shame that's what it took for people to wake up and get the clergy out of medicine and state.
Who passed.?
I’m Pro-life but her case is different because she was already having a miscarriage and her life was in danger, in those circumstances I think an abortion is ethical.
@@banjosandbullets Savita.
@@nate2759 There's nothing different, she requested a medical procedure for herself and a government & a religion denied her the right to save herself. There's nothing ethical about that situation.
Her empathy for a vulnerable human in need, during one of the most vulnerable experience of their life. God energy speaking through this woman.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g if men had to carry the child abortion wouldn't even be a question. You want to control women's bodies.
If you don't want a parasite in your body growing you get medicine to prevent and take care of curing it.
A fetus is no different. We are overpopulated with millions if not billions in poverty, starving and unloved. If you believe it's murder, go sign up to adopt thousands of unwanted babies being born. Pay for their care.
Oh no? Don't want to? Then shut the fuck up and keep your opinion to yourself.
A shameless killer.
This woman is brainwashed and not serving God believe me
You can feel her emotions through her voice
@ActSmart BeSmart bruh😂😂
You can hear she is incredibly unstable - like most women who use abortions as an excuse for their irresponsibility.
@@TheAntzh lmaooo
Yes, all very contrived. Great piece of pro abortion propaganda riddled with the usual inaccuracies.
@@TheAntzh lmaooooo
I live in Poland, where the anti-abortion law is insanely restrictive, to the point you pretty much can't get it at all. Just a couple of months ago a lady died at the hospital because her water broke prematurely, the fetus was dying but its heart was still beating so the hospital did nothing and she died of sepsis. They did nothing, they left her to die in the hospital bed. Her name was Izabela and she was from Pszczyna. It's heartbreaking and scary to think that you can go to the emergency room, your life is in danger but you're not given the help you need because... what? Why?
Its terrible. No woman needs to be pregnant if she doesnt want to, like no woman needs to be forced to abort if she dont want to.
Women's bodies are NOT public property!
How often is this, and ahould abortion be easy access because of this? I have horror stories about abortions but should they be illegal because of those?
@@WHATISUTUBE Abortion is a human right - to make decisions about your own health and body. That's why it has to be accessable. And what kind of question is "how often is this"? How often does a person who's life is in danger go to a hospital and is denied help and left to die? It doesn't matter how often, this should never happen, ever. If someone went to a hospital with a heart attack and wasn't given any help and just died there, wouldn't that be ridiculous and outrageous? It's the exact same situation.
@@WHATISUTUBE The point is, it should be up to the pregnant person. They should be able to access the information about the risks of abortion and make their own choice. They should be able to go to a hospital in distress and choose their existing life over the potential life of a fetus.
@@skyethebard Im not entirely against abortion, Im just telling you that depending on what you consider "life", there is an incredibly strong legal argument that abortions are infanticide.
I live in the South, in Northern Florida to be exact. My healthcare provider refused me an abortion and I had to drive HOURS to find a facility that would provide one. The provider my original OB referred me to still hasn’t returned my calls (over a year later). As well, the OB refused to provide me birth control. Yes, in the USA there are still OBGYNs that can refuse you birth control. I had to drive to the next major city to get birth control, thankfully not as far. However, what about the women who don’t have transportation or the money to go to another city for healthcare? It’s such a strange world.
Shameless killer.
Big respect for this lady, her courage and professionalism should be appreciated way more.
She facilitates the deliberate ending of life by violent means...
what if they are raped??
@@freddiehandley278 if they are raped, if the conditions of the fetus are really bad, if the mother cannot face a pregnancy, if she cannot provide, and the list goes on...
@@donniecatalano I meant to reply to “mama Kate” sorry yes I’m with you on this matter
@@freddiehandley278 sure, no problem, I got that cheers
It's unfortunate that it took a woman dying before they changed the law. No matter anyone's personal beliefs, her life and her health should be the priority.
Irish people voted in the 90s that an abortion is allowed in cases that would be necessary to save the mother's own life. The government just hadn't written the law.
We all die, so what is your point? No one can guarantee tomorrow. so lets kill to live.
@@lindacosgrove7918 I don't think I understand what you're asking/saying. Are you saying we should not allow abortions because we're all going to die someday?
@@VanessaMarieBooks no one should murder another person. Not to long ago democrats used to say “abortion should be rare” now it’s going as far as abortion on demand even past birth (baby is not wanted can be left to die 28 days later) this is murder. Colorado has passed this, Maryland is considering this. This is not science; life begins at conception, no excuses. Please don’t give me “gray areas” we all will die and no one is guaranteed tomorrow. Ruth Ginsburg a pro- abortion justice even said Roe v Wade was very weak, this will be overturned and will go back to states, so women can drive to states that perform baby killing.
@@lindacosgrove7918 It's impossible to "abort" a baby once it's born, so yes I'd agree with you at that point it is murder. You said Colorado passed this and Maryland is considering it, do you have any sources to show this? "We all will die and no one is guaranteed tomorrow," you're right about this as well, but my question is why does a fetus get more rights than the women that are already here?
Also, the primary goal of abortions is not to "kill a baby," the goal is to terminate the pregnancy. Usually this is done early in pregnancy which means unfortunately the embryo/fetus will die as it is unable to survive outside of the womb at that stage. If it's possible to terminate the pregnancy WITHOUT the fetus dying (meaning they are viable outside of the womb), then that's what they'll do. This is about a women's bodily autonomy and NO ONE gets to use her body without consent, even if it is her child.
Let me ask this, if a child has a terminal illness and needs an organ to survive, are we going to force their parents to donate their organ to them? Sure a lot of parents may happily give their child their organ (depending on the organ), but no one is going to FORCE that parent to donate their organ to the child EVEN if it means the child will end up dying. So again, why are we giving a fetus more rights than someone who is already here?
I had to have an abortion due to an ectopic pregnancy last year. As heartbreaking and devastating as it was for me as we really wanted our baby, I am so glad that I was able to access the healthcare I needed so that I didn’t rupture my Fallopian tube and need emergency surgery or die from internal bleeding. As much as I believe that babies lives are valuable and precious, mothers lives are valuable and precious too.
No one stops you from such life threatening situations, not when it is out of convenience
Uhm there are no laws restricting treatment for ectopic pregnancy. Even with strict abortion laws doctors have to treat you. Baby cannot survive outside of the uterus. If Fallopian tube ruptures baby dies and mother is at risk of dying. Doctors cannot refuse to treat a woman with a molar pregnancy as well. These are unviable pregnancies that directly put the mother in danger. Anti- Abortion laws will never affect these.
That's not the same as choosing to have one
So you’re confessing you’re a murderer, right?
@@BloomTheFirst god, so unfortunate somebody chose to have a soul like yourself. This is why abortion should be legal.
Emphasis on the, “I’m a carer of women and pregnant people”
And a killer of unborn babies
@@flightcomputer2437 not even born yet who gives af
Cringe
@@Sturridge_FPL People with morals, that's who.
@@Sturridge_FPL what so the vagina is a portal or something,does it grant a person their humanity.Its a human life
Savita was my dentist, rip. She was so lovely.
@@halebopp4747 Surely a real living human life is more important than some potential life that has left no impact on the world
@@halebopp4747 you've lost it mate
@@BoboTMC It’s life, not potential life. I’m also not a utilitarian, I don’t value individuals based on their “impact” on the world.
@@halebopp4747 why regret something that wasnt even here??? Legit affects your life in no way
@@winkblue6851 It’s there, otherwise there would be no need to “remove” (murder) the individual in the womb. And believe it or not the ideological fabric of the society around me does very much affect me
its amazing how much passion this women has for her patients
Totally agree, and when she said she didn't have a second thought about working in the "industry" of abortion it shows how important this work is to her.
For killing human beings inside the womb.
GOD WILL JUDGE THIS HE HEARS THE CRIES OF THE SHEDDING OF INNOCENT BLOOD. I beg of anyone of you who have done this act of abortion to REPENT AND ASK forgiveness to JESUS CHRIST. He still loves you but don’t read this message without asking Jesus to Forgive you of that sin.
Matthew 18:6
“If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
@@user-bm3un3ct2g humans that aren't conscious
Hope none of you ever need a life saving abortion or know anyone who does
I just feel like I need to mention just because someone is pro-choice, doesn't mean they are going to get an abortion every time they are pregnant! They might just be pro-choice for everyone else, but are pro-life with their body.
Thank you, as a pro-choice person I’m fine with anyone else getting an abortion since it doesn’t affect me , but I would personally not get one unless it’s needed
I think everybody knows that?
Everyone who support killing human beings inside the womb is pro-abortion.
@@Haylla2008 sadly no many anti-choice people will use this stupid “argument” to try and justify the way the impose their ideas on others
"Sure you can kill your baby but doesn't mean I'm going too" 🤣🤣 good for you? Why exactly do you feel the need to mention it?
We actually had a poll about this in class and fyi I attend a Christian school, almost everyone voted against abortion including our teacher. I think people just don’t know what it’s like in certain situations and they’re quick to judge which is frequently the case in discussions like these. I never understood why “because it could’ve been a LIVING child” was a ‘good’ argument. And I never will.
This woman...is an absolute gem of a human being. Savita's death gave me my unwavering opinion on abortion needing to always be an option. I put myself in the place of her husband, and decided I would never be able to forgive the doctors who's inaction led to the death of Savita.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g You are not pro life.
Ever watched handmaids tale? Maybe you should give it a try.
The woman in this story is brave and strong and will continue her path;if you like it or you don't.
A shameless killer who kill human beings inside the womb.
