RE developed AVL Engine with a joint collaboration with AVL Engine Designing Company of Austria. It was first introduced on Enfield Machismo A350 with a CDI ignition, Spaco PHBM 28 Carburetor, modified oil pump and the regular bullet's 4 speed gearbox. The first model of Thunderbird borrowed the same engine, oil pump and ignition system from Machismo A350, but introduced a 5 speed gear box with a left side shifter and used a Mikuni BS 26 carburetor. The Thunderbird show in the video is the second model which came with TCI ignition, dual tone Tank and Self start. The cylinder head of the particular motorcycle shown in this video looks to have been replaced with that of Standard/Electra 350.
most of the information you gave is quite correct. i own a 2005 AVL thundirbird . The AVL's came in 2 models TCi & CDI . TCi was notorious and mechanics had no idea that time how it works. This TB looks quite altered to me. the bore is CI enging also if its a 2002 then it did not have a starter like the one i can see in this engine, that came after 2006.
The first model of Thunderbird had CDI Ignition, it borrowed the engine from Machismo A350, had single colour tank and introduced the 5 speed gear with the left side shifter on RE. The second model of Thunderbird had TCI ignition with dual tone tank and a optional self starter. The motorcycle shown in this video is the second model with TCI Thunderbird and it's and bore and head look to be changed to that of Standard / Electra 350.
Normal servicing for CI engine won't cost you 5000 untill and unless your bike has some major issues. Avl engine isn't that ugly it's individual choice. Avl engine is a good engine
AVL stands for Anstalt für Verbrennungskraftmaschinen List. It is a German Automobile Research Company with its Headquarters in Austria. It has pioneering research in 4 stroke diesel engines for trucks. When Eicher took over the company Enfield India they invested in the development of a new engine as the Cast Iron Engine they were wrre producing had failed emissions tests and was declared unfit for roads. AVL gave the design for new Aluminium Alloy Lean Burn engine which we call the AVL engine. AVL engines were incorporated in 2000 and not 2002. For first two years AVL engines came with right gear shift 4 speed transmission same as Cast Iron Engines. These were made only till 2002. Then came the left shift 5 speed transmission which we are familiar with.
Hello sir... Mere paas bhi 2 avl thenderbird and 1 avl machismo tha.. it's a wonderful engine.. isko mai ci engine ka tapat and timing gear fit kara tha.. abhitak kuch bhi problem nahi hai .. uce engine se bhi achha pickup and milage de raha hai
AVL engine england or baki countries me bahot models aate the like electra sportsman , electra X , electra clubman, electra xr yee models england me aate the AVL 5s sath bodies aajke continental gt jese aate the aap google pe search kr skte hai bs india me yee engine nhi chlaa baki countries me bahot psnd aya tha udr 30 bhp me sportsman electra ata tha
Thanks for information al vdo Bro 1995 - 1997 Machismo with AVL engine with 4 speed gear box came after that AVL machismo came up with 5 Speed till 2009 . AVL engine also called Learn Burn engine 350 & 500
Sir, this is the best video I have seen on AVL engine comparison and history. My only suggestion is that you could have shown photos of the TCI, dual spark, instrument console, fuel gauge, 5 speed gearbox, and pics of the other models and at least one video shoot of AVL engine in action.
thanks for watching the video and the feedback. I use the basic video editing app which doesn't allow to show pics in between the video. I will try to show some pics in between the video. :)
If avl engine bikes couldn't fulfil the tradition of right hand gear ci bikes then how come it fulfilled the tradition in uce engine bikes in the form of bullet and classic?
@@JitenderSingh-yo9pq I have no idea about the cost. However, if you have a standard bullet then you can apply the self-starter to it from the RE service center in 20-22k.
