6:12 Interesting point about truckstands. During the recent WFSC in Germany, the floor was quite slippery and some skaters who can usually do the no-handed truckstands first try, struggled with it during the contest. To counter this problem, some skaters put some sort of tape (I think it was fingertape?) at the nose/tail for more friction. Anyway, looking back at the subject, for me, smooth grounds mean one thing only: coconut wheelies 😂 and also, one nice thing about smooth ground is that, if you learn rolling tricks and you fall, there's less chance of scraping your skin. The place I usually skate is quite rough, even when I roll slow and fall after messing up a trick, it can get bloody.
100%. when i started skating there were no skateparks around like today. so all this smooth ground stuff is very strange to me. i love the crunchy ground better. its all we had but it was ours.
Been riding the 93a nano cubics and they level these descrepencies out a bit. Still have their own feel to get used to but they kinda bridge the contrast.
This is fantastic ! I never knew how much of a floor snob I was until I actually started FS, the right set of wheels on the right ground is just the best. Great skateboarding in here Sarah, hell yeah !
On point, all of my tricks I can do, almost, without thought on rough ground. As soon as I take them to the park, they get considerably more sketchy. On smooth concrete, I have to be crawling to land a shove or 180. On rough blacktop, I can shove after shove after shove. Also, for whatever reason, I find powerslides and reverts far easier on rough ground. I think it's because, once you break traction, there is actually less wheel surface area in contact with the ground. It's kinda like how racecars used tires with no tread on smooth tracks, so there is more tire contacting the road. So, on smooth concrete, more of your wheel is touching the concrete, so more friction. I could be way off, haha. That's just what it feels like to me. I'm no scientist, haha. Great video, and awesome food for thought!
Less surface area = less friction sounds like a sound hypothesis to me 💪 and I was the same way. When I only skated rough ground, I was bambi when I hit a smooth surface haha totally get that. Glad you enjoyed the video!
These are all excellent points! I believe Mike Osterman mentioned in an interview that different regions around the U.S. (and the World) have different concentration of freestylers who do different tricks based on weather and ground surfaces. For example, SoCal has more footwork based skaters due to smoother ground and overall good weather, Colorado and places with harsher wintersand rougher ground have more skaters who do rail and truck based trick because they can practice in their basements/garages or in Nick Beaulieu's case, a shipping container. I live in the California's Central Valley and the weather constantly reaches 100 degrees and up during summer, which makes footwork, wheelies and sometimes rail tricks my go tos mainly because the ground is decent and I have open areas to practice (plus that surfer influence hits hard). Truck tricks take way too much energy to do because my body temp gets overly hot quickly, so I would rather just do a rail trick instead which burns up less energy and focuses more on balance. I'm saving all my truck based tricks for Winter or early morning sessions (If I wake up early enough). I personally prefer to ride softer wheels (93a) because I love the extra grip when I'm doing fast footwork ilike monster walks and endovers but have slowly come to enjoy harder wheels (97a) for flamingos/jaywalks/smoothies and similar sliding tricks.
oh! I totally forgot about that, but you're right. I definitely saw that video too. It's so interesting to think that little "trick pockets" around the US developed in part due to the ground we have access to. That's a super cool tandem observation for the discourse! Thanks for bringing it up and sharing your bit too! I've never lived somewhere quite that hot, but before I moved back to NY, I was in Virginia and the hot, humid summers definitely had me jumping less too. That's a good point 😃
a new park in my town opened up just the other day. Almost all the streets and lots here are very rough ground. I attempted several hardflips in the streets got close maybe twice. Tried out the new park yesterday has super smooth ground. Attempted a hardflip got it in about 3 tries. Smooth ground definitely makes a huge difference
Very interesting points! I pretty much always prefer smooth ground (up to a point where it became a running gag with my friend that I'll complain about the ground not being smooth enough even in the nicest skateparks 😄). For one it feels a lot safer to fall since you can kinda just slide on the ground, while it's much more likely to get scrapes on a rougher surface. And also, even though some tricks might be harder to pull off, to me it feels a ton more satisfying to land any trick on a really nice ground, and I also feel like my technique is much cleaner when I don't have to worry about compensating for the roughness of the ground I'm landing on.
This is something I've been trying to figure out! I don't have many smoother surfaces available, but I've been trying to figure out if I'm making things too hard on myself or if it's not a bad thing that I have an easier time on really smooth surfaces? I'm still trying to get comfortable riding and it's frustrating to feel like every kick feels completely unproductive.
I don't have many smooth surfaces either besides a couple small pavilions. So, I understand it can be tough. I used to wonder too if I could be better with different ground. Skateboarding is always hard haha but every kick is part of your progress. So, hang in there! Even if it's frustrating, it will definitely be productive in the long run💪
@@SarahParkMatott Thank you!! A very good reminder that really any early work is progress and adds up. Hopefully will only make me better when I am able to get on better surfaces more regularly. :)
6:12 Interesting point about truckstands. During the recent WFSC in Germany, the floor was quite slippery and some skaters who can usually do the no-handed truckstands first try, struggled with it during the contest. To counter this problem, some skaters put some sort of tape (I think it was fingertape?) at the nose/tail for more friction.