Removing a miscarried baby is not an abortion. Much like having an ectopic pregnancy removed. An abortion is when a child, who is thriving in the womb, is killed. Every means of abortion is torture. The pill basically starves the baby to death. Surgically, they are ripped apart while alive. If people are going to support barbaric procedures, they need to look into exactly what they are. And it has been proven time and again that the child can feel it and often they are seen fighting for their lives.
The bravery this woman showed sitting down for this, when so many people will say she m*rders babies. She is a healthcare provider, she is a woman, she is so strong and beautiful. Bless you and thank you ma’am for having this conversation with us today. ❤️
Still murders babies lol. I’m pro-abortion, but let’s not beat around the bush lmao
@@BlackHawk2901 you mean pro-choice????
J Kozy it’s a termination of a pregnancy, for any given reason. But it doesn’t make somebody a m*rderer. Health care providers, helping a patient through what is always a difficult decision. Not somebody killing another person out of hate, greed, or any other malicious intent.
Strong? For what killing innocent babies who can't defend themselves?,some strength👍and she does murder babies, the vagina doesn't grant a child their humanity, they are no different from us,the women might say she's not financially ready for the baby which her and her partner should've been well before having sexual intercourse so don't kill the baby for that,and they're not stupid there is plenty of adoption centre being opened everyday,just because the women does not want it,doesn't mean that baby does not want to live,and a woman has full choice over body I agree just like anybody on this planet and so should that child,that child should be able to cherish and grow up and enjoy life like any other human being
Shes still a murderer
I'm not pro-“murdering babies”.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
Well said.
I’m very anti abortion because I feel compassion for the fetus and can’t conceive the thought of it being dismembered for birth control reasons alone, but these are pretty strong arguments here.
@@nancym.jaramillo43
I don’t think it is about having abortion legal or illegal. If you make it illegal women will literally die, abortion is sometimes what is needed. I think it is about where we draw the line. What should be the restrictions and so on. In what situations is it okay.
This is a beautiful statement, beautifully written.
@@dicksmashermicrocock7984 if abortion is legal human babies will literally die. If it’s illegal women trying to murder babies will die. I choose the second choice
This should be shown everywhere. She’s an incredible human!
Incredible human!? For what taking life away,why,we don't have the right to take life away,that child has the right to life just like you and me and everyone on this planet,just because it's in the womb they think it's not human or its just a fetus it's not a baby yet,they think the vagina grants he or she their humanity,and fetus means offspring and offspring means small child so they kill small innocent children just because they're not financially stable,which her and he roadtner should've been, even before sexual intercourse and there is plenty of adoption centres being open every single day,and there is nothing incredible about taking away human life if anything if a woman is financially unstable and feels like she's not ready but still delivers and takes care of that baby no matter what, that incredible!
@@risevision1080 good lord.
Astonishing levels of cope on display here.
He said adoption was the alterative right? How does that make his logic flawed?
@@zealferal wow what a convincing argument
@Jenny Ghosh it's her fault she should've been financially ready well before her and her partner decided to have sexual intercourse,there is no excuse for it,it's not the babies fault they decided to create him/her when they weren't financially ready so if they can't take care of it there is plenty of adoption agency's out there
Bless this woman, who truly is PRO-CHOICE..... for women to make their own decisions about their bodies and their lives ♡♡♡
A shameless killer.
I love how 90% of the comments that are against abortion bring up religion. Fucking accept that not everyone believes your religion, and doesn't fucking have to. Leave the poor woman alone.
Thanks for your comments. For new ideas
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Amen!
It’s even worse when not all religious people even agree on abortion, it makes their argument even weaker
I unfortunately had to have an abortion done when I was 18 (for reasons I don’t wish to get into). I’m now with a man that is incredibly religious, probably the most religious person I’ve met, but full heartedly stands with my decision for an abortion and the reasons why I got one
The fact that you are not religious doesn't give you the right to spew profane words in the comments of a serious public discussion. Or you have no morals, maybe because you are not religious. Still you don't have the right. bad words or even passionate words are not arguments. We can hear about your feelings too but we don't want to hear about your dirty boundless anger. RUclips should censor people like you not people who have a religion. Shame on you, RUclips.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Boo fucking hoo. People that are actually born die everyday.
I'm an Indian and I remember Savita. She was an Indian and she died because of Ireland's laws. The nation cried for her. RIP.
shes helped many many women and I commend her for it. It must be hard recieving hate for doing such a helpful and serious thing.
@Jenny Ghosh Stop using that terrible argument. Most abortions are not because the mother is unable to take care of the child, but that she doesn't want the child. Nowadays people talk like unless you have a perfect life with a large income, then having a child will be too difficult or something; mothers throughout history have gone through hell and back with their children, having little money or bad living conditions, but they kept going, because they were selfless, and loving.
You telling the other poster to take care of other people's children is ridiculous, you're actually saying "take care of this child, otherwise we'll kill it"; parents have a responsibility to raise their own children, not anyone else. look at yourself Jenny, this is evil and twisted.
@Jenny Ghosh see,sexism you trip over your words,women tend to blame men and say men can't say this or that because it's their body,it takes two to create life,not one!,I think most women tend to "forget" that
@Jenny Ghosh and can't "trans males" give childbirth?,I think you forgot that aswell,so don't give that excuse either that men can't give childbirth,because in today's sick world men can have children too
@@risevision1080 thank you for being a voice of reason and compassion
@@andrewchristie2970 you too
I wish more people around the world had the compassion of this wonderful human. You’re welcome to have a difference of opinion, you are not welcome to attempt to destroy the lives of people who’s situations you know nothing about.
What a beautiful example of humanity.
You don't think the mass extermination of millions of babies every year counts as destroying lives?
@@rs4208 youre literally braindead and ignorant to what he, and the woman in the video, has just said. pro life is literally a WRONG 'opinion'
@@rs4208 Short answer, no.
@@rs4208 Short answer, no.
@@sxmdt Absolutely.
she seems like such a wonderful person, thank god we have workers like her. So much respect
Thank the devil not God
@@peteosowski5788 in your opinion.
@@garar5613 Don't worry when die you will be with him and have eternity to thank him
@@garar5613 You obviously don't know what hell is
@@tenaciousduk6587 I take it you don't know what the bible is
As an RN who has worked labor and delivery, post natal, ICU, psych, and med surg… I feel so hard for my sister here. In America the accessibility of healthcare in general is abysmal. Let alone having those fortunate enough to receive healthcare also be in a state with reasonable abortion laws and regulations? If you like the lottery you’ll absolutely LOVE our new game called reproductive rights roulette!
Abortion kills a human being.
Thank you for your service to the female healthcare industry. Repealing the 8th was such a powerful moment for us women.
I've been a patient of maternity services 4 times, only 1 was joyous, I left with my beautiful child. The three other times I sadly miscarried. Despite my tragic losses I will never ever judge another woman who choses to terminate her pregnancy. No woman happily skips into an abortion clinic. Raise each other up, don't tear each other down.
Sending you love Morag, Thank you for sharing with us. 💚
@@anna-zs3oy Thank you m'dear!
@@user-bm3un3ct2g That's your opinion.
@@LoonZoomBoo don't reply or feed into those trolls just report the comments.
Women like you have my respect! Thank you so much for sharing this!❤
Wow what a story.
The sad part about this is we all aparrently live in a pro choice world. until that choice is against what someone else believes then pro choice no longer exists?
If it wasnt for services like this i may have lost my wife and we may have never been able to have the beautiful family that we now have.
That's so nice to hear! God bless!❤
@@user-bm3un3ct2g You just read this person's story and you still think it's okay to say that? It exactly shows how immature you can be!
medical reasons ? 5% of all abortions.
Well where's the choice of the baby? What happens when an attempt at abortion fails because the baby is struggling for life? Or when they end up being born but severely injured because of what has been done to them? That doesn't really take into account this young person's choice to live does it? You can clearly see when a baby is born that they have all the necessary functions and drive to live, one might call that a choice to live, to experience the world around them... But when they are inside the womb it is ok to take away that choice? To make it so the baby never gets the opportunity to make any choice ever again?
I'm glad you have your wife and a lovely family, but make no mistake, loss of human life is always a sad thing, no matter how young that life is. It's not something that should be celebrated.
So you mean you'd rather his wife dead for the child to be born? Obviously the life of an adult person is more valuable than an unbotn baby. I'm not saying the baby's life is not worth saving but when you have to make a choice you'd know which is more important. Do you think he and his wife are not sad and depressed that their child had died? And you have to rub salt on their wounds and call them murderers. I bet you don't care about every single babies in the world. Why don't you go and help those who are orphans instead of being on the internet calling people this and that.
We need more people like her, great words, such a wonderful human ✨
Wonderful in what sense? Killing innocent babies,or stopping them from enjoying life like you and me,what do wonderful about sticking a needul into that baby full of poisonous chemicals or ripping it's limbs off slowly,yet the have the audacity to say oh it's just cells, well all of us are just cells are bones and organs are made up of cells everything about us is made up of cells,they think just becaus sits inside the womb "oh it's a parasite" or "it's a fetus" yet fetus means offspring and offspring means small child so they basically kill small children,yet they could easily just put them into an adoption agency or centre,but no they simply just want to kill it like it does not feel it!