Hi bro loved your videos, I'm planning to buy a Thunderbird 2003 ,which in getting in an affordable price, can you please tell if the spares for the AVL engine are available still ,please reply as soon as possible bro
bhai mere paas thunderbird avl hai.main Maharashtra se hu.mujhe badewale timing gear aur tappet valve guide ke sath chahiye pls help bhai.kaha milenge bataiye bhai.mujhe nahi mil rahe
Unfortunately i still have a tb 350 2004 avl cdi ignition type... I have done major changes in it accept the engine and suspension setup everything has been changed....today its rotting under the sun and rain.... Will make it breath again.... I dont love that vehicle because it caused me a lot of trouble but still i care for it because i saw rajasthan, himalayas and kerala... I spent all my youth on that motorcycle..i am 40 and I was thinking about buying a new one. But no.... I will first restart my old untrustworthy vehicle ...master it again after 7 years and than i will get a new motorcycle.... And definitely not royal enfield.😂😂
The video is more stories than actual ground facts. The title should be changed to story around AVL. Firstly, when you say "all about AVL engine" , it appears that you are going to tell how it works. The engineering behind it however, there is no technical information in this video. Even in the story most of the things are hearsay and not facts. Facts about the AVL include emissions norms and ban on CI engine by govt. Take over of Enfield India by Eicher Motors who made tractors and diesel-powered agricultural machines. Eicher then introduced its German design AVL as an Aluminum Alloy motor with positive feedback mechanism. Fuel Economy, power, acceleration all improved. However AVL was never easy to drive. AVL engine kick start especially in 500cc tests your strength. AVL without a self starter is a nightmare and the sprag clutch bearing in AVL 500s were faulty and troublesome. AVL not only had lesser thump but it sounded like a diesel engine more like an Autorickshaw. Faulty oil pump mechanism often caused damages to the engines. However these are all problems that could be rectified. A silencer could improve the sound. Oil Pump etc were more maintenance issues and Kick starting AVL 500 could be mastered with practice. The real reason for phasing out AVL was company policy. One has to understand that before UCE the company had different foundaries and different machining shops for different parts like sump, gear box engine blocks etc. More components means more effort in electricity, fuel consumption and more chances of faults. So a simple design with much cheaper initial cost was selected to replace the complicated British design philosophy of separate compartments. Single block comprising engine, gear box and clutch assembly. UCE was mandatory else the company wouldn't have survived the cost of manufacture of separate engine blocks and gear boxes was prohibitive.
Ha ye model without battery start Nahi Hoti ( shown in the picture) Aur isme head or cylinder kit alteration Kiya huva he. Standard Ka install Kiya huva he. Is bike ki tappet bahut jaldi cut jate hai iski vajase gaadi koi Nahi letta or market value bi hahut Kam he
RE developed AVL Engine with a joint collaboration with AVL Engine Designing Company of Austria. It was first introduced on Enfield Machismo A350 with a CDI ignition, Spaco PHBM 28 Carburetor, modified oil pump and the regular bullet's 4 speed gearbox.
The first model of Thunderbird borrowed the same engine, oil pump and ignition system from Machismo A350, but introduced a 5 speed gear box with a left side shifter and used a Mikuni BS 26 carburetor.
The Thunderbird show in the video is the second model which came with TCI ignition, dual tone Tank and Self start.
The cylinder head of the particular motorcycle shown in this video looks to have been replaced with that of Standard/Electra 350.
most of the information you gave is quite correct. i own a 2005 AVL thundirbird . The AVL's came in 2 models TCi & CDI . TCi was notorious and mechanics had no idea that time how it works. This TB looks quite altered to me. the bore is CI enging also if its a 2002 then it did not have a starter like the one i can see in this engine, that came after 2006.
Thanks for watching the video. Good observation. It was an altered one. However there is no starter in that. 😊
The first model of Thunderbird had CDI Ignition, it borrowed the engine from Machismo A350, had single colour tank and introduced the 5 speed gear with the left side shifter on RE. The second model of Thunderbird had TCI ignition with dual tone tank and a optional self starter. The motorcycle shown in this video is the second model with TCI Thunderbird and it's and bore and head look to be changed to that of Standard / Electra 350.
We have thunderbird 2003 model, only 27 k km sofar. We are the first owner. 😊😊 Kerala registration.
Normal servicing for CI engine won't cost you 5000 untill and unless your bike has some major issues. Avl engine isn't that ugly it's individual choice. Avl engine is a good engine
AVL stands for Anstalt für Verbrennungskraftmaschinen List. It is a German Automobile Research Company with its Headquarters in Austria.
It has pioneering research in 4 stroke diesel engines for trucks. When Eicher took over the company Enfield India they invested in the development of a new engine as the Cast Iron Engine they were wrre producing had failed emissions tests and was declared unfit for roads.
AVL gave the design for new Aluminium Alloy Lean Burn engine which we call the AVL engine.
AVL engines were incorporated in 2000 and not 2002. For first two years AVL engines came with right gear shift 4 speed transmission same as Cast Iron Engines. These were made only till 2002. Then came the left shift 5 speed transmission which we are familiar with.