Anyway, looking back at the subject, for me, smooth grounds mean one thing only: coconut wheelies 😂 and also, one nice thing about smooth ground is that, if you learn rolling tricks and you fall, there's less chance of scraping your skin. The place I usually skate is quite rough, even when I roll slow and fall after messing up a trick, it can get bloody.
Seismic Axon 95a freestyle wheels might be a good middle ground choice for both smooth and rough surfaces.
That no-hand 50-50 to casper was NUTS!
haha thank you! I really like that trick too 🙈
100%. when i started skating there were no skateparks around like today. so all this smooth ground stuff is very strange to me. i love the crunchy ground better. its all we had but it was ours.
I'm way more scared off falling on rough ground than I am on a smooth surface
that's a great point I didn't think of! 😭
I like grass. Falling on it feels almost nice. 🙈
Been riding the 93a nano cubics and they level these descrepencies out a bit. Still have their own feel to get used to but they kinda bridge the contrast.
This is fantastic ! I never knew how much of a floor snob I was until I actually started FS, the right set of wheels on the right ground is just the best.
Great skateboarding in here Sarah, hell yeah !
I really enjoy some rough spots. The noise of 93a Dragons singing on rough patches calms my mind :-)
On point, all of my tricks I can do, almost, without thought on rough ground. As soon as I take them to the park, they get considerably more sketchy. On smooth concrete, I have to be crawling to land a shove or 180. On rough blacktop, I can shove after shove after shove. Also, for whatever reason, I find powerslides and reverts far easier on rough ground. I think it's because, once you break traction, there is actually less wheel surface area in contact with the ground. It's kinda like how racecars used tires with no tread on smooth tracks, so there is more tire contacting the road. So, on smooth concrete, more of your wheel is touching the concrete, so more friction. I could be way off, haha. That's just what it feels like to me. I'm no scientist, haha. Great video, and awesome food for thought!
Less surface area = less friction sounds like a sound hypothesis to me 💪 and I was the same way. When I only skated rough ground, I was bambi when I hit a smooth surface haha totally get that. Glad you enjoyed the video!
These are all excellent points! I believe Mike Osterman mentioned in an interview that different regions around the U.S. (and the World) have different concentration of freestylers who do different tricks based on weather and ground surfaces. For example, SoCal has more footwork based skaters due to smoother ground and overall good weather, Colorado and places with harsher wintersand rougher ground have more skaters who do rail and truck based trick because they can practice in their basements/garages or in Nick Beaulieu's case, a shipping container.
I live in the California's Central Valley and the weather constantly reaches 100 degrees and up during summer, which makes footwork, wheelies and sometimes rail tricks my go tos mainly because the ground is decent and I have open areas to practice (plus that surfer influence hits hard). Truck tricks take way too much energy to do because my body temp gets overly hot quickly, so I would rather just do a rail trick instead which burns up less energy and focuses more on balance. I'm saving all my truck based tricks for Winter or early morning sessions (If I wake up early enough).
I personally prefer to ride softer wheels (93a) because I love the extra grip when I'm doing fast footwork ilike monster walks and endovers but have slowly come to enjoy harder wheels (97a) for flamingos/jaywalks/smoothies and similar sliding tricks.
oh! I totally forgot about that, but you're right. I definitely saw that video too. It's so interesting to think that little "trick pockets" around the US developed in part due to the ground we have access to. That's a super cool tandem observation for the discourse! Thanks for bringing it up and sharing your bit too! I've never lived somewhere quite that hot, but before I moved back to NY, I was in Virginia and the hot, humid summers definitely had me jumping less too. That's a good point 😃
a new park in my town opened up just the other day. Almost all the streets and lots here are very rough ground. I attempted several hardflips in the streets got close maybe twice. Tried out the new park yesterday has super smooth ground. Attempted a hardflip got it in about 3 tries. Smooth ground definitely makes a huge difference
Very interesting points! I pretty much always prefer smooth ground (up to a point where it became a running gag with my friend that I'll complain about the ground not being smooth enough even in the nicest skateparks 😄). For one it feels a lot safer to fall since you can kinda just slide on the ground, while it's much more likely to get scrapes on a rougher surface. And also, even though some tricks might be harder to pull off, to me it feels a ton more satisfying to land any trick on a really nice ground, and I also feel like my technique is much cleaner when I don't have to worry about compensating for the roughness of the ground I'm landing on.
This is something I've been trying to figure out! I don't have many smoother surfaces available, but I've been trying to figure out if I'm making things too hard on myself or if it's not a bad thing that I have an easier time on really smooth surfaces? I'm still trying to get comfortable riding and it's frustrating to feel like every kick feels completely unproductive.
I don't have many smooth surfaces either besides a couple small pavilions. So, I understand it can be tough. I used to wonder too if I could be better with different ground. Skateboarding is always hard haha but every kick is part of your progress. So, hang in there! Even if it's frustrating, it will definitely be productive in the long run💪
@@SarahParkMatott Thank you!! A very good reminder that really any early work is progress and adds up. Hopefully will only make me better when I am able to get on better surfaces more regularly. :)
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What size board is that
It's a 7.6! 😃
@@SarahParkMatott nice I ordered a 7.6 Ethan Young prey two weeks ago just waiting to get it sucks you can't just go to a local shop and get one
@@jamesaspinall1742 hope it gets to you soon! 😃😃