@@risevision1080 you're literally under every comment get a life mate
@@QuantumRngd nah I'll get a life when all those lives been taking away will stop being taking away just because you can't face facts,don't get frustrated mate
@Jenny Ghosh ignorant,I'm the ignorant one when I'm trying to save those innocent lives out there that have arms and legs and a head but all you can do is get ignorant or not listen,that's ignorant!,me trying to make sure those poor little children have the right to cherish and enjoy life just like you and me and everyone on this planet,that's me contributing to help save life,so what do you do,contribute to murdering it?,just shows people like you will bring humanity down to the ground;
@@risevision1080 have fun spending your entire life advocating for something that will not change
Forcing a woman to carry to term against their will is cruel and unusual punishment.
The pro-birthers don't care about women. They value fetuses much more for some reason.
Murdering your unborn child is cruel and unusual punishment.
@@ryanscaggs1674 it isn't an unborn child, it's a fertilised egg or fetus. Use of the term 'murder' is just overly emotionally charged and sensationalist.
Women have the right to determine what happens to their bodies. It's as simple as that.
You wouldn't forcibly remove someone else's blood in order to save a newborn baby's life, for the exact same reason.
@@darcymr353 life starts at conception, 96% of biologists agree. It is a baby with different DNA and oftentimes has a beating heart. I'm sorry you've been lied to and indoctrinated into this thinking that its justified to murder your unborn child that you voluntarily conceived. Only in cases of rape or incest, which make up less than 1% of abortions, would it be justified and even then i would strongly suggest that that child should be given an opportunity at life regardless of how they were conceived. God bless you, and i pray you see how grotesque arguing in defense of the genocide of 60+ million innocent lives is. 🙏
@@ryanscaggs1674 you're just repeating yourself. I know you think it's murder. Are you trying to imply that you would therefore condone forced blood removal in order to save lives? If you disregard a woman's bodily autonomy, your logic could be used to justify removing anyone's bodily autonomy to save the lives of others.
When the abortions rights bill came up in New Zealand for amendment to make access to abortion services for women to be easier, i was asked "What will you be voting?" my answer was always the same, "I am Pro Life and Pro Choice. To bring life into this world is an amazing thing, and should be celebrated, and a joyful thing, but, we as women should have final say over what happens to OUR bodies, not the government, not the religious institutions, and certainly not someone who is not involved in the making of that choice." I was told that i was supporting the murder of babies and that i was a monster, my response has always been the same, "You have asked me for my opinion on this subject. This is my body, this is my life, this is my Choice, and i would thank you to remember and respect that, just as i respect your opinions and choices."
Abortion kills a human being.
i have no respect for your stance whatsoever and i find the pro choice movement disgusting. by the very definition pro life implies that you are opposed to the other side which advocates for the option or “choice” to take life. you are not pro life. you are pro choice but would not have an abortion. and maybe you’ll bend on that when it becomes convenient for you. you either believe abortion is unjustifiable murder or you do not and you clearly do not despise abortion or believe it to be morally wrong. be honest with yourself. i cannot imagine you’re able to take yourself seriously saying that life is to be celebrated but only when it’s wanted to be celebrated. what is your standard for anything?? just your feelings in that moment?
@@jaidensprout I cannot imagine that you're able to take yourself seriously saying that life is to be celebrated but a woman should be left to die rather than terminate her pregnancy.
@@jaidensprout "I find your stance disgusting." Then be disgusted I guess? lol
@@cheyennestirling2365 right. that was my point. she said we should just respect each other’s viewpoints but we have opposing stances because we find the other to disregard human rights(whether that be the right to life or the right to a “woman’s choice”)
I love her, so glad there are people like her here in Ireland.
@@誠-f9c Yep she saves lives by getting rid if a few tiny cells. Shes killer brilliant :)
@@user-bm3un3ct2g haha
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Hahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 Ok.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g actually whether she does 0 abortions of 1000, her pay is the same. she has no monetary incentive
@@user-bm3un3ct2g what would you rather happen for the unwanted baby? To be born when the mother might not be in a good living condition or the baby go into foster care with a chance of being abused? I was born to drug addicted parents and then got adopted at 5yrs old and I've had trauma of sexual abuse, I'd rather of been aborted to not go through all the bs I went through which still affects my life everyday.
What an incredible woman.
A seriously beautiful person.
why? bc she kills babies?
A shameless killer who kill human beings inside the womb.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Always the same lame response;hm?
@@user-bm3un3ct2g You have some problems. Try yoga .
@@estherhelbig4207 A shameless killer who kill human beings inside the womb.
The world needs more caring and compassionate healthcare providers like this woman. ❤️
She murders children.
So the world needs more killers
A shameless killer.
I doubt the dead children think so
What about the life of that beautiful baby. 😞
Incredible woman. We need more people to hear her. Especially in POLAND where our government recently prohibited even abortions of fatally ill foetuses, unable to live after birth.
Damn..
Abortions should only be allowed in certain cases
@@dankus.memeokus4192 No. Abortion is the mother's choice, and her choice alone. You are not the patient, and you are not her doctor. You do not decide what is best for the patient. Limiting access to healthcare under _any_ circumstances is _never_ ok.
@@uzaiyaro I agree
Poland is going backwards in this regard
As a midwife practising in the England I commend Caoilfhionn for educating the public and sharing her experiences. The public notion of what a midwife is is only part of the picture. We are advocates for women and their informed choices. For those strongly against abortion all I ask is that you consider the outcome of unwanted pregnancies that are not terminated. As a midwife I have seen that this can be very negative for the baby/child as well as the woman
You're advocating the killing of babies unless there is an risk to the health of the mother it should not be a choice to kill it, This world is falling deeper and darker.
@@johndouglas4826 so why don't you pay for all the childcare for all those unwanted or accidental kids that their parents couldn't take care of
@@anasbouhtatdiba6502 You do realise how many people are on adoption waiting lists? You don't kill a child because of money that's even worse.
@@anasbouhtatdiba6502 bro trying to justify murdering a child because he would be unwanted is a really rough look
@@johndouglas4826 The duty of a midwife is to advocate for a woman's choice. That is what I signed up for and will forever uphold. I am not saying it is an easy decision but it should be theirs. There is also evidence and research as to why abortions are only legal in the early stages of pregnancy. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. My duty to women remains unwavering
She is helping so many people. Good for her. We have enough unwanted children living on the system and on the streets. We don't need more. I'm glad they have the choice. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. Just don't try and stop someone else for their choices.
If you don't want a kid don't have sex.
And just look at all the children sent to the Catholic homes because they were "illegitimate" and allowed to die from neglect and malnutrition and lack of healthcare. The Catholic church is not pro life, it is pro birth.
@@countdamoney8128 It's not her problem that you interpreted her comment that way. She was not implying that the children are the problem. She's talking about how these children were forced to live these miserable lives in the streets and the system when it could of easily been avoided if their parent just had the choice. It's so sad seeing these kids suffer. They don't deserve to suffer. Why not stop it before the suffering can even commence? These anti-choice people care about a person not going through with their pregnancy but you don't see them caring about the children who are a production of these unwanted pregnancies.
@@ec6933 no
no you have to balance the rights of the baby inside the mother and obviously the mother herself
Thank you Caoilfhionn for everything you do and thank you for advocating for us Irish women. I've endless respect and gratitude for you, your amazing.
Why?
For killing human beings inside the womb...
Unilad should really have someone sitting monitoring comment sections on videos like this. A healthy debate and a personal attack are two different things
@@oOoJeeoOo you have just proved @vicki Mac Callum’s point. You are not willing to debate or rationally discuss both sides.
@@tenaciousduk6587 Agreed. It's fine to have differring opinions but not ok to accuse someone's morals.
“Monitoring comment sections”. Uhh ok Karen.
@@oOoJeeoOo exactly. If someone wants to use their body to place a sharp object inside someone else's body in a fit of rage then that's their business and noone else's.
@@oOoJeeoOo so by your logic you would be okay allowing a child to drink smoke and take drugs because it's there body and it's none of your business?
Before I went into nursing I was anti choice. Reality and science and humanity changed my false views. I am now both pro-life and pro-choice and have been for decades. I was raised Catholic and was indoctrinated by the Church and by 12 years of Catholic school education. Thank God that education rescued me.
Amen to that.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Abortion also saves lives.
I'd agree with the life saving kind of Abortion, but lets be real here- most abortions are done by perfectly healthy women who rather avoid the inconvenience. And this is where most of the sin lies. No body is saying you can't have one if your life is TRULY on the line, by all means save the woman- but don't hide mounds of sin under this one act of mercy and say it is right.
Have you not heard, that It is better for a person to tie a millstone around their legs and dropped into the abyss than to hurt these little ones? Reality? Science? Is progress so important ? I would rather we all ride horse and buggy than kill babies.
@@dwolfe2907 A pregnancy should not be used ad a punishment. Pregnancy has very real, material risks for the person that is pregnant. In many countries, no maternity leave exists, meaning women have to give up months and months of pay to give birth.
You would rather go back to the 1800's and give up 150 years of progress in medicine and equality and better living for people, than allow people to have control their bodies?
Not everyone is religious - not everyone believes in sin. Not all religions consider abortion a sin.
@@christinewalsh3043
How ?