98 vich aya si brother AVL 4s fr 2003 ch avl5s
I have AVL engine machismo 350 since 2005
Hello sir... Mere paas bhi 2 avl thenderbird and 1 avl machismo tha.. it's a wonderful engine.. isko mai ci engine ka tapat and timing gear fit kara tha.. abhitak kuch bhi problem nahi hai .. uce engine se bhi achha pickup and milage de raha hai
Yes pehele wale thunderbird acche the
Thunderbird avl ke spare parts jaise badewale timing gear aur tappet valve guide ke sath chahiye pls help bhai. I am from jalna Maharashtra .
Ek bechni h kya bhai aap ko@@sourabhbhalecreation
AVL engine england or baki countries me bahot models aate the like electra sportsman , electra X , electra clubman, electra xr yee models england me aate the AVL 5s sath bodies aajke continental gt jese aate the aap google pe search kr skte hai bs india me yee engine nhi chlaa baki countries me bahot psnd aya tha udr 30 bhp me sportsman electra ata tha
This model came in 2005 and this bike doesn't look like an AVL engine, this is an altered engine. I can see Cast Iron Engine.
Thanks for information al vdo Bro 1995 - 1997 Machismo with AVL engine with 4 speed gear box came after that AVL machismo came up with 5 Speed till 2009 . AVL engine also called Learn Burn engine 350 & 500
Thanks for watching the video. yes, machismo was a bike that was every bullet lover's dream.
Last month I bought a 2003 Thunderbird in a very good stock condition for Just 12.5k from new Delhi...
Bhai issey accha sauda nahi milta kabhi
Is the rc expired??? It cant be renewed right??
I think you are wrong the CDI version of AVL didn't needed battery support for ignition but the tci version didn't started without battery support
Sir, this is the best video I have seen on AVL engine comparison and history. My only suggestion is that you could have shown photos of the TCI, dual spark, instrument console, fuel gauge, 5 speed gearbox, and pics of the other models and at least one video shoot of AVL engine in action.
thanks for watching the video and the feedback. I use the basic video editing app which doesn't allow to show pics in between the video. I will try to show some pics in between the video. :)
Machismo 500 black & olive green models were MORE EXPENSIVE motor cycles prior to twinsparks
2006 model kitne ka lena chaiye 350.machismo plz bataye
Bro i need tci for my machismo AVL 350 .can u help regarding TCI
I have machismo 350 4 speed right gear
Do you have the owners manual for the same? If yes can you please share with me?
Bro this is not a Avl Engine.. its a Altered Cast Iron Engine.. Only the Gear box belongs to Avl The Head and Bore belongs to Cast Iorn.
Sir ,i am planning to buy AVL engine thunderbird 2004 ,For how much money should i buy it?
Bro dont give more than 35,38k
Hi..bro liked your video very informative, pls advice me which bike to go avl or twin spark, my usage is city use .
Thanks bro. go for the new model
Great information
bhai mere pass 2001 avl 4speed electra hai
uska thump accha hai ?
Bhai one of the best thumps
Block and head on this bike is of Cast Iron Engine.
Yes it was converted
I need avl machismo 350 carburettor im facing problems in it where can i get it ?
You can buy the mikcarb one
If avl engine bikes couldn't fulfil the tradition of right hand gear ci bikes then how come it fulfilled the tradition in uce engine bikes in the form of bullet and classic?
The bike shown in video doesn't have AVL but a CI engine.
Yes thats the altered one
Yes
Can we make this bike self starter??? Do reply please
Yes, we can make any bullet self-starter. Their offmarlet starters are available in the market.
@@sourabhbhalecreation tq for replying I am talking about AVL engine ???
Is it possible ??
What could be the price of it ??
@@JitenderSingh-yo9pq I have no idea about the cost. However, if you have a standard bullet then you can apply the self-starter to it from the RE service center in 20-22k.
@@sourabhbhalecreation ok tq tq 🙏 for sharing information with me 🙏🙏
Avl engines are already self start you don't need to do any conversion
Hi bro loved your videos, I'm planning to buy a Thunderbird 2003 ,which in getting in an affordable price, can you please tell if the spares for the AVL engine are available still ,please reply as soon as possible bro
Thanks for watching. Yes all the spare parts are available in the market.
@@sourabhbhalecreation thank you so much for replying bro 🙏
@@sourabhbhalecreation what about the maintenance of AVL engines bro ?