I'm pro abortion. It was 1987 and I was 28. One refused because of his religion the second didn't. The nurse who was supposed to explain the procedure decided to lecture me until I stopped her about adoption. I told her in no uncertain terms that her job was to explain the procedure and keep her politics out of it. It shocked her how determined I was. She explained it. It's interesting how the misled think abortion is a form of birth control but never say that about a man with a vasectomy that prevents conception as a form of birth control. It's also amazing how some men are against abortion until they don't want to be saddled with an unwanted kid and suddenly abortion is fine. My boyfriend at the time had a kid he refused to raise or give financial help to saying the mother didn't want it. He should've done it anyway. He was outraged that I didn't discuss my decision with him. He said because you refused to discuss it with me I'm not paying for it. Talk about confusion! I was 28, an adult, my decision, why on earth would I want him to pay for it! Mr. how Dare You Not Discuss It With Me wound up in prison for 8 years the following year. Not exactly father material. My medical decisions are mine and it's ridiculous to me that you don't pay for them yourself. Making the decision was easy. Going through it wasn't as I'd never had an operation of any kind. But I got garbage from the doctor with the are you sure? Are you sure? I told him it wasn't his place to question my decision. It took 3 years to find a doctor to sterilize me. Same garbage. Why! Are you sure? I got that done. Neither decision was hard. The doctor gave me too much anesthesia and I almost didn't wake up. Scared the nurse silly who was watching over me. Choice is choice! We don't need to explain, defend, justify or apologize for our decisions for any procedure! At 12 weeks it was small enough to be suctioned out by a tube. None of this tearing anything limb from limb. I'm fed up with pro lifers who want to decide for others be they men OR women. They're real big on telling you not to abort but do they bring the woman to their home? Pay for all medical expenses? Be there during labor? Be there at birth? Literally be a relative to help raise the kid? Of course not! Nor do they adopt all the unwanted kids in Children's Services. Legal or illegal we'll still do it. It's safer the legal way. To this day I feel no guilt. No regret. And no one will make me feel that way. And those who do abortions don't have to explain, defend, justify or apologize for giving a woman this health care need! If one doesn't believe in abortion great! Don't have one! No one asks your permission nor need your approval be it a woman having an abortion or from the one doing the abortion. The funniest complaint about abortion is the idea that you're paying for it. When you personally get the bill which you don't, you're not paying for it. It's no one else's business!
@@user-bm3un3ct2g news flash! I don't give a crap what you think!
@@Cha4k actually the fetus at 12 weeks was sucked out by a tube. And the father who already had a daughter refused to be part of her life or give money for her raising and a year later put himself in prison for 8 years on a gun charge. He was a shit father. And you're right. I would've been a shit mother because I despise human kids. I'm wonderful with my pet kids. I and my brother had a shit mother who was an alcoholic narcissist. How many kids by the way in Children's Services have YOU adopted lately! How many pregnant moms you think should give birth have YOU taken in until birth and helped raise her kid for the rest of your life! NONE, you self-righteous hypocrite!
@@user-bm3un3ct2g LOL! Better lock your doors and windows! BOO! Seriously though how many pregnant women have YOU taken in! How many throwaway unaborted kids have YOU adopted! NONE! Hypocrite!
Amen! I see no difference in nature, as we are part of it. In nature, if the animal doesn't have the resources for the young, the young don't make it. We are still in the animal kingdom. Just higher functioning. Hell, some mammals eat their young. Obviously this is extreme but there are reasons for everything is the point. People think women go out getting abortions like candy. It's ridiculous.
@@_Hello_4444 you're right.
I want to say thank you to Caoilfhionn Morris because her passion for her job, her beliefs, her hard work have saved so much grief and pain from so many women. It is amazing to witness that. Thank you Caoilfhionn Morris.
A shameless killer who kill human beings inside the womb.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g shut up
@@ecksdee9768 Opinionated first clause aside, is the second clause wrong? Or are you just upset at the truth?
@@ecksdee9768 shut up you.
Say it with me: RELIGION 👏🏼 DOES 👏🏼 NOT👏🏼CARE👏🏼ABOUT 👏🏼WOMEN👏🏼!!!
It’s time to let go of the guy in the sky!!!
Amen!
This needs to be spread far and wide. No one has a CLUE what a pregnant person is going through.
We need so many more like this hero. 💜
@@user-bm3un3ct2g killing babies is fine
@@user-bm3un3ct2g self defense
@@user-bm3un3ct2g uncle rob..kebeach nightlight...
thats right, i said...uncle rob...kebeach night..light
A shameless killer.
Amazing This one of the most Frank and real Conversations I've seen on abortion. Found myself crying with her And applauding at her statement when she said women don't Need to give a reason. I am so glad people like her exist And out there fighting every day for women's choice
A shameless killer.
I absolutely adore this woman! Thank you so much for all your doing to normalize all parts of healthcare.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g If you despise the killing of fetuses so much. How about you do something about the foster homes that are treated like dumpster bins for children because their mothers were forced to give birth? But of course not, because in real life pro life just means pro birth and thus gives no crap about the living children after the birth.
@@KL-ki8db the babies who were ripped limb from limb and their skulls crushed and vacuumed away are all clamoring for justice. The genocide of millions must end.
@@etiblmca9267 There are withered bodies of those children who have wasted away from hunger and dehydration most common amongst those who have been brought into this world as no one wanted them after birth. There are abused and bruised children who still live in horror with irreversible brain damage and trauma since they are only seen as punching bags or sex toys after birth by adults who are usually their own parents, unwanted to begin with. Also, you say skulls are crushed when some abortions are done before the second trimester as in the fetus is still a lump of cells. Same damage as having a bloody miscarriage. You may scream genocide, but you still have no intent or plan for those children who were in this world whose parents only allowed them to be born because they know that hypocrites such as yourself only care about the birth and not the rearing of a child.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Neglecting and ignoring the choices or rights of raped women isn’t justice nor is the consideration of lethal genetic diseases a child may have like Tay Sachs, being born is even moderately helpful.
@@user-bm3un3ct2gCome up with something original please, you deleted your old comment and just reposted it.
It's insane that men think it's their right to force women to go through nine month of pregnancy which can be very traumatic and damaging to their body, then through birth it self, because the man raped them, or has left them, and the man themselves will likely have no consequences for the pregnancy.
I think it's also important to remember that doctors can't force people to be organ donors to save someone's life, or to donate blood, so why do people think it's okay to force women to go through 9 months of pregnancy and birth (let along the 18+ years of rasing the child if they don't want to put it up for adoption) to save the 'life' of a clump of cells. It is literally proposing that dead people have more rights then women, even if you consider life to begin at conception and a clump of cells to be equivalent to a fully grown adult.
And even after all of that you say the children can just go to foster care and a loving family, I would like to remind you that currently 120,000 children are waiting to be adopted at the moment, so there is simply too many for them all to live a happy ever after, it is not ethical
are there no female doctors where you live? who exactly are these 'men' you are talking about? (well, condemning rather) or is perhaps another agenda that you have? I'l have to ask my dad if he forced my mum through 9 months of torture just so he could have me - or I might ask my mum the same question -the other way round!!
Not just men
The foster care system and group homes are often inadequate to say the least. Children often end up being severely abused in every way and end up with severe mental and physical health issues, not uncommonly reenacting the exact abuse they suffered. Children suffering and being lost in a broken system is not a good alternative to abortion and it never will be.
yeah ill mail any girl in the world the abortion pills who needs them especially over some shit like that , hell no , not on my time , not while im alive.
@@NaNa-re3wc Yeah I work in a grouphome and as a PCA. Love the job, love my facility - but these kids have all been in horrible placements. Our foster care system and adoption system is a joke. Like if I got pregnant and couldn't afford to have a kid, I wouldn't even think about putting them up for adoption - I'd abort. There's not a single kid in the system who hasn't been abused.
When is the rapture so we can be free of these religious fanatics once and for all? Please go be with Jesus and leave us alone with our science, logic, and freedom.
One day, religion will become a distant memory, and its extemely rare remaining cases will be treated as a mental disorder it really is. Sad that none of us will live long enough to see it.
@@alanna_weiss this is the true pandemic we've been living through, for thousands of years. Religion is a plague on us all.
My husband and I planned a pregnancy. We were so happy when I got pregnant and it was the happiest time of my life. Sadly, due to actions outside of my control, we lost this much wanted pregnancy. I had to have a D and C for the sake of my life. I am glad I had the procedure because if the laws were different I could have ended up like Savita Halappanar
Now that procedure is illegal where I'm at. Even to save the mothers life😥
I cant imagine the most joyous thing in your life is being a baby oven for a man that sees you as a sexual appliance.
@@brookebenton8192 which is a good thing of course
@@clamantpenny1878 so fricking good. I can't wait when I or my sister or best friend or my girlfriend will die bc this stupid law ❤️
@@aanimavilis1492 me too 😊 can’t wait for them to die either 😀!!
I was 7 months pregnant with pre-eclampsia. I was admitted to a CATHOLIC hospital. They took many ultrasounds & never told me that the infant would die before, or shortly after being born. There were obvious defects that could've been seen by ultrasounds. None of his organs were normal, his eyes didn't develop, his brain was severely damaged, a big hole in his heart, the deformities go on & on. It was Trisomy 13. Because this was a CATHOLIC hospital, they didn't let me know anything. After the baby was born by emergency caesarean at 8 months, (I had general anesthesia, so I was asleep), they sent the baby to a non-catholic hospital. Three days later I finally saw him & was told about all the deformities & prognosis. My husband & I put a Do Not Resuscitate on him. He was gone when he was 12 days old. Yes I would've aborted, had I known.
That's sad. His life was worth a lot even if it was a short life. Saying it would have been better to kill him in the womb is horrific and selfish because you are valuing your feelings of uncomfortableness (because you didn't want a baby who would have major health problems) over a life. A human life.
@@meredithc4735 that's a fucked up thing to say. Having an abortion in this case would have been the right thing to do. That baby was in agony for it's entire life. People like you just prove that "pro-lifers" don't care about the babies, you care about the fetuses, you care about controlling women.
You are an absolute psychopath for saying these things to a mother who had to see her baby suffer for 12 days. Shame on you.
@@meredithc4735 She would've known for sure that the child was going to die, if she had been informed properly, so why prolong the suffering of the child?
Getting an abortion in such a case is not selfish at all.
@@jamiececilielange5249 yes it is. There is a big difference between the child dying naturally from medical reasons and killing an innocent child. The difference between you and me is that when you see suffering, you want to run and make it go away. For you, if someone suffers, it is ok to do whatever moral decision one wants. For me, I believe in Jesus Christ and life and suffering have meaning. I do not kill others or want others killed so their suffering can go away. I prefer to help the person who is suffering. In this case, that means if the baby is born and going to die, I am going to wrap that baby up in my arms, feed that baby with my body and hold him in my arms until his last breathe. I believe the pain of loving and losing is worth it and that killing that baby is a very selfish act to spare the parent's broken heart.
@@meredithc4735 Both choices would've been hard. I see no meaning in children suffering.
My dad had multiple sclerosis, and I didn't see any meaning in his suffering either - and he suffered a lot the last 5 years of his life until his natural death.
If you had a cat or dog that was suffering and would eventually die, would you euthanize it? I'm asking out of curiousity.
I can't phantom how badly people want to control someone else's uterus. Pregnancy has made me extremely sick to where I could not function. I had to leave my job, because I couldn't get out of bed. Throwing my guts out multiple times a day. The pain was unreal that I don't even wish that upon my worst enemy. Im sure women who go through these experience like myself are told to just deal with it or wait it out. It's the most pain and discomfort I've been in my whole life, yet a man is suppose to tell me to just deal with it? I think it's sick that these choices are made for women when no body has any idea how it feels or what a person is going through. My husband watched how weak I became and even though he does not like abortions he sat down with me and said he totally understands if I need to make that decision, because he saw how bad off I was. My mom almost died from the same thing which is HG. It has gotten a little better, but still awful. This pregnancy will leave me traumatized & to never do this to myself again. Like she said, a women should not have to even explain why she is getting an abortion. Imagine you feel like you're dying inside so much that it feels like torture and everyone around you is telling you just to deal with it, because they have no idea how it feels. Thats how ignorant people are. Some people can't afford a child, some people had everything going for them when they became pregnant and then boom their partner leaves. So, many reasons and no one should have a say. It is actually very weird for someone to care so much about what someone does to their body. People love to say that "Oh, but the baby isn't her body." Well, yes it very much is, because without her there would not be a fetus therefore her decision comes 1st no matter what. If you can't cure a women's illness, if you can't take away that pain for her, if you can't pay the bills she no longer can afford for having a child, and if you can't support her through whatever is holding her back from having a child, then the decision does not and will never concern you. People have a lot of opinions &
1. I'm so sorry that you experienced this. 2. I completely agree with your reasoning.
People never want to suffer for another person another life we are all so selfish.
Abortion kills a human being every single time.
@@Annah7373 You obviously don't know how bad it can get.
Nobody wants to tell you what to do with your uterus but you should learn about how your uterus works so you can make educated decisions that don't involve killing children in the womb.
This woman rocks, when she said anti choice I’m just. UGH YEAH! It don’t help that half the prolifers are men. Oh the HUGE IRONY.
A shameless killer.
If half of the pro-lifers are men then doesn't that mean the other half are women? Which is equal footing 🙄.
Most pro-life people are women.
yaaaas queen, child sacrifice is AMAZING. lol, you are so lost, i pity you, your parents must have done a number on you.
Well yes half the prolifers would probably be men because men make up half the population?
I had an MTOP in March earlier this year which is a medical termination of pregnancy due to foetal anomaly which in our case was anencephaly which is a neural tube defect where the skull had not fully formed so my baby girls brain was exposed - this is a fatal condition and is not compatible with life. I was told my baby could not survive, I would be lucky to get to full term and if I did she would most likely be still born or may live a few hours. I bled out after delivering my little girl and was rushed for emergency surgery and several blood transfusions I’m very lucky to be here today. This was a very much wanted pregnancy which unfortunately had no happy ending. RIP my beautiful little Angel ❤️ x
I am very sorry for your loss ❤️
I’m so sorry for your loss
i love her passion for what she does. she’s so educated and well spoken love to see this 💞
A shameless killer who kill human beings inside the womb.
Well done on coming on here and educating, hopefully this gives a positive impact
Nah mate so what killing and taking away life is a positive impact? If they do not want it,give it to an adoption centre,there's plenty being open every single day,just because they're not financially stable,which is their faults they should've tought about that well before sexual intercourse,but no instead they don't want to take any effort to take responsibility of that child and instead kill it
@@risevision1080 If they didn't want the child in the first place, they'd have to give up their body for 9 months and go through the pain of child birth just to instantly give the child away. Women should have control over their body. Also, a foetus has no right to be born, and human rights only apply at the point of birth, therefore the wishes of the mother should always take priority over an unborn child. Also if you are the child who has been adopted, your quality of life is going to be a shit show - they're probably going to wonder why their mother didn't want them, and they'll spend a great portion of their life feeling isolated. Even if the mother did decide to keep the child, didn't put it up for adoption but were still struggling to raise it, the quality of life for both the mother and the child would suffer. Not only that, but if the mother's life is in danger then there's no question that an abortion should always be allowed, and abortions are offered if it is suspected that the child will be born with a disability that will significantly affect their quality of life.
I just don't believe that in this day in age, people don't want to show women respect and allow them to have full control over their body
@@risevision1080 You do realise that not all women have the choice of deciding during sexual intercourse?? What if a woman is raped, it is by no means a choice and she should not be forced to go through such a life changing decision through no fault of her own.
@@Jack-xv6ec when consenting individuals engage in sex they enter into a contract, they give both implied, and informed consent. As pregnancy is a side effect of having sex. The equivalent would be; getting side effects from taking prescription drugs, getting into a car accident Bc they are in a car, etc… it’s also a separate individual deciding the quality of life for someone else. Which is actually determined by each individual human being. Ppl who get cancer typically have a worse quality of life, should we kill them to spare them? Do we kill ppl Bc they may be poor, may get raped, may lose a limb? No that’s crazy. Also, Raped individuals which makes up less than 1% of abortions, and don’t give that consent. Which mean there isn’t a contract. And an abortion has never unraped someone. In regards to disabilities. It’s illegal to use an individuals disabilities against them. You aren’t allowed to kill disabled ppl who are alive, why? Bc they are still human beings who have the right to life.
@@idotexe3005 yes!! Fucking solid point mate
Thank you for giving this interview. You are great. Don't let anybody intimidate you.
A shameless killer.
She is wonderful. Her voice is one that should be listened to far and wide. ❤️
We need a follow up from this incredible woman now that America has proven once again, just how diabolical their elected officials are.
This woman is amazing ❤️ No one should b denied healthcare of any sort, thank you for what you do
A shameless killer. Killing human fetuses is not healthcare.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g you can’t kill something that isn’t alive. It’s not your fucking body, piss off with your self righteous bullshit
literally you call killing a child "health care" you might aswell walk up to your 20 year old child and stab them to death with a kitchen knife cause it is literally the same abortion is just murder without concequences and without having to see what you have done not "healthcare" or a "human right" literally you call killing a child "healthcare" death is apparently "healthcare" and wow she is so "amazing" literally she loves children and pregnancy so much she mutalates a child inside of the womb blindly what a wonderfull job an "amazing" woman
No MAN because let's be honest here, the majority of laws etc are passed by men, or religion, has the right to dictate the bodily autonomy of another human. There are so many reasons for a pregnancy being ended, not just because it was an accident. Health of the mother, incest, rape, health of the fetus, accidents, all of these also contribute to decisions made by adults who find themselves in situations where they have to make a horrific decision.
Don't think for one second anyone considering pregnancy termination thought this was the route they would be going down, it's not always so black and white. It truly is the greyist of grey areas.
A woman should have the right to choose for herself, no one else should dictate her actions.
@BigMacWeeb 🙄 Every single person on this earth was born "without consent". So now all of a sudden consent is needed in order to not be born? Dumb. How tf is a clump of cells supposed to have any "choice" in anything? And why TF should that trump the wants, needs, and autonomy of a fully formed, living, breathing human?
@BigMacWeeb No one is aborting an 8 month old baby in the womb. Abortions occur early on for a reason. Pregnancies can be risky and harmful to the woman. Having a child is a massive responsibility, even if you give them up for adoption. In this instance, we should prioritize the lives of the women, who have friends and families, who feel pain and emotions, and most importantly can make an informed decision about their life. Abortions will still happen even if it is illegal. Home abortions kill women.
(Also as an aside, If I had been able to consent in the womb I would have asked to be aborted. I never wanted to be alive. It would have been better if I had never existed to form thoughts.)
@BigMacWeeb can you please explain how its the same logic having an abortion and killing a person who is severely mentally ill or in coma?
@BigMacWeeb yeah but the foetus was never really alive to be killed was it
@BigMacWeeb actually there have been studies that say foetus’s aren’t capable of feeling pain until the third trimester which is 27 weeks. Abortions usually take place before 24 weeks which means they don’t feel pain. Plus until 22 weeks the foetus isn’t considered viable, which mean it can survive outside the womb, so even if it is considered alive inside the womb, without the mother it wouldn’t survive. That means it’s completely the mother’s choice what happens to it.