Spare parts available hai Kya avl ke.pls reply
@@saajantupe201 yes easily available in busy cities like Bangalore
Sir 2008 model lene ki soch raha hu, is k liye kitana price sahi rahega
Iska spare parts kaha milta hai Please tell me
Bhai ab dhoondna padega
Banglore
Same colour ki body kha mila gyi full graphics ke sath
Matlab?
Banglore
Very good information, are you Pune based?
Thanks for watching. Yes i am from Pune
@@sourabhbhalecreation thanks for your reply, I have a LB500, should meet up sometime,
For sure👍👍
bhai mere paas thunderbird avl hai.main Maharashtra se hu.mujhe badewale timing gear aur tappet valve guide ke sath chahiye pls help bhai.kaha milenge bataiye bhai.mujhe nahi mil rahe
Bhai kaha rehete ho?
@@sourabhbhalecreation JALNA ko raheta hu .koi to address do ya contract no pls
Bhai pune me mil sakte hai. Main market me jana padega. Contact no nahi dete wo log
@@sourabhbhalecreation market kaha hai Pune mein main dekhta hu
Bhai tilak road pe hai ek sardarji ki dukan. Nahi toh bhawani peth jana padega
Mileage kitna deti hi ye bike
Bhai 35-40 tak deti hai
Pehle ye batao ki usme kya manufacturing DEFECT tha 😊
What about parts availability of that bike
The parts are available everywhere.
मेरे पास ख़ुद हे यह Bullet शानदार गाड़ी हे
Sahi kaha bro
Thunderbird avl ke spare parts jaise badewale timing gear aur tappet valve guide ke sath chahiye pls help bhai I am from Maharashtra. Jalna.
Wow This Is Your Bike?
no, its not mine. I have an old model bullet.
Arey bhai..
Jab tum avl engine ke bare meh positive kehero ho. Toh tum c.i engine ka block & head kyu install Kiya Bhai..😁
Unfortunately i still have a tb 350 2004 avl cdi ignition type...
I have done major changes in it accept the engine and suspension setup everything has been changed....today its rotting under the sun and rain.... Will make it breath again.... I dont love that vehicle because it caused me a lot of trouble but still i care for it because i saw rajasthan, himalayas and kerala... I spent all my youth on that motorcycle..i am 40 and I was thinking about buying a new one. But no.... I will first restart my old untrustworthy vehicle ...master it again after 7 years and than i will get a new motorcycle.... And definitely not royal enfield.😂😂
i have machismo 500 AVL
The video is more stories than actual ground facts. The title should be changed to story around AVL.
Firstly, when you say "all about AVL engine" , it appears that you are going to tell how it works. The engineering behind it however, there is no technical information in this video.
Even in the story most of the things are hearsay and not facts. Facts about the AVL include emissions norms and ban on CI engine by govt. Take over of Enfield India by Eicher Motors who made tractors and diesel-powered agricultural machines. Eicher then introduced its German design AVL as an Aluminum Alloy motor with positive feedback mechanism. Fuel Economy, power, acceleration all improved.
However AVL was never easy to drive. AVL engine kick start especially in 500cc tests your strength. AVL without a self starter is a nightmare and the sprag clutch bearing in AVL 500s were faulty and troublesome.
AVL not only had lesser thump but it sounded like a diesel engine more like an Autorickshaw. Faulty oil pump mechanism often caused damages to the engines.
However these are all problems that could be rectified. A silencer could improve the sound. Oil Pump etc were more maintenance issues and Kick starting AVL 500 could be mastered with practice. The real reason for phasing out AVL was company policy.
One has to understand that before UCE the company had different foundaries and different machining shops for different parts like sump, gear box engine blocks etc. More components means more effort in electricity, fuel consumption and more chances of faults.
So a simple design with much cheaper initial cost was selected to replace the complicated British design philosophy of separate compartments. Single block comprising engine, gear box and clutch assembly.
UCE was mandatory else the company wouldn't have survived the cost of manufacture of separate engine blocks and gear boxes was prohibitive.
Krishna bhaiya ki gadi
Kaun krishna bhai?
First off all this is not Avl engine
ezheech poda pundachi mone
Saale iska engine change haii ci mai
Nikal ♥️de
Sab avl without battery start nehi hota hye CDI model only not tci avl with battery start hota hye.
Ha ye model without battery start Nahi Hoti ( shown in the picture)
Aur isme head or cylinder kit alteration Kiya huva he. Standard Ka install Kiya huva he. Is bike ki tappet bahut jaldi cut jate hai iski vajase gaadi koi Nahi letta or market value bi hahut Kam he