Has anyone ever found that a man pretended to use a condom and the next day you realize that he didn’t? He made u think that he did. Didn’t get pregnant but somehow felt violated. He took away my safety without my knowledge. Blame myself for not making sure. But what is this? I’ve never seen a case like that before publicly, but it must happen a lot. Young women please keep your guards up always. Double check for your safety. What if I had gotten pregnant? I’ve never told anyone this before. Guess I need to talk to someone about it. I do support all women to choose what happens to them. It’s not my business or my place. We have lost the sense of mind your own business big time. You never know what someone else feels unless you’ve felt it yourself. So you would know what that feels like. You would know that they were suffering. And then you would support them. We all hurt. Life is so hard sometimes. Don’t make it harder on anyone. That’s not your job or your place. Chins up ladies♥️
Just so you know, deceiving someone like this is considered statutory rape in some places as you did not consent to unprotected sex. It's totally understandable that you felt violated. It can even be traumatic and leave you with trust issues n future relationships, I hope if you are dealing with anything like that you're able to speak to someone about it and receive support
Morning after pills exist for a reason.
@@Rick_Sanchez_G420 obviously. Some people don’t have access to them though, and some women can’t actually take them. There are so many different factors that need to be taken into consideration in situations like these. It’s not just about “morning after pills exist” or “you shouldn’t have had sex then”, “you weren’t being safe enough”...there’s so much more to it than that
@@lily-roseblades9494 no there isnt. Family is important, abortion is killing your family.
@@Rick_Sanchez_G420 wait...did you say family??
I am from Kazakhstan. Country that is so way behind of Ireland in so many ways. But when i had to do my abortion, i was treated with whole respect and support by the medicals. It's woman's body, it's her choice. Really.
You act as if another human wasn't involved lmao. Did the dead fetus have a choice or...?
Man I wish I could murder people because they inconvenienced me.
I am SO unbelievably privileged to live in Scotland. A message with a link literally comes up for the NHS on this page. Thank you for these interviews!
@@user-bm3un3ct2g It is not a sentient human being, it's conscious like a plant in the first 12 weeks. Stop with your nonsense and get educated please.
Abortion kills a human being.
So many states in the USA want to bring this country back to the dark ages of women's health care. It's so distressing.
Abortion kills a human being.
They should realise banning/making it illegal will now make woman do much harsher things to themselves to get an abortion
In the dark ages son/daughters were obligated to pay for the crimes of their parents. It isn't different with abortion, the son/daughter is obligated to pay (with his/her life) for the crime of their fathers.
In addition, some women rape, some female rappers become preganant of their victims. It's real, it's happens, what do we do with these cases? Can male victims decide...or... are you going to allow the women who rape them decide?
This woman is a hero. The approach, the responsibility she carries, the love for people in her eyes, the way she talks about people. Even the seemingly tiny things like mentioning that not all pregnant people that need care are women. She is a treasure, protect her.
Not all heroes wear capes. Some murder children.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Its not even human🤣🤣🤣
@@user-bm3un3ct2g 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A shameless killer who kill human beings inside the womb.
@@TheBigMclargehuge so you don't have to get one if you don't want one but why is always bottom feeders that think they can force their beliefs down people's throat
Whether or not you agree abortion is right is irrelevant to the fact that it is more than prevalent enough to necessitate regulation. Keep it legal to keep it safe
@@誠-f9c not usually, abortions are pretty safe for the women receiving them now, thank God.
@@celestechacon9436 God is not pleased of abortions.
@@KingPingviini then let god sort it out down here. Stop using this fictional character to weaponize your stance. If there was a god, he does a shitty job of caring for people.
Are you a Wind Waker fan?
@@celestechacon9436 If they are legal, that is. They aren’t in many places and it’s fucked.
Second time watching this. She’s such a beautiful soul and I’m thankful women have her to go to. If ever in the circumstance, her care would be worth the flight.
She speaks my heart. I’m pro-choice, which means have all the babies you want, but don’t tell me and my daughters what we “should” do. It was a heart wrenching conversation with my teenager when Roe was overturned. Not because she’s sexually active- but because she knows the fatal consequences of this decision. I didn’t say much except for what she needed to hear right then “If anything ever happens, I’ve got you. It’s between you, me and a doctor and we will fly to a different country if needed. I’ve got you.”
She’s 15 and under 100 lbs. Rape is around every corner in the US. She’d be fortunate to survive the rape, much less carrying a baby. I doubt privileged white men have ever even considered this, yet they’re making all the decisions.
She's a shameless killer.
@@user-bm3un3ct2g Yep a walking demom. This woman is pure evil.
Abortionists be like “I really like the idea of killing babies, but how can I make a career out of that?”
uncle rob kebeach night light shell.
Or maybe they just don't want women to die from a health problem when the baby is gonna die anyway
I could never harm my baby!
You don’t speak for every woman
That was *your choice* to stay pregnant. Let others have their choices.
Pro life= anti choice perfectly put. To think some of these people stand outside of woman’s reproductive health clinics and push an opinion/ judge woman for their choice walking in. It’s hard enough going through an abortion let alone with signs/ people shouting at you. If I cant change your opinion what makes you think you could change mine? And why would you be more entitled to yours? Let woman be free to do what they feel best for their life, it’s not your business to control how people go about their lives.
At what point does a baby have a soul?? Is it 2 weeks? 12 weeks? 20 weeks? Many times in the bible it speaks of God knowing people while they were still in their mothers wombs. Why would we go against what God wants. It is murder. God hates murder. America is turning from God and it is a problem for us.
I'm pro life and I support choice. But not choice when it comes to things like murder... I support the child's choice.
ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING.
Pro life =anti choice if it means you choosing to kill another human being.
Yes a fetus is a human being, it's a living organism that has it's own DNA and bodily functions and that is of human origin.
Instead of "pro-lifers" they should rightly be called "forced-birthers". They're not pro-life, because they don't care about the baby after it's born - go and ask anyone protesting abortion how many children they've adopted or fostered. The outcome of forcing someone to give birth often causes immense distress and suffering for all concerned, the child most of all.
Noboby forced to anything.
Thank you for providing terminations to women who need and want them. You are doing a wonderful thing. Providing legal terminations also means that women can have safe terminations and they no longer need to go down backstreet alleyways. I thank you on behalf of all women in need and also for young girls who choose to terminate because they got pregnant through abuse, women who simply cannot or do not want to continue their pregnancy or for any other reason. You really are doing something value able. Be safe. Be happy. Feel rewarded for all the people you are helping
@@user-bm3un3ct2g omg cry about it!!💀💀😂
A fucking killer. Abortion kills a human being every single time.
I know this woman means well but she should seek some therapy how u go from admiring birth to terminating pregnancies without a moments hesitation is very peculiar she’s naive confused and emotionally unstable
Because you are passionate about providing good health care to the pregnant people that need it!
To all those people who are going to positive comments and replying there with their anti-choice opinions, hiding in the shadows, remember this: you are allowed to have this opinion. But you are NOT ALLOWED to FORCE it on other people, physically, verbally, or legally.
To all those opposed to infanticide, remember this: your are allowed to have this opinion but you are NOT ALLOWED TO FORCE on other people.
ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING.
@@MiguelArcangel12 infanticide... okay. I'm sure you're up to date with the number of children who die from poverty, starvation, and abuse, right? And you're just as passionate about saving them as you are about saving a fetus?
@@azulk955 I am. But even if I weren't, infanticide would be wrong.
@@azulk955 Poor people die = We should kill people who could potentially be poor?
The voice of a mature compassionate Ireland that I am so proud to come from an live in. We clearly have a way to go but we have come so far even in my lifetime. Thank you for speaking upand articulating yourself so well.
A shameless killer who kill human beings.
3:13 AGREE Pregnant people should not need to tell their reasons for wanting to end an unwanted pregnancy
10:21 I so agree with you, I am prolife too, the life of the pregnant person.
11:41 Your support towards women, pregnant person and their choices, is so vastly felt.
Amazing interview!
but when the pregnant woman's life Is not in danger, who do you condone the taking of another innocent beings life?
What about the mans choice to want to keep the baby if the women doesn't want a baby use contraception or dont have sex
@@letsdebate839 exactly, the argument from a pro choice perspective is so sexist in its view, I find it hard to take the argument seriously sometimes
@@layol7398 I agree yes if the woman's life is in danger that's definitely a choice as or for instance rape again it can mentally effect the woman again that's a choice but for no other reason than the argument i dont want it is murder if I wanted to kill someone for no reason and they say no is that denying my choice and anti pro choice they dont want the baby and the man does give it to the man they made the choice to have intercourse its ridiculous
@@layol7398 Well, the danger is not only present but future. It's psychological as well. How is she gonna be able to provide financially, and emotionally if she's not well or didn't want that baby.
Its absolutely devastating watching this only weeks after roe v wade was overturned in the US. Denying basic healthcare to women is absolutely abysmal, ignorant, and outright hatred for women. Ireland took steps forwards (thankfully) and America took leaps backwards. Thank you for this interview.
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This woman is incredibly intelligent, beautiful, sensitive and kind. You go girl! #wearethenhs I’m so proud of you ❤️
A fucking killer.
How she literally kills baby is for the convenience of the mom
Should the government have the legal right to force people to use their bodies against their will to save the life of another person? Even at risk Of death, quality of life, physical damage to self, and financial ruin? Body autonomy is important. We even award it to our dead.
You have zero understanding between the difference of active and passive. Pregnancy is not an active, forcing people to use their bodies to save another person is (such as forced kidney/liver donations for example). Abortion is active, it is an action of deliberately butchering or suffocating an individual human being. “Body autonomy” is a euphemism. Nothing more. It is equivalent to referring to mass deportation and genocide of minorities as “ethnic autonomy”.
Its absurd that if you dont want a baby, cant afford a baby, cant afford to take months of unpaid leave, you can still be forced to have a baby in some states. Id rather take my chances with the wire coat hanger. And other women will too. And die from it
If you can't afford a baby, don't want a baby, and/or can't take months of unpaid leave don't have sex. A very small percentage of abortions are due to reported rape granted the number of rape-related abortions are probably higher and unreported, but your comment seems to be toward any cause of pregnancy.
@@savannahroserecipes telling people not to have sex, is like me telling you "don't want to be fat and don't want to look like a whale? want to look like a super model? just only eat cucumbers and water." or just saying that to every single person who is obese or overweight, it isn't a solution let alone a reasonable one.
That isn't a valid comparison whatsoever, eating is necessary to survive. Sex is not necessary to survive.
@@savannahroserecipes birth control and condoms don’t work all the time. Just saying that doesn’t validate a woman not having the right to have the choice to get an abortion when she can just “not have sex” it happens even protected
Right, people do still get pregnant even when using protection, so the only guaranteed way to not get pregnant is to not have sex. If people choose to have sex even with protection knowing they can get pregnant "well, at least I tried to avoid pregnancy by using protection" doesn't make getting an abortion any better.
If roles were Reversed and Men had to carry an Unwanted Pregnancy or looked down due to a Pregnancy! It amazes me STILL that ALL these Pregnant Women are having ‘Immaculate Conceptions’ 🙄… Double standards get my Blood BOILING!! 😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😤😤😤😤
So only men are pro life then?
@@OldManGamer1985 according to this nonbiased noncommercialized comment section
"Old man"
@@ceceruben6113 so you base all comments on RUclips as factual then?
@@OldManGamer1985 that's not at all what OP was stating. The fact is a lot of decisions regarding a woman's body are made by men with little to no consultation of women. If a men were to carry children the battle for abortion and health care services wouldn't be as difficult and the stigma of abortion probably wouldn't exist.
@@ChargedWords again you are saying that politicians who make the laws and debate about abortions, women's right to chose are ALL men ? there are no female pro life politicians?
i remember in 'health' class at high school, the section about abortions was like 'none of you will never actually need to know about this, we're just trying to let promiscuous teen girls know what they might have to go through if they don't change their ways'. like, grown women won't need to know this? and forget about grown MARRIED women ever needing an abortion. i wonder if my teachers even thought about that for a minute.
Good. Probably the only positive thing about American public school is that they draw a small line from teaching their students to partake in one of the most horrific genocides in human history. Too bad this will probably change if it hasn’t already
@@halebopp4747 teaching children about sexual health and safe sex prevents unwanted pregnancy and lessens abortions. You obviously didn’t even absorb any of this video. Women die from not having access to abortion. It’s not a ‘genocide’ it’s basic health care.
@@sarahbennett7823 There is absolutely nothing in this video that I haven’t both already heard and already refuted years before watching this video. The fact that our schools should have to teach children about safe sex is already a symptom of 2 things: 1. That our society is promiscuous, something that shouldn’t be. (Especially when a common and poor criticism I receive in response to my anti-abortion position is the claim that the world is overpopulated). And 2. That there are 0 statutes in place that penalize this promiscuity and any murders that result from it. “Women die from not having access to abortion” unless you’re referring to septic pregnancies, this isn’t a problem. Murderers should not feel safe in their acts and any harm they receive is harm they have brought about themselves. It is very much a genocide, the murder of individuals isn’t basic healthcare. So much that it was forbidden in the original hippocratic oath. You obviously didn’t even absorb anything I have said this entire time, as you have never addressed any of my arguments with constructive criticism. You have only responded with multiple Proof by assertion fallacies. I personally suggest that you refrain from replying to any comments until you learn how to construct and articulate opposing arguments that don’t solely rely on multiple fallacies.
@@halebopp4747 I highly hope someone you know has to experience an abortion and you act as supportive as you have demonstrated you are in these comments. You know absolutely nothing about why a woman might choose to have an abortion. People are allowed to have sex and feel pleasure. Just because you don’t personally believe it’s right doesn’t mean everyone has to live by that rule. Safe sex has accidents anyways even if doing it properly. “Promiscuity” has nothing to do with it. Women who are married for years might want an abortion. Women might not be able to afford an abortion. Pregnancy might pose a risk to the mother. The baby may have sever complications in which abortion would be the proper option. There are SO many reasons for abortion. You’re so “pro life” but you don’t even value the life that’s already here, the mother. But you’re the same kind of person to shame a mother who actually went through with the pregnancy and now can’t afford to properly care for a child, because they aren’t being responsible even the the responsible thing was to have an abortion. People get pregnant by mistake. It happens. And not everyone can or wants to carry a baby to term and give it up for adoption
@@sarahbennett7823 Majority of your reply is complete deflection and red herrings but I’ll respond anyways. I see you haven’t taken my advice of ceasing to reply until you figured out what you’re even typing. I know much about why a woman might choose an abortion, and I’ve already refuted the legitimacy of every instance you have mentioned and will proceed to do so again. People are allowed whatever the Lord God grants them. “Just because you don’t personally believe it’s right doesn’t mean everyone has to live by that rule”. I never said otherwise, I can’t stop people from doing what they want including mass murder unless I put myself at risk of death or torture. This isn’t vindication of your position, acts remain heinous and unjustified because I prove them as such in accordance to propositional logic and in accordance to the laws and statutes of God. I know that safe sex has accidents, accidents aren’t vindication of murder. If you decide to have sex one should be well aware of potential consequences or they shouldn’t do it. “Women who are married for years might want an abortion.” And it continues to be unjustified as the act of putting an innocent individual to death. “Women might not be able to afford the abortion.” I would say good, but rather I presume you didn’t mean what you typed as this statement is irrelevant and not an attempt at appeal to emotion or justification, I think you meant “some women may not afford to raise the child.” If this be the case, there are a multitude of solutions that don’t entail murder such as leaving the child in the care of someone else wether it be putting them up for adoption or leaving the child at a fire station. “Pregnancy might pose a risk to the mother” then the solution would be to monitor the pregnancy. The single and only valid complication I have heard is that of the septic pregnancy, which is mentioned in this video. From what I know, the child usually dies before the pregnancy becomes a risk to the mother. In this case it is not an abortion and instead a removal of the individual’s remains, which isn’t murder. There may also be the case in which both the woman and child may die, and if a serious risk is presented to the mother and the child’s death is guaranteed, then I remain neutral on the position. “The baby may have sever [sic] complications in which abortion would be the proper action” I’m not a utilitarian/eugenicist and killing innocent people on the basis of these philosophies is murder. There are SO many reasons for abortion, all of which you mentioned I have already known and refuted, and all of them with the sole exception of the septic pregnancy (which is neutral) are unjustified and invalid. “You’re so pro life but you don’t even value the life that’s already here, the mother” Both lives are already there. Both are living beings, and I care about all innocents. A mother should be cared for during and after her pregnancy for the sake of both lives, and if the mother is not innocent (such as conceiving the child from adultery or prostitution) then for the sake of the child. “But you’re the same kind of person to shame a mother who actually went through with the pregnancy and now can’t afford to properly care for a child, because they aren’t being responsible even the the [sic] responsible thing was to have an abortion.” On top of the blatant strawman fallacy, murder is never a responsible decision. “People get pregnant by mistake” I never said otherwise, and this is typically a part of most reasons to get an abortion. Once again not a source of vindication for your position. “And not everyone can or wants to carry a baby to term and give it up for adoption.” Elaborate, unless this is another one of your beloved proof by assertion fallacies. Now that I have responded to all of your deflections and red herrings, why don’t you address my refutations? Or better yet, refrain from commenting until you know what you’re talking about?
Thank you for being apart of this world. We need you. Women need you..
Shameless killers.
This video is so fascinating. Thank you for sharing her story!
A shameless killer.
If you want to decrease the numbers of abortions teach your children. Tell them how one gets pregnant. Teach them how to avoid it. Give people free or cheap access to condoms, etc.
And most importantly: Help parents.
Give them a lot of paid leave after that they can go back to work in their old job.
Give them a secure and free kindergarten stay for their children.
Help women in abusive relationships more (educate, help, better laws)
And less and less people will be forced to decide for a abortion.
She is amazing midwife-and yes, she is right it will happen no matter what so it should be legal and safe.
Do you have the same opinion on the subject of mass shootings?
A fucking killer.
she is a baby butcher. let's call a spade a spade - she sacrifices children in exchange for money.
Admirable. So clear-thinking, so humane, so sympathetic. 'Pro-lifers'? MIlitant 'pro-lifers'? Horrible people. Thank you for making this video, Ms Morris.
You spelled "human refuse". "demon". and "witch" wrong.
I’m eternally grateful to the lady who assisted me in my abortion in the UK. She couldn’t have been better. I feel so lucky after listening to this.
So she helped you kill your baby. How sad.
If it comes between abortion or abuse I’d pick abortion. I was abused as a child adult now and my spouse is a foster care kid. If your not adopting the foster care kids then you get no say. I’d rather see a termination then the alternative.
sorry, are you saying you would have preferred to have been an abortion rather then the life you have?
@@togocat1 yes if I could skip all the abuse and fiction on a level like everyone else yes. I wake up every single day and cry because I’m alive so yes I’d rather have never been on this earth had my parents used a condom I wouldn’t have had the unfortunate fate of finding out what kinds of cruelty humans are capable of. She tried to murder me any ways multiple times I was a mistake and I’ll be a mistake.
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@@abby3373 sorry to hear. Are you an adult now, do you have children of your own?
@@togocat1 no children of my own I am an adult now it still hurts. The images never go away the things I was subjected to don’t go away ever. You can get better at dealing with it and being “productive “ in life. But the actual trauma never leaves we just learn how to semi function in a scale that’s socially acceptable.
Very interesting topic. Too bad it has become political and most people have fallen into extremes.
Snuffing out life is extreme.
so you'd rather get the unborn to life on the price of a dead a married woman and hence her lover and other children's emotional capacity? Or you'd rather get an infant to life right to a shelter say u cant afford it and get the kid mental issues all his life? Plainly taking life out is pathetic i agree but theres priorities and choices that life puts u and u pick only from bad or worse
@@abdallahhesham87 I have no fucking clue what you're trying to say.
@@Plague_Doc22 thats a sign
@@abdallahhesham87 Are you high as shit right now? Wtf.
Mad respect for healthcare providers on Ireland and any other country, helping people to access reproductive health care.
Abortion is killing.
A government or fellow man has no right telling a woman what to do with her body and life.
Period 🙏🙌
If you didn't notice it takes a man and a woman to make a baby. Last time I looked women don't get pregnant on their own. So yes the man should have a say in their unborn babies lives.
@@deborahwhitney9427 does the man carry the baby. When things fall apart also, who is left with the child... NOT THE MAN
why did she say pregnant "people"?
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Because some humans can get pregnant????
@@doodledee3348 Only female humans
@@doodledee3348 you mean women right? Females have female reproductive organs hence pregnancy
I can’t imagine splitting my week between bringing a new life into the world and ending one. This was painful for me to watch, but I know listening to conversations of those in opposite views of myself are the only way we can find ways to support our pregnant moms and make birth control accessible to every one at no cost to reduce the need to turn to abortion.
I really appreciate your willingness to listen to the other side of the argument, I also deeply appreciate you supporting contraceptives. As someone who is pro choice I try to do the same, some of the stories of people choosing to keep unplanned or difficult pregnancies are incredibly beautiful, I hope we can all live in a world where people can make the right choice for them and receive the support they need for the choice that is best for them.
Unfortunately birth control can fail. I know a number of people that has happened to
I respect & admire this woman's stance on abortion.
She's neither here nor there.
She appreciates life yet also wholeheartedly & graciously respects each personal choice a woman must make for herself 🤍🕊🙏🏽
A shameless killer.
Love this woman. It's pretty important to note that abortion is not JUST ending and unwanted pregnancy. Medically, an abortion is ANY ending of a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth. Miscarriage, stillbirth, elective termination of an unwanted pregnancy, termination of a wanted but unviable pregnancy, etc.. There are dozens of complications and conditions that would make a pregnancy dangerous or impossible to carry to term, or the neonate would invariably suffer a very short painful life and, as a result, many very wanted pregnancies are aborted for the safety of the mother, or as a mercy to the child.
Politicians (mostly American politicians) have hijacked the term to only mean ending an unwanted pregnancy and that's just inaccurate, which is another sign that medical decisions should be made by medical doctors, not politicians.
True. But i think one more remark is necessary. Even if 100% of abortions in the world happened because a woman just doesn't feel like it, that would not change anything from ethical point of view. Bodily autonomy is the basic human right, and anyone can exercise it however and whenever they fkin want.
A shameless killer. Abortion kills a human being.
How dare you equate miscarriage with abortion. I've had 3 miscarriages and all those babies were wanted by my partner and myself. Most women who have had miscarriages wanted their babies. And a baby being ripped apart in the womb is hardly merciful.
Could not imagine a better human for this type of health care service. She really does change the misconception & stigma around abortion. You are such a deserving human & I appreciate the respect & care you give to these women. Bless you & thank you! 🤎
A shameless killer.
If you don't like abortions DONT GET ONE. This woman is amazing, so passionate 💕
As we say in Argentina: aborto legal seguro y gratuito💚✊🏻
If you don't like murdering people, then don't murder them.
@@mikeoakes747 well.. exactly. Also, murder is illegal, abortion isn't. AND the fetus isn't a person, being a person it's a social construct, being a baby it's a social construct. It's only a future human, a future person, a future baby.
@@Valentiinitah life from conception, get educated!
A shameless killer. Abortion kills a human being.
"Si no te gusta el aborto no tengas uno"...¿entonces si no te gusta la violación no violes, si no te gusta asesinar no asesines, si no te gusta robar no robes...?
Ese argumento no tiene sentido. Siempre habrá personas haciendo cosas malas, esa realidad no es motivo para hacer legal las cosas malas.
"el asesinato es ilegal, el aborto no lo es"....¿entonces si en un pais la esclavitud es legal tenemos que estar de acuerdo con la esclavitud? El hecho de que algo esté permitido por ley no significa que sea bueno/correcto/ético/coherente
¿donde crees tú que está el valor?
¿un humano no tiene valor por si mismo?
¿una vida no tiene valor por si misma?
¿un ser sintiente no tiene valor por si mismo?
¿donde está el valor? esa es la cuestión principal, la segunda cuestión principal es ¿Donde empieza la vida?
A commenter to me made an excellent point to me. Yeah I'd be a crappy mom to human kids. I'm not fond of them but good with my pet kids. The father I told her had a child from another, he never bothered to help raise the kid, had no contact with her, refused to send money to the mom and gave excuses and a year after my abortion that I don't have a problem with 35 years later, he ended up in prison for 8 years on a gun charge. His parents were good parents and he wound up in jail. Lots of crappy parents have kids in jail who never bothered to teach them right. The commenter was absolutely right with another observation of theirs. Kids deserve to be loved and wanted. So why in heck do pro lifers demand unwanted kids be born in the first place if they're gonna be treated like crap or end up in Children's Services unwanted! I keep asking pro lifers why don't they take in a pregnant mom take care of her until the birth and help raise the kid. And what response do I get each time I ask? NOTHING! Pro lifers love the pre born but notice how they don't shout unfair when this country won't provide what's needed for pre K? Or paid maternity leave? Care about a fetus not care when they're born! Unless you're a single dad there's no paternity leave and with mom around when married who looks for child care? HER! Who worries more about that? MOMS! Who takes care of baby mostly? MOM! My mother was a narcissistic alcoholic. She was verbally abusive and just an awful person. I asked her once if she had a choice would she have gotten married and had kids(my brother and I) and she said nope! So why did she? Well she got married in 1954, and was born in 1931. Why does that matter? Just what mom said. You got married and had kids as a woman because that's what you were "supposed" to do. Mom never stopped working and in those days when my brother and I were born in '56 and '59 you were "supposed" to stay home. Not mom! She worked and dad worked. But with these bans on abortion and the possible reversal of Roe, women are going to be back to being forced to do what you're "supposed" to do! The stereotype of a woman! Give birth! Be a mom! Things were different then in many things with babies in the 50's when my brother and I came. No such thing as special formula if your baby was allergic to cow's milk. No such thing as WIC then! No such thing as disposable diapers! Cloth diapers with safety pins none of this pansy Huggies. Diaper services who'd take your dirty diapers wash them and bring them back at a price of course. Nursery school was our child care! No such thing as bringing your baby to work and having a room where the tots were looked after like some today. Then as now no paid maternity leave! Back then no such thing as the Pill when my brother and I came in the 50's. I don't know if they had other birth control stuff for women and who knows when condoms were invented that most men refuse to wear thinking birth control is all on her! You didn't want a baby NEITHER did 'it'! Well legal or not women and girls should not be forced to give birth. Yell at her for getting pregnant not yelling at him for no condom. We don't need a reason for abortion! Possible banning of contraceptives to today for her but doesn't include condoms of course! Yell at her for an abortion but NOT for vasectomies? Rant we're all paying for her abortion NO rant over we're all paying for HIS vasectomy! Sexist hypocrisy at it's absurd finest! Abortion bad when she wants it abortion no reaction when HE demands she get one! It's our bodies! The irony is that when you dictate to most about their kids what do they say! "Don't tell me how to raise my kid!" So why are anti abortion people dictating whether you have one or not! Don't like abortion? Great! Don't have one! Legal or illegal abortion won't stop! We're not incubators! And if pro lifers are so into birth then you grab that pregnant mom, take her into YOUR home, be with her for 9 months, pay for her doctor visits, be there at birth and you be part of her family and help raise that kid! You baby sit, buy supplies, help pay for education, teach right from wrong. And judging from the no responses when I demand of pro lifers why you won't be there for that kid and mom, proves you don't care. You punt them off to some agency but YOU won't personally be a part of that kid's life and help raise them. One pro lifer said to me I have no resources to adopt but I donate to charity! Kinda selective! Have money to punt an unwanted kid on a charity but won't take care of the kid themselves! If it's that important you make it so you can adopt! And those kids weren't aborted! A lot less work for you to do in the womb. Once they're born you're all off on another tangent against abortion. Kids SHOULD be wanted and loved! Deadbeat dads should take care of their spawn but they won't! Giving to charity for kids is NOT personal care! Reminds me of an adoption case in my city years ago. She was a 5 year old Black girl. Given up! So a White couple wanted to adopt her. The Black community was outraged! You don't know our culture they said! But NONE of them adopted the girl. The White couple did. They loved her like their own. Lectured that couple how awful they were for adopting a kid not of their race who was ignored BY their own! Lecture against abortion but expect others to pick up the pieces! So pro lifers, since you're unwilling to 'adopt' so to speak that pregnant mom forcing her to give birth with all the anti abortion crap going on, being there for her and her kid for the rest of YOUR lives, pro lifers, punting them both onto someone else, you have NO say on abortion!